I don't swear around my son or around people that are close to me that it bothers, but as far as I'm concerned, no one here is my son or someone that I'm close to.
SR...Now you and I go back a ways but I am not sure I can agree with you
entirely about all this.Yes everyone gets the chance to voice their
opinions,but are you trying to tell us that people will leave if they are not allowed to use the F word? Am I understanding this right?:confused:
You do realize that that word can and could be used in different ways.As in describing something or someone.Now I for one wouldnt like it if someone disagreed with me and told me to shut the F up.
Where do you draw the lline and how do you determine when the word is ok to use and not ok to use.
Maybe I am misunderstanding you but are you wanting people to be able to
post the F word on here?
spoken like a proud parent! :salute:
I don't see anything wrong with ass and crap either. I don't post ass much however. I thought the filter would catch it :)
Maybe we should have a forum for nothing but profanity, that way when members get the uncontrollable urge they can type out a bunch of curse words then get out. We could call it the trailer park forum :D
That would be pretty funny, like Robin Williams wife in that one movie who had turrets. I forget the name of the movie but it was pretty funny, she would just yell out a bunch of profanity at the worst possible times.
:lol: I'm all for a cussing forum to let off steam.
Trailertrash FTW :salute:
But the members here are someone else's son and someone cares about them regardless if you do or not. That is the point, it is a public forum not just about you and who you care about. Are you saying no one else's kids should be given the same respect as you want your kids to have?
BTW, I'm still waiting for this imaginary law that you so swear by.
Jesus Christ...I can't post in this thread with people like you.
K, We've been talking about language for a while now.
Lets focus on the nudity part of things. :salute:
K I have a question now:
I use this sig on another forum:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...roncos200x.gif
I posted the link because I dont know if its apropriate for this forum or not.
I, myself like the sig but was wondering if it would be acceptable to use on this site?
So click on the link and lets see if I can use that sig or not. :salute:
I dont know if its bad or not. :lol:
While I am trying to reserve my opinions, because I feel other people's opinions far more important than mine for the benefit of the community, I will chime in on this.
That is probably a problem because of the depiction of a sexual act. Legally, it is probably borderline, in all reality. The famouse sponge/car wash scene in desperate housewives is almost as bad, but because of where her hand is and the implied sexual act, I personally want no part of it when my name is on the domain registration and server lease.
Good input in here. Keep it coming.
JC4MVP send a PM to TXBRONC and request the board advisors to give their input on the sig.
The law's very from State to State but every State has a public conduct ordinance that covers profanity and nudity in public establishments. The laws aren't there to take away anyone's freedom, they are there to protect the freedom of those who don't want themselves or there children subject to unapropiate behavior. The law that says one can't be intoxicated in public is part of the public conduct ordinance.
I don't swear by the law, even if there wasn't a law, it wouldn't change my opinion about using profanity while in the presence of minors. For me its a moral issue, why would I subject someone else's children to something I don't want my kids subject too?
:lol: Yea I wont use that as my sig because no matter what there will always be some people upset. Thats why I posted the link incase you didn't want to see it then you didn't have to view it. I was trying to be nice. :salute:
I'll try to find a clean sig to use where the girl is washing dishes or baking cookies instead of the sick perverted one that I had. :salute:
This is a great post... I know it was from 8 pages ago, but I wanted to bring this back up.
Whatever ends up being decided regarding the rules, keep in mind that eventually need to be enforced. I'm not saying that it should be strict or not very strict or anything... but that anything that can be an offense can eventually be a bannable offense.
Where did I refer to a law on the Internet? My comment about the law was directed towards your comments about what your wife said in the mall.
However, I believe the FCC has rules about nudity and profanity that also cover the Internet. Tned would be the one to answer this one. I'm sure he has looked into it further then I beings he owns the domain name.
The point is irrelevant anyways, Tned is not going to allaw nudity & serious profanity here if minors can view these boards, even if there isn't a law regarding the Internet.
