What is an obscene post?

[Bronco9798]

What is an obscene post? Is it someone's personal opinion. Is it something where you have **** ***** ******* all over the page cause it is obscene. Is it full of dirty words. When a person reports an obscene posts, what does that mean. How can it be obscene if none of the words are **** *** ***** *** out. The post I'm referring to contained no foul words, it was nothing really bad in my opinion. I guess I didn't know that masturbation was viewed as being obscene.

Why can't people that run around here all offended leave you a PM when they think you have left an obscene post.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not bitching, I'm just curious.

[claymore]

What is an obscene post? Is it someone's personal opinion. Is it something where you have **** ***** ******* all over the page cause it is obscene. Is it full of dirty words. When a person reports an obscene posts, what does that mean. How can it be obscene if none of the words are **** *** ***** *** out. The post I'm referring to contained no foul words, it was nothing really bad in my opinion. I guess I didn't know that masturbation was viewed as being obscene.

Why can't people that run around here all offended leave you a PM when they think you have left an obscene post.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not bitching, I'm just curious.
I hate it when people dont have the balls to tell you via PM. Was yours descriptive?

[Bronco9798]

I hate it when people dont have the balls to tell you via PM. Was yours descriptive?

Ill PM it to you. Don't want to offend the little nanny wanny running around here hitting the snitch button.

[claymore]

Ill PM it to you. Don't want to offend the little nanny wanny running around here hitting the snitch button.Roger. I said the same word at least twice yesterday, so I have a vested interest.

[BroncoJoe]

Ill PM it to you. Don't want to offend the little nanny wanny running around here hitting the snitch button.

There seems to be quite a few of them here....

[SR]

(M)obscene.


How could we be obscene when all of the fun words are **** out? Masturbation is not obscene if you're just talking about it alone by itself, but if you're running around telling people you just jerked it to some free online porn then that's a tad obscene.

[claymore]

MB needs to stop snitching.

[Bronco9798]

(M)obscene.


How could we be obscene when all of the fun words are **** out? Masturbation is not obscene if you're just talking about it alone by itself, but if you're running around telling people you just jerked it to some free online porn then that's a tad obscene.

No, just told someone they should practice..(MB) to extend it. It was an article from Mens Health. No big deal...Don't want to get into the details, it's obscene.

[SR]

No, just told someone they should practice..(MB) to extend it. It was an article from Mens Health. No big deal...Don't want to get into the details, it's obscene.

If you don't use it, you lose it.

[Mike]

ob·scene

1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.
2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.
3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive.

Personally, I think talk about masterbation doesn't have any place on a sports message board. It is lewd and indecent. And, honestly, I don't know why you would even want to talk about it on a sports message board. :confused:

See this is the problem that I often see. Certain people see things one way...others see it another way. Who is right? We have to choose between one or the other. Either way someone will be unhappy and feel set upon...like you obviously do.

[SR]

Funny, most 'unofficial' sports message boards I've come across are all fairly lewd and indecent.

If we can't have some verbal freedoms here, we might as well all be posting at Broncomania. After all, we started this site to avoid that one. At least at Broncomania I can say Kung **.

[claymore]

ob·scene

1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.
2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.
3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive.

Personally, I think talk about masterbation doesn't have any place on a sports message board. It is lewd and indecent. And, honestly, I don't know why you would even want to talk about it on a sports message board. :confused:

See this is the problem that I often see. Certain people see things one way...others see it another way. Who is right? We have to choose between one or the other. Either way someone will be unhappy and feel set upon...like you obviously do.

Thats why there are separate forums set up within this site. Fans can only say so much about one team, or even one sport.

If its in a lounge are then I think it is PG-13 at the minimum. And who knows more than 13 year olds about masturbation? Besides MB, I cannot think of anyone.

[Bronco9798]

ob·scene

1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.
2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.
3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive.

Personally, I think talk about masterbation doesn't have any place on a sports message board. It is lewd and indecent. And, honestly, I don't know why you would even want to talk about it on a sports message board. :confused:

See this is the problem that I often see. Certain people see things one way...others see it another way. Who is right? We have to choose between one or the other. Either way someone will be unhappy and feel set upon...like you obviously do.

I'm far from upset. BTW, this wasn't in the sports forum. This isn't a football board in this particular section. Just letting you know. I looked and couldn't find any football threads in that particualar area I was referring to, sorry. BTW, you can find sex and masturbation articles in bookstores and grocery stores all throughout the world. Again, just letting you know.

[SR]

Thats why there are separate forums set up within this site. Fans can only say so much about one team, or even one sport.

If its in a lounge are then I think it is PG-13 at the minimum. And who knows more than 13 year olds about masturbation? Besides MB, I cannot think of anyone.

Believe me, being in a country that doesn't allow porn for four months will make one's mind come up with some of the damnedest things.

[NightTrainLayne]

It wouldn't seem to me that the post in question was "obscene". If I had a vote, I'd vote to leave it alone. Did someone complain about it, or did a Mod make this determination on their own, or do you know Niner?

[Mike]

Funny, most 'unofficial' sports message boards I've come across are all fairly lewd and indecent.

If we can't have some verbal freedoms here, we might as well all be posting at Broncomania. After all, we started this site to avoid that one. At least at Broncomania I can say Kung **.

I know what a lot of sites allow. That is also the reason that I am here and not there. ;)

SR. I don't know about you, but it wasn't because I couldn't talk about lewd things or swear or loss "freedoms" that I left BM. I also don't think that was why this site was created.

Haha. That is funny that that is filtered.


I'm far from upset. BTW, this wasn't in the sports forum. This isn't a football board in this particular section. Just letting you know. I looked and couldn't find any football threads in that particualar area I was referring to, sorry. BTW, you can find sex and masturbation articles in bookstores and grocery stores all throughout the world. Again, just letting you know.

I was meaning the board as a whole...not a sub-forum. I also realize what you can find in books/magazines throughout the world. Does it really justify anything though?


Believe me, being in a country that doesn't allow porn for four months will make one's mind come up with some of the damnedest things.

Been there, done that.


I, as a regular poster here not a mod, don't see the reason to be lewd. I think that it is disrespectful towards other people...even if it is humorous. That is just my personal opinion but that doesn't influence my mod decisions though. Is it really that important to be able to talk about masturbation or sexual positions/situations?

