Thread: Elway asks permission to interview Dennison

Originally Posted by GEM

Dog....I hope you never taste a bowl of good green chile again....EVER!

it's bowlen and elway's fault, don't blame me!

Originally Posted by Cugel

And Dennison knows that system inside and out. He could easily bring it back.

what makes anyone think he won't also bring back the shanahan/kubiak style of defense?

Cant say anyone is a capable HC unless we see them in an interview. If they have a dull personality like Wade Phillips, then they are probably not equipped with a leaders personality. Dennison would seem to be qualified, but whats his personality like?

Originally Posted by Dzone

Cant say anyone is a capable HC unless we see them in an interview. If they have a dull personality like Wade Phillips, then they are probably not equipped with a leaders personality. Dennison would seem to be qualified, but whats his personality like?

He's energetic at times, but more like like Studesville in demeanor, calm, cool and collected. He can be a tough ass now and then, but overall a very likeable gentleman and a solid coach to boot.

I like him the best out of anyone so far.

Originally Posted by Cugel

So Dennison takes an undrafted RB and turns him into the NFL's leading rusher while McDaniels takes 1st round draft pick Knowshon Moreno and creates the NFL's WORST rushing attack!

I for one would LOVE to see the ZBS come back. That was another of McDaniels' WORST mistakes in scrapping it! In 2008, Shanny's last year not only did Denver have the #2 offense in football, but Cutler was only sacked 11 times all year!


If we could go back to it, we could really get things moving on the ground again! And Dennison knows that system inside and out. He could easily bring it back.

Yup, leading rusher, best WR in the game, solid but unspectacular QB...and no playoffs. Bring back Broncos football!
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Originally Posted by dogfish

what makes anyone think he won't also bring back the shanahan/kubiak style of defense?

1. Because he smart enough to know better (masters in Civil enginering)
2. Elway would helicopter his ass
3. Bob Slowick already has a job ruining the Deadskins D.

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

I like him the best out of anyone so far.

Me to, wich is pethetic.

Originally Posted by dogfish

what makes anyone think he won't also bring back the shanahan/kubiak style of defense?

It's perfectly possible for an Offensive HC to bring in a good Defensive Coordinator to handle the defense. After all, McDaniels brought in Mike Nolan who (you will remember) did a pretty good job with the defense (despite having almost NO talent to work with).

Unfortunately, of course, McDaniels GINORMOUS EGO wouldn't allow anybody else to run ANYTHING on "HIS" team -- so he got rid of Nolan and the rest is history!

Shanahan was a notorious control freak who suffered from the same problem. He had to run EVERYTHING so he couldn't really get and keep top flight DCs.

But, there's no reason to think that Dennison suffers from that same "I've got to control every aspect of my team" persona.

He certainly won't get to suffer from Shanahan and McDaniels' OTHER big problem -- that of being in control of drafting and FA.

I continue to believe that the future of the Broncos will depend a LOT MORE on whether Xanders is really a first rate GM or not, than whether the new coach is brilliant.

What WORRIES me the most is this "consensus" thinking that Elway and Bowlen's holdover CRONIES -- Xanders and especially Joe Ellis want to create.

A CAMEL is just a HORSE designed by a committee.

Originally Posted by bcbronc

Yup, leading rusher, best WR in the game, solid but unspectacular QB...and no playoffs. Bring back Broncos football!

Don't be idiotic! The Broncos failed to make the playoffs between 2005 & 2008 NOT because of any OFFENSIVE failing -- but because they had the #28th ranked DEFENSE. A defense that couldn't rush the passer -- and consequently couldn't stop the pass despite having Champ Bailey.

And they had crappy defense because:

1. They had crappy Defensive "talent" because Shanahan ran the draft and FA.

2. Mike Shanahan's Control-Mania made it impossible for him to hire a really GOOD DC and let HIM run the defense while Shanahan ran the team and the offense.

Shanny (like McIdiot) always had to have the last word on everything.

