Worst Mock Draft Ever

[roomemp]

Its amazing how dumb some sites are :mad:

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=763411

[atwater27]

12. Denver (7-9)
The Pick: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma*
The buzz: The Broncos secondary lacks talent and depth. Denver needs to address this unit early and often this April.
HA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!
HAAA!
www.draftinsiders.com These guys even sell a draft guide. Don't buy it. They are asstards.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Reggie Smith is an awesome talent... He will be a very good safety in the NFL. His stock will soar after the combine... I don't think this is an out of the question pick. Smith is up there with Morgan, Phillips, and Castille.

[atwater27]

Reggie Smith is an awesome talent... He will be a very good safety in the NFL. His stock will soar after the combine... I don't think this is an out of the question pick. Smith is up there with Morgan, Phillips, and Castille.

No offense, but it would be a retarded pick at 12 overall.

[tubby]

No offense, but it would be a retarded pick at 12 overall.

Not if he is a stud Saftey.

[MOtorboat]

Rivals should stick to college recruiting.

[mclark]

Its amazing how dumb some sites are :mad:

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=763411

We're going to take

12. Denver (7-9)
The Pick: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma*
The buzz: The Broncos secondary lacks talent and depth. Denver needs to address this unit early and often this April.

When hell freezes over.

Then again, of course, I may be wrong about Global Warming too.

Not a name I've even been considering. I'll have to think about it.

[atwater27]

With the talent available in this draft at the top 20 level, if we can't get one of the top 2 DT's, O-lineman or Linebacker, then we pick Kenny Phillips. If we can't get any of the above, perhaps this fella you 2 are high on.
Otherwise, he is a reach, and just another 1st round mistake Denver is so good at making.

[mclark]

Reggie Smith, Oklahoma (12/1)
Height: 6-1. Weight: 198.
40 Time: 4.47.
Projected Round: Top 20 Pick.
Reggie Smith has declared for the 2008 NFL Draft.

OK... forget about waiting until next year. Smith is having a great 2007 campaign. His versatility can only increase his draft stock; he can play corner and safety.

Smith doubles as a return specialist and triples as a potential free safety. Had a fumble returned for a touchdown against Miami this year.

[BOSSHOGG30]

For you that think this is stupid... You haven't seen Smith play much.... Everyone is sold on Phillips being that top safety... but he has some guys breathing down his neck... Smith is one of them. Very good player.

[mclark]

Here's the rivals.com Jan 18 update:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=749667

1. Miami (1-15)
The Pick: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
The buzz: The Dolphins begin the Parcells era with a 'winner' at the game's most important position.
2. St. Louis (3-13)
The Pick: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
The buzz: Dorsey is a dominant inside force that is much needed along the Rams front four.
x - 3. Atlanta (4-12)
The Pick: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas*
The buzz: The Falcons must rebuild, especially at QB, but McFadden would be too good to pass on here.
x - 4. Oakland (4-12)
The Pick: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
The buzz: Al Davis might continue the old Raider lineage with this selection.
x - 5. Kansas City (4-12)
The Pick: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
The buzz: The Chiefs are a total offensive disaster this season, and the quarterback spot is their highest priority.
6. N.Y. Jets (4-12)
The Pick: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
The buzz: The Jets want to land a blue-chip offensive lineman, and Long is a fine bookend tackle.
7. New England (From San Francisco (5-11))
The Pick: Kenny Phillips, FS, Miami*
The buzz: The Patriots are looking for another impact defender in their changing secondary.
8. Baltimore (5-11)
The Pick: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
The buzz: The Ravens want one of the top two quarterbacks, but may have to draft into other deep areas of this class.
9. Cincinnati (7-9)
The Pick: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State*
The buzz: The Bengals defense gives up too many big plays and needs a force off the edge.
10. New Orleans (7-9)
The Pick: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma*
The buzz: The Saints defense gets smoked weekly, and Smith is one of the elite cornerbacks.
11. Buffalo (7-9)
The Pick: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
The buzz: The Bills wants more playmakers, especially on the inside.
12. Denver (7-9)
The Pick: Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.*
The buzz: The Broncos offensive line must improve for QB Jay Cutler to take the next step as an NFL starter.