Honestly though, as mods, we have to make the decision what is obscene. It is certainly subjective and often falls under personal opinion. If the people are not happy with where the current policy is then start a poll and let's see what the community has to say.

[MOtorboat]

Niner, which thread was that in last night?

[BeefStew25]

Being tactfully lewd is me. I could be screwed.

[topscribe]

As LDB said, the line has to be drawn somewhere. And no matter where it is
drawn, some people will be unhappy, on both sides of the line. Nonetheless,
this board has loosened up considerably on what is allowable.

But to those who think it would be better for them on another message board,
then go there. That's pretty simple, isn't it? And I say that without apology.

I don't agree with everything that exists on this message board. But it is the
best one going, IMO, so I'm not going to whine and moan because I know I
would not find the perfect board anywhere out there.

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[BeefStew25]

As LDB said, the line has to be drawn somewhere. And no matter where it is
drawn, some people will be unhappy, on both sides of the line. Nonetheless,
this board has loosened up considerably on what is allowable.

But to those who think it would be better for them on another message board,
then go there. That's pretty simple, isn't it?

I don't agree with everything that exists on this message board. But it is the
best one going, IMO, so I'm not going to whine and moan because I know I
would not find the perfect board anywhere out there.

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I will say you guys do a good job.

Gotta run. Luke is trying to get his dad out of the death star before it explodes.

[MOtorboat]

Well, I would just like to state that if the thread is about "What MB Should do Tonight," and the person doesn't expect a few off-color remarks, then they are kidding themselves.

Let's use some common sense, here. If it's in the "What's On Your Mind" forum on a Friday night with a poll about what I'm going to do tonight, it's going to have a few off-color, but not derogatory, or exceptionally lewd, comments. If you are easily offended, and want this to be a "football forum," then why are you in there reading that? Seriously? I guess it all comes down to the "You can't legislate common sense."

[BeefStew25]

Maybe we just need to talk about every running back available for the next 5 months.

[claymore]

I personally find some of the Anti American crap highly offensive. But I dont report there posts. I argue with them, but do not report there posts. Even though they report mine.

[Mike]

Maybe we just need to talk about every running back available for the next 5 months.

Nobody is saying that we should talk only Bronco. We just ask that you abide by the COC. And if you choose not to, then don't be upset if a post gets reported/edited/deleted.


I personally find some of the Anti American crap highly offensive. But I dont report there posts. I argue with them, but do not report there posts. Even though they report mine.

Anti-American rhetoric is not forbidden by the COC. Personal attacks are. Avoid the personal remarks and you probably won't be reported. And even if you are, the mods won't do anything if there isn't a violation.

[SR]

But to those who think it would be better for them on another message board,
then go there. That's pretty simple, isn't it? And I say that without apology.


I remember when I was a moderator here and I gave that ultimatum then was chastized for it. Must be nice up there eh?

[SR]

Nobody is saying that we should talk only Bronco. We just ask that you abide by the COC. And if you choose not to, then don't be upset if a post gets reported/edited/deleted.



Anti-American rhetoric is not forbidden by the COC. Personal attacks are. Avoid the personal remarks and you probably won't be reported. And even if you are, the mods won't do anything if there isn't a violation.

Who interprets what is and is not a personal attack?

When Frenchie said that we will fail at successfully building a government in Iraq, I took that as a personal attack...

What is and is not a personal attack can only be interpreted by the person who feels attacked. However, that does not mean that every time someone gets remotely offended that the run to the tit...

[Mike]

Who interprets what is and is not a personal attack?

When Frenchie said that we will fail at successfully building a government in Iraq, I took that as a personal attack...

What is and is not a personal attack can only be interpreted by the person who feels attacked. However, that does not mean that every time someone gets remotely offended that the run to the tit...

Not quite.

The mods make the final call. But personal attacks are fairly cut and dry.

Posting about a specific poster is a personal attack. Example...you are a POS. You are a moron. LDB is too stupid to see the point.

Posting your opinion about a situation to include public people is not an attack. Example...Mike Shanahan is a moron. The President is a moron.

Saying the US will fail in Iraq is a personal opinion...not an attack on anyone.

[claymore]

Nobody is saying that we should talk only Bronco. We just ask that you abide by the COC. And if you choose not to, then don't be upset if a post gets reported/edited/deleted.



Anti-American rhetoric is not forbidden by the COC. Personal attacks are. Avoid the personal remarks and you probably won't be reported. And even if you are, the mods won't do anything if there isn't a violation.I am an American so it is a personal attack on me and my fellow Americans.

[Mike]

I am an American so it is a personal attack on me and my fellow Americans.

No, it is not an attack on you personally. Claymore is an stupid, ugly American is a personal attack on you.

[SR]

you are a POS. You are a moron.

Post reported.

[claymore]

No, it is not an attack on you personally. Claymore is an stupid, ugly American is a personal attack on you.You SOB! :D

But it is just as offensive hearing some of that crap as one of the Church members hearing details about masturbation.

Your right, I do not need to attack anyone personally.

[topscribe]

I remember when I was a moderator here and I gave that ultimatum then was chastized for it. Must be nice up there eh?

I'm not chastising you, and it isn't an ultimatum. I'm just saying that if you or
anyone thinks it is better elsewhere, then what are you doing here? I wouldn't
be here if I felt that way. That's all.

And despite your apparently resentful allusion, I would say that either as a
Mod or as a regular member. Doesn't matter: I feel the same either way.

Nonetheless, if you took that position at one time, and now you are taking
this one, I do find that ironic.

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[SR]

I'm not taking any position, just pointing out your hypocrisy because as I recall you were the one who PM'ed me a few different times telling me I shouldn't say things like that after I recommended board members who were unhappy with that site ought to leave. That is all.

[topscribe]

I'm not taking any position, just pointing out your hypocrisy because as I recall you were the one who PM'ed me a few different times telling me I shouldn't say things like that after I recommended board members who were unhappy with that site ought to leave. That is all.

You are not "pointing out" anything. You are giving a vague reference without
examples. I don't remember taking that position with you. Now, if you want to
refresh my memory with specific examples, I would be grateful. But without
those examples, it is easy to make any kind of accusation, isn't it?

