I think AMA ( assistant moderating association) should have the final say in who does and who does not get banned.
Yeah, that last is what would hold me back from an IP system; it doesn't matter how well and fairly it works if everyone hates it. Review by more than one person prevents it being (or being seen as) a Mods grudge against one or more members; "I didn't do anything wrong, really, but so-and-so ALWAYS hated me, so s/he banned me. " I'm not accusing anyone of anything, by any means, but you KNOW it would happen, if only because some always prefer to blame others for their own transgressions and the penalties incurred. Review by a small group of Mods allows it to be handled in a timely yet fair manner without something like that scene with the stolen collection plate money in The Simpsons:
"Everybody turn around and look at THIS!"
I'm happy so say it's never been an issue that directly affected me, anywhere. I get more upset when people cross the line with others than when they do it with me; when I'm the recipient my reaction is usually along the lines of "wow, that was rude and uncalled for; oh, well... " and while I ain't perfect, I do at least TRY to be civil even when I can't be cordial. MOST people will treat you as you treat them--good or bad.
Anyway, thanks for requesting our input, ya'll (for future reference, my vote on a garish white background with gratuitous video ads and pics is "please kill me now.... " ) Here's hoping ya'll find a solution that satisfies everyone (yes, I said that with a straight face, but it wasn't easy.... )
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
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That's what this discussion is for. However, keep in mind that what you just described is very hard, if not impossible. What I mean, is that rules lead to interpretation, hence inconsistancies between mods, just as there are inconsistancies between posters in how they read/interpret rules.
This is why we need to define procedures, which might be x number of mods needed to issue a suspension ban, or x number of points if we use a points system, or x number of warnings, or x number of members that form a 'jury pool' for lack of a better word.
Or, we go the route of having some rules and an individual mod can suspend/ban, with an appeal process to have the suspension/ban lifted after an appeal and review.
Lots of different options, but quite honestly none of them will likely be perfect. In a perfect world, or message board I should say, there would be no need to even talk about suspension processes.
That's why i say you leave it to a majority vote. if they split 3-3, it's a hung jury.
I have no problem with how things are handled now. Of course I'm pretty easy. Just ask Mr.B.
Yea I agree with Escobar. The Mods on this site are pretty funny. If I did something I'd get in trouble. And then pretty much anyone else could say/do the same thing and nothing would happen to them.
Oh well.
It happens.
But I don't really care how things are handled.
All though being fair would be a nice start.
I also don't mind the IP system as well.
I kind of like it over at Mania.
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I've seen some good ideas for the most part, but Dogfish pretty much sums up my thinking as well as anyone. The mods are outstanding here, and I trust their judgement pretty thoroughly. If anything, they are a little slow on the trigger, but they almost always get it right. I've had a post deleted once, and the mod was 100% right to do so - and he gave me more of an explanation than I really needed as it happened. I would suggest a max 3 day suspension from an individual mod, up to a week or two from 3 mods, and a lifetime ban to be done only by Tned.
Not crazy about an Infraction Point system, but I could live with it. I'd rather the Mods had the authority right at hand - it will tend to make their instructions get followed.
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