[HolyDiver]

For you that think this is stupid... You haven't seen Smith play much.... Everyone is sold on Phillips being that top safety... but he has some guys breathing down his neck... Smith is one of them. Very good player.

I would not have a problem drafting this guy...............but how about at 18-20.......and not with the 12th overall pick?

[CoachChaz]

Assuming we find a trade partner.

[mclark]

Global Warming Update: Hell might be freezing over! (It sure has been a cold winter. It even snowed in South Africa this year.)

[lex]

Was Champ in a plane crash? Is Bly ok? Just trying to make sense out of this pick. What an imbecile.

[CoachChaz]

Smith is projected to play FS in the NFL. That's the only thing I can figure he was thinking

[BOSSHOGG30]

I doubt we take him that high myself, but I wouldn't call it the worst draft ever... that type of title suggest that Smith isn't worthy of a 1st round pick or that he isn't a top safety in the draft.

Look at him like Donte Whitner... Everyone thought the Bills jumped up to high to pick that guy up, but he is a stud.

[lex]

I doubt we take him that high myself, but I wouldn't call it the worst draft ever... that type of title suggest that Smith isn't worthy of a 1st round pick or that he isn't a top safety in the draft.

Look at him like Donte Whitner... Everyone thought the Bills jumped up to high to pick that guy up, but he is a stud.

Taking him at 12 is dumb.

[MHCBill]

Drafting Chad Henne would make it the worst mock draft ever.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Taking him at 12 is dumb.

Not if he is the best safety in the draft.... How do you know?

Picking Ashley Lelie over Ed Reed is dumb, but we did it... so how do you know that taking Smith at 12 over whoever is dumb? There is no guarantees in football.

[CoachChaz]

I wouldn't be too disappointed if we took Smith, but I prefer to look at other areas of need in the first.

[lex]

Not if he is the best safety in the draft.... How do you know?

Picking Ashley Lelie over Ed Reed is dumb, but we did it... so how do you know that taking Smith at 12 over whoever is dumb? There is no guarantees in football.

What are you talking about? I wanted us to take Ed Reed and not Lelie. Taking him at 12 would be dumb.

[BigDaddyBronco]

I wouldn't be too disappointed if we took Smith, but I prefer to look at other areas of need in the first.

I'm just hoping that either Dorsey or Ellis is pulled over with a dead hooker in their trunk so they fall to us at #12. Of course it's a friends car. :D

[topscribe]

After the Giants showed demonstrably what a difference a strong D-line can
make, even with an "ordinary" (as Moss put it) secondary, why would the
Broncos want to draft anybody for the secondary first, when they are so
deficient at DT? :whoknows:

-----

[CoachChaz]

I'm just hoping that either Dorsey or Ellis is pulled over with a dead hooker in their trunk so they fall to us at #12. Of course it's a friends car. :D

If they lived in Texas, we could probably do something about that.

[lex]

I'm just hoping that either Dorsey or Ellis is pulled over with a dead hooker in their trunk so they fall to us at #12. Of course it's a friends car. :D

...that Reggie Bush paid for with money someone gave him.

[atwater27]

Not if he is the best safety in the draft.... How do you know?

Picking Ashley Lelie over Ed Reed is dumb, but we did it... so how do you know that taking Smith at 12 over whoever is dumb? There is no guarantees in football.

Just like there is no guarantee he is the best safety in the draft.

[mclark]

Was Champ in a plane crash? Is Bly ok? Just trying to make sense out of this pick. What an imbecile.

They have Smith a top 12 pick at safety, not cornerback.

[mclark]

I doubt we take him that high myself, but I wouldn't call it the worst draft ever... that type of title suggest that Smith isn't worthy of a 1st round pick or that he isn't a top safety in the draft.

Look at him like Donte Whitner... Everyone thought the Bills jumped up to high to pick that guy up, but he is a stud.

Whitner is one of those guys who started as a top second round pick and just kept climbing and climbing until he was a top-12 pick. Smith may be that guy this year.

My shock was in seeing him listed as a cornerback -- but we all know we do need upgrades at safety. Phillips, Clady, Connor, Smith....we still have a lot of possibilities, that will be clarified by free agency maybe.

