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Yea but these shoulder workouts are solid. They are the pitcher workouts for the small muscles. I use them for my stepson who's a young qb. Just nice to have.

By the way when I say Cardinals I'm meaning baseball.

For some reason my phone isn't refreshing and showing your pm. I'm at work so if it does I will send email. If it doesn't I'll send when I get home. Didn't want you to think I left ya hangn.

He's not a player just put it like that. ;)

It's some plyo's, speed stuff, some weight training, and I have a friend in the cardinals organization so I got all their shoulder workouts.

Hey if you pm me your email I can send you some stuff we use at college.