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    I've repeatedly heard on Sirius NFL that a defense needs to have a strong middle up front to be successful in the long run.
    In the 34, that means a STUD NT and 2 STUD LB's.
    In the 43, 2 STUD DT's and 1 STUD MLB.

    With the lastest revelation by Fox (43D), does the team have ANY of the 3? (I was hoping to pose this question before he did, to ask which front was more obvious. Evidently he has more faith in the DL than the LB corp?)
    If so, who?
    Is there a diamond currently on the roster that's hidden that is yet to be mined?
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    Dont know, but I def agree with that.


    DT, MLB, S....with Hasses at those positions, you can pretty effectively pressure the QB and collapse the pocket (what we have lacked for so long), shut down the run, and be decent against the pass.



    sprinkle in some Doom, champ, ayers and and goody..the d imo wont be half bad...but we need 2 DTs, ILb, and S.....which right now- i think we have NONE.
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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    yea, we don't have NFL starters at any of those positions. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    We didn't have a strong three at the 34, but I believe the 43 is easier to build. As I was saying in another thread, I think MLB is just as important (if not more) than finding that stud DT. The MLB is the captain and QB of the D. He calls the plays, the audibles and sets the tone.

    Using that #2 pick on a DL isn't going to fix this defense. It's going to be the subsequent picks that will make just as much of an impact.
    (the previous comment was not directed at any particular individual and was not intended to slander,disrespect or offend any reader of said statement)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcsodak View Post
    I've repeatedly heard on Sirius NFL that a defense needs to have a strong middle up front to be successful in the long run.
    In the 34, that means a STUD NT and 2 STUD LB's.
    In the 43, 2 STUD DT's and 1 STUD MLB.

    With the lastest revelation by Fox (43D), does the team have ANY of the 3? (I was hoping to pose this question before he did, to ask which front was more obvious. Evidently he has more faith in the DL than the LB corp?)
    If so, who?
    Is there a diamond currently on the roster that's hidden that is yet to be mined?
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    I believe that, while Bannan was a rather pedestrian NT/DE in the 3-4, he can
    be much better at DT in the 4-3. I could be proven wrong, but I believe he is
    starter material there if he has strong support beside him.

    I was intrigued by Joe Mays this last season. He really showed flashes, and he
    hits like a stray howitzer. No promises, of course, but I wonder just what kind
    of upside he would have at MLB . . .

    I do, however, believe the Broncos have personnel more conducive to the 4-3.
    Put D.J. back at Will, and all the sudden we have a star there. I believe that.
    And I believe Haggan would be a better SAM than he has been at any position
    he has played in the 3-4.

    So it would seem to me the Broncos need one DT and possibly one MLB. Then
    we would see a fairly decent defense . . .

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    Does Fox have an LB that can cover the middle? Stay with a TE and do more than just tackle him? Hit the hole and meet the rb/stop him/cause a fumble? Consistantly effectively blitz? If not, is there one in the draft?
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    i think we should draft pouncey

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    Rookie triangle of death:

    _____Martez Wilson______
    Marcell Dareus, Marvin Austin

    If it's as easy as solidifying a triangle, done. You are welcome. Now what?

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    power triangle?

    what we have is more like the bermuda triangle-- pretty much just a black hole of fail. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    I just read mayock and sapp both said Dareus is the safer pick of the 2 DT's.

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    For are defensive front 7 I would like to think outside of the talent we have bc I really only like a couple guys. Doom & Ayers @ DE. Other than that I really believe the rest of our players are avg. Or rotational. But I do wanna c Thomas at DT in the 4-3 could be pretty good at the 3 technique.

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    It aint gonna all be perfect after one draft.

    Bannan will be good for another year, maybe two...

    Lots of those other guys are backups...

    Ayers might develop... you all know the list...

    but it is gonna be a project over the next 2 or 3 drafts to build a killer defense.

    With this crappy CBA/FA situation... we are gonna have to make due with whatever we can snag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27 View Post
    Rookie triangle of death:

    _____Martez Wilson______
    Marcell Dareus, Marvin Austin

    If it's as easy as solidifying a triangle, done. You are welcome. Now what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuzz4169 View Post
    For are defensive front 7 I would like to think outside of the talent we have bc I really only like a couple guys. Doom & Ayers @ DE. Other than that I really believe the rest of our players are avg. Or rotational. But I do wanna c Thomas at DT in the 4-3 could be pretty good at the 3 technique.
    Doom is an every down DE? Granted he'll be paid like one, but they'll have to give him constant help vs run game. And his pay is too much for situational pass rusher.
    And shanny drafted thomas so he has already been a 43 DT.
    Maybe they should try for a 1st rd pick for Doom to a 34 team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcsodak View Post
    Doom is an every down DE? Granted he'll be paid like one, but they'll have to give him constant help vs run game. And his pay is too much for situational pass rusher.
    And shanny drafted thomas so he has already been a 43 DT.
    Maybe they should try for a 1st rd pick for Doom to a 34 team.
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    Remember D.J.'s first year? He made more than good account of himself at Will,
    as a rookie. That is his natural position, one he has not been permitted to play
    since. If the Broncos are smart and send him back there, then I believe Doom
    will have plenty of support on his side. That is how, for instance, the Colts have
    gotten by with Freeney for so many years.

    But I just don't believe a good defense is built by shipping off its best players . . .

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