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[Broncospsycho77]

You are not "pointing out" anything. You are giving a vague reference without
examples. I don't remember taking that position with you. Now, if you want to
refresh my memory with specific examples, I would be grateful. But without
those examples, it is easy to make any kind of accusation, isn't it?

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How do your posts only go halfway across the line and then jump to the next? Just curious, and totally off-topic, but you know :D

[SR]

You are not "pointing out" anything. You are giving a vague reference without
examples. I don't remember taking that position with you. Now, if you want to
refresh my memory with specific examples, I would be grateful. But without
those examples, it is easy to make any kind of accusation, isn't it?

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Sure, right away. I save PMs from months ago just for times like these. :rolleyes:

I also make things up because I have not integrity.

[topscribe]

How do your posts only go halfway across the line and then jump to the next? Just curious, and totally off-topic, but you know :D

I use the <ENTER> key. It comes from writing sales copy. They have found
that people find it more pleasant and easier reading if the lines are no more
than 72 characters long. I don't know how long these are, though. I have
never counted them. I use the borders in the text box for guidance.

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[topscribe]

Sure, right away. I save PMs from months ago just for times like these. :rolleyes:

I also make things up because I have not integrity.

You say I said them; I say I did not. I say that because I do not believe I
would. You might have interpreted it one way, while I meant it another. I
don't know. And I will never know until and unless I see precisely what I said.
I am not provided the opportunity to dispute it, explain it, or apologize and
retract it, whatever would be appropriate.

A vague, undocumented accusation is best left unsaid. As I had in my sig for
some time: "It is best to think twice before saying nothing."

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[Jody]

Ill PM it to you. Don't want to offend the little nanny wanny running around here hitting the snitch button.

Well first of all, I'm not the one hitting the button, just so you know that...today.

Secondly, you are not exactly 'approachable' for sending a pm to. You are quite the opposite. You are aggressive and in defense mode all the time it seems like. So anyone who would be tempted to approach you, will want to avoid a personal fight back and forth in pms.

There are a lot of 'men' on this board who don't want aggressive or crude posting to occur. Even if they do not like my own posting style, I applaud them. They are the members who keep balance to this board and keep it enjoyable. You never know....it could be one of your own buddies complaining about you, but since they will not tell you and the mods will not tell you.....you'll be grabbing at straws trying to figure out 'who' has complained about you.

Hmmmm....I wonder who it could be :confused: :lol:

[claymore]

It was me. I cannot take the guilt.

[topscribe]

It was me. I cannot take the guilt.

And here I was about to throw you under the bus . . .

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[Jody]

Obscene:

term obscene is applied to written, verbal, or visual works or conduct that treat sex in an objectionable or lewd or lascivious manner.

Not exactly "personal opinion", maybe not to your liking, but nevertheless, it is what it is.

[Jody]

(M)obscene.


How could we be obscene when all of the fun words are **** out? Masturbation is not obscene if you're just talking about it alone by itself, but if you're running around telling people you just jerked it to some free online porn then that's a tad obscene.

SR, you have changed drastically in the last couple of weeks.
It makes me sad.

[KCL]

I use the <ENTER> key. It comes from writing sales copy. They have found
that people find it more pleasant and easier reading if the lines are no more
than 72 characters long. I don't know how long these are, though. I have
never counted them. I use the borders in the text box for guidance.

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This is how I like to write my post as well.:D
well I did have some comments on this subject
but I deleted them...;)

[MOtorboat]

Obscene:

term obscene is applied to written, verbal, or visual works or conduct that treat sex in an objectionable or lewd or lascivious manner.

Not exactly "personal opinion", maybe not to your liking, but nevertheless, it is what it is.

That certainly is personal opinion.

[KCL]

SR, you have changed drastically in the last couple of weeks.
It makes me sad.

I agree....SR doesn't like me anymore...:sad:

[Jody]

That certainly is personal opinion.


I guess it may come down to a matter of maturity deciding what is lewd or obscene. Otherwise, if everything is objectionable and questionable, are we all really posting on a Message Board? The entire reason for a dictionary is to use it as a guide to life. I said that is the "LEGAL" definition. Go to court, and you would be judged on that definition, no matter what YOUR opinion is.

[KCL]

I guess it may come down to a matter of maturity deciding what is lewd or obscene. Otherwise, if everything is objectionable and questionable, are we all really posting on a Message Board? The entire reason for a dictionary is to use it as a guide to life. I said that is the "LEGAL" definition. Go to court, and you would be judged on that definition, no matter what YOUR opinion is.

Jody....did you take a fiesty lesson from me?:D

[schnooks1]

When you go into a thread titled: Scientolgoy.. you expect religious wars but not Dr. Ruth!


I agree that there could be a thread that says.... anything goes *can be sexually explicit those with weak stomachs and strong morals stay out*

Then those that want to be carefree and moon the world can and there would be no reason to report anyone in a thread that warned you first!

[Jody]

Jody....did you take a fiesty lesson from me?:D

:nod: I did and I'm constructively using my knowledge now. :D

[schnooks1]

:nod: I did and I'm constructively using my knowledge now. :D

See... I told you, you could do it!! :D

[Bronco9798]

Well first of all, I'm not the one hitting the button, just so you know that...today.

Secondly, you are not exactly 'approachable' for sending a pm to. You are quite the opposite. You are aggressive and in defense mode all the time it seems like. So anyone who would be tempted to approach you, will want to avoid a personal fight back and forth in pms.

There are a lot of 'men' on this board who don't want aggressive or crude posting to occur. Even if they do not like my own posting style, I applaud them. They are the members who keep balance to this board and keep it enjoyable. You never know....it could be one of your own buddies complaining about you, but since they will not tell you and the mods will not tell you.....you'll be grabbing at straws trying to figure out 'who' has complained about you.

Hmmmm....I wonder who it could be :confused: :lol:


Oh I'm very approachable, you don't know me so you have no clue really. You may think I'm not, but I really am. Actually, I didn't mind the PM you sent to me. I laughed at first and thought I'd have a little fun with it. Personally, I don't mind the post being reported at all, I could care less. But, I figured why not have a little bit of fun with it. I did, and now we have a discussion. Who cares, really.

