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bmarsh15
01-21-2008, 01:15 PM
Are we still going to draft a safety like Kenny Phillips this year because I hope we do, now is the perfect time Lynch can mentor a safety and play situational downs, what do you guys think? Here's the link:
it's on fox sports website can't find the link though

BOSSHOGG30
01-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I want to be happy about this, but something is telling me that it was time for Lynch to call it quits. I hope he can stay healthy and contribute, but regardless he is an important leader on and off the field.

G_Money
01-21-2008, 01:37 PM
This is good news from a leadership persective.

Memo to Shanny: We still need two safeties.

If you feel like this is a good year to draft a safety project (cb-to-fs-conversion or lb-to-ss-conversion) feel free to do so. I recommend Woodyard - having Lynch train him in playing safety in the pros would be invaluable, and Woodyard is already outstanding from a leadership perspective.

But this doesn't let you off the hook - all it does is partially help the deficiency you caused by not drafting a safety in last year's (better) class.

Don't skip out on the position 2 years in a row, please.

~G

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-21-2008, 01:42 PM
Worst news of the off season so far

NameUsedBefore
01-21-2008, 01:57 PM
I want to be happy about this, but something is telling me that it was time for Lynch to call it quits. I hope he can stay healthy and contribute, but regardless he is an important leader on and off the field.

Agreed. I think Lynch finally lost a step last year... but at the same time, I don't know if we could actually find two safeties better than him (draft/FA) to put on this team.

Requiem / The Dagda
01-21-2008, 02:22 PM
Looks like we'll be ignoring safety again because we give preference to all-time greats, regardless if they're not the same "great" they used to be. AWESOME. I can't wait to hear the Sundquist, "Well. . . we felt comfortable with who we had back there, and honestly - what rookie would come in and compete and start?"

Bronco9798
01-21-2008, 02:27 PM
He's a good guy, but at some point you have to look at what he can actually contribute, besides leadership, and see if his ability is there to play at the level required. Of course it's not.

Just because you have leadership doesn't mean you can cover a young receiver or TE and provide the corners some help.

Skinny
01-21-2008, 02:28 PM
We're a better football team with John Lynch on the roster. That said, he still has his weaknesses. He's not particularly strong in one-on-one coverage do to losing a step over the past few seasons and can be beat easily ... his range is'nt that long, unless he's put himself in the right position which he usely does. He's better suited in 'zone' where he can use his smarts and experiance to put himself in position to make plays, that's his strength.

Let's just hope Slo will utilize Lynch's strengths and does'nt ask him to do something he's not physically capable of doing. Lynch still has enough in the tank to be a factor on Defense IMO ... especially in run support.

I would still Draft Philips if he's there at that pick. We need to address Lynch's inevitable retirement, sooner rather than later would be best, and doing so with a top tier young prospect would be a great start ...

Broncolingus
01-21-2008, 02:30 PM
...as A Coach???!!!

Requiem / The Dagda
01-21-2008, 02:50 PM
...as A Coach???!!!

Woah, is that true?

JONtheBRONCO
01-21-2008, 02:54 PM
Don't you have some crack to sell?

Keep comments like that to yourself. It's obvious you are trying to stereotype. Don't be ignorant. Thanks.

Broncolingus
01-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Woah, is that true?

I don't think so...I was being a smart-a.

John has been great, and God love him, but I think his days as a contributor on the field are proabably behind him...

I think I'd like to see him mentoring/teaching the young talent we have rather than missing tackles and getting run past...

Stargazer
01-21-2008, 02:59 PM
Looks like we'll be ignoring safety again

Probably. We'll hear how Sam Brandon, Hamza, Lynch, and Fergy are solid football players and we'll be fine at both S positions this year.:tsk:

BOSSHOGG30
01-21-2008, 03:07 PM
Speaking of Sam Brandon... wonder if he will be back with us next year?

Timmy!
01-21-2008, 03:09 PM
Good news. We still need Safety help badly, but this year Lynch can impart some wisdom on his replacement. Like Skinny said, if Slo can use Lynch for what he is and not put him in coverage as much it will help. I'm biased, but the old man can't cover man to man anymore, and really shouldn't be on the field if it's 3 and longer than 6. Hopefully he will play around 60% of the downs and share time with a young stud (to be named...we hope).

The old man isn't was washed up as some people might think, in 13 games last year he had 59 tackles, 46 of them solo.

