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    Default Group Stage Draw

    Congrats to the Gunners & Celtic for qualifying for the start of the proper Champions League................

    The draw takes place in Monaco today at 5pm BST (Midday, Eastern)

    The qualifying teams have been seeded into four pots, dependant on their UEFA Co-efficient (based upon European results over the last seven years). For the first time, all four English clubs are seeded in the top pot.

    > Teams cannot be drawn against teams from the same federation

    > Teams cannot be drawn against sides from the same pot

    * 2nd leg to be played Monday, 3rd Sept, having been postponed due to the death of Sevilla's Antonio Puerta.

    Pot 1

    AC Milan; Barcelona; Liverpool; Inter Milan; Arsenal; Real Madrid; Chelsea; Manchester United

    Pot 2

    Valencia; Lyon; Porto; Sevilla/AEK Athens* ; PSV Eindhoven; Roma ; Benfica; Werder Bremen

    Pot 3

    Celtic; Schalke; Stuttgart; Steaua Bucharest; CSKA Moscow; Sporting Lisbon; Lazio; Marseille

    Pot 4

    Rangers ; Shakhtar Donetsk; Besiktas; Olympiakos; Dynamo Kiev; Fenerbache; Slavia Prage; Rosenborg
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    Group A: ~ Liverpool, Porto, Marseille, Besiktas

    Group B: ~ Chelsea, Valencia, Schalke 04, Rosenborg

    Group C: ~ Real Madrid, Werder Bremen, Lazio, Olympiakos

    Group D: ~ AC Milan, Benfica, Celtic, Shakhtar Donetsk

    Group E: ~ Barcelona, Lyon, Stuttgart, Rangers

    Group F: ~ Manure, Roma, Sporting Lisbon, Dynamo Kiev

    Group G: ~ Inter Milan, PSV Eindhoven, CSKA Moscow, Fenerbahce

    Group H: ~ Arsenal, Sevilla/AEK Athens, Steau Bucharest, Slavia Prague

    Couldn't have really asked for a better draw for the Reds, a trip to Turkey is always tricky, but other than that

    The rest of the English clubs have done alright as well, although UEFA have got to be concerned about Manure playing Roma after the trouble in both legs last season
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    Default Champions League Changes Pondered

    I'd heard rumours about this, personally I think it would just weaken the competition..............

    BBC ~ Europe's top leagues have asked for more time to consider Uefa proposals to allow domestic cup winners into the Champions League.

    President Michel Platini submitted the proposals at a meeting between Uefa and league and club representatives.

    Under the proposals, which could begin in 2009, the Premier League's top three and the FA Cup winners would qualify.
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    At the moment, England, Spain & Italy are the three nations with a possible maximum of 4 entrants (1st & 2nd place into the group stage, 3rd & 4th into the 3rd qualifying round)...............I don't know about Spain & Italy, but certainly in England it wouldn't make a bit of difference..........the BS in 95 were the last club outside of the Top-4 to win the FA Cup, and you've got to go back to '88 to find a club that's no longer in the Premiership that won it.........All in all, one of the currrent Top 4, Manure, Chav$ki, Arsenal & Liverpool have played in 19 of the last twenty Cup Finals (91, Forest vs Spurs being the exception), winning on 17 of those occasions (Wimbledon '88 & BS '95).

    So the FA CUp winner has already qualified for the CL in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place.............what to do with the FA Cups spot?

    Give it back to 4th in the league, or give to the runners up, as is currently done. I'm sorry, although you have to be on top of your game for the Cup run, it is possible, if unlikely, for a lower division side to reach the Final without playing a top flight team, ala Millwall in 04.............hardly proved they'd have been worthy of qualifying for UEFA's B tournament, never mind a seat at the top table . Besides, the thought of Millwall's fans running into virtually any set of Italian fans :shake:

    His controversial proposals would also see six places in the Champions League reserved for champions of the 40 lowest leagues in Uefa's 50 member countries.
    WHY??????? This can only lead to a weaker competition..........look at the draw as it currently stands, and you can pretty well predict the winner's and runner's up of 5/6 of the groups.........introducing poorer teams into the goup stages would reduce, not increase the chances of someone doing a Porto.......leave the system as it is, poorer quality sides have to qualify against sides of equal status, to play the more difficult ties later on. I don't want to see regular 7/8-0 thumpings in the group stages, which is what you would get.

    The Uefa president is also likely to meet stern opposition to his proposal to move the Champions League final to a weekend date.

    Platini said: "At the Champions League final in Athens in May, I was astounded there were no families and children at the match.

    "This would change if it was played at the weekend."
    One big problem with this idea, which in theory I like......................UEFA give too many bloody tickets to the 'UEFA Family', whatever the hell that means...............simple fact is that not enough tickets, as with the Superbowl, FA Cup final or any other big event, get to the real fans.

    And the other problem is that whilst I might take a chance on going to the final myself, there's no way I'd take my lad..........UEFA have repeatedly been proven to be incompetent buffoons when it comes to organising ticketing, entrance policies, security & stadia criteria for finals...................

    Rant over, for now
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    I thought we (Arsenal) played a great game against Sevilla.

    First of all let me say I was AMAZED when I saw us shooting. We were kicking the ball towards the net. No 250 passes before kicking.

