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    The video may be pulled soon from Youtube, so I apologize. Heres the story from the NY Times:

    Though nearly 35 years of “Star Wars” fandom have yielded all kinds of memorabilia inspired by George Lucas’s outer-space epic, including light saber lookalikes and wearable replicas of Princess Leia’s slave costume, one holy grail has lately eluded fans: a video version of the “Star Wars” films that takes the fullest advantage of their top-of-the-line home theater systems.

    That’s a Death Star-sized void that Lucasfilm plans to fill shortly. On Saturday, the studio is to announce that it will release all six live-action “Star Wars” features on Blu-ray DVD in fall 2011. A boxed set containing the Blu-ray versions of the movies, spanning from 1977’s “Star Wars” through the final 2005 prequel, “Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith,” will mark the first time the films have been offered in a high-definition home format, and will include documentary features and previously unseen footage.

    Given Mr. Lucas’s exacting standards for film presentations (he founded the THX company) and Lucasfilm’s embrace of digital movie technology (digital projection was used for the theatrical release of all three “Star Wars” prequels, and the last two prequels were shot digitally), many fans expected that high-definition versions of the “Star Wars” features would soon follow.

    But in a telephone interview, Mr. Lucas said he had been waiting to see if the Blu-ray format would be widely accepted by home viewers.

    “We’ve been wanting to do it as soon as we possibly could, but we just wanted to do it when enough people would be able to buy it and see it,” Mr. Lucas said on Friday from the Star Wars Celebration V convention in Orlando, Fla.

    When the original “Star Wars” movies were released on VHS in the early 1980s (along with other short-lived home video formats), Mr. Lucas said sales were slow to take off at first.

    “We came out with ‘Star Wars’ right at the beginning of VHS,” he said, “and we sold 300,000 copies.” Within a few years, he added, “They were selling 1 million, 2 million, 10 million. So we learned from that experience that if you’re too early in the marketplace, there’s just not enough demand for it.”

    In the case of Blu-ray, at least the potential for galactic-scale sales exists: a recent report by the media firm DEG: The Digital Entertainment Group said that nearly 2 million Blu-ray players were sold in the first half of 2010, an increase of 103 percent over last year, for a total of 19.4 million such devices in the U.S.

    Mr. Lucas said the versions of the first three “Star Wars” films – “Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” – included in the Blu-ray boxed set will be the special-edition releases that were shown theatrically in 1997 and digitally restored for a 2004 standard-definition DVD boxed set.

    Perhaps bracing for the reactions of fans who decried some of the changes made to the special-edition films – like, say, an exchange of gunfire between Han Solo and a certain green-skinned bounty hunter – Mr. Lucas said that to release the original versions of these films on Blu-ray was “kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good.”

    “You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally,” he added. “It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

    And while some viewers might want the “Star Wars” Blu-ray release in time for this year’s Life Day – that is, the Wookiee holiday that roughly coincides with the start of the holiday shopping season – Mr. Lucas said a 2011 release was the earliest possible date. (The boxed set will be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment; Lucasfilm did not give pricing information or indicate if the films will also be sold individually.)

    That, he said, was partly due to continuing work on the additional Blu-ray features, and partly to factors beyond his control.

    “We’ve been working on them for quite a while,” Mr. Lucas said, “but still, there are pipelines. Unfortunately, the recent releases get priority over what we call the classic versions of things.”
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    Awesome scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atwater27 View Post
    Awesome scene.
    I know. Apparently there is going to be a ton of footage they found in the special features from what I've read. I personally loved all six movies, warts and all, and can't wait to have a proper high def version of each.

    I wish they could insert that Luke scene back into Return of the Jedi for the release. And thank god, from what I saw they replaced the weird looking Yoda puppet in Phantom Menace with the digital version.

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    Yeah. the only problem I had with the edited version was the stupid one with han stepping on Jabba's tail. That was retarded and unrealistic.

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    I know a guy who got all bent out of shape with the edited versions of the old films. Says it wasn't "authentic". I know I am a star wars nerd, but apperently there are different "degrees" of nerdsim I was unaware of.

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    Only thing that ticks me off about Star Wars is the way they've slowly released them. I've got them on VHS, Laser Discs, and DVD and now I am going to get sucked into buying the HD versions.

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    it's about bloody time!