MileHighWrath
01-21-2008, 03:14 PM
I like having Lynch on the team, but he needs to take a pay cut. Now, draft a safety or two for him to influence and it's all good. Please don't ignore the needs at safety like last year because John Lynch does NOT fulfill them.

BroncoWave
01-21-2008, 03:32 PM
Great, another year with an old, slow, underachieving safety! Awesome!

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. I just don't think he is a very good player anymore.

Lonestar
01-21-2008, 03:33 PM
Perhaps he is slower than most, but he has been for awhile. He compensates for that by Knowing where he is supposed to be on the field..

Someone above said he had folks run by him or missed tackles. I did not see any gapping issues with him there anymore so than any of the other players in the backfield.

Unless we draft someone or bring in solid FA that takes his place I suspect that he will indeed see most of the plays this coming year..

Just like cutting Mike Leach threads one just does not see the value for carrying him as TE. Cutting John is another non starter!!

I do not see anyone take the spot from him till he is ready to hang them up.

MHCBill
01-21-2008, 04:30 PM
Good news. We still need Safety help badly, but this year Lynch can impart some wisdom on his replacement. Like Skinny said, if Slo can use Lynch for what he is and not put him in coverage as much it will help. I'm biased, but the old man can't cover man to man anymore, and really shouldn't be on the field if it's 3 and longer than 6. Hopefully he will play around 60% of the downs and share time with a young stud (to be named...we hope).

The old man isn't was washed up as some people might think, in 13 games last year he had 59 tackles, 46 of them solo.That's great in theory, but Lynch has already stated that if he comes back it will only be to play full-time.

He doesn't want a diminished role.

I say, let him go. Time to build with youth, not let players past their prime impede the younger guys' progress.

Davii
01-21-2008, 04:41 PM
That's great in theory, but Lynch has already stated that if he comes back it will only be to play full-time.

He doesn't want a diminished role.

I say, let him go. Time to build with youth, not let players past their prime impede the younger guys' progress.

I don't see it as impeding. If we brought in a young buck the better player would be the one to take the field.

I honestly don't think there's a rookie out there who could take John's starting spot from him. John might have lost a step but he is a smart player and manages to make a play more often than he misses them.

I would like to see Shanny draft a safety to be groomed as the replacement for Lynch, but I think it would be a mistake to think someone coming in would be able to fill his shoes.

We saw this at MLB, Al had dropped off a lot, but the young stud still needs at least one more year to get his head wrapped around the position.

G_Money
01-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Lynch didn't play full-time this year, I'm not sure why he'd expect to do it next year.


At the same time, Lynch has seen his playing time decrease this season. He has been removed in favor of Domonique Foxworth on obvious passing downs. And for a player who has participated in 99 percent of the defensive snaps the past two seasons, it has been a difficult adjustment.

"Believe me, I don't like that," Lynch said. "But I guess everything factors into the decision. That's why I have to step back at the end of the season. It's emotional."

I understand he's gonna want to start, and play a lot of downs, but I expect him to still come off the field in obvious passing downs. He can't even cover TE's any more, and as competitive as Lynch is, he's not blind like Simeon Rice about whatever current weaknesses might be in his game.

~G

JONtheBRONCO
01-21-2008, 04:42 PM
Speaking of Sam Brandon... wonder if he will be back with us next year?

Good question. What do you think Boss?

Medford Bronco
01-21-2008, 05:18 PM
I think he is not the player he was in 04 and 05
I like him but wish he retired IMO

ChampWJ
01-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Still no link huh?:confused:

Atabronc
01-21-2008, 06:02 PM
But about the thread...

If Lynch wants to come back for another year, that's fine, but he'd better be ready to compete with whatever FS we bring in through the draft, FA, whatever. He's a stand up guy and deserves a shot to start. My big fear is that Shanny will start him irrespective of how he's playing or how his competion does. It was clear that Abdullah should have started for Ferguson since pre-season, but it took Shanahan half the season to finally turn him loose.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-21-2008, 06:11 PM
Still no link huh?:confused:

And nothing on this locally so far

mopatt24
01-21-2008, 07:18 PM
I'm glad he's back for one more year, but I still would like us to draft Kenny Phillips. I could say his play has dropped off a bit, but when you look at the season in general, our defense sucked and had no identity. Everyone on our defense's play looked like it dropped.

Welcome back John!!

Dreadnought
01-21-2008, 07:39 PM
The scary thing is he may still be the best Safety on the roster. Abdullah has some potential and is a good hitter though mistake prone, but the rest of the corps is pitiful to watch. When Ferguson was starting we might as well have been playing with ten men on the field. So, I guess I'm glad he'll be back, but it HAS to be as a stopgap and as a trainer/mentor/on field coach or we are in serious trouble on defense.

