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BRONCOSFREAK765
02-01-2008, 07:07 AM
Bob Slowik Must Be Fired

On January 16, 2004 Green Bay Packers coach Mike Sherman fired defensive coordinator Ed Donatell, making him the official scapegoat for his team's 4th-and-26 meltdown against the Philadelphia Eagles in the Packers' 20-17 loss of last year's NFC divisional playoff game.

To replace Donatell, Sherman promoted defensive backs coach Bob Slowik.

Slowik, who previously coordinated middling defenses in Chicago and Cleveland, drew up a high-pressure, high-risk, blitz-heavy scheme that was to be the identity of the 2004 Packers defense. After giving up 5 TD passes in the first half vs. Indianapolis in Week 3, his scheme was abandoned. Still, his defense gave up 5 TD passes in the first half in Week 13 against Philadelphia.

But twice giving up 5 TD passes in the first half is not why Bob Slowik must be fired. Nor is it his glaring lack of takeaways, or the insanely high opponents' passer rating. No. Bob Slowik must be fired because he schemed a defense that set many records -- in a bad way -- in the history of the Packer franchise.

Bob Slowik All-Time Records
Bob Slowik's defense is one for the history books. In a really, really bad way.

Record Slowik
Record Broken
Record
Fewest Opponent Turnovers, Season 15 16 (1995)
Fewest Passes Intercepted By, Season 8 13 (1980, 1995, 1998)
Fewest Forced Fumbles, Season 11 12 (1995)
Most First Downs Allowed, Passing, Season 228 188 (1995)
Most Yards Allowed, Net Passing, Season 3,943 3,762 (1983)
Most Yards Allowed, Passing, Game 464 448 (2004)
Most TD Allowed Passing, Season 33 31 (1986)
Highest Opponents' Passer Rating, Season 99.1 86.1 (1958)



Close-But-No-Cigar Bob Slowik All-Time Records
Thanks to Rich Wingo, Ezra Johnson, Estes Hood, and Ken Stills, Slowik finished second all-time in these categories:

Record Slowik
Record All-Time
Record
Most First Downs Allowed, Season 354 366 (1983)
Most First Downs Allowed, Penalty, Season 28 29 (2002)
Highest Completion Percentage Allowed, Season 60.6 63.45 (1989)



Likely Bob Slowik All-Time Records
Here are a few other likely records that I could not verify. Please send me an email if you have source info.

Fewest fumbles recovered, season
7. 2nd-lowest in NFL.
Opponents' 3rd down conversion percentage, season
47.3. 2nd-worst in NFL.
Opponents' passing yards/attempt, season
7.61. 4th-worst in NFL.
Opponents' passing yards/completion, season
12.6. 3rd-worst in NFL.
Most passing TDs allowed, first half
5. But you knew that.
Most passing TDs, first half
5. Indianapolis franchise record.
Most passing TDs, first half
5. Philadelphia franchise record.
Most completions, start a game
14. Philadelphia franchise record. Confirmed.
Most passing yards, game
464. Philadelphia franchise record. Confirmed.

NameUsedBefore
02-01-2008, 11:37 AM
Excellent write up, and exactly why I'm not a fan of Bob Slowik anywhere outside of a specialist role.

JONtheBRONCO
02-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Great news.

dogfish
02-01-2008, 04:02 PM
thanks for ruining my lunch. . . .




:frusty:

BOSSHOGG30
02-01-2008, 04:05 PM
He's got my vote... the Hall of Fame is a joke anyways.

Lonestar
02-01-2008, 06:10 PM
Another mikey butt buddy,

yes man.

Mikey has fired the only ones that were not yes men Ray Rhodes and Jim Bates..

Skinny
02-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Another mikey butt buddy,

yes man.

Mikey has fired the only ones that were not yes men Ray Rhodes and Jim Bates..With that said, i wonder what kind of 'accountability' Slo will hold with the Defense seeing Mikey will also have his say in it.

If the Defense tightens up ... all is well in Broncoville. But should this little promotion fail, how long will Mikey give Slo ...

Watchthemiddle
02-01-2008, 06:34 PM
So we go from bad, to worse, to beyond embarrasing.

:mad:

Lonestar
02-01-2008, 06:35 PM
With that said, i wonder what kind of 'accountability' Slo will hold with the Defense seeing Mikey will also have his say in it.

If the Defense tightens up ... all is well in Broncoville. But should this little promotion fail, how long will Mikey give Slo ...


The real question if it does not what will PAT do..

Watchthemiddle
02-01-2008, 06:36 PM
The real question if it does not what will PAT do..

Sit in his high back leather chair, smoke on a cigar and continue to praise his coaching staff...mainly Shanahan.

Who knows, maybe we are all putting the cart before the horse..:rolleyes:

Bates was very successful before coming here, and then sucked.