I'm sure he respects your opinion but his name is on the dotted line. I trust the advisory board but even if they voted to allow everything under the sun he still has to answer for everything that goes on here ;)
If there is no consequences for members offenses then there is nothing to stop anyone from repeating the offense.
All that will lead to is more work by the mods, continually editing the same members post's over and over.
Lets not forget the mods work for free. IMO we need to make the rules as clear as possible for both the members and mods. Opinions very and when your dealing with gray area people could feel there is favoritism when there post gets edited and they see another they perceive to be the same get left alone.
Both you and LT make a great point. If there is a rule of no profanity then it needs to be enforced as does all ruled. Editing a post by a mod does not enforce anything. Its not even a slap on the hand. I could see editing it once, then giving a warning. Editing it twice then a day ban...and so on. There is no point to continuesly edit posts if there is no follow up punishment.
I havent read the thread so if I repeat something, please excuse me.
personally I think it is hopeless to create a "family friendly" ideal.
let the people act as they normally do in real life with the mild swearing and stuff.
In real life we dont attack eachother personally and that is the real problem. That and of course nude pics.
I am a former member of broncosfreak and there they tried to maintain that family friendly stuff, and the whole issue is almost deemed to fail as mods and people have different opinions to what is FF. And if one mod is more constrained or conservative than others, eventually it creates a huge difference of opinion not to say people will feel mistreated.
Thus, when you do start banning, the parameters have been set, and to maintain some sort of justice you will eventually have to ban or warn members set by the least standards you choose. That usually means that it will only get stricter and stricter which in the end destroys the board, at least to me and a lot of others.
I had nearly left broncosfreak before this new things happened because of what I said earlier. The fun went astray, as well as cool members became banned one after another.
let the members moderate themselves as much as possible is my suggestion and tell people to get a thick skin. Some time or another almost every member will have a meltdown anyway, but that is just normal. We usually make up ourselves in the end.
But if you do choose to ban members, I think it is imperative to have some sort of thread where others get to see that the member is banned, with a little explanation to why.
Believe it or not, that's considerably more hardline than I would've suggested. lol.
As language is a more minor offense, IMO... having to edit here and there is not a big deal. The only time I'd ban someone after just a few offenses was if it was obvious they were doing it despite just being previously warned... kinda just to spite the mod... catch what I mean?
Then if it becomes obvious that it's repetitive, and you're warning that member on a somewhat regular basis... then you tell them they need a day off to think about if they want to post withing the guidelines of the forums.
yeah really. it is so confusing when somebody is banned and nobody knows why. Then as you say they get pissy, as well as one get a lot of others asking why.
Personally, I used to have a principle that i shouldnt ignore anybody. When I started doing that I never looked back. Saved a lot of aggravation that way, as well as a lot of threads got a lot easier to read.
The ignore button is a great thing. I only wish more people would use it when they get into an online fight with another. It is so annoying to see a thread with an interesting title and lots of posts only to discover it is full of somebody flaming and arguing. The persons who really suffers are all those who are not into the arguments.
I will say that if it was up to me and I was the leader of some kind of message board, I wouldnt give a rats ass about swearing.... even the f word. People use that all the time in RL so why be double standard. There are other things that are a lot more severe to the structure of a board.
I just joined. I respect that I don't have as much clout as most of the members who have been here since the inception, but banning members for using curse words, which I imagine are already censored is a little much.
No offense to anyone, but this IS a football forum. They are words. I understand if someone insults someone, but if I drop a random S-Bomb, or even an F-Bomb, I don't think I should get a ban, no matter the circumstances, unless it is insulting someone.
Your voice is just as important as anyone else here, save Tned as 'owner'. Fortunately for everyone, he's willing to defer almost all that power.
Again... I only think someone should be banned for it if they just flat out won't listen when they're asked to stop breaking the rules.
Any rule that's in place has to be enforced somehow. Especially if it's being broken repeatedly. If you read my post, I'm in no way saying someone should be permabanned for dropping their first Fbomb.
If you don't think there should be a rule against language... that's different... but there's no point in saying... here's the rule, but nothing will happen if you break it as much as you'd like.