As if we aren't already...

SmilinAssasSin27
01-21-2008, 08:18 PM
FRICK!

Draft Phillips anyways and get a guy who could use some grooming like Silva of Boston College. Dude is a Lynch clone and as a later pick could be used on ST while Lynch shows him the ropes.

Now back to reality...I now doubt Shanny even CONSIDERS a Safety in the draft.

Scarface
01-21-2008, 09:40 PM
I now doubt Shanny even CONSIDERS a Safety in the draft.

Why? Lynch is only going to play one more year. This is as good as time as any to draft a safety.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-21-2008, 09:41 PM
As someone else posted, I see Shanny being content w/ the steaming pile we currently have.

topscribe
01-21-2008, 10:35 PM
Okay, here's the deal. JR has been busy in this thread, quietly and politely
deleting and editing where he has to so as to keep the flow going. I have had
to delete a couple myself.

We do this to try to remain as indivisible and unimposing as we can.


HOWEVER:

The sniping and personal innuendo that has been taking place among some of
you is very against the rules. Stay on topic and make the topic the issue, not
each other.

Now, :focus:

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BANJOPICKER1
01-21-2008, 11:03 PM
Lynch makes me feel like we have one player we got that didnt stink up the place..I hope he is a Bronco until he decides to retire..I also hope Mike plays him for what he can do and not what he used to do next year...I like the guy!!:D

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-21-2008, 11:50 PM
This aint tru/ lol Lynch has not said he was comin back

G_Money
01-22-2008, 12:04 AM
Yeah, I went looking for an announcement earlier today and didn't see one.

Still don't see one.

So apparently this isn't actually "news."

It's just a thread for arguing. ;)

~G

dogfish
01-22-2008, 01:32 AM
That's great in theory, but Lynch has already stated that if he comes back it will only be to play full-time.

He doesn't want a diminished role.

I say, let him go. Time to build with youth, not let players past their prime impede the younger guys' progress.



great in theory, but the truth is we don't HAVE any young talent whose progress he can impede, and haven't for several years. . . guys like curome cox and steve cargile aren't real hard to keep off the field-- in fact, we're so devoid of talent at the position that we've been trying to pass a 190 pounds soaking wet cornerback off as a safety for the past year and a half. . .


IMO, we should bring in a solid vet, plug him in and forget about it, and devote our attention to where it really needs to be-- the offensive and defensive lines! there's a strong group of safeties this year in free agency, even with sanders and polamalu signing big extensions. . . gibril wilson, madieu williams, yeremiah bell, eric coleman. . . none of those guys will break the bank, and they're all competent players in their prime. . .

xzn
01-22-2008, 02:29 AM
Here's the only "news" I could find from a google search:

Jan. 20, 2008 - 10:54 a.m. ET

There is a "feeling at Dove Valley" that Broncos S John Lynch will play in 2008, according to the Denver Post.

Lynch said on a TV show Friday that he's still undecided about whether he'll retire, but is expected to make a decision shortly. Lynch says he wants to return if the Broncos give him a big role on defense.

Source: Denver Post

http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=Nfl&id=1921

and this...

John Lynch Still Uncertain of NFL Future
The FanHouse - NFL - 01/20/2008 Tags : Florida, Football, John Lynch, NFL, Sports

Filed under: Broncos , AFC West John Lynch , former Florida Marlin and the guy most people know as the Broncos safety, still isn't ready to commit to returning to the NFL for his 16th season . Appearing on FSN's Pro Football preview show on Friday, Lynch said he was still unsure of his future plans. Lynch, 36, is expected to soon announce whether he'll come back to the...

http://www.wikio.com/sports/football/nfl/nfl_players/john_lynch

That's not exactly an announcement, which is what this thread implies! Could the administrators either have the thread starters provide a link or change the title of this thread I just wasted five minutes reading through only to realize it appears to be either fabricated or histrionic?

TIA, XZN

Lonestar
01-22-2008, 02:33 AM
Here's the only "news" I could find from a google search:

Jan. 20, 2008 - 10:54 a.m. ET

There is a "feeling at Dove Valley" that Broncos S John Lynch will play in 2008, according to the Denver Post.

Lynch said on a TV show Friday that he's still undecided about whether he'll retire, but is expected to make a decision shortly. Lynch says he wants to return if the Broncos give him a big role on defense.

