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    king, i love JR despite some of his whacky stances, but that shit was just funny. . .


    now go get me a sandwich. . .
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    man, i seriously hope you cut and pasted that. . . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    man, i seriously hope you cut and pasted that. . . .
    hand made bitch! ****!
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Fox's offense the last 5 years in Carolina were 27th, 7th, 21st, 26th, 23rd in points scored........

    "A 3 yard run and a cloud of dust" here we come....He has the same feelings about passing as Woody Hayes.....cept he doesnt punch the other teams guy...

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    Oh, and if DEN is gonna run the shiat outta the football, than they better get someone who can actually play RB in the NFL.


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    Mike McCoy told me he doesn't give a **** what Fox says about the offense.
    I NO LONGER support Rahim Moore.

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    People complain about Moreno being injury prone as they clamor for Deangelo Williams who has been IR'd the past two seasons.
    I NO LONGER support Rahim Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juriga72 View Post
    Fox's offense the last 5 years in Carolina were 27th, 7th, 21st, 26th, 23rd in points scored........

    "A 3 yard run and a cloud of dust" here we come....He has the same feelings about passing as Woody Hayes.....cept he doesnt punch the other teams guy...
    If that's the case I'd give Fox at most 1 year before the lynch mob will be back begging for a different coach. Then again, McCoy is calling plays and game planning so either McCoy's going to do what it takes to win games (and possibly get him fired for passing to much) or he'll cowtow to his boss and we'll see the lynch mob again.

    I'm praying that the coaching staff look at what the heck they got under the hood and leave their pre-conceived notions at the door. It seems like the Broncos have been the dumping ground for people to force our players into their mold rather than analyzing what they have and playing on their strengths.

    Not sure what the next few (2 to 5) holds for us, but it's gotta be better than the last 1.5+



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    Quote Originally Posted by honz View Post
    Mike McCoy told me he doesn't give a **** what Fox says about the offense.
    I pray that's true and that it doesn't get him fired, err allowed to pursue other opportunities, or whatever else they want to call it.



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    Houston, under Kubiak, is still WCO and may have been the last team to try ZBS when Gibbs was their OL coach a couple of years ago. ZBS became less effective when the league banned cut-blocking at the LOS and the more aggressive 3-4s like Pittsburgh and Baltimore had our number most of the time even before that.

    Yes, the ZBS was great for its time but that time has passed. It's evolution. Every offense is eventually figured out and defeated. I remember when the Run and Shoot became a fad and it billed itself as having an answer for every defense because it was totally responsive to what the defense did. That lasted about 3-4 years until defensive coaches realized they could dictate shorter pass routes and then beat up the receiver who caught the pass.

    Right now, spread offenses are the fad in college and the NFL has adopted portions of it but this too will be figured out, just as the "Wildcat" is no longer as effective as it was when it was first sprung.

    If I were a coach, my philosophy would be to zig when the rest of the league zags. If the fad is to pass all the time, I figure out how to put the best run offense on the field. If the trend is for everyone to run a 3-4, I find the best 4-3 talent I can. Because teams look for personnel that fit their system (Steelers, in particular, are quite successful doing this) and if the rest of the league is hot for the best players to run Defense X, they are letting guys slide down the draft board who are better fits for Defense Y. That's how specialized scouting has become.

    So, I'd load up on the best run-blockers, the best power backs, the best 4-3 defenders and make other teams have to adjust and prepare for me instead of running a me-too system where I'm just running the same crap that other teams can do better.

    He may be "crazy like a Fox". After all, he did make the playoffs a few times and got to one Super Bowl with lesser talent, particularly on offense.
    I miss the old Mile High Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honz View Post
    People complain about Moreno being injury prone as they clamor for Deangelo Williams who has been IR'd the past two seasons.
    The difference is DeAngelo Williams actually belongs in the NFL and has the ability to be a superstar, where as Knowshow Moreno couldnt start for a CFL team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonestar View Post
    Have not liked the ZBs since TD left. Or that oline atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honz View Post
    People complain about Moreno being injury prone as they clamor for Deangelo Williams who has been IR'd the past two seasons.
    Moreno has missed both preseasons and training camps in his two years in the nfl due to injury. He pulls hammies getting off the couch and to top it off he SUCKS!

    Deangelo Williams can play and i'd take him over moreno any day of the week and 10 times on sundays. Moreno was a disaster of a pick! A freaken waste of high pick on a damn offensive player to add salt to the wound. One of the many great moves by Mcdaniels in Denver.

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    I am cool with being a predominately running team as long as we have the personnel to be good at it. I hate offenses that just run for the sake of running, even when it is clear that they are not good at it.

    I do think that we will be one of the top running teams next year in terms of YPG, but I think that will have more to do with Tebow adding like 50 yards a game scrambling on broken plays rather than just on designed runs by the RB.

    Hopefully, our coaching staff will not be stubborn and instead just run an offense that bests suits our personnel rather than just running the ball because it fits their philosophy of what the would like the team to be.
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