[BOSSHOGG30]

That's the thing... I don't get why it is ok if we pick Kenny Phillips at 12, but it isn't ok to pick Smith or Morgan. If we are going to pick a safety with pick 12, lets get the guy that we feel is the better safety... just because some people think Phillips is the better safety doesn't mean he is.

[Lonestar]

Not if he is the best safety in the draft.... How do you know?

Picking Ashley Lelie over Ed Reed is dumb, but we did it... so how do you know that taking Smith at 12 over whoever is dumb? There is no guarantees in football.

Well with mikey making the call DAFT day is always full of "who the hell is that" response from commentators..

I would have a problem with smith at 6-1 197 playing safety. Just think we need someone more in the 210+ range..

Putting 13 or more pounds on him might not be a good thing or even possible.. Unless mikey plans on playing him at FS the roaming back even then I'm not all that sure 4.47 is fast enough back there.

Perhaps later in the draft but there have to be better athletes available here if we can't trade down..

[BOSSHOGG30]

Well with mikey making the call DAFT day is always full of "who the hell is that" response from commentators..

I would have a problem with smith at 6-1 197 playing safety. Just think we need someone more in the 210+ range..

Putting 13 or more pounds on him might not be a good thing or even possible.. Unless mikey plans on playing him at FS the roaming back even then I'm not all that sure 4.47 is fast enough back there.

Perhaps later in the draft but there have to be better athletes available here if we can't trade down..

Smith has the frame to add more weight... you have to remember these are basically kids coming out their junior year.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Scheffler put on 20 pounds in one offseason.

[Lonestar]

Scheffler put on 20 pounds in one offseason.

but has the frame to handle it.

Hey I know what I want, that would be a 215-225+ safety, about 6-0 to 6-2 whose hits will make everyone forget about atwater.. 4.4 speed if they can work it out..

[G_Money]

After the Giants showed demonstrably what a difference a strong D-line can
make, even with an "ordinary" (as Moss put it) secondary, why would the
Broncos want to draft anybody for the secondary first, when they are so
deficient at DT? :whoknows:-----

Because the 3rd best DT might be what's left on the board at #12, and the 3rd best DT might not be better than the 7th best DT.

In fact, the 3rd best DT might be out of the league in 3 years.

OTOH, you might get a multiple Pro Bowler out of the #12 pick if you went with a different position.

Just having a need at DT doesn't mean it's the best pick on the board when you're on the clock.

If you could add Steve Atwater to the team, would you pick Gerard Warren instead? It's not like safety isn't a need position as well.

I personally am not attached to adding a specific position. If it were me I'd add a LB, but my two favorites didn't put their names in for the draft. Still, this is a draft in which we have options. We have multiple needs at some positions of draft depth. If we don't add a DT with the #12 pick we might still add a very good on in the 2nd or later. Harrison has potenial, Moore has potential, somebody could locate Okam's 'nads and give them back to him...anything is possible at a DL position. It's a position of late maturation.

Very few guys learn how to be effective RBs after being in the league for 3 or 4 years. If you haven't been effective by then at that position, you are usually gone. Defensive linemen routinely come into their own in their mid-to-late 20s, and rarely make an impact as rookies.

If I was looking to make an immediate impact on D, the position I would not draft would be DL. Ngata did work well for Ray Lewis, but that's partly because his job consisted of, "Hold that guy right there and don't let him get in my way."

Without Ellis or Dorsey, I don't see the DT position being one I want to address with the #12 pick - not at all.

LB, S or OT are all more worthwhile to me at that point.

As for Smith, I don't see him going that early but some guys just soar in the draft. Phillips did not have a great year and the longer the offseason goes on the more reasons people are gonna find to shift the safety leaderboard around. It'd be interesting to be able to trade back and still get Phillips should he fall, wouldn't it...?

~G

[G_Money]

but has the frame to handle it.

Hey I know what I want, that would be a 215-225+ safety, about 6-0 to 6-2 whose hits will make everyone forget about atwater.. 4.4 speed if they can work it out..

His name is Wesley Woodyard, and he played LB for Kentucky because they needed him to move off of safety and help them out.

~G

[Lonestar]

His name is Wesley Woodyard, and he played LB for Kentucky because they needed him to move off of safety and help them out.