Source: Denver Post

http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=Nfl&id=1921

and this...

John Lynch Still Uncertain of NFL Future
The FanHouse - NFL - 01/20/2008 Tags : Florida, Football, John Lynch, NFL, Sports

Filed under: Broncos , AFC West John Lynch , former Florida Marlin and the guy most people know as the Broncos safety, still isn't ready to commit to returning to the NFL for his 16th season . Appearing on FSN's Pro Football preview show on Friday, Lynch said he was still unsure of his future plans. Lynch, 36, is expected to soon announce whether he'll come back to the...

http://www.wikio.com/sports/football/nfl/nfl_players/john_lynch

That's not exactly an announcement, which is what this thread implies! Could the administrators either have the thread starters provide a link or change the title of this thread I just wasted five minutes reading through only to realize it appears to be either fabricated or histrionic?

TIA, XZN

I always ask for one and I almost always place them in my posts when I quote someone it is indeed the correct thing to do..

In fact I try to cut and paste the article and then the link..

dogfish
01-22-2008, 02:54 AM
this is much ado about nothing-- he'll be back. . . .

Davii
01-22-2008, 03:24 AM
this is much ado about nothing-- he'll be back. . . .

Hopefully that's the decision he comes too.

pnbronco
01-22-2008, 04:10 AM
Lynch makes me feel like we have one player we got that didnt stink up the place..I hope he is a Bronco until he decides to retire..I also hope Mike plays him for what he can do and not what he used to do next year...I like the guy!!:D

I really like the statement of using his present skills. The man still has a lot to offer and I think we really need his leadership. He knows the players that are in that locker room. He is a gifted speaker and he has earned the trust of his fellow players. I found it interesting that he was one of the players that talked to Cutler about being a stronger leader. He was not happy that it got out, so that tells me the man cares more about the team than his ego. If the time has come for him to spend more time with his family then I wish him only the best, but I will miss him a lot.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 11:00 AM
Lynch is trash now/ Stop bein homers man. The man is a liability on runnin and passin plays.

mclark
01-22-2008, 11:28 AM
Phillips, Connor or Clady?

I say Phillips also. Lynch is a leader, and a potential coach -- but Philips begins to rebuild the middle of our defense with young talent. Phillips is the first piece of this puzzle (actually the second, Marcus Thomas being the first), but not the last.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 11:33 AM
Phillips if we can sign gross and clady if not. I do want a gr8 OL for Cutty.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-22-2008, 07:42 PM
Lynch is trash now/ Stop bein homers man. The man is a liability on runnin and passin plays.

I believe it's time to move on, BUT I will say this...when he wasn't on the field, the D struggled last year. He may be slowing down, but it was obvious that he was missed.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 08:50 PM
I believe it's time to move on, BUT I will say this...when he wasn't on the field, the D struggled last year. He may be slowing down, but it was obvious that he was missed.

struggled with tha plays comin in?. yes.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-22-2008, 09:02 PM
still struggled. I'd say knowing the plays/calls/signs is kind of a major thing in the NFL.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 09:04 PM
still struggled. I'd say knowing the plays/calls/signs is kind of a major thing in the NFL.

:beer: But if your a liability whn tha play starts its uhhhhhhhh trashy

SmilinAssasSin27
01-22-2008, 09:06 PM
:beer: But if your a liability whn tha play starts its uhhhhhhhh trashy

which one would you rather though? Having a guy who at least gets em lined up right OR a guy who makes plays but can't get anyone else where they need to be.

I miss Al!

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 09:10 PM
which one would you rather though? Having a guy who at least gets em lined up right OR a guy who makes plays but can't get anyone else where they need to be.

I miss Al!

Sum1 who can do both :laugh:

SmilinAssasSin27
01-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Sum1 who can do both :laugh:

Which is why we should draft Kenny Phillips and Jamie Silva and let em learn from Lynch.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 09:27 PM
Which is why we should draft Kenny Phillips and Jamie Silva and let em learn from Lynch.

Im on tha Phillips train/ But Phillips plays Lynch postion an Phillips is a starter from day 1 IMO.

SmilinAssasSin27
01-22-2008, 09:31 PM
But he can still learn. Even if he plays out of position (which he can do) he's better than Hazma.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 09:55 PM
But he can still learn. Even if he plays out of position (which he can do) he's better than Hazma.

Nah you gotta let my man roam.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
01-22-2008, 09:56 PM
Nomore dj williams switcharoo crap