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  1. I do sincerely wish you luck.

    Where the heck are you going?
  2. So, near St Louis?
  3. I'm kind of in limbo: partially in Missouri, Illinois, and Kentucky all at once.
  4. Hitchens was great!

    I hated him too!!! But I loved him. He was an interesting guy. Very provocative. Could come off as an *******. I rarely agreed with him. However, he made me think of the strongest arguments to hone against his.

    I would have loved to have a few beers with him. Hopefully we could have avoided coming to blows by the end of the night.

    Where are you at these days?
  5. Look man, I really respect you. I actually care what you think about me; that's more than what I can say about most people. So I wasn't trying to shit on you, or offend anyone. To your point, it's a common critique; it was meant more along the lines of a "well that actor isn't that good because he mostly plays himself in each role," 'this is the basic criticism type of way. Looking back at it now, it probably wasn't the best way to crack a joke. And while I think an occasional P and R comment is okay because that's how the world kind of operates, not the greatest idea. That criticism of M.T. isn't as benign as the classic "Al Gore's internet," or "NEW-CLEEAR," reference to President Bush.

    Regarding Hitchens, I am sure that he wrote that book. I am only familiar with the studies and scholarship regarding the care M.T. provided. For reference, I only watch stuff (trash) like Cable News when something awful has happened or election night. I'm a boring ass C-SPAN guy. I still read newspapers and try to be eclectic. I actually was kind of hurt about the Hitchens remark until i better understood the context. Now I get it that it wasn't a dig. To be honest, I detest Hitchens and while this won't be a nice thing to say, I think the world is better off without him, albeit I wished he hadn't gone out the way that he did. He was a spiteful, hateful, arrogant, elitist little creature of a man and he hated people with differing opinions than his. I try to steer away from iconoclasts, and that's what I consider him to be. Even if they are really smart. I put him in the Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, cult of personality group.
  6. Thank you for your apology and deleting the post. I tried to temper my response with some humor ("face the whirlwind", "go ham"), but it didn't translate.

    Hitchens literally wrote the book on Mother Teresa criticism. Every argument you find today was first made by Hitchens. Of course, as a devout atheist, he had an ax to grind. It was not a good faith attempt. Now a whole host of others carry on the arguments that he first proposed.

    Take care dude. I wasn't all that upset, but did want to stick up for Mother Teresa, and clearly couldn't do that in Broncos Talk.
  7. I've never read Hitchens; I thought he was a bully and a mean spirited person. Whatever argument he made I could probably find from a less hateful source. I'm sure he had a lot to say about M.T.; I'm also sure the odds of me ever reading his arguments about her are only slightly greater than zero. It's like Jordan Peterson: most of what he says is outside his speciality and demonstrably false, but sometimes he's right or has a point. Even then, it's easy to find a better source of the argument, especially in these polarized times. But I digress.

    It was just an off-color joke and response to something Jaded said. If you're referring to my gripes with J-Ham we could both go through a riveting compare-and-contrast but that's not really worth the energy. I'm sure we could do the exact same thing with whatever comparison about whatever posts I took issue with, too. I'd be willing bet that the comps wouldn't favor you, but you'd be willing to bet otherwise, so it'd be fruitless. I sure hope you're not referencing the poster who was leaving vile MHS's and attacking people's families, though. Because then I'd have to go ham. I'm sincerely sorry you were offended; I'll delete the post.
  8. What you said is a complete misunderstanding and slander of Mother Teresa's work.

    I loved Christopher Hitchens although disagreeing with him on much or most of his work. Great, provocative, thinker. But he was way off-base on Mother Teresa and her mission.

    It's okay. The greatest prophets are never understood in their own time. God bless.

    But get that shit out of BroncosTalk if you're going to complain about others doing it.
  9. What I said was based in fact and is well documented, so....gratz on the win and I still love you. <3
  10. I was doing fine until I saw your slander of Mother Teresa! Good thing the Broncos won today or I'd go ham.
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