[KCL]

See... I told you, you could do it!! :D

She is almost as smart as I am...probably smarter at the moment as I
have a heck of a headache...:tsk:

[Jody]

When you go into a thread titled: Scientolgoy.. you expect religious wars but not Dr. Ruth!


I agree that there could be a thread that says.... anything goes *can be sexually explicit those with weak stomachs and strong morals stay out*

Then those that want to be carefree and moon the world can and there would be no reason to report anyone in a thread that warned you first!

I agree there really should be a smack forum that is hands-down....freedom of expression. Anyone who would complain within that forum gets a chewing out from the mods and/or banned. There does need to be this place for these posters who need to express themselves in such a manner. OR.....
They could just invest their own money and time and create a message board they would like that could adapt to their own personal viewpoints, and leave us, on this message board, alone....in peace, joking around, reading articles, just enjoying everyone overall, and not demanding/complaining that tned changes everything to fit their personal needs. ;)

[schnooks1]

I agree there really should be a smack forum that is hands-down....freedom of expression. Anyone who would complain within that forum gets a chewing out from the mods and/or banned. There does need to be this place for these posters who need to express themselves in such a manner. OR.....
They could just invest their own money and time and create a message board they would like that could adapt to their own personal viewpoints, and leave us, on this message board, alone....in peace, joking around, reading articles, just enjoying everyone overall, and not demanding/complaining that tned changes everything to fit their personal needs. ;)

AMEN!:beer:

[Jody]

:lol:
She is almost as smart as I am...probably smarter at the moment as I
have a heck of a headache...:tsk:

You are a better fisherman than I.

[Bronco9798]

I agree there really should be a smack forum that is hands-down....freedom of expression. Anyone who would complain within that forum gets a chewing out from the mods and/or banned. There does need to be this place for these posters who need to express themselves in such a manner. OR.....
They could just invest their own money and time and create a message board they would like that could adapt to their own personal viewpoints, and leave us, on this message board, alone....in peace, joking around, reading articles, just enjoying everyone overall, and not demanding/complaining that tned changes everything to fit their personal needs. ;)


Boring.....:D:rolleyes:

[KCL]

Oh I'm very approachable, you don't know me so you have no clue really. You may think I'm not, but I really am. Actually, I didn't mind the PM you sent to me. I laughed at first and thought I'd have a little fun with it. Personally, I don't mind the post being reported at all, I could care less. But, I figured why not have a little bit of fun with it. I did, and now we have a discussion. Who cares, really.

hmmm...I missed that post that you say got deleted:confused:...can you post it
again?:laugh:

I need to get rid of my HA and that might do the trick.

[Bronco9798]

The Liberators are moving in.......

[Jody]

Boring.....:D:rolleyes:

Predictable.:D

[Bronco9798]

hmmm...I missed that post that you say got deleted:confused:...can you post it
again?:laugh:

I need to get rid of my HA and that might do the trick.

It was in fun to MB, it really wasn't bad. I'll PM it to you. I took an article from mens health and kind of made some humor with it.

[MOtorboat]

It was in fun to MB, it really wasn't bad. I'll PM it to you. I took an article from mens health and kind of made some hunor with it.

Absolutely nothing harmful or traumatizing to anyone, except maybe my sex life.

[KCL]

The Liberators are moving in.......

where are they?:confused:

[KCL]

It was in fun to MB, it really wasn't bad. I'll PM it to you. I took an article from mens health and kind of made some humor with it.

okie dokie....:D

[Bronco9798]

Predictable.:D

Jody, you know it wasn't that bad and it was in humor. I mean, masturbation is a not a bad thing. And to add a little humor in this partricular forum, it wasn't really that bad.

[KCL]

Absolutely nothing harmful or traumatizing to anyone, except maybe my sex life.

well at least you have your gee-tar!:cool:

[frauschieze]

I learned last night that to speak of facial hair and thighs in the same post is obscene.




Crap. I did it again.

[MOtorboat]

well at least you have your gee-tar!:cool:

Apparently, we're not allowed to talk about the rest of it...

[Jody]

Jody, you know it wasn't that bad and it was in humor. I mean, masturbation is a not a bad thing. And to add a little humor in this partricular forum, it wasn't really that bad.


By who's standards? Yours, mine, or the mods?

Seeing this thread of yours, I feel like I should get a kleenx out and wipe your nose. :rolleyes:

[Broncospsycho77]

I learned last night that to speak of facial hair and thighs in the same post is obscene.




Crap. I did it again.

Post reported. It was obscene. :confused::confused::confused:

[Bronco9798]

By who's standards? Yours, mine, or the mods?

Seeing this thread of yours, I feel like I should get a kleenx out and wipe your nose. :rolleyes:

Yours and mine. You can't be that humorless, please.

[Bronco9798]

I learned last night that to speak of facial hair and thighs in the same post is obscene.




Crap. I did it again.

Cheesy, I reported one of your posts today just to see what it felt like. :D

[frauschieze]

May I ask you ladies a question?

You say that Niner is unapproachable and that I can see. He's harmless but it took me quite a while to realize that. I had a post reported and deleted as well last night in the same thread. I would have gladly edited my post to removed the reference that was obscene if someone had asked, even though I don't think it was obscene. Do I seem unapproachable?

I'm just curious.

[Bronco9798]

By who's standards? Yours, mine, or the mods?

Seeing this thread of yours, I feel like I should get a kleenx out and wipe your nose. :rolleyes:
At least it's in the proper forum. Isn't this what this forum is for? True.

[Jody]

May I ask you ladies a question?

You say that Niner is unapproachable and that I can see. He's harmless but it took me quite a while to realize that. I had a post reported and deleted as well last night in the same thread. I would have gladly edited my post to removed the reference that was obscene if someone had asked, even though I don't think it was obscene. Do I seem unapproachable?

I'm just curious.


No, you are approachable, to me anyhow, Frau. And it was not I that reported your post. However, whenever I personally post something 'iffy'....I just accept the fact it may get deleted. I do NOT make pitty pot threads, and this is the problem I have with this thread. It takes away from the board, it doesn't accomplish jack.

[frauschieze]

Cheesy, I reported one of your posts today just to see what it felt like. :D

How was it? Did you enjoy it?

