Thread: DeSean Jackson

I was wondering what everyone thought about the potential for Shanny to shock the world and draft DeSean Jackson. I understand that most, if not all, would vomit if his name was called at 12, but this isn't necessarily about that. The question is...could you see Shanny drafting him?

At first I thought no way. However, as I was writing my post in another thread about landing the biggest playmaker available, his name kept popping up in my head. Although, he would likely need the typical 3 years to develop into a legit NFL receiver, he is a hellion in the open field and would be an instant upgrade as a returnman. After what Shanny saw first hand in Chicago this year, I wouldn't put it past him to take a chance at someone as explosive as Jackson. JWalk's future is in doubt in Denver and Stokley isn't young so WR can be considered a need position. I personally think we're OK at WR for now, but not everyone agrees with that. Mind you, I'm not a proponent of bringing him in, but I COULD see Shanny rolling the dice.

At the very least, it could make for interesting discussion during these, the boring days, of the offseason.

DeSean Jackson
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 172 | 40-Time: 4.45

Strengths:
An outstanding natural athlete...Excellent speed with a fantastic burst...Extremely elusive and is a terror in the open field...Great quickness and agility...Good hands and will make the tough catch...A legitimate deep threat who can stretch the field vertically...Good leaper with nice body control and ball skills...Versatile and can be utilized in a number of different ways...Decent production...Electrifying return man.

Weaknesses:
Undersized and doesn't have the bulk you look for...Inconsistent and disappeared from games at times...Is not very strong or physical...Will drop the occasional ball due to lack of focus...A sub par blocker...Can still improve as a route runner...May have some typical star receiver character concerns...Durability might be a concern.

Notes:
His brother, Byron, played professional football with the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs in 1992-93...An outstanding baseball player in high school who had Major League potential...Was hampered by a thumb injury in 2007..Scored 28 touchdowns in 36 career college games and 23% of his touches went for 20 yards or more...Awfully similar to Ted Ginn, Jr. when he was coming out last year but is more polished as a wideout and an even better return man..One of the most dynamic offensive and special teams weapons in this draft...He may never be a true #1 target in the NFL but he's the type of elite playmaker who is sure to keep defenses awake at night

i'm already on record saying we could very well take him. . . .

i would indeed be one of the pukers you speak of. how hard did we all laugh when the dolphins selected ginn? how hard will the rest of the league laugh and how hard will we cry if we end up taking a 175 lb KR who may or may not become an effective receiver, and who doesn't fit our style of offense (in that he doesn't block well at all).

i think i would take the time to write shanny an angry letter. and i've never written a letter to anyone ever.

Not my first choice but we could really use him on ST's. Plus I want to add a speedster opposite of B-Marsh.

I don't personally think Ginn was that awful of a pick. I saw at least 2 return TDs called back due to penalty and my buddy who is a fins fan tells me he has had a number of very solid returns which the O could not take advantage of. Time will tell with him, but it's nice to start on the 40 from time to time.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

I don't personally think Ginn was that awful of a pick. I saw at least 2 return TDs called back due to penalty and my buddy who is a fins fan tells me he has had a number of very solid returns which the O could not take advantage of. Time will tell with him, but it's nice to start on the 40 from time to time.

yea, but how many teams start on the 40 from time to time WITHOUT spending a top twelve pick to do it?

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

DeSean Jackson
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 172 | 40-Time: 4.45

Strengths:
An outstanding natural athlete...Excellent speed with a fantastic burst...Extremely elusive and is a terror in the open field...Great quickness and agility...Good hands and will make the tough catch...A legitimate deep threat who can stretch the field vertically...Good leaper with nice body control and ball skills...Versatile and can be utilized in a number of different ways...Decent production...Electrifying return man.

Weaknesses:
Undersized and doesn't have the bulk you look for...Inconsistent and disappeared from games at times...Is not very strong or physical...Will drop the occasional ball due to lack of focus...A sub par blocker...Can still improve as a route runner...May have some typical star receiver character concerns...Durability might be a concern.

Notes:
His brother, Byron, played professional football with the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs in 1992-93...An outstanding baseball player in high school who had Major League potential...Was hampered by a thumb injury in 2007..Scored 28 touchdowns in 36 career college games and 23% of his touches went for 20 yards or more...Awfully similar to Ted Ginn, Jr. when he was coming out last year but is more polished as a wideout and an even better return man..One of the most dynamic offensive and special teams weapons in this draft...He may never be a true #1 target in the NFL but he's the type of elite playmaker who is sure to keep defenses awake at night

Not a chance.

