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    Default Possession of a Catch.

    I have a question. Why is it required that you have possession all the way to the ground when you are falling out of bounds but the play is ruled dead the second you hit the ground in bounds? That just doesn't make sense to me.

    Every time a player catches it and his knee or elbow hits the ground in bounds they call it dead right there but when they hit the ground out of bounds and the ball pops out they always call it incomplete.

    I bring this up because of the Saints player who got the 2PT conversion and had the ball pop out as he hit the ground but was still called complete. Whenever that exact same thing happens out of bounds they call it incomplete every time. That just makes no sense to me.

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    Watch it again. He catches the ball, starts to lose it, regains control and then the defender touches his knee before the ball gets kicked out. Thus, he had control and was down by contact with the ball going across the plane of the goalline.
    Last edited by GEM; 02-08-2010 at 11:10 AM. Reason: Unnecessary baiting comment.

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    i don't know the rules, but there's no doubt in my mind that that was a catch.
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    I think it's a legitmate question whether he knows the rules or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncogirl7 View Post
    I think it's a legitmate question whether he knows the rules or not.
    Uh, no its not. The rules are pretty clear about that particular situation on the goalline. If you have control of the ball and reach across the goalline its a score. There's no confusion there.

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    I'm glad the game didn't come down to that call...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
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    That's why I asked the question, so I could be clarified on the rules.
    It just seems like they always call that a catch when it's in bounds and incomplete when it's out of bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Uh, no its not. The rules are pretty clear about that particular situation on the goalline. If you have control of the ball and reach across the goalline its a score. There's no confusion there.
    I thought this was Football 101 where one could ask questions and get clarifications without being made to look stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
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    This has nothing to do with what I said in the game thread. I am asking this completely independently about how I feel about the officiating in the game.
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    Does it count if you have it stuck in your facemask like in the movies?

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    Colts would have won if the Refs got that call right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest View Post
    I have a question. Why is it required that you have possession all the way to the ground when you are falling out of bounds but the play is ruled dead the second you hit the ground in bounds? That just doesn't make sense to me.

    Every time a player catches it and his knee or elbow hits the ground in bounds they call it dead right there but when they hit the ground out of bounds and the ball pops out they always call it incomplete.

    I bring this up because of the Saints player who got the 2PT conversion and had the ball pop out as he hit the ground but was still called complete. Whenever that exact same thing happens out of bounds they call it incomplete every time. That just makes no sense to me.
    Anytime a player catches the ball but is "out of bounds" it counts as an incomplete pass. Due to the fact that he is not "in bounds" which would make it a complete pass because it was a good catch. Being out of bounds it can't count as a catch so they rule it "incomplete".

    I hope that helps ya.
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    OK folks let me jump in here and say this right now.

    FOOTBALL 10, was INDEED designed for asking questions without fear of being jumped on and for archives. A safe place to come and LEARN.

    Why do I say this, because I was the MOD that pushed for this.

    It took along time to convince the other mods and Tned to do this. It should be a safe place to go and ask questions. To learn about something when you are not sure.

    If Y'all are not able to deal with this concept, stay out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    Anytime a player catches the ball but is "out of bounds" it counts as an incomplete pass. Due to the fact that he is not "in bounds" which would make it a complete pass because it was a good catch. Being out of bounds it can't count as a catch so they rule it "incomplete".

    I hope that helps ya.
    I mean when a player catches it, taps 2 feet in bounds, then the ball pops out when he lands out of bounds. It counts as a catch until the ground knocks it out when a player lands out of bounds but they never seem to call it incomplete when a player lands in bounds and it pops out.

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