Slowik could be the exact opposite. :laugh:

Lonestar
02-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Sit in his high back leather chair, smoke on a cigar and continue to praise his coaching staff...mainly Shanahan.

Who knows, maybe we are all putting the cart before the horse..:rolleyes:

Bates was very successful before coming here, and then sucked.

Slowik could be the exact opposite. :laugh:

hold your breath and ponder that one..

JONtheBRONCO
02-01-2008, 07:19 PM
He's got my vote... the Hall of Fame is a joke anyways.

You should of seen the Hall of Fame segment they had on ESPN today... They had a former Redskin on (forget who) and discussed how the Redskins where getting jobbed when it came to the Hall. Now thats a joke....

BRONCOSFREAK765
02-02-2008, 10:24 AM
Another mikey butt buddy,

yes man.

Mikey has fired the only ones that were not yes men Ray Rhodes and Jim Bates..

I just hope shanny doesnt wait until the end of the year to make him a scapegoat.

MOtorboat
02-02-2008, 10:28 AM
Another mikey butt buddy,

yes man.

Mikey has fired the only ones that were not yes men Ray Rhodes and Jim Bates..

Not that I don't disagree with you, but Bates was a disaster in Denver...

BRONCOSFREAK765
02-02-2008, 10:39 AM
i know right, i actually would have been happier if we gave bates one more year. i have an uneasy feeling with slowik runnin the D. actually thinking of either one makes me wanna vomit.

AFGAHNI_BATTLE_DONKEY
02-02-2008, 01:18 PM
slowik will dominate.
trust me

omac
02-02-2008, 11:04 PM
So we go from bad, to worse, to beyond embarrasing.

:mad:

Nah, I doubt our run defense gets any worse than it was this past season under Bates. And if you look at the stats on nfl.com, Bates has had some teams with poor rushing defenses.

We won't have a great defense next season, but it will be better than this one.

Lonestar
02-03-2008, 01:42 AM
Nah, I doubt our run defense gets any worse than it was this past season under Bates. And if you look at the stats on nfl.com, Bates has had some teams with poor rushing defenses.

We won't have a great defense next season, but it will be better than this one.


You did not have to set the standard very high for this statement did you..

BOSSHOGG30
02-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Good thing we have Slowik because god knows that we didn't need Gregg Williams as our defensive coordintor (sarcasm button)

mclark
02-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Let's hope Slowik learned something from his past failures. Can the defense be any worse than they were this year? I guess it's possible.

I've read some quotes from players who say Slowik is brilliant (I think Champ Bailey was one of those).

Not much we can do now but hope he'll be more effectively aggressive than Bates was this year.

DenBronx
02-06-2008, 03:05 PM
does anyone know why were taking a chance on slowik? this seems like a terrible choice for head dc. it's like we went from average (coyer) to bad (bates) to just plain terrible (slowik). there were several good candidates that mikey could of picked but this could turn out very bad for him and the team.

BOSSHOGG30
02-06-2008, 03:19 PM
I don't get it at all. I hipe Slowik is good, but the odds are against him. I guess Shanny doesn't want to bring in any coaches that might challenge him or the rest of the staff.

LordTrychon
02-06-2008, 03:24 PM
does anyone know why were taking a chance on slowik? this seems like a terrible choice for head dc. it's like we went from average (coyer) to bad (bates) to just plain terrible (slowik). there were several good candidates that mikey could of picked but this could turn out very bad for him and the team.

Who here honestly thought during all the 'Fire Coyer' threads that we'd miss him two years later?

I thought there was a good chance.... but I wish I was wrong.

dogfish
02-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Who here honestly thought during all the 'Fire Coyer' threads that we'd miss him two years later?

I thought there was a good chance.... but I wish I was wrong.

i don't miss him-- i do wish we'd have hired someone with a better track record than slowik, but that doesn't mean i'd want coyer back, either. . . .

LordTrychon
02-06-2008, 03:30 PM
i don't miss him-- i do wish we'd have hired someone with a better track record than slowik, but that doesn't mean i'd want coyer back, either. . . .

But would you take him over what happened last year?

And what may happen this year?

broncofanatic1987
02-06-2008, 03:45 PM
All I can say is, if Slowik fails to produce a top 15 defense and the Broncos fail to make the playoffs, Shanahan better be fired too. The scapegoating must come to an end.

dogfish
02-06-2008, 04:06 PM
But would you take him over what happened last year?