~G

If gold could cover and make an open field tackle head on, he'd be a good choice but then we can't have every thing can we?

[Lonestar]

His name is Wesley Woodyard, and he played LB for Kentucky because they needed him to move off of safety and help them out.

~G

where will he go?

[BOSSHOGG30]

Woodyard is an interesting prospect... but he reminds me of another Sam Brandon

[G_Money]

Seriously, it all depends on the combine. I think he's a 3rd-4th rounder, but it all depends on whether people believe he can be a LB in the pros or if he's a conversion project to SS.

I think he could be the best safety in this draft. He's fast as hell for being a bigger safety and not a corner/safety tweener (mid 4.4s though I haven't seen him play safety because he's been the Will at KY for his career), hits like a Mack truck, is a good tackler, can cover backs and TEs with relative ease...

He either needs to gain 20 pounds to play the weak-side in the pros, though (while keeping his speed) or he needs to move to SS. I'd love to see him moved. He's smart, he's a leader, he's eminently coachable, but he gets eaten up sometimes near the LOS because he's not big enough to fight through the trash. Get him in space, in the open field, and he's incredible. I can't say enough good things about what he does during backside pursuit, blitzes, and in the open field.

Seriously, I'd take him in the 4th if he was there and jump for joy. Some guys called Brandon Marshall a coupla years ago as a monster in the making. Woodyard is that kind of guy for me. They call him a tweener, but I don't think so. I think he's always been a SS playing LB and being incredibly productive. Move him back to his natural spot and see what happens.

If we drafted Woodyard I'd bribe Lynch to come back and teach him. One year under Lynch would do Woodyard an immense amount of good.

Hopefully whatever we do Shanny at least acknowledges safety as a position of some need, though - last year the FO was bragging about how there was no need whatsoever for a safety.

~G

[MHCBill]

Sam Brandon did not have 4.4 speed.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Sam Brandon did not have 4.4 speed.

Does Woodyard?

[CoachChaz]

Moving back is a big question mark for me. Would I rather take a chance on a good player late in the first and a good player late in the 2nd or just take a potential Pro-Bowler at the 12 spot and get the BPA at the rest of the spots. Adding draft picks doesn't always equate to adding talent. For the same reasons people don't want a Florida WR or a Cal RB...I DO want a Miami safety. Phillips can do it all and I have no doubt he will be a stud at the next level.

[lex]

Does Woodyard?

Its not unthinkable that he can run in the 4.4s. I think I see his estimated 40 being high 4.4s. or low 4.5s. And Im also an advocate of Woodyard. He can also play linebacker if thats what they need him to do.

[CoachChaz]

Does Woodyard?

6'1", 219...4.43

[G_Money]

Woodyard is an interesting prospect... but he reminds me of another Sam Brandon

He's bigger and faster than Brandon - and meaner too, I'd say. He's got at least 15 pounds on what Sam had coming out of college, Sam was a WR conversion. Woodyard already knows how to hit people. ;)

I can see the concern from a conversion aspect. You never know how a guy is gonna transition to a position he hasn't played at the highest level.

But IMO Woodyard does more than a few good things, occasionally (which is how I would have termed Brandon coming out of college). Woodyard brings it every play.

~G

[G_Money]

Does Woodyard?

Yes.

~G

[CoachChaz]

Wait another round.

Caleb Campbell...6'2", 223...4.48

[BOSSHOGG30]

6'1", 219...4.43

I saw him run with the other linebackers at the Senior Bowl... either he was half assing, the other linebackers running drills with him are faster, or his 4.43 time you have there is a bad figure.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I love this hit by Reggie Smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjZUuAIQmA

[G_Money]

Wait another round.

Caleb Campbell...6'2", 223...4.48

I've heard REALLY good things about Campbell but I just didn't watch enough Army games. When I saw him he looked good, but I didn't get to watch him enough in the open field to be able to judge how much speed he had and if it was enough to play full-time SS in the pros.

I take it you think he can do it. If that time is right (and I don't doubt your times) then I'd say he could, too. :beer:

~G

[G_Money]

I saw him run with the other linebackers at the Senior Bowl... either he was half assing, the other linebackers running drills with him are faster, or his 4.43 time you have there is a bad figure.

Singletary told him to slow down.

Seriously.

