Thread: Moderator Bias

In the interest of not derailing Anubis thread any further I wanted to continue the discussion over here about whether or not having a group of all conservative moderators affects the management and/or climate in the P&R section...

Ban Buff. He needs it.

14 days

tia

Originally Posted by BigDaddyBronco

Ban Buff. He needs it.

14 days

tia

Buff for Moderator 2008.

Originally Posted by frauschieze

Buff for Moderator 2008.

Are you campaigning Buff?

Moderators aren't biased.

They just have favourites.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

And to this, I will make one more comment also - I can guarantee you that politics is not modded based on a poster's political affiliation, but is ONLY modded based on violations of the posted rules/guidelines.

I will acknowledge that by and large the moderators have acted in an unbiased manner...

And I'm not trying to stir the pot to be an ungrateful complainer who's trying to make Tned's life more complicated than it needs to be. I just think that if we really view P&R as a problem, we ought to be changing the people who are moderating as much as we ought to be changing the way the moderators do their job. And I don't mean to say our current group has done a bad job-- I just think it wouldn't hurt to have some different opinions.

My contention with what you just posted is that you guys (mods) have biases that you may not even know about. We all do. It has to do with our own values and upbringing. It's not that your decisions are unfair, it's just that they are fairly one sided.

Example: What consisutes a cesspool to a middle aged, christian, republican may be completely acceptable to a younger, non-religious liberal. And that's not saying one is right and one is wrong, it just means we ought to bring in more voices. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by gnomeflinger

Are you campaigning Buff?

Not at all... I kind of like being able to be a hot head and take sides on an issue...

Buff,

The cesspool referrals are more to the approach to the methods and complete and total lack of constructive discussion...not Liberal content.

Originally Posted by Buff

I will acknowledge that by and large the moderators have acted in an unbiased manner...

And I'm not trying to stir the pot to be an ungrateful complainer who's trying to make Tned's life more complicated than it needs to be. I just think that if we really view P&R as a problem, we ought to be changing the people who are moderating as much as we ought to be changing the way the moderators do their job. And I don't mean to say our current group has done a bad job-- I just think it wouldn't hurt to have some different opinions.

My contention with what you just posted is that you guys (mods) have biases that you may not even know about. We all do. It has to do with our own values and upbringing. It's not that your decisions are unfair, it's just that they are fairly one sided.

Example: What consisutes a cesspool to a middle aged, christian, republican may be completely acceptable to a younger, non-religious liberal. And that's not saying one is right and one is wrong, it just means we ought to bring in more voices. Just my opinion.

We mod the post - not the poster. If the post violates the posted rules/guidelines, it gets action. If it does not, it gets no action.

Originally Posted by Buff

Example: What consisutes a cesspool to a middle aged, christian, republican may be completely acceptable to a younger, non-religious liberal. And that's not saying one is right and one is wrong, it just means we ought to bring in more voices. Just my opinion.

As a younger, non-religious left-leaning centrist.....I still think P&R is a cesspool.

Originally Posted by Buff

I will acknowledge that by and large the moderators have acted in an unbiased manner...

And I'm not trying to stir the pot to be an ungrateful complainer who's trying to make Tned's life more complicated than it needs to be. I just think that if we really view P&R as a problem, we ought to be changing the people who are moderating as much as we ought to be changing the way the moderators do their job. And I don't mean to say our current group has done a bad job-- I just think it wouldn't hurt to have some different opinions.

My contention with what you just posted is that you guys (mods) have biases that you may not even know about. We all do. It has to do with our own values and upbringing. It's not that your decisions are unfair, it's just that they are fairly one sided.

Example: What consisutes a cesspool to a middle aged, christian, republican may be completely acceptable to a younger, non-religious liberal. And that's not saying one is right and one is wrong, it just means we ought to bring in more voices. Just my opinion.

So, you don't think that the recently banned (from the P&R) members deserved it??

Originally Posted by turftoad

So, you don't think that the recently banned (from the P&R) members deserved it??

No... Not at all. Even the notorious right-winger who was among them.

I think everyone takes themselves way too seriously around here-- mods, members, admin. I think the only reason anyone should ever get banned is because they Spam the board and are not actual contributors... I think it takes on a very elitist mentality when we're telling people who want to be here that they are not good enough to be here (Again, it's an online message board for pete's sake).

The problem is this-- There are about 3-5 uber liberal posters who annoy this shit out of 90% of the right... And there are 2-4 uber conservative posters who annoy the shit out of 90% of the left... So what happens, is that people lash out against those folks, and then are scolded by the mods for lashing out. So the members who get scolded feel like they've been wronged (because, hey, they were just trying to tell that jackass how annoying he is) and therefore they throw their arms up and say "this is a cesspool, I'm taking my ball and going home."

The easy solution would be very loosely moderate it so that people don't have to mince words, let them say exactly what they want to say because members can police themselves better than mods could ever hope to. But that won't happen, because we're apparently opposed to it being a "free for all".

So I don't know what the easy solution is... But can't hurt to try and add a few dissenting opinions just for the sake of perceived balance among management within P&R.

Buff you are not moderator material. No offense.

It's hard to imagine anything to do with Politics NOT being a cesspool......

Originally Posted by Buff

No... Not at all. Even the notorious right-winger who was among them.

I think everyone takes themselves way too seriously around here-- mods, members, admin. I think the only reason anyone should ever get banned is because they Spam the board and are not actual contributors... I think it takes on a very elitist mentality when we're telling people who want to be here that they are not good enough to be here (Again, it's an online message board for pete's sake).

The problem is this-- There are about 3-5 uber liberal posters who annoy this shit out of 90% of the right... And there are 2-4 uber conservative posters who annoy the shit out of 90% of the left... So what happens, is that people lash out against those folks, and then are scolded by the mods for lashing out. So the members who get scolded feel like they've been wronged (because, hey, they were just trying to tell that jackass how annoying he is) and therefore they throw their arms up and say "this is a cesspool, I'm taking my ball and going home."

The easy solution would be very loosely moderate it so that people don't have to mince words, let them say exactly what they want to say because members can police themselves better than mods could ever hope to. But that won't happen, because we're apparently opposed to it being a "free for all".

So I don't know what the easy solution is... But can't hurt to try and add a few dissenting opinions just for the sake of perceived balance among management within P&R.

Spoken like a true hippie...