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    Dean: Herm's plan is simple; be more like the Bears
    Rick Dean

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — After watching the offense struggling to get out first gear, the special teams missing a chip-shot field goal and the defense giving up way too many third-down conversions and one huge passing play, Chiefs fans asked a common question after last week’s season-opening stinker in Houston.

    This is Herm Edwards’ blueprint for the future?

    Clearly, losing 20-3 with breakdowns in all three phases isn’t what Edwards had in mind when he arrived in Kansas City last year with the announced goal of reshaping the Chiefs.

    So much for stating the obvious.
    We thought we had some understanding of Edwards’ philosophy before heading to Houston.

    In condensed form, it involved winning the battle for field position with a defense that allows few points and forces turnovers, thus putting the offense in position to score. Offensively, Edwards wanted a conservative attack that did not put the defense in harm’s way with turnovers and which scored at least three points on any venture into the red zone.

    Well, that capsule is close. But Edwards this week provided a more detailed look at his grand plan, his idea of what the Chiefs will be after another year of remodeling.

    Edwards, quite simply, wants the Chiefs to look like the Chicago Bears, the NFC champion of 2006 and Kansas City’s opponent Sunday at Soldier Field.

    Edwards clearly likes the team put together by Lovie Smith, a friend and coaching compatriot from their days together on Tony Dungy’s staff in Tampa Bay.

    “He’s built that team like the model we had in Tampa. They built it through defense,” Edwards said. “They took the ball away 44 times last year. Athird of their points were set up by the defense. They have a mindset to play defense to give the offense a short field. They’re not very complicated.”

    The Bears lack offensive firepower, but their stifling, turnover-forcing defense means Smith’s offense doesn’t have to be like Dungy’s in Indianapolis — though Chicago would have fared better in the Super Bowl with Dungy’s offense. What team wouldn’t?

    But few teams are blessed with the Indy offense, so coaches like Edwards and Smith approach things differently.

    “Everybody wants all these bells and whistles, like it’s Christmas,” Edwards said. “I would love to have an offense that scores 30 points a game, but most offenses don’t do that. But if we could score 24 a game, we could win a lot of games. If we had scored 24 points every game last year, we’d have been 14-2.”

    This year, however, the standing gag says the Royals may score 24 in fewer games than it takes the Chiefs. And while Edwards believes his offense will be on track eventually — such as when it scored 41 points in a Week Three route of San Francisco last year — until then he’s banking on a defense that keeps the Chiefs competitive in a low-scoring game.

    “Most offenses are not going to go 80 yards every time,” he noted. “That’s why you have to have a good defense, good special teams. We’ve got a good punter. If you can punt the ball down there and make them go 80 yards every time, they’re not going to do it. That’s how we have to play.”

    No argument there. Not even a murmur of dissension

    The concern is that defensive gurus like Edwards and Smith are so concerned about not putting defenses in tenuous position that they become overly conservative on offense. Reluctant to take risks, they get few rewards. They get games like the three-point outputs the Chiefs and Bears got in their losses last week.

    The Edwards revolution in Kansas City may ultimately produce a new order, much as Smith did in Chicago. But right now we’re worried that it may never get a shot off.

    Rick Dean can be reached at (785) 295-5628 or rick.dean@cjonline.com.

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    Oops, a mistake on the title ...

    But anyway, I saw the Houston x KC game.

    Huard was actually playing excellent for most of the time. He was playing his kind of football; conservative, within himself, and making some good reads and decisions. Huard's main weakness is that he doesn't have the arm to throw a good deep ball, or the zip for some of the outside passes, but whenever he throws the short, inside ones, they're extremely accurate and usually not prone to interceptions. One INT was a receiver's fault, but the other was a great play by a Houston linebacker.

    So, it looks like Huard is a perfect fit for Edwards' plans for the KC offense. They actually did have some good drives, but not much points to show for them. The receivers just kept dropping or fumbling the ball. Either they're really bad at it, or Houston saw the plays coming a mile away, because they reacted to them immediately.

    I don't think the players are the problem at offense for KC; I think they need a new offensive coordinator, or even a new head coach to bring their offense in a new direction. The commentators noted that in the preseason, they're offense was vanilla, but it still looked vanilla in this game. Houston's defense was usually on top, making plays. They need to be much more unpredictable.

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    To play more the like Bears, the chiefs need to have the Bears
    defense and currenly they are not even close to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medford Bronco View Post
    To play more the like Bears, the chiefs need to have the Bears
    defense and currenly they are not even close to that.
    exactly! the talent level isn't even remotely close. . .


    another excellent quote from herm-- "we've got a good punter."



    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    To summarize the article:

    Kansas City blows.

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    Herm's plan is simple....

















    .... and so is Herm.
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein

    Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    exactly! the talent level isn't even remotely close. . .


    another excellent quote from herm-- "we've got a good punter."



    Yep, you don't just decide to have a Bears defense. They still need the talent, whether they choose to go defense or offense. It's not like it's easier to build a great defense over a great offense.

    For the KC fans, though, it's probably better that they suck at defense than at offense. A high powered offense with a weak defense will still bring in the crowds, because it's so much fun to watch. Just look at Detroit. (edit: oops, guess I'm wrong ... http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...lacked_ou.html)

    Then look at Minnesotta, who has a real good defense; they had trouble selling out tickets, even though they have the best rb coming out of college, Adrian Peterson.
    Last edited by omac; 09-13-2007 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos_mtnman View Post
    Herm's plan is simple....

















    .... and so is Herm.
    hehehe, Herm should embrace some complexity.

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