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From what I've heard and this is a woody paige idea. That all went back to Joe Ellis who still was angry at mike. Joe also wouldn't let John fire Vance after the first year and higher Mike shanahan.

Or how about McDaniel's first draft. How about shady for moreno. And orakpo for Ayers. Then factor in the first that we traded the following year to get that second round corner who never ended up...

Bradley Chubb got a hundred million dollars at immediately headed to IR. He's another tale of a guy who has a lead playing ability but is continually let down by his body.. I just went back and...

I'm sorry I've been through it. I've had friends that have been through it. I just pray that you're vindicated. it took about 4 years for me to get vindicated thankfully I didn't go through the stuff...

Welcome back man!

Again my question is what could have been had he not encountered mcdouche? Everybody in the league thought that Josh was an idiot for trading Cutler after he had thrown for 4500 yards in his 3rd...

Touche,. What about his brother?............bro of slow.......sorry...... son of bum would be disappointed in that

Bob freaking Slowik. Here's another guy that's a great example of the levels that there are in the league. He was a great defensive backs coach but not a coordinator and there are coordinators that...

Dude a third year player threw for the fourth most yards of any quarterback in any season in Broncos history. The only guy that ever threw for more than him in a season was Manning. Saying he was...

As a quick follow-up I thought this. But he threw for $4,500 yards as a third year player. He never came within 500 yards of that number the rest of his career. He loved bates. He loved shanahan. And...

Well I feel like the impact of bad coaching and the relationship with McDaniels may have led to that. So getting to the point where you're like damn I'm tired of getting hit in the mouth every time I...

Man Browning and Bonitto really could thrive in this system. We just have to keep guys healthy. I also expect a pretty substantial jump from Cooper this year if you can stay healthy. The big thing...

I still wonder what could have been with Cutler though. He obviously was intelligent having played at vanderbilt. He was engaged when he was playing for Shanahan and really seemed to have a close...

Without a doubt he's deserving especially when you think about some of the other people that are in. One of the great offensive minds in the history of the league. His big downfall was too much...

I just want to say that I was very disappointed to see wave and h a w g battling here earlier. I'm glad that cooler heads prevailed.

It can work. But it depends on what the root causes. Mine wasn't a lack of acid and it just made mine worse. Probably also staying up late at night eating hot wings didn't help.

I actually really like the way that mcglinchey has trended. Last year when completely healthy he only gave up one sack and his pass blocking was much better than it had been to this point in his...

It's really hard to evaluate VJ as a defensive coordinator. As much as I hated him as the broncos head coach I'm willing to give him a shot. It's also time for a Philips style defense to regain...

I get the fact that everyone's a little bit skeptical at this point. But asking a guy that's almost top 20 in all time wins and who has orchestrated a Super Bowl winning team to prove himself seems a...

All I'm going to say on this topic is that keeping it to performance rather than personality is valid. But there has been a ton of ad hominem both on this board and in the National media that's...

The more I embrace this the more it makes me feel like the Shanahan hire.

I saw somewhere that Payton had said that he wasn't going to poach New Orleans staff. He loves Dennis Allen and he has a lot of respect for the saints

The part of it right. I was listening to 10.

I was born in 1976 King. Bicentennial baby

It's not but I think it showed a lot from Sean that he was willing to interview him. Football operations and coaching structure could learn a lot from the traditional space. We saw it play out during...