    Quote Originally Posted by atwater27 View Post
    I know a guy who got all bent out of shape with the edited versions of the old films. Says it wasn't "authentic". I know I am a star wars nerd, but apperently there are different "degrees" of nerdsim I was unaware of.
    i was one of those people. when Lucas released the "Special Editions", it really pissed me off. he tampered with the originals, and there's nothing more frustrating than watching a movie you remember seeing one way, and the 2nd time you see it, it's been altered. i hate the special editions, and it has nothing to do with nerdism. it's called being frustrated at Lucas for ******* with something that didn't need to be ****** with in the first place.

    there's a big uproar about it over at

    http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/

    i just hope Lucas releases the original first 3 (IV, V, VI) in their original unaltered formats.

    EDIT: F MY LIFE!!! he's only releasing the Special Edition crap. George Lucas sucks ball sack!


    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    Only thing that ticks me off about Star Wars is the way they've slowly released them. I've got them on VHS, Laser Discs, and DVD and now I am going to get sucked into buying the HD versions.
    Lucas initially didn't even plan to release them on Blu-Ray. he kept insisting that he had no digital copies of the originals, in an unaltered state, and that was the reason why. now he's back tracking to try and save face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atwater27 View Post
    Yeah. the only problem I had with the edited version was the stupid one with han stepping on Jabba's tail. That was retarded and unrealistic.
    Yes, that was my biggest problem with the Special Editions, too. Getting rid of the matte lines around the ships, the new shots (like the Bantha herd on Tatooine or the improved Wampa scene) were great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overtime View Post

    Lucas initially didn't even plan to release them on Blu-Ray. he kept insisting that he had no digital copies of the originals, in an unaltered state, and that was the reason why. now he's back tracking to try and save face.
    I think you are thinking of the DVDs. Until 2004 when they released the originals on DVD for the first time, the did not have digital copies until then. The 1997 Special Editions were just a clean up and transfer to another stock of film to get rid of the aging and matte lines. And you are correct, some of the changes were jarring and stupid (like me and Atwater pointed out), but cleaning up some of the special effects like the new shots of the X-Wings flying off of Yavin I thought enhanced the look of the films. At least Empire was left mostly unchanged, which is a testament to how great that film was.

    I think the only way to get the true originals are on the 2 disc special editions that came out for the 30th Anniversary. If you haven't got those, you should pick them up. They are pretty cheaply priced. They contain some really crisp LaserDisc transfers of the unaltered original trilogy and are about as good as your gonna get. If you play them in a BluRay player they upscale to 1080i and look fantastic.

    They have used copies for around $6: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Epis...888405&sr=8-14

    I have those versions and watch them frequently for nostalgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    Only thing that ticks me off about Star Wars is the way they've slowly released them. I've got them on VHS, Laser Discs, and DVD and now I am going to get sucked into buying the HD versions.
    I said the same thing, and my wife said, "You don't HAVE to buy them."

    I can't blame Lucas, I can only blame awesome new technology for improving sound and audio quality. At least he waited. They were originally going to release Lord of the Rings on HD-DVD thinking it would win the hi-def war and had to redo the whole project for BluRay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShake View Post
    Yes, that was my biggest problem with the Special Editions, too. Getting rid of the matte lines around the ships, the new shots (like the Bantha herd on Tatooine or the improved Wampa scene) were great.
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    ooh I forgot... the added singing scene in return of the jedi with that stupid screaming alien chick. Talk about annoying. I fast forward through that part every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShake View Post
    I think you are thinking of the DVDs. Until 2004 when they released the originals on DVD for the first time, the did not have digital copies until then. The 1997 Special Editions were just a clean up and transfer to another stock of film to get rid of the aging and matte lines. And you are correct, some of the changes were jarring and stupid (like me and Atwater pointed out), but cleaning up some of the special effects like the new shots of the X-Wings flying off of Yavin I thought enhanced the look of the films. At least Empire was left mostly unchanged, which is a testament to how great that film was.
    no im not thinking of the DVD's. at one point a few years ago Lucas said he had NO PLANS to release anything on Blu-Ray.

    the originals that were released on DVD, were not cleaned up, they were anamorphic, really grainy, and of poor quality.

    the issue with Lucas is he doesn't want to spend the money to copy the anamorphic originals to digital quality and then put them on regular DVD or Blu-Ray, he's a freakin' cheap skate and he's pissing a lot of Star Wars fans off.

    he should have never ever altered scenes or lines. if he wanted to enhance a light saber or something, that woulda been fine with me.

    I think the only way to get the true originals are on the 2 disc special editions that came out for the 30th Anniversary. If you haven't got those, you should pick them up. They are pretty cheaply priced. They contain some really crisp LaserDisc transfers of the unaltered original trilogy and are about as good as your gonna get. If you play them in a BluRay player they upscale to 1080i and look fantastic.

