Thread: Elway out of line?

I realize that as Broncos fans we all respect and revere John Elway. For this very reason, his recent comments regarding Jay Cutler's leadership have some pretty big reverberations in the Broncos community. I, for one, am sick of all the media melodrama regarding the Cutler-Marshall fiasco and am disappointed in Elway for making some pretty irresponsible comments.

Here's some more detailed commentary on my feelings about this issue:

Elway's Distracting Comments Out of Line

I'd love to hear what you all think. Is Elway being irresponsible here? Do his comments make it harder for Cutler to emerge from Elway's shadow?

they asked, he answered.

It's better than what John does at restaurants in his free time.

It does seem odd to criticize someone for being critical in the media. . .through the media.

Kinda contradictory.

I didn't think they were irresponsible at all. Elway speaks his mind, just as his
young successor Cutler does. That makes them the same kind of leader, as I
infer it, and that excites the hell out of me for Cutler.

Actually, if you listen carefully, Elway gives both sides of it. While he said he
was "surprised" at Cutler's remarks and said he wouldn't personally do that, he
indicated his support of Cutler and said, in essence, that it is a sign of
leadership. I thought, in the end, it was generally supportive of Cutler.

It would be best to hear the live interview, which you can do here.

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Originally Posted by topscribe

I didn't think they were irresponsible at all. Elway speaks his mind, just as his
young successor Cutler does. That makes them the same kind of leader, as I
infer it, and that excites the hell out of me for Cutler.

Actually, if you listen carefully, Elway gives both sides of it. While he said he
was "surprised" at Cutler's remarks and said he wouldn't personally do that, he
indicated his support of Cutler and said, in essence, that it is a sign of
leadership. I thought, in the end, it was generally supportive of Cutler.

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I agree. Many times being a good leader means doing or saying things that they people you are leading don't like.

Do we want Cutler to be the most-liked QB, or the most-respected QB?

I'll vote for option #2.

nah, i dont think it was out of line. the media likes to help twist everything into a story. in some ways i agree with him. cutler shouldnt have spoken so outwardly about marshall through the media...maybe he could have addressed him one on one as a friend and team mate. you never get results when you embarrass someone like that in the open. cutler showed his youth and needs to have some tact. saying all of that, marshall's still a big galute for slipping on a mcdonalds bag.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

nah, i dont think it was out of line. the media likes to help twist everything into a story. in some ways i agree with him. cutler shouldnt have spoken so outwardly about marshall through the media...maybe he could have addressed him one on one as a friend and team mate. you never get results when you embarrass someone like that in the open. cutler showed his youth and needs to have some tact. saying all of that, marshall's still a big galute for slipping on a mcdonalds bag.

Well, the problem is, Cutler said he has already talked to Marshall "many times."
As Champ said, you can do only so much talking, then it's like just hearing
yourself speak, over and over. I don't believe Cutler just popped off to the
media. He saw what he viewed as a serious situation, so he resorted to a
serious measure. And Cutler said he stands by what he said.

I really like the leader in him.

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Slow News period.. Cutler did the right thing and Elway is intitled to his opinion.

Originally Posted by topscribe

Well, the problem is, Cutler said he has already talked to Marshall "many times."
As Champ said, you can do only so much talking, then it's like just hearing
yourself speak, over and over. I don't believe Cutler just popped off to the
media. He saw what he viewed as a serious situation, so he resorted to a
serious measure. And Cutler said he stands by what he said.

I really like the leader in him.

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where are the closed door team meetings? cutler can handle issues without getting the media involved....at least i hope so.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

where are the closed door team meetings? cutler can handle issues without getting the media involved....at least i hope so.

they spent most of the offseason together and are close. they most definitely had the discussion, as cutler said they did...

the media asked jay about brandon and he answered honestly. nothing he said was wrong or out of line, so i don't see how brandon could even be upset about it. hopefully he just listens to the words of his friend and leader and shapes up.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

where are the closed door team meetings? cutler can handle issues without getting the media involved....at least i hope so.

Well, the media is unquestionably going to ask and ask and ask. So, maybe Jay needs a better strategy for handling things. But it's a Catch-22: if he says nothing, he's soft; if he criticizes, he's too outspoken. What the hell is he supposed to say about a guy who just walked out of a DUI hearing in a cast.

Denver probably should have done a better job of protecting Cutler. This to me is a PR issues. Elway is fully aware of these things. I think he also dropped the ball and should have supported Cutler publicly and criticized him behind closed doors.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

nah, i dont think it was out of line. the media likes to help twist everything into a story. in some ways i agree with him. cutler shouldnt have spoken so outwardly about marshall through the media...maybe he could have addressed him one on one as a friend and team mate. you never get results when you embarrass someone like that in the open. cutler showed his youth and needs to have some tact. saying all of that, marshall's still a big galute for slipping on a mcdonalds bag.

I agree here even if he has talked with him privately airing dirty clothes in public RARELY accomplishes anything..

All it does is cause an already immature kid to question himself, even more than he is already..

Best analogy I have here is how many of our members wish to be verbally reprimanded on this forum in front of your peers.. This is why we as moderators send Private Messages asking you to stop the horseplay..

Better yet how many would like to see their name on TV and as headlines in the new papers being horse whipped by your peer.

I'm betting that Cutler could give less than a damn about what John thinks. This is his team now.

Ack I am so tired of hearing about this. The media is trying to create drama since they cant rely on TO and Moss anymore. They think BMarsh will be their next outlet for the TO type drama.

And now it's "Elway is cutting down Cutler". This is simply not the case. It's a stupid situation.