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Wow 4 hit complete game shut out for Ubaldo! That is a pretty awesome way to start June.

Originally Posted by BroncoAV06

Wow 4 hit complete game shut out for Ubaldo! That is a pretty awesome way to start June.

Hopefully this is forshadowing the things to come. I know the Rockies are still many people's pick to win the NL West, including mine.

Last night, late in the game, Drew Goodman commented on the great pitching performance Ubaldo had, and George Frazier said that you also have to give the guy behind the plate, Morales, credit for calling a great game. If I remember correctly, in previous years, Ubaldo's best games came when someone other than Ianetta was behind the plate. Wonder if there are stats somewhere which shows who the catcher was when Ubaldo was pitching

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

Last night, late in the game, Drew Goodman commented on the great pitching performance Ubaldo had, and George Frazier said that you also have to give the guy behind the plate, Morales, credit for calling a great game. If I remember correctly, in previous years, Ubaldo's best games came when someone other than Ianetta was behind the plate. Wonder if there are stats somewhere which shows who the catcher was when Ubaldo was pitching

For some pitchers its true.

Zack Greinke's best performances always came with Miguel Olivo behind the plate, yet Olivo has never been noted as being a good defensive catcher, or a very good game-caller.

Yeah, they finally won a game.

They still suck out loud.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

For some pitchers its true.

Zack Greinke's best performances always came with Miguel Olivo behind the plate, yet Olivo has never been noted as being a good defensive catcher, or a very good game-caller.

Olivo was the catcher when Ubaldo threw his no hitter.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

For some pitchers its true.

Zack Greinke's best performances always came with Miguel Olivo behind the plate, yet Olivo has never been noted as being a good defensive catcher, or a very good game-caller.

You could say the same about Olivo and Ubaldo.

I would not be surprised to see Morales get the start the next time Ubaldo takes the mound with Ianetta getting the other starts. We can't afford to take his bat out of the lineup too often at this point.

Originally Posted by slim

Yeah, they finally won a game.

They still suck out loud.

You don't know suck.

Originally Posted by Thnikkaman

You could say the same about Olivo and Ubaldo.

I would not be surprised to see Morales get the start the next time Ubaldo takes the mound with Ianetta getting the other starts. We can't afford to take his bat out of the lineup too often at this point.

I agree - I just don't think Ubaldo and Ianetta work well together. As I posted earlier, it would be interesting if there were stats somewhere to see who caught Ulbaldo in the past. I know he worked well with Torrialba

LOS ANGELES — Baseball players are the ultimate creatures of habit. But sometimes you have to shake them out of their routine.

Sometimes. As in after you have just completed the third- worst month in franchise history.

Rockies manager Jim Tracy has tweaked his lineup, shuffled his bullpen and seen a handful of players come and go. Wednesday night, after a suggestion from hitting coach Carney Lansford , he took another stab at snapping the Rockies out of their six-week funk.

One day after several players took early batting practice, the Rockies skipped b.p. altogether. Most players arrived two hours before the series finale against the Dodgers, considerably later than normal.

"Carney came to me (Tuesday) night after the game and asked me if I had a problem with us not taking batting practice, and I said none whatsoever . . . none whatsoever," Tracy said. "We've tried everything else. I just really think this is another option, so we'll give it a shot.

"We're trying a lot of different things, believe me. If it's something we feel will help to try to jump-start us . . . let's give it a shot and see what happens."

Tracy agreed to give the players a breather out of concern that some were putting too much pressure on themselves, particularly Carlos Gonzalez and Troy Tulowitzki .

Said Tracy: "Instead of having them come out here and take swings and think about this and think about that . . . just go walk up to home plate, take the darn doughnut off the bat, find the baseball and take a whack at the darn thing."

rest of article - http://www.denverpost.com//ci_18187732

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

You don't know suck.

What the hell happend to Zack Greinke?

I thought he was poised to be a stud.

:ubaldojimenez:

Originally Posted by slim

What the hell happend to Zack Greinke?

I thought he was poised to be a stud.

:ubaldojimenez:

Well, he broke a rib going up for a rebound playing pickup basketball during Spring Training, so he's only had six starts so far this year, and I can't explain his ERA, but its way too high to go with his metrics.

1.32 K/Inn
7.5 K/BB
11.91 K/9

The two important things when you glance at what he's done so far (And I haven't actually watched him yet), it looks like the ball is getting elevated. Five Home Runs in six games, and his BABIP is .342.

Meaning, he's getting hit, even those he's striking out a lot of batters. Those hits aren't going to his fielders, they are getting into spaces. That should even out over the next 10-15 starts, though, and that ERA should come down. He's only averaging 5 2/3 innings per start, so I'd have to look at his game logs to see if there's one game really skewing his performance so far.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

Well, he broke a rib going up for a rebound playing pickup basketball during Spring Training, so he's only had six starts so far this year, and I can't explain his ERA, but its way too high to go with his metrics.

1.32 K/Inn
7.5 K/BB
11.91 K/9

The two important things when you glance at what he's done so far (And I haven't actually watched him yet), it looks like the ball is getting elevated. Five Home Runs in six games, and his BABIP is .342.

Meaning, he's getting hit, even those he's striking out a lot of batters. Those hits aren't going to his fielders, they are getting into spaces. That should even out over the next 10-15 starts, though, and that ERA should come down. He's only averaging 5 2/3 innings per start, so I'd have to look at his game logs to see if there's one game really skewing his performance so far.

But remember, BABIP is really a luck stat measuring how many balls actually get into play that end up with a runner on the bases. If he's forcing ground balls, he doesn't have much control over how his team is fielding them.

Originally Posted by Thnikkaman

But remember, BABIP is really a luck stat measuring how many balls actually get into play that end up with a runner on the bases. If he's forcing ground balls, he doesn't have much control over how his team is fielding them.

Yeah, that was kind of my point, though I see I didn't illustrate it well. That should even out over the course of the season.

Alexi Ogando has the lowest BABIP in the majors right now. He's allowed 45 hits, but seven of those hits have been Home Runs, so he's only allowed 38 hits in play in 65 2/3. Greinke, in comparison has allowed 30 hits in play in 34 innings.

Ogando's K/9 rate is less than Greinke's and his K/BB is half of Greinke's, and his ERA is half of Greinke's...leading me to believe that Greinke's ERA and BABIP are going to come way down.

BTW, Ubaldo's numbers are similar to Greinke's, though his pitched in four more games. His ERA should also come back to Earth over the course of the season. Low-mid 3s for both players by the end of the season.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

Yeah, that was kind of my point, though I see I didn't illustrate it well. That should even out over the course of the season.

Alexi Ogando has the lowest BABIP in the majors right now. He's allowed 45 hits, but seven of those hits have been Home Runs, so he's only allowed 38 hits in play in 65 2/3. Greinke, in comparison has allowed 30 hits in play in 34 innings.

Ogando's K/9 rate is less than Greinke's and his K/BB is half of Greinke's, and his ERA is half of Greinke's...leading me to believe that Greinke's ERA and BABIP are going to come way down.

BTW, Ubaldo's numbers are similar to Greinke's, though his pitched in four more games. His ERA should also come back to Earth over the course of the season. Low-mid 3s for both players by the end of the season.

I know you are a Royals fan at heart, but you should come over to purplerow.com with me. There are some really good baseball minds over there and I have learned way more about the stats side of the game there than I would have otherwise.