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    With the idea in mind that youre trusting him to choose who coaches the team and run personnel decisions, who would are some choices youd like to see considered for GM?

    Mostly what Ive seen has been:

    Marty Schottenheimer
    Eric DeCosta

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    Jim Fassell
    Dan Reeves
    Dennis Erickson
    Jimmy Johnson
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    1st: Nick Fairley, RDE
    1st (traded up with 2 2nds): Stephen Paea, NT
    2nd (Orton): J.J. Watt, LDE
    3rd: Ahmad Black, SS
    6th: Armando Allen, RB
    6th: Devon Torrence, CB

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    decosta's at the top of my list. . . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Yes, DeCosta.

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    Marc Ross, director of college scouting for the Giants. Terrific talent evaluator.

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    DeCosta is great at finding defensive talent. Something we desperately need here.

    But, I have to wonder if he was a finalist for being the GM in Seattle, why did he withdraw his name from consideration? Was it because he wouldn't have total control as a GM with Pete Carroll as the HC? If so, why would he want to come here with our wishy-washy owner and Ellis?

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    Jim Fassel - Former Broncos' coach, currently the Head Coach/General Manager for the UFL's Las Vegas Locomotives. Close friend to the organization and Elway, could be a top the list if Elway is given executive power over football operations. Another coach with tremendous understanding at both the college and pro level, has been a coach/general manager before, so understands the administrative duties required for the position.

    Dan Reeves - Former Broncos' Head Coach, same with New York Giants and Atlanta Falcons, from the Tom Landry coaching tree, worked closely with the Texans' General Manager Ricky Smith (Former Bronco) and had a similar position with the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones. Close to the organization, would probably love to coach but gives him a chance to work with Bowlen and Elway again, especially if Elway is named Vice President/Head of Football Operations.

    Dennis Erickson - Currently the Head Coach at Arizona State University, close to the Elway family and through them Bowlen, was interviewed in 1995 for Denver's Head Coach position. He's been a coach at all three levels, including in the NFL, so has a deep understanding of prospects at both the pro and collegiate level. Again, a very likely candidate if Elway is given executive power over football operations.
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    Some people ought to look at the drafting of the other 31 teams in this league and consider..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    Some people ought to look at the drafting of the other 31 teams in this league and consider..............
    I agree that is something to keep in mind, however that didn't matter in some circles when Shanahan was the head coach.

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    I saw someone mention Jimmy Johnson in another thread. Thats not bad. I added him. It could be too late for him though.
    1st: Nick Fairley, RDE
    1st (traded up with 2 2nds): Stephen Paea, NT
    2nd (Orton): J.J. Watt, LDE
    3rd: Ahmad Black, SS
    6th: Armando Allen, RB
    6th: Devon Torrence, CB

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    How about this for another proposal? I'm high on Rob Ryan, but this may be another realistic option.

    Elway becomes the VP or head of all football operations (not GM, but he basically would be)

    GM- Jim Fassel. He's a close friend of the organization and Elway. He was our OC for a couple years back in the day. He's currently the HC/GM for the two time UFL champion, Las Vegas Locomotives. He and Elway would work well together. Elway could handle a lot of the business and media related decisions while Fassel focused on the football aspect of the job.

    HC- John Fox. He's a respected HC in the league with a great defensive background. He got his first job in the NFL with Chuck Noll and the Steelers eventually becoming a successful DC for the Giants before he became the coach of the Panthers. For those of you who don't want another new guy as a HC, here's why you should advocate for John Fox. He's well liked and respected among league circles. Took an expansion team with a journeyman QB as his starter to a super bowl. His teams do two things and do them WELL, running the ball and STOPPING THE RUN. Would be a lot cheaper than Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, Fisher, etc. Don't look at this season as an excuse to say John Fox sucks. He's a lame duck coach in a contract year. Why would he help build that team for the future if he's not going to be there?