If Devin Hester was placed back into the draft...you don't think he'd go top 10? My guess is he'd go #1 overall. THAT is why Miami went after Ginn so early...and Ginn should be a better WR when it's all said and done.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

If Devin Hester was placed back into the draft...you don't think he'd go top 10? My guess is he'd go #1 overall. THAT is why Miami went after Ginn so early...and Ginn should be a better WR when it's all said and done.

devin hester is absolutely unique-- he is the best returner to ever play the game of football, end of story-- no one else even deserves to be compared to him. . . .


statistically, ginn wasn't a better returner than aundrae allison or steve breaston. . .




honestly, go back and read that scouting report again. . . . before the devin hester phenomenon, this guy was roscoe parrish, and got drafted where he belonged. . . in the 2nd or 3rd round. . . .

Maybe not an OT like we need, or a Linebacker or Defensive lineman, but he would give a spark to our special teams play. With Jackson we get a great return man, something the Broncos have lacked for years. We also get a deep threat opposite of Marshall. This could help Jay's progress too, allowing some of those deep throws we as fans have been craving. Remember that 72 yard bomb 2 years ago at Arizona, Jay to Javon? I want that again.

May not be the best value at #12, but I wouldn't throw my can of chew at the TV (Willie Middlebrooks) if his name was called for the Broncos.

Here are some videos I found while browsing youtube, dude looks like he could help out our ST immediately (I'd hope at least). Music is terrible for the first video, just a warning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg5EQ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXSz...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7_5S...eature=related

Enjoy!

more than anything, i think it's just an indictment of how truly terrible our ST has been that people would even consider a return specialist with the potential for the occasional big play from the slot as a legitimate option at #12. . . . you just don't need to spend 1st round picks to get ST help, and no good team drafts that way-- when was the last time indy, san diego or new england spent a high 1st rounder on a part-time player/return specialist? last year, the second-best returner in the league was an undrafted quarterback from kent state. . . .


i have said many times, and will continue to say, that this team will never be any kind of serious contender until we get tougher and more physical, particularly in the trenches. . . if we spend #12 overall on a 170 pound sissy, we fully deserve to get two more 40 point bitch-slappings from san diego and finish 7-9 again. . . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

more than anything, i think it's just an indictment of how truly terrible our ST has been that people would even consider a return specialist with the potential for the occasional big play from the slot as a legitimate option at #12. . . . you just don't need to spend 1st round picks to get ST help, and no good team drafts that way-- when was the last time indy, san diego or new england spent a high 1st rounder on a part-time player/return specialist? last year, the second-best returner in the league was an undrafted quarterback from kent state. . . .


i have said many times, and will continue to say, that this team will never be any kind of serious contender until we get tougher and more physical, particularly in the trenches. . . if we spend #12 overall on a 170 pound sissy, we fully deserve to get two more 40 point bitch-slappings from san diego and finish 7-9 again. . . .

Not a bad point.

dog, i can't think of anything right now that i agree more with than what you just wrote. and that's why i would be livid if we took him at 12.

alright, i think this thing is already dead, but i've just gotta make sure. . . .


doing a bit of reading on jackson, i discovered an intersting factoid-- this guy doesn't even have any experience as a kick returner. . . he only returned punts in college. . . i'll concede the point that he has the skill set to be a damn fine kick returner without argument, but this year he returned a grand total of two kicks for 38 yards (19.0 average). . . .


soooo, if we're going to take a returner with the #12 pick, why not take one who returned 23 kicks for 614 yards (26.7 average) this past year? one who, coincidentally, also has the chance to be one of the best running backs in the NFL. . . .


seriously, do you want to spend #12 on this pathetic twig:




or this hoss:







before you answer, let me remind you, because i don't want to leave it out, that jackson was also an explosive punt returner in college, while stewart wasn't. . . . let me also remind you that glenn martinez had a higher punt return average than ted ginn, and scored just as many touchdowns. . .

and nobody even mention travis busted down henry, who should consider himself damn lucky that he's going to get another year here. . . .


for even more fun, let's compare jackson's recieving stats from the past year against reshard mendenhall's. . .

mendenhall - 34-318 (9.4 average), 2 TDs

jackson - 65-762 (11.7 average), 6 TDs



this bigtime playmaker barely doubled the recieving production of one of the top running back prospects! of course, mendenhall did redeem himself by rushing for 1,681 yards and 17 touchdowns. . . .



honestly, aside from a quarterback you'd be hard pressed to name a projected 1st rounder who i'd consider a worse pick than jackson-- of course, we'll probably consider him "too good to pass on". . . .