Thread: If a guy falls in draft do we have to pull the trigger?

I have been thinking about this and the millions of scenarios that we have gone over and over. But i have not see many topics that involve players falling. I still have a feeling that we are going dareus/fairley (in that order).


So with #2 out of the way (dareus/Fairley)

Here are options that could be there at our 2s...



OT- Nate Solder
CB- Brandon Harris
DE-Adrian Clayborn
DT-Stephen Peaea
DT-luigit
DE- Allen Bailey
DE-Cameron Heyward
LB-Martez Wilson
LB Greg Jones
OT-Anthony Castonzo
DT- Phil Taylor


If Solder, fell it would be hard to pass him up. But same with Brandon Harris. I like Harris a lot more than PP, However some studs like Bailye, Clayborn and Peae might not make it another 10 picks.


Assuming we take Dareus/Fairley at 1, do we take an OT or CB at two and somewhat skip our needs at DT and DE or do we take our needs and hope that they make it another 10 picks?

I'm a huge CU fan and I think Solder is overrated. Definitely a project to turn him into a reliable NFL left tackle. That said, if we can get him in the second round I feel like that's pretty fair value.

Absolutely. And that's the great thing about this draft. We are weak on the line and there are plenty of prospects with first round grades that will fall tlo both of our slots in the second round. I would hope that we go best player available with ALL of our picks.

Remember: Tim Tebow is left handed. We need someone who can protect his blind side on the RIGHT side. We certainly can afford to draft a right or left tackle and figure out if we want Clady on Tebow's blind side or if we want the new tackle to be on the right side. It certainly would help our run game if we added another talented offensive lineman to the fold.

Hopefully a resolution to the CBA issue or trades are allowed to be made by draft time so we can pick up some picks for Orton. Looks like Seattle might be willing to give up as high as a second if Kolb goes high and Carson turns out to be off the market. Unless of course they become enamored with a free agent like Vince Young(who torched Carroll in the national championship game).

OT will be gone. There always seems to be a run on OT in the draft. Teams always reach. Lol @ like harris more than pp. You can like him more nothing wrong with that but are you saying you think harris will/is better? I don't think he will be half the player peterson will be.

I bet someone falls, Nate Solder stock is declining.



I like harris, will be be as good as PP-no, prob not. But I dont think they are that far apart in overall ability and one can be had a complete round later.

out of that group, i'd order my picks

1. paea
2. taylor
3. harris
4. claiborne

i don't buy that liuget and castonzo will be there. . .

and i won't say that harris is a better prospect than the hype machine, but i think he'll be a hands down better value towards the end of the first than hype machine in the top five. . .

OT- Nate Solder ---- Yes
CB- Brandon Harris ---- No
DE-Adrian Clayborn ---- Yes
DT-Stephen Paea --- maybe
DT-luigit ---- Yes
DE- Allen Bailey -------- Maybe at 46
DE-Cameron Heyward ---- Yes
LB-Martez Wilson ---- Maybe at 46
LB Greg Jones ---- No
OT-Anthony Castonzo --- Hell yes
DT- Phil Taylor ---- Yes

Originally Posted by underrated29

I bet someone falls, Nate Solder stock is declining.



I like harris, will be be as good as PP-no, prob not. But I dont think they are that far apart in overall ability and one can be had a complete round later.

I would take harris with are second pick in round two. I like paea if hes there...but I like taylor more but highly doubt he's there. In my world my first 3 picks are Peterson, (yes I changed) Taylor, martez wilson. But wouldn't mind trading back to 3, 5, 7, 8.

The reason I switched over to peterson as my pick is bc we cannot afford to miss. Plus the d line is solid in this draft. I don't see farley or dareus as good as suh but I see peterson as good as suh at his position. On the defensive side of the ball we have to take best avalable. We need talent and I believe peterson is best player in draft.

Originally Posted by underrated29

I have been thinking about this and the millions of scenarios that we have gone over and over. But i have not see many topics that involve players falling. I still have a feeling that we are going dareus/fairley (in that order).


So with #2 out of the way (dareus/Fairley)

Here are options that could be there at our 2s...



OT- Nate Solder
CB- Brandon Harris
DE-Adrian Clayborn
DT-Stephen Peaea
DT-luigit
DE- Allen Bailey
DE-Cameron Heyward
LB-Martez Wilson
LB Greg Jones
OT-Anthony Castonzo
DT- Phil Taylor


If Solder, fell it would be hard to pass him up. But same with Brandon Harris. I like Harris a lot more than PP, However some studs like Bailye, Clayborn and Peae might not make it another 10 picks.


Assuming we take Dareus/Fairley at 1, do we take an OT or CB at two and somewhat skip our needs at DT and DE or do we take our needs and hope that they make it another 10 picks?

OT is deep! No use overpaying when they could get one on saturday.
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Originally Posted by rcsodak

OT is deep! No use overpaying when they could get one on saturday.
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right.

The point of the thread though is we all have done mocks and projects on guys who will or should be there by the time our 2nds come to pass, but as we see each and every year someone who was early first round material falls. So with this I was trying to add a few names that shouldnt but just might. And if they do fall, do we stray from our previous and nab them.
See ex.

dareus
Phil taylor
Adrian Clayborn


Dareus
solder
nevis

or

dareus
harris
clayborn


etc etc... What if those first round guys at OT and CB and such fall. Do we nab one instead of looking at a DT like Peae or luigy ?

Originally Posted by rcsodak

OT is deep! No use overpaying when they could get one on saturday.
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I think you'd have to be an OL scout to make a statement like that... I do believe it's deeper than originally thought though... into the 4th before it's scraping the dregs... Of course, we don't have a 4th so that really sucks...

If Luiget or Clayborn is there at 36 I'd have a hard time taking on OT but the others???

Originally Posted by underrated29

I bet someone falls, Nate Solder stock is declining.



I like harris, will be be as good as PP-no, prob not. But I dont think they are that far apart in overall ability and one can be had a complete round later.

Anybody have the number of catches/gm champ gave up in college? PP was NOT a shutdown corner.
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Originally Posted by underrated29

right.

The point of the thread though is we all have done mocks and projects on guys who will or should be there by the time our 2nds come to pass, but as we see each and every year someone who was early first round material falls. So with this I was trying to add a few names that shouldnt but just might. And if they do fall, do we stray from our previous and nab them.
See ex.

dareus
Phil taylor
Adrian Clayborn


Dareus
solder
nevis

or

dareus
harris
clayborn


etc etc... What if those first round guys at OT and CB and such fall. Do we nab one instead of looking at a DT like Peae or luigy ?

I get that, 29. But you did list 2 OT's, yes? When most think defense, you're listing a position that CURRENTLY is not a need, imo.

Plus, not trying to be a smartass, but if a player falls from a" 1st rd pick", then maybe he wasn't one to begin with? His hype became transparent? His scabs started to show?
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I still like my mocks better. Pass on Solder and Harris in the 2nd round for me.

Originally Posted by SpringsBroncoFan

I think you'd have to be an OL scout to make a statement like that... I do believe it's deeper than originally thought though... into the 4th before it's scraping the dregs... Of course, we don't have a 4th so that really sucks...

If Luiget or Clayborn is there at 36 I'd have a hard time taking on OT but the others???

Nothing of the sort/never claimed to be/DO listen to them, nfl fo guys,ex player/analysts.
The interior OL is just the opposite of the OT's depth/skill wise.
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