And what may happen this year?


i still think what happened last year had as much to do with personnel as coaching. . . . and given a choice between coyer and slowik, i'd rather have NEITHER. . . . but, if you put a gun to my head and made me choose, i suppose i'd take the devil i don't know over the one i do-- at least it leaves me some slight hope. . . .

of course, the best solution would be go out and get a real, proven DC instead of choosing between scrub A and scrub B. . . . too late to piss and moan about it now i suppose, but greg williams was available. . . .

broncofanatic1987
02-06-2008, 05:01 PM
i still think what happened last year had as much to do with personnel as coaching. . . . and given a choice between coyer and slowik, i'd rather have NEITHER. . . . but, if you put a gun to my head and made me choose, i suppose i'd take the devil i don't know over the one i do-- at least it leaves me some slight hope. . . .

of course, the best solution would be go out and get a real, proven DC instead of choosing between scrub A and scrub B. . . . too late to piss and moan about it now i suppose, but greg williams was available. . . .

What are the chances of a top defensive coordinator wanting to work for Shanahan, knowing he will be scapegoated when things don't go quite the way everyone was hoping?

I have trouble believing any of the top defensive coordinators will ever agree to work for Shanahan after what happened with Bates. Not just Bates either, but Coyer and some of those before him. Coyer wasn't such a scrub in 2005, but after Shanahan forced him to dial down the blitzing, he became everyone's favorite pinata when complaining about the defense in 2006.

dogfish
02-06-2008, 05:32 PM
What are the chances of a top defensive coordinator wanting to work for Shanahan, knowing he will be scapegoated when things don't go quite the way everyone was hoping?

I have trouble believing any of the top defensive coordinators will ever agree to work for Shanahan after what happened with Bates. Not just Bates either, but Coyer and some of those before him. Coyer wasn't such a scrub in 2005, but after Shanahan forced him to dial down the blitzing, he became everyone's favorite pinata when complaining about the defense in 2006.

fair point. . . .

DenBronx
02-06-2008, 09:47 PM
All I can say is, if Slowik fails to produce a top 15 defense and the Broncos fail to make the playoffs, Shanahan better be fired too. The scapegoating must come to an end.

agreed.

as much as i love shanny i must agree with this statement. he is just about done with the grace period after winning 2 superbowls in the 90's. he is still one of the top 5 coaches but i think the broncos will begin to hunt for some new blood if this isnt fixed in a hurry.

Lonestar
02-06-2008, 09:55 PM
agreed.

as much as i love shanny i must agree with this statement. he is just about done with the grace period after winning 2 superbowls in the 90's. he is still one of the top 5 coaches but i think the broncos will begin to hunt for some new blood if this isnt fixed in a hurry.


Lets only hope..

WARHORSE
02-07-2008, 05:12 AM
Bailey: Slowik's promotion right fit
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post (bwilliamson@denverpost.com?subject=The Denver Post: Bailey: Slowik's promotion right fit)
Article Last Updated: 02/06/2008 11:14:53 PM MST





HONOLULU — Champ Bailey believes Bob Slowik is the right man to run the Broncos' defense.
In fact, Bailey has believed that for a year.
"To tell the truth, I think this is a year too late," Bailey said Wednesday at the Pro Bowl. "Nothing against (Jim) Bates, but Slowik is the right fit for this defense."
Slowik has been the Broncos' secondary coach since 2005. He was promoted to defensive coordinator early in 2007 but Bates, who was hired in January 2007, was in charge of the defense. When Bates and the team mutually parted ways last month, Slowik was promptly promoted. He has been a defensive coordinator with Green Bay, Chicago and Cleveland.
Bailey said Slowik's familiarity with the players is going to help.
"He's been here for a while, and he knows how it all works," Bailey said. "I think there will be more consistency. I think Bates was a good coach, but we didn't have the personnel for what he ran. It just didn't work. We were all over the place. He'd have starters get cut. It was no consistency there."
Bailey said he hopes the Broncos spend their free-agency money and draft choices on defensive players. He said the team needs help at defensive tackle and perhaps linebacker.
"We need a few more players," Bailey said. "Hopefully, we get that help."
Of prime concern is linemen who can pressure the quarterback, he said.
"The Giants won the Super Bowl with a pass rush," Bailey said. "That's how you win. . . . Hopefully, we can do something like that."



Commish on Henry.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said he doesn't believe there will be a fallout from Broncos running back Travis Henry's victory over the league in his drug testing case.
In his first public comments on the case, Goodell said the substance-abuse program and drug-testing policies work, and he is not concerned other players who test positive for marijuana will be able to avoid suspensions.
He said the Henry case was isolated, and if he has one regret it is that the NFL did not communicate one aspect of the process to Henry. Goodell wouldn't elaborate. "There was a failure there," Goodell said. "Players have rights and we have responsibilities. . . . But overall, I believe in our system and our program."

omac
02-07-2008, 08:13 AM
You did not have to set the standard very high for this statement did you..

Hehehe, Slowik should be thanking Bates for this one. After the way the defense was under Bates, Slowik could look like a genius ... I hope. :D