Thread: Why do they want to change the rules so Denver loses?

OK, after the Buffalo game, Rich Eisen asked some head of officiating with the league about changing the rule on Selvin Youngs play where he alertly knocked the ball out of bounds.

Now people are calling Shanahans timing for calling the TO cheap and Ive heard another talking head mentione changing the rule for when youre allowed to call a TO to ice the kicker.

Does anyone need anymore proof that people dont like Denver?

i thought they declined the penalty against selvin... i don't see how they could complain unless they want it to be a loss of down penalty, which is too stiff for something that heads-up...

and every coach uses time outs to ice kickers. seriously, this is not even close to a new thing, it just doesn't usually work, so the one time when it does happen to work, it becomes an 'issue'. nothing will change, as it shouldn't.

Originally Posted by shawshank24

i thought they declined the penalty against selvin... i don't see how they could complain unless they want it to be a loss of down penalty, which is too stiff for something that heads-up...

and every coach uses time outs to ice kickers. seriously, this is not even close to a new thing, it just doesn't usually work, so the one time when it does happen to work, it becomes an 'issue'. nothing will change, as it shouldn't.

Eisen wanted a time run off.

Regarding the time-out, I don't see how they can really change that. I mean a field goal is a regular play (usually 4th down) so if they try to institute some rule about not being able to call timeout right before the snap they'd have to do it for regular plays too. And there's no way they're going to limit that. I mean we see defenses call timeout right before the snap of the ball quite often.

The fact of the matter is, most coaches try to "ice" the kicker by calling timeout before the team even breaks the huddle. It rarely works. Our coach, however, is not "most coaches" so he chose to do it at a different time and the result was fabulous

Originally Posted by lex

Eisen wanted a time run off.

Then he's an idiot, IMHO (or at least he is in this case - I actually like the guy.) Just because our play happened to occur late in the game doesn't mean it always will. If a player makes that move midway through the third quarter, what kind of a penalty would a time run off be?

Originally Posted by Calif. Bronco

Regarding the time-out, I don't see how they can really change that. I mean a field goal is a regular play (usually 4th down) so if they try to institute some rule about not being able to call timeout right before the snap they'd have to do it for regular plays too. And there's no way they're going to limit that. I mean we see defenses call timeout right before the snap of the ball quite often.

The fact of the matter is, most coaches try to "ice" the kicker by calling timeout before the team even breaks the huddle. It rarely works. Our coach, however, is not "most coaches" so he chose to do it at a different time and the result was fabulous

I agree. I expect to see a trend. I think people will start copying this method. Who cares what the fat old blowhards say.

Originally Posted by lex

Eisen wanted a time run off.

I think they did have some time run off the clock. Even so good grief with the penalty what did that put us in something like 3rd and forever?

Originally Posted by lex

OK, after the Buffalo game, Rich Eisen asked some head of officiating with the league about changing the rule on Selvin Youngs play where he alertly knocked the ball out of bounds.

Now people are calling Shanahans timing for calling the TO cheap and Ive heard another talking head mentione changing the rule for when youre allowed to call a TO to ice the kicker.

Does anyone need anymore proof that people dont like Denver?

It's not necessarily against Denver.

It's called cry babies.



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Originally Posted by topscribe

It's not necessarily against Denver.

It's called cry babies.



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Lex has a good point though, if it were any other team (The Patriots even) everybody would be talking about how smart they are.

I mean, if it were Lane Kiffin, everybody would be calling him The Next Mastermind.

I really don't care if people don't like the Broncos, but I can see/sense a bias sometimes. Kinda like when Rich Gannons quality of commentary improved noticably when the Raiders started to get back into the game.....

Originally Posted by Link

Lex has a good point though, if it were any other team (The Patriots even) everybody would be talking about how smart they are.

I mean, if it were Lane Kiffin, everybody would be calling him The Next Mastermind.

I really don't care if people don't like the Broncos, but I can see/sense a bias sometimes. Kinda like when Rich Gannons quality of commentary improved noticably when the Raiders started to get back into the game.....

Yeah the man could barely get out a five word sentence before the second half

Originally Posted by Link

Lex has a good point though, if it were any other team (The Patriots even) everybody would be talking about how smart they are.

I mean, if it were Lane Kiffin, everybody would be calling him The Next Mastermind.

I really don't care if people don't like the Broncos, but I can see/sense a bias sometimes. Kinda like when Rich Gannons quality of commentary improved noticably when the Raiders started to get back into the game.....

I watched the NFL replay on NFL network tonight and
Gannon was very fair I thought. He gave a lot of praise to Shanahan, Henry and the Broncos. He did not complain about he timeout, at least what I could take. (had to have the tv on low as the kiddies are sleeping lol)

He likes this team and thinks they will get better as Cutler improves.

I still hope the Tds can increase. Too many FGs so far for my taste.
If Denvers play like this vs Indy or SD they will get smoked, especially in Indy.

Originally Posted by lex

Eisen wanted a time run off.

eisen just tries to keep it interesting to viewers. ive seen him ask questions he knows the answer to already only to have the officiator give him the answer he already knew. he just tries to twist things a little or give a differant view/opinion. he does this everytime they do this segment...everytime.

Originally Posted by Link

Lex has a good point though, if it were any other team (The Patriots even) everybody would be talking about how smart they are.

I mean, if it were Lane Kiffin, everybody would be calling him The Next Mastermind.

I really don't care if people don't like the Broncos, but I can see/sense a bias sometimes. Kinda like when Rich Gannons quality of commentary improved noticably when the Raiders started to get back into the game.....

Here, it's "Tricky Shanny". Up to his old tricks again.

Originally Posted by sneakers

Here, it's "Tricky Shanny". Up to his old tricks again.

What old tricks?

Originally Posted by Link

I really don't care if people don't like the Broncos, but I can see/sense a bias sometimes. Kinda like when Rich Gannons quality of commentary improved noticably when the Raiders started to get back into the game.....

Anyone happen to hear Gannon on that safety punt? The returner let the ball bounce, it kicked left (toward the top of your TV) and went by the returner. Gannon said it took a bad bounce.

Bad bounce? Yeah, I guess it did.....if you're pulling for the Raiders.

But about the kick/time out. What would happen if Janokowski misses the first but makes the second? Are we sitting here, all pissed off, bashing Shanahan? Are these talking heads saying that time out shouldn't have been called or shouldn't have even been allowed to be called?

I saw that happen to the Bears (I think it was the Bears) last year. Lovie called a time out right before the snap but the opposing kicker still got it off and missed it. He made it on the second attempt. Now this was before the half, but did anyone bash him? Did anyone say that time out shouldn't have even been allowed to be called?