    They have used copies for around $6: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Epis...888405&sr=8-14
    they're still not as good as if they had been converted to all digital and re-mastered.


    the special edition versions suck! what has happened to Star Wars is awful. Just imagine if Christopher Nolan took the Dark Knight, and altered a bunch of scenes and lines, but you've already seen the original? So Nolan alters the Dark Knight, and puts the Special Edition out on DVD but never releases the original, how would you feel? It wouldn't feel right. It would be really awkward to watch, because you were expecting what you've already seen before, but instead you get something completely different.

    It won't matter to those who never saw the originals, because they dont know what they're missing, but to diehards like me, who saw the originals, the Special Edition versions are a disgrace and a sacrilege!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overtime View Post

    It won't matter to those who never saw the originals, because they dont know what they're missing, but to diehards like me, who saw the originals, the Special Edition versions are a disgrace and a sacrilege!
    Well, I grew up with the originals (saw Empire and Jedi in theaters) and I understand were you are coming from. The one he messed with the most was A New Hope as it was the most incomplete when he filmed it. Aside from the added scenes, most of the Special Edition stuff was just enhanced lightsabers and getting rid of the transparent boxes around the spaceships. I think my biggest issues with the special editions are:

    Star Wars:
    -The Jabba and Han scene. Unnecessary and horribly rendered.
    -Greedo shooting first. Looked weird and didn't need to happen.

    Empire Strikes Back:
    I actually thought all of this was done great. The only things they added like the new Wampa scene and the establishing shots of Bespin were neat.

    Return of the Jedi:
    -The New Jabba's palace dance number. Stupid.

    Other than that, its the same story with a little CG added and cleaned up matte lines. I agree that if they had the option to watch a cleaned up version minus the added scenes and maybe just the clean ups, that would be a nice fan service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShake View Post
    The video may be pulled soon from Youtube, so I apologize. Heres the story from the NY Times:



    And the never before seen deleted scene:

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShake View Post
    Well, I grew up with the originals (saw Empire and Jedi in theaters) and I understand were you are coming from. The one he messed with the most was A New Hope as it was the most incomplete when he filmed it. Aside from the added scenes, most of the Special Edition stuff was just enhanced lightsabers and getting rid of the transparent boxes around the spaceships. I think my biggest issues with the special editions are:

    Star Wars:
    -The Jabba and Han scene. Unnecessary and horribly rendered.
    -Greedo shooting first. Looked weird and didn't need to happen.

    Empire Strikes Back:
    I actually thought all of this was done great. The only things they added like the new Wampa scene and the establishing shots of Bespin were neat.

    Return of the Jedi:
    -The New Jabba's palace dance number. Stupid.

    Other than that, its the same story with a little CG added and cleaned up matte lines. I agree that if they had the option to watch a cleaned up version minus the added scenes and maybe just the clean ups, that would be a nice fan service.
    I also didn't like the additional sarlaac footage... but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordTrychon View Post
    I also didn't like the additional sarlaac footage... but that's just me.

    Well, it helped me cope with Boba Fetts death a little more. Instead of falling into a sand vagina, at least a monster with a beak came and got him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShake View Post
    Well, I grew up with the originals (saw Empire and Jedi in theaters) and I understand were you are coming from. The one he messed with the most was A New Hope as it was the most incomplete when he filmed it. Aside from the added scenes, most of the Special Edition stuff was just enhanced lightsabers and getting rid of the transparent boxes around the spaceships. I think my biggest issues with the special editions are:

    Star Wars:
    -The Jabba and Han scene. Unnecessary and horribly rendered.
    -Greedo shooting first. Looked weird and didn't need to happen.

    Empire Strikes Back:
    I actually thought all of this was done great. The only things they added like the new Wampa scene and the establishing shots of Bespin were neat.

    Return of the Jedi:
    -The New Jabba's palace dance number. Stupid.

    Other than that, its the same story with a little CG added and cleaned up matte lines. I agree that if they had the option to watch a cleaned up version minus the added scenes and maybe just the clean ups, that would be a nice fan service.
    i didn't like the modified Abominable snowman scene in Empire Strikes back. that really ruined it for me.

    didn't like the modified celebration at the end of the Return of the Jedi.

    i didnt care for any of the stuff he re-did in New Hope.

    i think it was just awful how he went in and tampered with all that stuff. it was fine the way it was. if it was really that bad, then he should have postponed the movies until he got them the way he wanted, and then released them to the theatres.

    no other director does this nonsense, not sure why Lucas thinks he has to be the exception to the rule.


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