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    The Jets have given Vilma the right to shop himself. If the knee passes our medical staff, Id give em Javon and a seventh.

    Jonathan Vilma can fly away

    BY RICH CIMINI
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    Friday, February 22nd 2008, 4:00 AM
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    Jonathan Vilma's days with the Jets are numbered.
    The popular linebacker, whose star has dimmed in two seasons under Eric Mangini, has received permission from the Jets to shop himself for a potential trade, the Daily News has learned. It doesn't mean a trade is a certainty, but it's a tacit acknowledgement from both sides that Vilma and Mangini's 3-4 scheme aren't a match.
    Vilma, with one year remaining on his rookie contract, also is looking for a long-term deal. Now, with the Jets' blessing, he has the ability to speak with any team. If he agrees to a new contract, it will be up to that team and the Jets to negotiate trade compensation. The Jets could keep him, but they know they won't receive anything next year if he bolts as a free agent. A team spokeman declined comment.
    It's unclear what the Jets are seeking, but there's no doubt that Vilma's value took a hit because of major knee surgery last November. Vilma has started jogging and hopes to be running full speed in about a month, he wrote this week on his Web site. If he can show he's healthy before the April 26 draft, it will greatly enhance his stock. Sources believe the Jets could get a third-round pick, perhaps slightly higher, for a healthy Vilma.
    The Jaguars and Saints are believed to be among the potential suitors. The Saints have made no secret of their desire to acquire a middle linebacker, as they've already made an offer to former Dolphin Zach Thomas. Former Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson was recently hired by the Jaguars as an assistant, which explains their interest.
    Under Henderson, who ran a 4-3 defense, Vilma was named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2004. In 2005, he made the Pro Bowl as an alternate, looking like one of the Jets' best first-round picks in years.
    When Mangini arrived in 2006 and switched to a 3-4, Vilma's production suffered. Hiding his frustration, at least publicly, he vowed to adapt his sideline-to-sideline style into the more restrictive 3-4 scheme. But he got off to a slow start and suffered a mysterious knee injury in the seventh game, sidelining him for the remainder of the season.
    Neither Vilma nor the club explained the nature of the injury, but it was related to a pre-existing condition that required complicated surgery. In the meantime, rookie David Harris flourished in Vilma's role as the defensive signal-caller. In fact, the overall defense improved with Harris in the lineup on a full-time basis.
    Mangini was vague yesterday when discussing Vilma at the scouting combine in Indianapolis. He said Vilma is "making some good progress" in his rehab, but when asked if he still considers Vilma a starter, Mangini replied, "It's one of those things where you're going to have to evaluate it as we go and hope everything works out. But Jon's a good player. He's a smart player. He's been very productive for us and he's incredibly competitive."
    Vilma's agent, Mitch Frankel, was traveling to the combine and couldn't be reached for comment. Vilma, on his Web site, said he hasn't heard anything from the club with regard to his future.
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    Size and weight please...
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    I'd rather have Al Wilson than Vilma.

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    I think there is something to be said for the chemistry that could develop between Vilma and DJ, bring some solid leadership to the defense together. It would also serve to keep both of them here and together.

    Heck if we had them and Boss Bailey, think of the camaraderie on Defense Not sure if it's the best route, but it's an entertaining thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tubby View Post
    I'd rather have Al Wilson than Vilma.

    If Vilma is healthy, no way. In the 4-3 MLB, he is devastating. He won defensive rookie of the year, and was making plays all over the field.

    Since Coles and Vilma both want to leave the JETS, lets give em Javon and a third for Vilma and Coles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    If Vilma is healthy, no way. In the 4-3 MLB, he is devastating. He won defensive rookie of the year, and was making plays all over the field.

    Since Coles and Vilma both want to leave the JETS, lets give em Javon and a third for Vilma and Coles.
    where are we going to get the 3rd to give them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    If Vilma is healthy, no way. In the 4-3 MLB, he is devastating. He won defensive rookie of the year, and was making plays all over the field.

    Since Coles and Vilma both want to leave the JETS, lets give em Javon and a third for Vilma and Coles.
    Health is the key. If he's healthy, I'm all for Vilma coming in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30 View Post
    where are we going to get the 3rd to give them?

    'Next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHCBill View Post
    Size and weight please...
    i believe he's 6'1" 230


    like has been said health is key. everything depends on the knee. reuiniting dj and john sounds sexy in theory though.
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    Vilma
    TEAM: New York Jets
    HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6'1' / 230
    DOB: 4/16/1982
    AGE: 25
    COLLEGE: Miami (FL)
    CONTRACT INFO: 2007: $750,000, 2008: $1,097,500, 2009: Free Agent

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    Good thing about him is if we deal for him and he gets hurt... he will be a free agent so he won't cost us anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSSHOGG30 View Post
    Good thing about him is if we deal for him and he gets hurt... he will be a free agent so he won't cost us anything.
    just keep him on his current contract until he proves the knee is ok. i like it. either that or make sure the contract includes playing time incentives if we did give him a new contract.

    with how hard we seem to be pursuing a new MLB, i think vilma would be amazing value if he can stay healthy.


    (as dogfish will tell us, it seems like we have been saying that an awful lot lately)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    'Next year.
    as far as i know a pick in a future draft's value is pretty much halved, meaning it would take more than next years 3rd to get vilma. try again.
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    Not sure about his size...

    Do you think he's big enough to play MLB in the NFL?

    I know, he played it his rookie year, but won't the constant pounding from interior offensive linemen take it's toll?
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    Vilma would be perfect here. Absolutely perfect. He's a little bit small, but I worry less about that than about some other stuff, and he proved with the Jets that in a 4-3 he's plenty big enough.

    He'd make DJ into a monster again (partly by moving him back to the weak-side, partly because he knows DJ like the back of his hand) and he'd be the leader on the defense that we are sorely lacking.

    If his knee is right (and that's a biiiig if) I'd love to add Vilma.

    And thanks to his injury it shouldn't cost much. I'd sure be willing to find out.

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