He gets it done man. I find it funny that you would say that Shaq helped Kobe out with his championships (even though he has 2 without him) and yet Wade got one with Shaq in tow as well. How many rings does Lebron have? And hell, did Shaq join the Cavs recently too?
When all is said and done Kobe has had to do more with less. Too even think that the surrounding guys on the Lakers right now are great players (aside from Fisher) is insane on so many levels. When people speak about Jordan they dont care about his MVPs, they dont care about how he shot for most of the game. They only care about when it was clutch and how he performed and how he got his teammates involved. Again, this doesnt make Kobe better than MJ or even in the same league. But there is no other player right now (except maybe for Tim Duncan) who has had the kind of impact in the current state of the NBA. Sure, there are some really talented players out there but most havent even scratched the surface of what Kobe has accomplished. I love how you try to put Shaq in the same class as guys like Akeem Olajawon just because the dude could dunk a basketball. Just because the guy has size doesnt make him great. He won a lot of awards for good reason but he was still vastly overrated compared to a lot of other big men to play the game.
Then look at a guy like Dirk Nowitzki who can shoot the lights out from just about anywhere only when it matters he falls short. In the end its all about getting it done and winning championships. Since Shaq has left Kobe has gotten two more rings and proven he didnt need an allstar center to win a championship. Its ok if you dont like the guy lord knows there are plenty that dont but dont try and sell me this crap that he is some scrub not worthy of praise that he gets. Fact is man, until Wade does more and Lebron actually MAKES the finals there is no better player than Kobe right now at this time.
People look at individual accomplishments as well as team accomplishments.
Lebron is only 25 years old. He has plenty of time to get MULTIPLE titles. esspecially if he pairs up with Wade/Bosh/Amare.
Lakers have 2 great players. Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol.
Last edited by EMB6903; 06-20-2010 at 02:21 PM.
Im not sure i would put Gasol there yet but he has the potential. Yes, Lebron is young so it may only be a matter of time but its also for that reason i dont put him above Kobe, YET. He might be beating Kobe in the stats dept but if he doesnt get any Championships i dont think he will be considered better strictly off the stats he put up. Time will tell.
I think Gasol is the best big man in the NBA. Garnett is too old and Dwight Howard is the worst 'elite' player in any sport that I've ever seen. DH has no offense other than dunks. Everytime he takes a hook shot Karemm doubles over in pain.
LeBron only has Kobe in the stat department because of Kobe's age. Honestly the funny thing is that people act like LeBron is hands down the best player in the league, he's not. He is the best player in the league, but Dwayne Wade can score as many poins as he does, and Wade is a great defender in his own right.
LeBron however is the biggest money maker the league has seen since Michael Jordan. And, to be fair, he's the most dominant player in the league....
When he isn't quitting on his team.
to be honest.. I think Wade is every bit as good as Lebron right now.
I cant believe all the complaints!
lebron james is nothing more than a glorified Karl Malone. Hes good, but nowhere near Kobe. lebron is a product of E!SPN and Gatorade. Hes the most popular player in the world, who has a really good team around him. So good, they had the best record in the NBA. 1 player cant accomplish this by himself. He also had the reigning "coach of the year" as well, who was then quickly fired for no apparent reason after the season ended.
Kobe makes shots lebron could only dream of. Kobe finishes teams in their house with insane double teams, hands and elbows in his face, getting fouled and he STILL makes the shots he needs to make when the game is on the line in the most clutch situations time and time again. lebron hasnt made 1/10 the clutch shots Kobe has made, and thats with NO HELP from any other players on his team. Hes doin work by himself and the opposing team knows it.
Kobe also puts in 10 times as much work both during the season, and in the offseason. I have read and heard nothing but poor remarks about lebrons training program, but i am constantly seeing this clown on TV or hearing about him "hangin" in NY. many observers comment that lebron spends waaaaay toooo much time dickin around and this is the main reason why he still has nothing to show for his talent. Imagine if this kid focused on his game and truly took it to the next level, instead of meeting up with bosh or wade to try to get his poor little self some help.
BTW, i dont like Kobe as a person. Hes arrogant and a mean guy, with poor moral character. but as a fanatical competitor on the court, no ones even close.
lil lebron also only trails Jordan in all time "BS, useless cheesed!ck stats cause i still dont have jack squat to show for all my talent" rating as well. (BSUCSCISDHJSTSFAMT)
lil bron's comin around though. Soon he'll be the all time leader.
I mean he just made yet another commercial where he does a backflip and eats some Cheetos, so its just a matter of time before he takes down Jordan.
Cause scoring titles and regular season "whos most popular according to
E!SPN" awards get you rings.
As i stated, a glorified Karl Malone. Nothing more.
Oh look! Yet another commercial with lil' bron doin a backflip off a diving board into a giant tub o' guacamole!
Dude got mad skillz!
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