Thread: What can I say, Orton gave up.

Orton is a hard worker and a very good QB, but when things do not initially go as planned, he has a hard time improvising. There were many times when the score was just 14-7, that he just dumped the ball off on third down. At some point, you have to understand that our Defense is outmatched and we need a big play.Do not just throw the ball away EVERYTIME. We need to put Tebow in there so he can get some live snaps. Orton just reminds of the guy who goes to work 9-5 and is just average while Tebow is the new intern the company can sink or swim with.

I am not usually one to have a knee-jerk reaction, but this was it. 6 years ago, I hated the idea of benching plummer because I still saw the competitive drive and moxie plummer brought, but Orton has non of these capabilities. Everytime he drops back to pass on 3rd and 7, I pretty much know he is going to throw the ball away. I would rather him spark the team and make a damn play!

With this said..Go Broncos
Lets kick some RAMS ASS

Gruden was trying to be nice when he pointed out, casually, how bad Orton is when he doesn't have a lot of time to sit in the pocket.

There really is no defense of Orton. He just isn't that good. 5 year pro, pads his stats, sucks on 3rd down, sucks in the redzone, sucks in close games...

The Bears didn't trade him because he was the next John Elway, or even the next Jim McMahon.

I don't think he quit...He just had an off day...but they are happening more often...againts
Bal, Oak, SF, SD...If you are the driving force of an offense like Orton is you can't have a bad day...with no run game it's hard to have an off day and still win.

I am very disappointed. I always get bad feelings all the time. It needs to be stopped. I think it is time for Elway to step up and shake this organization up.

Orton couldn't run... Denver is dying to get mobile-quarterback!

Originally Posted by BroncoStud

There really is no defense of Orton. He just isn't that good. 5 year pro, pads his stats, sucks on 3rd down, sucks in the redzone, sucks in close games...

The Bears didn't trade him because he was the next John Elway, or even the next Jim McMahon.

Maybe the next Mike Tomczak....

I donlt think Orton gave up. Don't need Gruden to point it out everyone knows that Orton is not a QB that will spur a comeback when down more then 7pts. Things snowballed fast tonight and another pathetic game.

Yes Orton is great when things are clicking but this team is not clicking. I am torn on getting Tebow in now but its not like this offense keeps the defense off the field anyhow.
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Originally Posted by Magnificent Seven

Orton couldn't run... Denver is dying to get mobile-quarterback!

Dever doesn't need a mobile QB. They need a QB who can make quick decisions, or manipulate the pocket to buy extra time.

The best QB's in the game are just this, and not mobile, with some exceptions.

The problem with Orton is that he has the same problem Plummer had. Back with plummer, once the other team shut down the bootleg, it was pretty much game over for the Broncos. Now with Orton, all you have to do is stop the short passes and screens, and it is over for the Broncos.

this thread sucks-- almost as bad as our defense. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

this thread sucks-- almost as bad as our defense. . .

and our defense is almost as bad as our offense.

Its a black hole of suckness sucking out all good and sane things in this world.
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Originally Posted by BroncoAV06

I donlt think Orton gave up. Don't need Gruden to point it out everyone knows that Orton is not a QB that will spur a comeback when down more then 7pts. Things snowballed fast tonight and another pathetic game.

Yes Orton is great when things are clicking but this team is not clicking. I am torn on getting Tebow in now but its not like this offense keeps the defense off the field anyhow.
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For ******* Christ's sake \, we don't need to START Tebow, just give him some NFL live time with the first teamers.

Are his throwing mehanics SO bad that he can't play in the NFL? I ******* doubt iThis guy has a "way of getting it done" that we havwn't seen in a very long time. Give him some playing time!

Originally Posted by BroncoAV06

I donlt think Orton gave up. Don't need Gruden to point it out everyone knows that Orton is not a QB that will spur a comeback when down more then 7pts. Things snowballed fast tonight and another pathetic game.

Yes Orton is great when things are clicking but this team is not clicking. I am torn on getting Tebow in now but its not like this offense keeps the defense off the field anyhow.
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This is my main problem with Orton. I have no doubts he's a great guy, hard worker, and has done better this year than most of us not named Top thought he would do.

That said, the numbers are kind of hollow.

We we are down 7 or 10 or 14 points with the clock winding down, how many of us really believe that Orton is going to drive us down for those game tying or winning drives? When the game isn't going great and the QB has to carry the team, how many of us believe Orton can do it?

If we had a 2000 Ravens defense, then I think Orton would be a GREAT QB to have, but we don't.