Here, I called someone out on a verbal attack yesterday, gave him a chance to edit or delete his post. The whole mess got deleted.....

[Bronco9798]

How was it? Did you enjoy it?

Here, I called someone out on a verbal attack yesterday, gave him a chance to edit or delete his post. The whole mess got deleted.....

Yes, it felt good. When the little snitch button went in and it sent, I almost exploded. I undestand why they do it now.....

[Jody]

At least it's in the proper forum. Isn't this what this forum is for? True.

I'm confused....

In one thread you write about masturbation. Now you write about "proper"?
This is what I'm talking about. How in the world can you expect mods or tned to decifer who you are as a poster and your intentions, when you contradict yourself in this manner....repeatedly so.

Humor I have lots of it, and many friends on this board who would agree with me on that, but I don't feel a lot of toleration for a grown man not to understand how to define obscene. Threads like this are simply for attention, and I'm here to say I don't agree with your take on this board, I don't agree that you incite more arguments between long-time posters/friends, and I don't agree that you care about this board in any way, shape, or form.

[frauschieze]

No, you are approachable, to me anyhow, Frau. And it was not I that reported your post. However, whenever I personally post something 'iffy'....I just accept the fact it may get deleted. I do NOT make pitty pot threads, and this is the problem I have with this thread. It takes away from the board, it doesn't accomplish jack.

I don't care that it got deleted. Should have been edited instead of deleted but meh, whatev.

For the record, I think facial hair is highly attractive. :beer:

[KCL]

Apparently, we're not allowed to talk about the rest of it...

you mean the picks...its okay...you can talk about the picks...;)

[KCL]

Yours and mine. You can't be that humorless, please.

she isn't...just get a little bit of wine in her and get her posting with me
and all is well...:cool:

[Bronco9798]

I'm confused....

In one thread you write about masturbation. Now you write about "proper"?
This is what I'm talking about. How in the world can you expect mods or tned to decifer who you are as a poster and your intentions, when you contradict yourself in this manner....repeatedly so.

Humor I have lots of it, and many friends on this board who would agree with me on that, but I don't feel a lot of toleration for a grown man not to understand how to define obscene. Threads like this are simply for attention, and I'm here to say I don't agree with your take on this board, I don't agree that you incite more arguments between long-time posters/friends, and I don't agree that you care about this board in any way, shape, or form.

Oh you're entitled to your opinion. I like the board, I like the people, I like posting here. Do I personally care if you believe that, lord no dear. When I sign out and move on I could less about this board. When I sign back in, I like it. Hell, I like you. Do I look for attention. No, I'm not an attention *****. I do like getting reactions from people like you though, I get a good laugh sometimes. I like to talk Bronco football upstairs and come down here and have some fun. I actually like making moralists like you react. I get a good laugh out of it sometimes. :D:elefant:

[Bronco9798]

I don't care that it got deleted. Should have been edited instead of deleted but meh, whatev.

For the record, I think facial hair is highly attractive. :beer:

And it, never mind......:D

[KCL]

May I ask you ladies a question?

You say that Niner is unapproachable and that I can see. He's harmless but it took me quite a while to realize that. I had a post reported and deleted as well last night in the same thread. I would have gladly edited my post to removed the reference that was obscene if someone had asked, even though I don't think it was obscene. Do I seem unapproachable?

I'm just curious.

Who are you directing this at?

[schnooks1]

May I ask you ladies a question?

You say that Niner is unapproachable and that I can see. He's harmless but it took me quite a while to realize that. I had a post reported and deleted as well last night in the same thread. I would have gladly edited my post to removed the reference that was obscene if someone had asked, even though I don't think it was obscene. Do I seem unapproachable?

I'm just curious.

You are approachable...

If I had an issue with you or anyone here I would take it to you! I am a big girl and can hold my own so no need to tattle in my book!

[MOtorboat]

I'm confused....

In one thread you write about masturbation. Now you write about "proper"?
This is what I'm talking about. How in the world can you expect mods or tned to decifer who you are as a poster and your intentions, when you contradict yourself in this manner....repeatedly so.

Humor I have lots of it, and many friends on this board who would agree with me on that, but I don't feel a lot of toleration for a grown man not to understand how to define obscene. Threads like this are simply for attention, and I'm here to say I don't agree with your take on this board, I don't agree that you incite more arguments between long-time posters/friends, and I don't agree that you care about this board in any way, shape, or form.

I'm sorry, but none of us in that thread felt it was obscene. So saying you have no toleration for a "grown man not to understand how to define obscene," is an interesting statement. He certainly didn't post a how-to manual with pictures. He stated a fact discussed in Men's Health that helps create a healthy sex life...I'm failing to see how this is really that obscene...

[KCL]

No, you are approachable, to me anyhow, Frau. And it was not I that reported your post. However, whenever I personally post something 'iffy'....I just accept the fact it may get deleted. I do NOT make pitty pot threads, and this is the problem I have with this thread. It takes away from the board, it doesn't accomplish jack.

Believe me...I have had some posts deleted.:tsk:

but it was Jody's fault that I even made a post like that.;)

[Jody]

Oh you're entitled to your opinion. I like the board, I like the people, I like posting here. Do I personally care if you believe that, lord no dear. When I sign out and move on I could less about this board. When I sign back in, I like it. Hell, I like you. Do I look for attention. No, I'm not an attention *****. I do like getting reactions from people like you though, I get a good laugh sometimes. I like to talk Bronco football upstairs and come down here and have some fun. I actually like making moralists like you react. I get a good laugh out of it sometimes. :D:elefant:

A moralist? Perhaps just an adult. You make a thread like this 'judging' this board and the "snitch" who reported you. You made my point.

[Jody]

I'm sorry, but none of us in that thread felt it was obscene. So saying you have no toleration for a "grown man not to understand how to define obscene," is an interesting statement. He certainly didn't post a how-to manual with pictures. He stated a fact discussed in Men's Health that helps create a healthy sex life...I'm failing to see how this is really that obscene...

What you are failing to see is this, simply so....

1. COC rules apply to all, not just to you on this board.
2. Mods have the discretion to delete posts that are defined as obscene.
3. Maybe you should join a Playgirl message board, so you can have your cake and eat it too.