    OC- Mike McCoy. He worked under Fox in many different roles with the Panthers from 2000-2008 (last job as the QB coach/Passing game coordinator). Here's three good reasons why we should keep McCoy as the OC, if Fox comes in. Not a great, but good OC. Knows the type of system Fox wants to run. Has a working relationship with all of the offensive players, so there's not a crossover between regimes.


    DC- Mike Trgovac. He's currently the DL for the Packers. He was Carolina's DC when they went to the super bowl.

    ST-Bob Ligashesky. He was previously the Steelers ST coach. He's already on staff, so it's a cheap hire. Is this a more REALISTIC regime proposal? Many have speculated that this may be the time that Elway comes back into the organization, full time, to help the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelRocker View Post
    How about this for another proposal? I'm high on Rob Ryan, but this may be another realistic option.

    Elway becomes the VP or head of all football operations (not GM, but he basically would be)

    GM- Jim Fassel. He's a close friend of the organization and Elway. He was our OC for a couple years back in the day. He's currently the HC/GM for the two time UFL champion, Las Vegas Locomotives. He and Elway would work well together. Elway could handle a lot of the business and media related decisions while Fassel focused on the football aspect of the job.

    HC- John Fox. He's a respected HC in the league with a great defensive background. He got his first job in the NFL with Chuck Noll and the Steelers eventually becoming a successful DC for the Giants before he became the coach of the Panthers. For those of you who don't want another new guy as a HC, here's why you should advocate for John Fox. He's well liked and respected among league circles. Took an expansion team with a journeyman QB as his starter to a super bowl. His teams do two things and do them WELL, running the ball and STOPPING THE RUN. Would be a lot cheaper than Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, Fisher, etc. Don't look at this season as an excuse to say John Fox sucks. He's a lame duck coach in a contract year. Why would he help build that team for the future if he's not going to be there?

    OC- Mike McCoy. He worked under Fox in many different roles with the Panthers from 2000-2008 (last job as the QB coach/Passing game coordinator). Here's three good reasons why we should keep McCoy as the OC, if Fox comes in. Not a great, but good OC. Knows the type of system Fox wants to run. Has a working relationship with all of the offensive players, so there's not a crossover between regimes.


    DC- Mike Trgovac. He's currently the DL for the Packers. He was Carolina's DC when they went to the super bowl.

    ST-Bob Ligashesky. He was previously the Steelers ST coach. He's already on staff, so it's a cheap hire. Is this a more REALISTIC regime proposal? Many have speculated that this may be the time that Elway comes back into the organization, full time, to help the team.
    Sounds too good to be true to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelRocker View Post
    How about this for another proposal? I'm high on Rob Ryan, but this may be another realistic option.

    Elway becomes the VP or head of all football operations (not GM, but he basically would be)

    GM- Jim Fassel. He's a close friend of the organization and Elway. He was our OC for a couple years back in the day. He's currently the HC/GM for the two time UFL champion, Las Vegas Locomotives. He and Elway would work well together. Elway could handle a lot of the business and media related decisions while Fassel focused on the football aspect of the job.

    HC- John Fox. He's a respected HC in the league with a great defensive background. He got his first job in the NFL with Chuck Noll and the Steelers eventually becoming a successful DC for the Giants before he became the coach of the Panthers. For those of you who don't want another new guy as a HC, here's why you should advocate for John Fox. He's well liked and respected among league circles. Took an expansion team with a journeyman QB as his starter to a super bowl. His teams do two things and do them WELL, running the ball and STOPPING THE RUN. Would be a lot cheaper than Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, Fisher, etc. Don't look at this season as an excuse to say John Fox sucks. He's a lame duck coach in a contract year. Why would he help build that team for the future if he's not going to be there?

    OC- Mike McCoy. He worked under Fox in many different roles with the Panthers from 2000-2008 (last job as the QB coach/Passing game coordinator). Here's three good reasons why we should keep McCoy as the OC, if Fox comes in. Not a great, but good OC. Knows the type of system Fox wants to run. Has a working relationship with all of the offensive players, so there's not a crossover between regimes.


    DC- Mike Trgovac. He's currently the DL for the Packers. He was Carolina's DC when they went to the super bowl.

