Thread: What more do you need to see?

Secondary!!!

Did anyone watch the game??

We need to be able to defend the pass and avoid big plays... and get turnovers!!

D line played well compared to the DB's..........

-------Patrick Peterson campaign chairman--------

If Peterson were clearly the best prospect I'd say take him.. But him and Bowers are both Elite prospects and Denver needs much more help in the front 7 than at CB.

We may have the worst pass rush in the league. /thread

When Denver can start to stop the run then we can worry about the secondary.

Originally Posted by EMB6903

If Peterson were clearly the best prospect I'd say take him.. But him and Bowers are both Elite prospects and Denver needs much more help in the front 7 than at CB.

But we arn't even officially a 4-3 team.... these top D lineman do not fit in our system as of now.... the way dumervil plays makes it tough to say we switch

and I'd say our secondary is in more need than the D line.... bannan and williams played rather welll yet again today, the runs that killed them were bad secondary tackling and ayers playing like this was the first time he's played the game of football


We got lit up when it mattered in the secondary...and our front 7 stepped up when it mattered against the run

----Patrick Peterson-----

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

But we arn't even officially a 4-3 team.... these top D lineman do not fit in our system as of now.... the way dumervil plays makes it tough to say we switch

and I'd say our secondary is in more need than the D line.... bannan and williams played rather welll yet again today, the runs that killed them were bad secondary tackling and ayers playing like this was the first time he's played the game of football


We got lit up when it mattered in the secondary...and our front 7 stepped up when it mattered against the run

----Patrick Peterson-----

dont care... not worried about the scheme Denver has now. Just worried about drafting the best defensive player available which is Daquan Bowers.

Dont be surprised if you start hearing the Mario Williams/ Julius Peppers comparisons with Bowers... Hes a freak prospect.

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

But we arn't even officially a 4-3 team.... these top D lineman do not fit in our system as of now.... the way dumervil plays makes it tough to say we switch

and I'd say our secondary is in more need than the D line.... bannan and williams played rather welll yet again today, the runs that killed them were bad secondary tackling and ayers playing like this was the first time he's played the game of football


We got lit up when it mattered in the secondary...and our front 7 stepped up when it mattered against the run

----Patrick Peterson-----

Our front 7 hasn't even rolled up into the fetal position when it has mattered against the run in the last 5 years or so, let alone step up.

Originally Posted by EMB6903

dont care... not worried about the scheme Denver has now. Just worried about drafting the best defensive player available which is Daquan Bowers.

Dont be surprised if you start hearing the Mario Williams/ Julius Peppers comparisons with Bowers... Hes a freak prospect.

Completely agree that he is a freak.... the D line equivalent of Peterson.... but he does not fit our system......... drafting him would mean an entire defensive overhaul to 4-3.... which will make rebuilding much much harder

he has no chance at playing D line in 3-4, and highly unlikely that he stands up at olb

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

Completely agree that he is a freak.... the D line equivalent of Peterson.... but he does not fit our system......... drafting him would mean an entire defensive overhaul to 4-3.... which will make rebuilding much much harder

he has no chance at playing D line in 3-4, and highly unlikely that he stands up at olb

What system?

Denver doesnt know what defensive scheme they are going to be in next year..I kinda hope for a tampa 2 scheme

Even in a 3-4 I think Bowers could play as a 5 technique in. He will get bigger and hes already scary strong.

You are right though... Peterson is a beast, Between him Dareus and Bowers I really dont care who Denver drafts. I think it will be Bowers though because how much hype hes going to recieve in the next couple of months.

Originally Posted by EMB6903

What system?

Denver doesnt know what defensive scheme they are going to be in next year..

they are completely invested into 3-4...personnel wise.... it would require a LOT of work to shift to a 4-3, maybe too much to make it worth while

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

they are completely invested into 3-4...personnel wise.... it would require a LOT of work to shift to a 4-3, maybe too much to make it worth while

What players have they completely invested into the 3-4 scheme?

Dumervil could play with his hand on the ground, hes proven that. Most scouts think Ayers was a better fit in the 4-3 as well, DJ has proven to be a much better Will linebacker in a 4-3.

I think Denver still has the personel of a 4-3 defense trying to play a 3-4 scheme.

Originally Posted by EMB6903

What system?

You are right though... Peterson is a beast, Between him Dareus and Bowers I really dont care who Denver drafts. I think it will be Bowers though because how much hype hes going to recieve in the next couple of months.

A lot of crazy talent available, but Peterson will bring an impact to our defense that we are soooo desperate for.... turnovers

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

A lot of crazy talent available, but Peterson will bring an impact to our defense that we are soooo desperate for.... turnovers

It's hard for a DB to force turnovers when the other team can hand the ball off and watch it go for 40 yards.

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

they are completely invested into 3-4...personnel wise.... it would require a LOT of work to shift to a 4-3, maybe too much to make it worth while

4-3 front 7 defenders on our roster right now:

DT: Jamal Williams, Justin Bannan, Marcus Thomas, Vickerson, Ronald Fields

DE: Ayers, Doom, Hunter, Veikune

LB: DJ, Woodyard, Haagan

And before you say not all of these guys fit into a 4-3 scheme, um...judging by this year, I don't think they fit all that well into the 3-4 scheme either. Yes, we would have to make some personnel changes defensively, but this D will likely be gutted whether we stay with the 3-4 or not.

Originally Posted by MethoSauRuS

A lot of crazy talent available, but Peterson will bring an impact to our defense that we are soooo desperate for.... turnovers

If you can not put pressure on the quarterback then he can wait and bide his time and wait for an opening. And if you put pressure on a quarterback then he is more likely to make mistakes and throw the ball off target and it gives defenders the chance to make a play on the ball.