:D

[Jody]

Believe me...I have had some posts deleted.:tsk:

but it was Jody's fault that I even made a post like that.;)

This is true, and I too have had posts deleted because of you, and did not take offense, expected it was possible. :D

[Tned]

What is an obscene post? Is it someone's personal opinion. Is it something where you have **** ***** ******* all over the page cause it is obscene. Is it full of dirty words. When a person reports an obscene posts, what does that mean. How can it be obscene if none of the words are **** *** ***** *** out. The post I'm referring to contained no foul words, it was nothing really bad in my opinion. I guess I didn't know that masturbation was viewed as being obscene.

Why can't people that run around here all offended leave you a PM when they think you have left an obscene post.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not bitching, I'm just curious.

Good question. What the mods are using right now, becauase we don't have any clear definition, is network TV. If it isn't allowed on primetmied network TV (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX 7-10 pm central) than it isn't allowed here.

I am not saying that should be the final word, but that "is" the interpretation guideline they are supposed to be using now because it is so hard to define 'obscene'.

Because this, like many of our rules, were pretty vague and put together in a rush when we started the board, we have been reviewing them. We attempted to start that with the general rules discussion thread, but that wandered all over the place, which is why we broke off the profanity/acronym discussion into it's own discussion and then modified the rules based on that.

Now, I think there are a few other discussions that need to take place, and I planeed/plan to start a couple of them today. I won't pre-empt them now. l haven't read this thread yet, but will do so now, but wanted to explain what our mods are currently using as a guideline.

[KCL]

What you are failing to see is this, simply so....

1. COC rules apply to all, not just to you on this board.
2. Mods have the discretion to delete posts that are defined as obscene.
3. Maybe you should join a Playgirl message board, so you can have your cake and eat it too.

:D

I have to agree here...we all see things differently at times but if the mods
feel the need to delete or edit...so be it.

This board may not be as "loose" as the Freak was...need to keep in mind
this isn't the freak.

There is the CoC in place for a reason and it doesn't matter if anyone here
agrees with it or not.Take it or leave it.Simple as that.

Like I stated earlier...I have had some of my post deleted.

[frauschieze]

Who are you directing this at?

You and Jody and Shnooks because you three were in the thread.

Am I approachable, KCL?

:elefant:

[MOtorboat]

What you are failing to see is this, simply so....

1. COC rules apply to all, not just to you on this board.
2. Mods have the discretion to delete posts that are defined as obscene.
3. Maybe you should join a Playgirl message board, so you can have your cake and eat it too.

:D

Good lord. Discussing or posting something in Men's Health is hardly a Playboy message board. That's just a ridiculous comparison.

[Mike]

I will say that the approachability of a person does not weigh into it. Most of the time it is more expedient for me to just make the modification and move on. I don't mind doing that. I prefer not to delete an entire post if I can help it. Eh...in any case, I usually just edit the post or delete it if necessary and don't get upset about it. If I notice that it is becoming a trend with a certain poster I will send a PM.

Now, I will usually send a PM for a personal attack, harrassment, or baiting posts.

[frauschieze]

I will say that the approachability of a person does not weigh into it. Most of the time it is more expedient for me to just make the modification and move on. I don't mind doing that. I prefer not to delete an entire post if I can help it. Eh...in any case, I usually just edit the post or delete it if necessary and don't get upset about it. If I notice that it is becoming a trend with a certain poster I will send a PM.

Now, I will usually send a PM for a personal attack, harrassment, or baiting posts.

Definitely understandable. I would prefer a post edited vs deleted but you guys are just doing your jobs. I got no beef with that. As for the approachability thing, I was just curious.

[MOtorboat]

I will say that the approachability of a person does not weigh into it. Most of the time it is more expedient for me to just make the modification and move on. I don't mind doing that. I prefer not to delete an entire post if I can help it. Eh...in any case, I usually just edit the post or delete it if necessary and don't get upset about it. If I notice that it is becoming a trend with a certain poster I will send a PM.

Now, I will usually send a PM for a personal attack, harrassment, or baiting posts.

I think the person should be notified if their post was deleted. And told why it was deleted. If this thread hadn't been started, I may never have even noticed that that conversation was gone, and that that conversation is apparently not appropriate. I follow the rules, I guess I'll be more careful when it comes to discussing anything related to sex.

[KCL]

You and Jody and Shnooks because you three were in the thread.

Am I approachable, KCL?

:elefant:

I give up...are you?

[Mike]

Definitely understandable. I would prefer a post edited vs deleted but you guys are just doing your jobs. I got no beef with that. As for the approachability thing, I was just curious.

I agree. The only time I choose to delete is when the post is unsavable.


I think the person should be notified if their post was deleted. And told why it was deleted. If this thread hadn't been started, I may never have even noticed that that conversation was gone, and that that conversation is apparently not appropriate. I follow the rules, I guess I'll be more careful when it comes to discussing anything related to sex.

That is good input. I will try and send a PM from now on.

So all ya'll remember, when I send a PM to you saying I deleted your post don't be getting all pissy with me. ;)

[KCL]

May I ask you ladies a question?

You say that Niner is unapproachable and that I can see. He's harmless but it took me quite a while to realize that. I had a post reported and deleted as well last night in the same thread. I would have gladly edited my post to removed the reference that was obscene if someone had asked, even though I don't think it was obscene. Do I seem unapproachable?

I'm just curious.

BTW-Did I say that niner was unapproachable?

[frauschieze]

I give up...are you?

You, my dear lady, are cracking me up. Kudos. :salute:

BTW, I'm going to take that as a yes. :elefant:

[frauschieze]

BTW-Did I say that niner was unapproachable?

I think it was Jody. I don't remember. :confused:

[KCL]

I think it was Jody. I don't remember. :confused:

yes it was Jody.I don't think I have ever tried to
approach him...:confused: :noidea:

[frauschieze]

yes it was Jody.I don't think I have ever tried to
approach him...:confused: :noidea:

I don't recommend it. He's a cranky, old prison guard. :elefant:

[schnooks1]

I don't recommend it. He's a cranky, old prison guard. :elefant:

Well now that gives me a whole new light on him!!! :lol:

[Tned]

Ok, here's a few things for people to think about:


Thats why there are separate forums set up within this site. Fans can only say so much about one team, or even one sport.