    ST-Bob Ligashesky. He was previously the Steelers ST coach. He's already on staff, so it's a cheap hire. Is this a more REALISTIC regime proposal? Many have speculated that this may be the time that Elway comes back into the organization, full time, to help the team.
    That's all good and well Rebel, but we were really just talking about General Managers, and Fassel is a solid candidate, especially if John Elway is named Vice President/Head of Football Operations. As I mentioned above, Dan Reeves and Dennis Erickson are two possible choices as well because their ties to the organization. If Elway is going to be given an executive position, then I expect the 10% sale of the team to be the sign of what leads to that, which might happen sooner rather then later.

    As far as major coaching changes, we'll have to wait and see...the one thing I could see happening is that if Bowlen does fire McDaniels, then they're going to be quick about it...so don't expect us to start interviewing playoff bound coaches, there is a certain time frame with a possible lockout on the horizon to be wary about.

    And a lot of what may happen could rest on Elway himself if named the Vice President/Head of Football Operations, he and Joe Ellis will likely interview internal candidates; I also wouldn't be surprised if they asked McDaniels to step down as head coach, and be named Assistant Head Coach of Offense, a title that Mike Heimerdinger last held...it's possible, in all actuality and I'm not sure, I do believe beyond a contract that a coach can be demoted, but someone would have to verify that. We could see McCoy named the Head Coach, or possibly someone else...there are a ton of variations that could take place. But, I could see the staff mainly staying intact give a coach or two. Personally I think the issue needs to be handled in a very timely fashion, no matter what they decide.

    Personally I'd love to see Reeves return, whether as a General Manager or as the Head Coach, he's one of the old school coaches that doesn't take shit from anyone. I know he wants to coach, but he is 66 years old, if he becomes the head coach, it would be smart because then he could be here for four years and help us groom McCoy for the position, similar to what Dallas originally planned on with Garret and Phillips. Fassel is another solid candidate, especially when Elway may be a factor...but at this time, who knows?
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    Bring Elway in....to learn under Bill Parcells. Parcells will begin to build this team the right way. When he leaves, John has both the proper training and philosophy to be a great GM for the future.

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    Guys, I think Matt Millen is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancane View Post
    That's all good and well Rebel, but we were really just talking about General Managers, and Fassel is a solid candidate, especially if John Elway is named Vice President/Head of Football Operations. As I mentioned above, Dan Reeves and Dennis Erickson are two possible choices as well because their ties to the organization. If Elway is going to be given an executive position, then I expect the 10% sale of the team to be the sign of what leads to that, which might happen sooner rather then later.

    As far as major coaching changes, we'll have to wait and see...the one thing I could see happening is that if Bowlen does fire McDaniels, then they're going to be quick about it...so don't expect us to start interviewing playoff bound coaches, there is a certain time frame with a possible lockout on the horizon to be wary about.

    And a lot of what may happen could rest on Elway himself if named the Vice President/Head of Football Operations, he and Joe Ellis will likely interview internal candidates; I also wouldn't be surprised if they asked McDaniels to step down as head coach, and be named Assistant Head Coach of Offense, a title that Mike Heimerdinger last held...it's possible, in all actuality and I'm not sure, I do believe beyond a contract that a coach can be demoted, but someone would have to verify that. We could see McCoy named the Head Coach, or possibly someone else...there are a ton of variations that could take place. But, I could see the staff mainly staying intact give a coach or two. Personally I think the issue needs to be handled in a very timely fashion, no matter what they decide.

    Personally I'd love to see Reeves return, whether as a General Manager or as the Head Coach, he's one of the old school coaches that doesn't take shit from anyone. I know he wants to coach, but he is 66 years old, if he becomes the head coach, it would be smart because then he could be here for four years and help us groom McCoy for the position, similar to what Dallas originally planned on with Garret and Phillips. Fassel is another solid candidate, especially when Elway may be a factor...but at this time, who knows?
    I know, but I figured I'd have a full explanation.

    McDaniels isn't going to take a demotion. Either he's staying or he's gone.

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