And at the end of the week, Singletary picked "Kentucky" as the guy he thought the most of. Kentucky, then LSU, then some others.

I am curious, though: You DID see him live (I just watched the drills on TV) and you're apparently not impressed. Do you think he's significantly slower or is there something else that makes you think he's not the guy I think he is?

~G

[CoachChaz]

When I list a time, I list the lowest time as long as the highest time isn't too far off. If it is, I'll list the average. Woodyard's low is a 4.43, with a high of 4.51. So, average it out to a 4.47

Campbell has 4.48 and 4.56, so the average is 4.52. The kid is huge, but extremely athletic and hits like a ton of bricks.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Singletary told him to slow down.

Seriously.

And at the end of the week, Singletary picked "Kentucky" as the guy he thought the most of. Kentucky, then LSU, then some others.

~G

Probably... I'm just afraid that teams will want him to bulk up and play WILL Linebacker. I'm not sold on his coverage skills and that is the big thing we need. I like the idea of bringing in one of those CB/S hybrids... not LB/S hybrids.

Give me Castille or Smith

[BOSSHOGG30]

Abdullah is our hitter... we need a coverage safety...

Again... Give me Smith or Castille

[lex]

Probably... I'm just afraid that teams will want him to bulk up and play WILL Linebacker. I'm not sold on his coverage skills and that is the big thing we need. I like the idea of bringing in one of those CB/S hybrids... not LB/S hybrids.

Give me Castille or Smith

DeCoud is a CB converted to S.

[dogfish]

all this discussion, and shenanigans will probably draft desean jackson because he wants more speed in the return game. . . . :laugh:

[CoachChaz]

Abdullah is our hitter... we need a coverage safety...

Again... Give me Smith or Castille

When Abdullah actually hits the guy. I'm all for goin with Phillips in the first and Woodyard or Campbell in the 4th. Just revamp the safeties altogether.

[G_Money]

Probably... I'm just afraid that teams will want him to bulk up and play WILL Linebacker. I'm not sold on his coverage skills and that is the big thing we need. I like the idea of bringing in one of those CB/S hybrids... not LB/S hybrids.

Give me Castille or Smith

Yeah, teams are either gonna make him eat lard and try to make him into Gold or they're gonna move him to safety.

I think he'd be an adequate Will. I really do. But I don't know why you wouldn't remove his weakness by moving him to safety instead. It's not like he's never played safety. The probations forced KYs hand, and he moved to LB. He just never moved back. If Stanford had made Lynch play LB instead of SS he could have done it, but SS was where he belonged.

I think SS is where Woodyard belongs as well. We'll see if whoever drafts him agrees with me. :lol:

~G

[G_Money]

Abdullah is our hitter... we need a coverage safety...

Again... Give me Smith or Castille

Yeah, you and I differ on Abdullah. I don't want him starting if I can help it.

I wouldn't object to Castille or DeCoud, though, depending on the round. I like Demps too.

~G

[G_Money]

When Abdullah actually hits the guy. I'm all for goin with Phillips in the first and Woodyard or Campbell in the 4th. Just revamp the safeties altogether.

That's one of the things I like about Woodyard - he doesn't cost me a 1st day pick, but he could wind up being as good as the 1st day guys.

I hope Shanny doesn't package up all our 2nd day picks for one splashy re-appearance in the 1st 3 rounds - I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of interesting talent available 4th round and below at positions of interest (RB, WR, OL, S, etc).

~G

[CoachChaz]

That's one of the things I like about Woodyard - he doesn't cost me a 1st day pick, but he could wind up being as good as the 1st day guys.

I hope Shanny doesn't package up all our 2nd day picks for one splashy re-appearance in the 1st 3 rounds - I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of interesting talent available 4th round and below at positions of interest (RB, WR, OL, S, etc).

~G

Absolutely. Right now, I have Woodyard/Campbell, Duane Brown and Nick Hayden in rounds 4-6. All of which could make major contributions.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Yeah, you and I differ on Abdullah. I don't want him starting if I can help it.

I wouldn't object to Castille or DeCoud, though, depending on the round. I like Demps too.

~G

Abdullah has the talent... everyone sees it... he just needs the experience. I think we will see a lot better player this season. I'm fine with him at SS. He is already better than John Lynch.