If its in a lounge are then I think it is PG-13 at the minimum. And who knows more than 13 year olds about masturbation? Besides MB, I cannot think of anyone.

Actually, that isn't why there are multiple forums. I think on broncosfreak, the lounge was more of a wide open, anything goes forum, but that wasn't the case on ABF (mania) where most of us came from, or how the "whats on you mind -- lounge) has been used for here.


I'm far from upset. BTW, this wasn't in the sports forum. This isn't a football board in this particular section. Just letting you know. I looked and couldn't find any football threads in that particualar area I was referring to, sorry. BTW, you can find sex and masturbation articles in bookstores and grocery stores all throughout the world. Again, just letting you know.

Kind of like my answer above to Clay, here the rules apply the same to all. Also, when by football board, he was referring to the entire message board, Broncosforums, which is a football community. The rules have been applied the same to all forums even to the point that duck/smack has been modded as tightly as Broncos talk or any other forum. there have been some requests to allow more/less in certain forums, and that might change in the future. For instance, many feel that things that are deleted as 'personal attacks' should be allowed as 'fun smack' in the duck/smack forum.

See more about this in a Town Hall Discussion that will be started in the next hour or so, and then another that will be put up soon.


Well, I would just like to state that if the thread is about "What MB Should do Tonight," and the person doesn't expect a few off-color remarks, then they are kidding themselves.

Let's use some common sense, here. If it's in the "What's On Your Mind" forum on a Friday night with a poll about what I'm going to do tonight, it's going to have a few off-color, but not derogatory, or exceptionally lewd, comments. If you are easily offended, and want this to be a "football forum," then why are you in there reading that? Seriously? I guess it all comes down to the "You can't legislate common sense."

You might be right, but currently the rules don't support the concept that things in a "what should MB do tonight" thread should be more anything goes than in a 'religious' or 'broncos talk' thread. It might be that should change, but until it does, the mods are expected to apply the same rules to every forum, every thread.


When you go into a thread titled: Scientolgoy.. you expect religious wars but not Dr. Ruth!

I agree that there could be a thread that says.... anything goes *can be sexually explicit those with weak stomachs and strong morals stay out*

Then those that want to be carefree and moon the world can and there would be no reason to report anyone in a thread that warned you first!

See more about this in Town Hall Discussion that will be started in the next hour or so, baed on an on and off discussion the advisory board was having for a few weeks.



not demanding/complaining that tned changes everything to fit their personal needs. ;)[/B]

Jody, I appreciate the sentiment, but I have been dealing with some form of those demands for our four months now. Whether it be around what should or should not be allowed in pics/languages, whether or not to have a CP type system, and many other topics. While a lot of posters have just sat back and had fun, a vocal minority have been pushing hard for things they like or don't like since day one.

However, I think that is what should happen, I just would prefer the silent majority join into Town Hall discussions so we can evolve the board to represent what the community at large wants. Since over time the community will change, then so should the message board rules.


At least it's in the proper forum. Isn't this what this forum is for? True.

No, see my above comments. The broncosforums.com "what's on your mind" is not the anything goes that it seems the Broncosfreak's lounge was, so adding the (aka, the lounge) to the title might have confused things, and I will take responsibility for that. It was intended to point out where the general chit chat area was, since our forum titles are a bit cryptic.


Yes, it felt good. When the little snitch button went in and it sent, I almost exploded. I undestand why they do it now.....

FWIW, we have previously told people to hit the report button if something breaks the rules, since the mods can't see all, and it's better to get the mods involved to edit a post that breaks the rules (such as a personal attack) rather than having posters feel the need to start back and forth arguments/flame wars.

I think the reported post button is used here more than on the freak, but it comes from people saying, "how come you allow so and so, to do such and such, and we responded that we can't see everything, if someone breaks a rule, that is what the report button is for".

[broncogirl7]

I was in MB's thread last night and didn't think anything was wrong. Maybe the post in question was already deleted.

[KCL]

I don't recommend it. He's a cranky, old prison guard. :elefant:

Ah ha....so Jody was right!

[BeefStew25]

Mods,

In the interest of public safety, Mizzou's masterbation habits is not so much a sexual health issue as it is a crime prevention one. Mizzou is on record as agreeing with this.

[MOtorboat]

Mods,

In the interest of public safety, Mizzou's masterbation habits is not so much a sexual health issue as it is a crime prevention one. Mizzou is on record as agreeing with this.

I am :confused:

[Cleveland Rocks]

At least at Broncomania I can say Kung **.

We can't say Kung Fu?

Kung **

[Cleveland Rocks]

We can't say Kung Fu?

Kung **

Interesting....

If you use a period, question mark, or anything like that directly after it - it looks like you can.

[LordTrychon]

We can't say Kung Fu?

Kung **


Interesting....

If you use a period, question mark, or anything like that directly after it - it looks like you can.

Reported for skirting the filter....



:laugh:

[Cleveland Rocks]

Reported for skirting the filter....



:laugh:

Kung ** is not a "nasty" word.

Oh my god!
Cover your ears children - he said Kung **!!!! :eek:

[Mike]

Charlie, if you continue to skirt the profanity filter I will be forced to ban you. Regards.

J/K :D

[Tned]

Ok, new Town Hall Discussion on a new forum that people would have to proactively choose to join,

http://broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106606#post106606

[topscribe]

Mods,

In the interest of public safety, Mizzou's masterbation habits is not so much a sexual health issue as it is a crime prevention one. Mizzou is on record as agreeing with this.

:pound:

I'll remember that . . .

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[SR]

I would just like to be able to say Kung ** with out the ** being **.

[BeefStew25]

I would just like to be able to say Kung ** with out the ** being **.

You are Sofa King cool!

[Tned]

I would just like to be able to say Kung ** with out the ** being **.

Never thought I would see you parroting CR :laugh:

[SR]

You are Sofa King cool!

Sofa Kingdom. Is that bypassing the language filter?


Never thought I would see you parroting CR :laugh:

I detest you for saying that.

[Tned]

I detest you for saying that.

LOL, I know, but that's where you got that. It's kind of funny.