    Recently Fabregas is scoring for fun, I think his shot would have gone in anyway even if it didn't get the deflection, it was curving.

    Adebayor is proving me wrong, I'm starting to like his attitude, he is trying to get the guys pumped up, he is chasing every ball.

    And of course, the last goal was classic Arsenal.

    My man of the match was Fabregas, 1 goal, 2 assists (more like 1 1/2 because his free kick that set up Van Persie's goal was headed by Sagna first).

    Speaking of Sagna, he is looking like the best right back in the world to me. When we signed him I thought " Oh great, another unkown French player" but he is really looking good.

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    Some big games tonight:

    CSKA Moscow v Fenerbahce, G,
    Dynamo Kiev v Sporting, F,
    Inter Milan v PSV, G,
    Lyon v Rangers, E,
    Man Utd v Roma, F,
    Sevilla v Slavia Prague, H,
    Steaua Bucuresti v Arsenal, H,
    VfB Stuttgart v Barcelona, E,

    Tie of the night's probably the Manure vs Roma, Roma will be smarting after last years 7-1 drubbing, and there's the unfortunate shadow of crowd trouble around the game

    Just got my tix for tomorrow night
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    COME ON ARSENAL!

    We will need to have the mental strength, and the team spirit, and the focus, and the strength mentally, and the focus, and the BELIEF!
    ~ Arsene Wenger

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    Good results for all three British sides last night

    Tonight's games:

    Benfica v Shakhtar Donetsk, D,
    Besiktas v FC Porto, A,
    Celtic v AC Milan, D,
    Lazio v Real Madrid, C,
    Liverpool v Marseille, A,
    Rosenborg v Schalke 04, B,
    Valencia v Chelsea, B,
    Werder Bremen v Olympiakos, C,
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    Only saw the last half hour of Liverpool v Marseille, disappointing result.

    How about Celtic beating AC Milan the defending champs, wouldn't have predicted that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    Only saw the last half hour of Liverpool v Marseille, disappointing result.

    How about Celtic beating AC Milan the defending champs, wouldn't have predicted that.
    Nah, look at it this way instead! ... Tonight our Scottish brothers-in-arms sent a clear message to AC for stealing what *should* have been the sixth star on Liverpool's European crown! GO CELTIC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    Only saw the last half hour of Liverpool v Marseille, disappointing result.

    How about Celtic beating AC Milan the defending champs, wouldn't have predicted that.
    Now that I've finally calmed down a bit, all I'll say about last night is that it was the worst performance I can remember seeing in nearly 30 years of watching the Reds live................all those words that Alan Hansen uses on MOTD spring to mind: dire, dreadful, atrocious, terrible...........

    And as for the Celtic game, Dida, you are a complete moron

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    Good result for the Gunners last night

    Just hope the Reds can get something out of tonight's game
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    Last night was just amazing. It was perfect football, who cares about Barcelona when Arsenal are playing so well.

    7-0 and into the record books.

    Walcott had a great game and so did Hleb BUT Fabregas was simply amazing. He was making passes from 70 yards out and those passes were so perfect Walcott/Adebayor was able to run on to them.

    Superb performance.

    Let's get this straight, Arsenal beat their opponents 7-0 while Liverpool lose 2-1 to their oppoenents. Both opposing teams are of equal talent. It's going to be an interesting Sunday.


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    I really have no idea what the hell happened last night, but then again, we can never do these things the easy way
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    Default Matchday 4

    Second half of the group stage, and things should start to be coming clearer..............

    Group A

    P W D L F A GD PTS
    1 Marseille 3 2 1 0 4 1 3 7
    2 FC Porto 3 1 2 0 3 2 1 5
    3 Besiktas 3 1 0 2 2 4 -2 3
    4 Liverpool 3 0 1 2 2 4 -2 1

    Tonight: Liverpool vs Besiktas, Porto vs Marseille.
    Anything less than a win will effectively eliminate Liverpool from this years competition.

    Group B

    P W D L F A GD PTS
    1 Chelsea 3 2 1 0 5 2 3 7
    2 Rosenborg 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
    3 Valencia 3 1 0 2 2 4 -2 3
    4 Schalke 04 3 1 0 2 2 3 -1 3

    Tonight: Schalke 04 vs Chelsea, Valencia vs Rosenborg
    Still all to play for

    Group C

    P W D L F A GD PTS
    1 Real Madrid 3 2 1 0 8 5 3 7
    2 Olympiakos 3 1 1 1 6 6 0 4
    3 Werder Bremen 3 1 0 2 4 6 -2 3
    4 Lazio 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2

    Tonight: Lazio vs Werder Bremen, Olympiakos vs Real Madrid
    Real have the early advantage, but it's all still there

    Group D

    P W D L F A GD PTS
    1 AC Milan 3 2 0 1 7 4 3 6
    2 Shakhtar Donetsk 3 2 0 1 4 4 0 6
    3 Benfica 3 1 0 2 2 3 -1 3
    4 Celtic 3 1 0 2 2 4 -2 3

    Tonight: Celtic vs Benfica, Shakhtar Donetsk vs AC Milan
    Still wide open
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    Pure luck against Besiktas, we're gonna' beat Slavia Prague 9-0 tonight anyway so who cares about your win?

    By the way, I still don't think your going to get past the group stages.

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