I'm hopeful that Roderick Rogers is 100% and we can see what he has in the tank. He was a very good safety in the big 10. Very fast guy too with good coverage skills.

Maybe we can pick up Reggie Smith in the 1st and Woodyard in the 3rd or 4th. We should be set at SS and FS if we do that.

[Lonestar]

Abdullah has the talent... everyone sees it... he just needs the experience. I think we will see a lot better player this season. I'm fine with him at SS. He is already better than John Lynch.

I'm hopeful that Roderick Rogers is 100% and we can see what he has in the tank. He was a very good safety in the big 10. Very fast guy too with good coverage skills.

Maybe we can pick up Reggie Smith in the 1st and Woodyard in the 3rd or 4th. We should be set at SS and FS if we do that.

probably for a long time.. mikey more so (DEN) has always had a legacy safety around..

[lex]

Abdullah has the talent... everyone sees it... he just needs the experience. I think we will see a lot better player this season. I'm fine with him at SS. He is already better than John Lynch.

I'm hopeful that Roderick Rogers is 100% and we can see what he has in the tank. He was a very good safety in the big 10. Very fast guy too with good coverage skills.

Maybe we can pick up Reggie Smith in the 1st and Woodyard in the 3rd or 4th. We should be set at SS and FS if we do that.

Id rather take Woodyard in the first than Reggie Smith.

[Lonestar]

Id rather take Woodyard in the first than Reggie Smith.


Wow and I thought mikey was bad..

[BOSSHOGG30]

I wouldn't mind seeing Denver trade back... pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder by doing just that.

Draft Reggie Smith in the 1st
Draft Gosder Cherilus in the 2nd
us the extra pick in the 2nd to pick up Philip Wheeler
and then draft Wesley Woodyard in the 3rd or 4th... if we feel he will go in the 3rd, we can use the many extra 2nd day picks we have to move up to the 3rd round.

FS Reggie Smith
T Gosder Cherilus
SS Wesley Woodyard
LB Philip Wheeler


That wouldn't be a bad draft.

[lex]

Wow and I thought mikey was bad..

At least Woodyard address the front 7 in that he can play S AND LB. Besides, if youre going to reach on Smith, you might as well reach on a better player.

[BOSSHOGG30]

At least Woodyard address the front 7 in that he can play S AND LB. Besides, if youre going to reach on Smith, you might as well reach on a better player.

Woodyard better than Smith? LOL (my best Tom Brady laugh)

[dogfish]

That's one of the things I like about Woodyard - he doesn't cost me a 1st day pick, but he could wind up being as good as the 1st day guys.

I hope Shanny doesn't package up all our 2nd day picks for one splashy re-appearance in the 1st 3 rounds - I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of interesting talent available 4th round and below at positions of interest (RB, WR, OL, S, etc).

~G

good post. . . . broncos fans place tremendous importance on the safety position because they're used to having atwater or dennis smith back there, but i've always maintained that you don't need all-pro safety play if you have a quality front seven (especially when you have an excellent pair of cover corners as well). . . . for years now we've spent our highest picks on this side of the ball at LB and CB-- i'd rather see us build from the inside out for a change. . .

i know you'll point out-- quite correctly-- that it's about individual players, not positions. . . but if we're in a situation where we've got two guys with comparable grades, i would much rather see us invest our 1st day picks on DT or OT, or even LB or RB. . . .

[CoachChaz]

I wouldn't mind seeing Denver trade back... pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder by doing just that.

Draft Reggie Smith in the 1st
Draft Gosder Cherilus in the 2nd
us the extra pick in the 2nd to pick up Philip Wheeler
and then draft Wesley Woodyard in the 3rd or 4th... if we feel he will go in the 3rd, we can use the many extra 2nd day picks we have to move up to the 3rd round.

FS Reggie Smith
T Gosder Cherilus
SS Wesley Woodyard
LB Philip Wheeler


That wouldn't be a bad draft.

If Woodyard gets picked up in the 3rd, you still have Campbell available. If not him, Josh Barrett or (gulp) Silva

[lex]

Woodyard better than Smith? LOL (my best Tom Brady laugh)

Time will tell.