I'll take it out of the filter, and let the mods deal with the acronym, which isn't allowed.

[SR]

LOL, I know, but that's where you got that. It's kind of funny.

I'll take it out of the filter, and let the mods deal with the acronym, which isn't allowed.

Yesterday I was talking about wanting to go Kung Fu on someone and was astonished to see I couldn't say Kung Fu with out the Fu in Kung Fu being **. I just like the little stars. It brings a bit extra to the table. ****. ****. *****.

Sweet! I can say Kung Fu now! You da man!

[BroncoBJ]

:lol: @ people snitching. Yea I've always hated snitches. Whether it was in school or on a message board. Some people just like to complain and find a reason to whine about something. I dont got a problem with anything. You can cuss me out in a post if you want and I wouldn't care. :elefant: Oh well. Masterbation isn't offensive to me. Maybe we should filter it out? :eek:

[topscribe]

:lol: @ people snitching. Yea I've always hated snitches. Whether it was in school or on a message board. Some people just like to complain and find a reason to whine about something. I dont got a problem with anything. You can cuss me out in a post if you want and I wouldn't care. :elefant: Oh well. Masterbation isn't offensive to me. Maybe we should filter it out? :eek:

Snitch. That is a term intended to intimidate people from helping to maintain
control in a society. I guess some people think it is better for someone to just
grin and take any kind of beating their attackers want to dole out. That poses
quite an advantage for the attackers.

I don't mind snitching if it protects someone who needs protecting. I've done
it before, and I'll do it again.

Must be a generational thing. :coffee:

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[BroncoBJ]

Snitch. That is a term intended to intimidate people from helping to maintain
control in a society. I guess some people think it is better for someone to just
grin and take any kind of beating their attackers want to dole out. That poses
quite an advantage for the attackers.

I don't mind snitching if it protects someone who needs protecting. I've done
it before, and I'll do it again.

Must be a generational thing. :coffee:

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:lol: well if its really bad then I dont got a problem. But snitching just to snitch is dumb. Plus bad things happen to those that snitch. :eek: I never do anything bad so I dont have to worry about people snitching on me. :elefant:

[topscribe]

:lol: well if its really bad then I dont got a problem. But snitching just to snitch is dumb. Plus bad things happen to those that snitch. :eek: I never do anything bad so I dont have to worry about people snitching on me. :elefant:

"Bad things happen to those who snitch." I heard that a lot from inmates
when I worked in the prison system. I heard a lot about snitching from
students when I was a high school teacher.

I just have never heard it much from my peers: you know, adults. :noidea:



Don't get me wrong: I don't have much use for tattletales who can't mind
their own business in things that otherwise would be relatively unconsequential.
But if something needs to be reported, then by all means it should be reported.

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[SR]

As long as my drug smuggling ring doesn't get broken up, people can snitch all they want.

[Jody]

As long as my drug smuggling ring doesn't get broken up, people can snitch all they want.

Are you a snitcher, SR? Are you the one that turned in 9798?

*taps toes impatiently* Come clean now. :D

[Bronco9798]

"Bad things happen to those who snitch." I heard that a lot from inmates
when I worked in the prison system. I heard a lot about snitching from
students when I was a high school teacher.

I just have never heard it much from my peers: you know, adults. :noidea:



Don't get me wrong: I don't have much use for tattletales who can't mind
their own business in things that otherwise would be relatively unconsequential.
But if something needs to be reported, then by all means it should be reported.

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What prison system? I've been with the federal prison system for 23 years.

[Bronco9798]

Are you a snitcher, SR? Are you the one that turned in 9798?

*taps toes impatiently* Come clean now. :D

Ha,,you think it was him? I don't see SR as a snitch. :confused:

[Jody]

Ha,,you think it was him? I don't see SR as a snitch. :confused:

Not at all, we are old friends here, but 'just checking'.
The mood he's been in lately on this board is frightening. :D
Someone's got to give him a hard time outside of fighter pilots.;)

[Bronco9798]

Not at all, we are old friends here, but 'just checking'.
The mood he's been in lately on this board is frightening. :D
Someone's got to give him a hard time outside of fighter pilots.;)

He has been a bit of a rebel lately. Not that I would be a rebel or anything.

[Jody]

He has been a bit of a rebel lately. Not that I would be a rebel or anything.

You a rebel? Ha. We're working on that.:D

[SR]

Me? Snitch? Rebel? What are all of these things you speak of?


I'm just getting testy. Certain people here are starting to irritate the bageezus out of me. It's all good though. One month from today I'll be back in Texas with my son and getting wrecked after he goes to bed.

[Tned]

Me? Snitch? Rebel? What are all of these things you speak of?


I'm just getting testy. Certain people here are starting to irritate the bageezus out of me. It's all good though. One month from today I'll be back in Texas with my son and getting wrecked after he goes to bed.

We're all still figuring out how to run a message board. From admining to modding, we have bee learning on the job.

The big thing none of us should lose site of is that this should be an enjoyable place to spend. If everyone focus on having fun, but still respecting differences, I think in time everything else will work itselft out.

[Broncolingus]

This is an obscene post:

http://eclecticvisions.com/images/full/Xfactor.jpg

[Broncolingus]

So's this:

http://blogs.clevescene.com/cnotes/raiders%20fans.jpg

(...although, I love the 'mood' that they're expressing...ha!...)

[Broncolingus]

...and this:

http://www.bolttalk.com/gallery/albums/2006-Week%202%20Photos/normal_img8287yt7.jpg

[topscribe]

So's this:

http://blogs.clevescene.com/cnotes/raiders%20fans.jpg

Be expecting a corrective PM from me for this obscenity. :mad:

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[Broncolingus]

Be expecting a corrective PM from me for this obscenity. :mad:

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...sorry, boss...

[LordTrychon]

Be expecting a corrective PM from me for this obscenity. :mad:

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IP 'em Top!

:bolt:

[frauschieze]

...and this:

http://www.bolttalk.com/gallery/albums/2006-Week%202%20Photos/normal_img8287yt7.jpg

What the hell is the deal with the trumpet? That's just disturbing.

[Broncolingus]

What the hell is the deal with the trumpet? That's just disturbing.

..you saw American Pie 2 didn't ya?

...this one time, at Band Camp...