That had NOTHING WHATEVER to do with the offense. Cutler and the offense struggled MIGHTILY to keep the team in games after the defense surrendered one long TD drive after another. They were ALWAYS playing catchup.

so kubiak is shanahan lite, and dennison is kubiak lite, but it's going to be different this time, i promise!!


alright, i'm just ****ing with you. . . the reasons presented as to why it will be different sound good enough on paper, but. . . they're just guesses-- which is of course all they could be, and exactly what my opinions and conjectures are at this moment also. . .

couldn't be any other way, beccause dennison's never been in position to have his hands on anything to an extent where we could get some feel for what he can or even might do. . .

therein lies my problem, mostly. . . i'm aware of how bright the guy is, which is great-- but everybody talks about how bright mcdaniels is, too. . . i rarely hear vince lombardi compared to a rocket scientist, though everyone agrees he was a brilliant football coach. . . still, smart is good. . . but we've never seen dennison do anything beyond show that he can run alex gibbs' system effectively-- which is cool as far as it goes, but it doesn't really tell me all that much about what dennison can do. . .

certainly not compared to someone like ron rivera, john fox, or even russ grimm to some extent. . . why hope dennison will be different from the guys that taught him to coach, when we can get a hardnosed DC, a former HC whose defenses are available for review, or a guy from the pittsburgh coaching tree who would probably bring lebeau lieutenant kevin butler over as DC? is it even worth the chance?

bah. . . i would welcome the return of dennison in an assistant HC/offense role with someone like rivera, fewell or fox as head coach, but otherwise i will happily pass. . . or at least would, if bowlen gave me the option. . .

and here's my other thing-- even if we go ahead and presume that dennison not only wants to fix the defense (who wouldn't??) but will be amenable to having the bulk of the franchise's available resources devoted to that side of the ball for the next two to four years, do we have any particular reason to believe that he's capable?

i kinda doubt kubes or even shanahan has ever thought to himself, "well, i think i'll just let the defense completely suck balls again this year, even though i'll pretend to care". . . does dennison have connections to some good DC candidates other than nolan? guys that are available? is this going to be a situation that top coaching candidates want to come to?

if rick has to hire one of the DCs that he worked with previously in denver or houston-- or some lowly-regraded junior assistant who can't get a look anywhere else-- all the good intentions in the world could come to no avail. . .

it's not like they haven't invested in the D down in houston. . . number one overall pick on mario, top picks on demeco ryans, connor barwin, amobi okoye, brian cushing, kareem jackson. . . just off the top of my head. . . some of those guys are pretty damn good, too, but their defense continues to be awful. . . injuries haven't helped, but even so that unit should be better than it is. . .

the only time dennison has ever SEEN good defense has been when the opposing team plays it again his squad. . . and that's not his fault, but it is the truth. . . if he's not bringing a top DC with him (and don't just tell me "i'm sure they can get somebody good ), then i have no idea if he can build a good D on his own. . . being smart doesn't necessarily convey any intuitive understanding of that sort of process. . .

JMO. . .

Originally Posted by Mike

Please don't let this happen.

I hated him as the ST coach, he came in and coached Alex Gibbs already solid line. What has he done to deserve HC consideration?

Come on team, think change and refuse to go back to the past. I will be Claymore/McD pissed if they hire Dennison.

Not in 2008 Mike, Weigmann, Clady, Harris and Kuper all came after Gibbs was long gone.

well, did anyone see peter king on NBC just now? said that John Elway does not think Tebow is a good quarterback and that if Mcdaniels goes to SF, then expect denver to trade Tim Tebow to san francisco...just heard it now. That better not happen...

Originally Posted by Dzone

well, did anyone see peter king on NBC just now? said that John Elway does not think Tebow is a good quarterback and that if Mcdaniels goes to SF, then expect denver to trade Tim Tebow to san francisco...just heard it now. That better not happen...

I think King is full of it on this one. If one of local guys or Schefter come out and say something similar or Rick Reilly then I'll give a lot more weight to what King has to say.

Originally Posted by Dzone

well, did anyone see peter king on NBC just now? said that John Elway does not think Tebow is a good quarterback and that if Mcdaniels goes to SF, then expect denver to trade Tim Tebow to san francisco...just heard it now. That better not happen...

whaaaat?

i think ol' pete's back to drinking rubbing alcohol. . . gotta chill, dude, shit's not good for you. . .