[BOSSHOGG30]

If Woodyard gets picked up in the 3rd, you still have Campbell available. If not him, Josh Barrett or (gulp) Silva

I kind of like that idea. If we could pick up a DT like Corey Williams in free agency we wouldn't be to bad. I still like Studebaker out of Wheaton though as a OLB project. Maybe we wouldn't need Wheeler and could go DT there if we keep in mind that we wanted Studebaker in the later rounds.

[CoachChaz]

I kind of like that idea. If we could pick up a DT like Corey Williams in free agency we wouldn't be to bad. I still like Studebaker out of Wheaton though as a OLB project. Maybe we wouldn't need Wheeler and could go DT there if we keep in mind that we wanted Studebaker in the later rounds.

There are still solid DT's available later. I like Nick Hayden and Lionel Dotson. I don't think they are much worse than most of the DT's that will go in rounds 2-4.

[BOSSHOGG30]

There are still solid DT's available later. I like Nick Hayden and Lionel Dotson. I don't think they are much worse than most of the DT's that will go in rounds 2-4.

Trade back draft:

1st: FS Reggie Smith
2nd: DT Pat Simms
2nd: T Gosder Cherilus
4th: SS Wesley Woodyard (trade up to the 3rd if we have too)
6th: OLB Andrew Studebaker
7th: P Mike Dragosavich or P Durant Brooks

[lex]

Trade back draft:

1st: FS Reggie Smith
2nd: DT Pat Simms
2nd: T Gosder Cherilus
4th: SS Wesley Woodyard (trade up to the 3rd if we have too)
6th: OLB Andrew Studebaker
7th: P Mike Dragosavich or P Durant Brooks

Reggie Smith is all kinds of dumb.

Did you even watch Cherilous at the senior bowl? Any time a DE would change direction on him, he was screwed. He looked really bad, as he did all season. He looks better suited to play guard based on recent past.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Reggie Smith is all kinds of dumb.

Did you even watch Cherilous at the senior bowl? Any time a DE would change direction on him, he was screwed. He looked really bad, as he did all season. He looks better suited to play guard based on recent past.

You have no clue do you? Why I'm arguing with you I have no clue. You have the right to your own opinion, but I think I will go with mine because I deal with football players on a daily basis and I was actually at the Senior Bowl the entire week.

[lex]

You have no clue do you? Why I'm arguing with you I have no clue. You have the right to your own opinion, but I think I will go with mine because I deal with football players on a daily basis and I was actually at the Senior Bowl the entire week.

Im talking about the actual game. I know they had one on ones during the weak, which Im reluctant to put too much weight on since some guys may have lost their sharpness a month after the season ended. I have the Tue-Wed practices recorded though as well.

BTW, thans for passing on your thoughts to us from Mobile. I enjoyed reading them.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

DuJuan Morgan of NC State...where is he projected to go at this point?

[BOSSHOGG30]

DuJuan Morgan of NC State...where is he projected to go at this point?

He is slated to go anywhere from the 1st to the 3rd. He is a lot like Phillips as far as defensive backs go... Very good tackler, coverage is his weakness.

[#1bmarshfan]

i want a 5'9 215 pound safety. we need a mighty mouse...

[roomemp]

I say give Brandon Marshall a huge contract extension and through him back there.
That guy would be a beast on Defense

[CoachChaz]

i want a 5'9 215 pound safety. we need a mighty mouse...

Speaking of which, my friend just got back from AZ and hooked me up with Bob Sanders autograph...amongst many others.

[martz11]

Reggie Smith is an awesome talent... He will be a very good safety in the NFL. His stock will soar after the combine... I don't think this is an out of the question pick. Smith is up there with Morgan, Phillips, and Castille.

Ya we need another D-back like I need the ebolavirus, haven't you and Shanahan figured it out yet? It's called the front seven. The Giants just proved if you win the line of scrimmage and pressure qb's, you win games no matter who's playing in the secondary.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Ya we need another D-back like I need the ebolavirus, haven't you and Shanahan figured it out yet? It's called the front seven. The Giants just proved if you win the line of scrimmage and pressure qb's, you win games no matter who's playing in the secondary.

I swear people don't read... they just read the last page or pick one post and make a comment.

[champbronc2]

I frickin lol'ed

Is this for real!?? haha