Titans may pursue Dinger after Chow firing

[nevcraw]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/15/titans-might-pursue-broncos-top-offensive-aide/

Titans will pursue Broncos' top offensive aide
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
Originally published 01:40 p.m., January 15, 2008
Updated 02:13 p.m., January 15, 2008


The Broncos have already replaced their defensive boss and now could be facing a search for one of their top offensive assistants.

With the Titans having fired Norm Chow as their offensive coordinator, Broncos assistant head coach/offense Mike Heimerdinger likely will be their first choice as a replacement.

Heimerdinger was the Titans' offensive coordinator for five seasons (2000-04), and Titans coach Jeff Fisher has told others he would pursue Heimerdinger if the opportunity arose.

The Titans are looking to further the development of quarterback Vince Young, and Heimerdinger was the Titans' offensive coordinator when Steve McNair shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.

As of this afternoon, the Titans had not formally asked permission to interview Heimerdinger, but paperwork is expected to be filed soon. A written request must be faxed to the Broncos and permission granted to interview an assistant coach who is under contract.

Fisher, a longtime friend of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, is expected to receive permission to speak to Heimerdinger.
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Any young WC offensive minds outthere? Not sure what they (Titans) would have to offer him to go back but I would not be too upset if he did leave. Could be a good opp. for shanny to find some new blood to add some wrinkles to his playbook.
Too bad his son is already locked up w/ Houston..

[slim]

From your keyboard to God's ears. :elefant:

[claymore]

Wow.......... I dont think Dinger fits our offense, but I hate the revolving door.

[G_Money]

Oh, please, make this happen.

Jeff Fisher is about to be my hero again. Not only did he pass on Cutler, AND recommend him to Shanahan strongly enough for Shanny to draft Cutler without having worked him out, but now he might remove what appears to be one of the main forces behind our stale play-calling.

I love you Jeff. Please take Dinger and be my Valentine.

~G

[slim]

I wonder who would replace him? Has Karl Dorrell signed anywhere?

[nevcraw]

I was hoping they would atleast bring him back as the WR's coach. Good call.

[G_Money]

The Easter Bunny?

The corpse of Cab Calloway?

Britney Spears fresh off a bender?

I really don't care. Well, that's not true, I do - but Dinger's been killin' me with his play-calling for 2 years now.

Last year I could blame it on a conspiracy to force Jake out. This year...there are no good excuses for this year.

Heck, I'd take Chow and call it an even swap. With a mobile pocket QB, some receivers and a top 10 running game, Norm could probably make a go of it.

It's hard to expect a guy to play a symphony when you've only given him a violin with one string.

~G

[fcspikeit]

What greater title could they give him, other then making him the head coach :confused:

He can't leave without getting a promotion right?

[Bronco4ever]

What greater title could they give him, other then making him the head coach :confused:

He can't leave without getting a promotion right?

I'm not sure. Ron Rivera left behind his DC position to become a linebackers coach. I've never heard that a coach has to be offered a higher position from another team for it to be done.

[nevcraw]

Rivera was fired, wasn't he?

[Fan in Exile]

What greater title could they give him, other then making him the head coach :confused:

He can't leave without getting a promotion right?

If it's for a promotion he can interview and leave without permission. If it isn't for a promotion then he has to get permission from the franchise that he is currently with before interviewing or leaving.

Sometimes they leave without a promotion because they think the other players will fit their system better, or because they like the other organization/coaching staff better, or even because of problems with their current place.

I do hope that Dinger will see the titans as a better fit for his talents and we can open things up.

[Bronco4ever]

Rivera was fired, wasn't he?

I was just looking now on Wikipedia, the source for all correct info, and it says his contract wasn't renewed. So I goofed on that one.

[fcspikeit]

I'm not sure. Ron Rivera left behind his DC position to become a linebackers coach. I've never heard that a coach has to be offered a higher position from another team for it to be done.

I believe Rivera was fired or his contract ran out.

There is a rule that says they have to be offering a promotion to talk to the coach without permission. It is to prevents teams from steeling other teams coaches.

That's why shanahan always gives them the titles of assistant head coach of the offense/defense. Instead of just calling them the offensive/defensive coordinators

[fcspikeit]

If it's for a promotion he can interview and leave without permission. If it isn't for a promotion then he has to get permission from the franchise that he is currently with before interviewing or leaving.

Sometimes they leave without a promotion because they think the other players will fit their system better, or because they like the other organization/coaching staff better, or even because of problems with their current place.

I do hope that Dinger will see the titans as a better fit for his talents and we can open things up.

That makes sense.

Beings they can't offer him a higher position they have to ask for permission. If they give them permission to talk to him then he can leave if he chooses too

[fcspikeit]

If it's for a promotion he can interview and leave without permission. If it isn't for a promotion then he has to get permission from the franchise that he is currently with before interviewing or leaving.

Sometimes they leave without a promotion because they think the other players will fit their system better, or because they like the other organization/coaching staff better, or even because of problems with their current place.

I do hope that Dinger will see the titans as a better fit for his talents and we can open things up.


If they give permission to talk to the coach, can he then leave if he chooses or does the team have to also give their permission for the coach to leave?

[MOtorboat]

I wonder who would replace him? Has Karl Dorrell signed anywhere?

Norm Chow...

[WARHORSE]

All I know is, can we get a draft pick???

[BigDaddyBronco]

Good move. Wait, what if they promote Dennison!

Good God I hope that doesn't happen.

[fcspikeit]

All I know is, can we get a draft pick???

I don't believe so, I read that the league outlawed the trading of picks for coaches. :tsk:

[TXBRONC]

What greater title could they give him, other then making him the head coach :confused:

He can't leave without getting a promotion right?

I'm sure he could leave for more money.

[Traveler]

RMN states Chan Gailey will be Shanny's choice if Dinger leaves.

[dogfish]

good, they can have him!



then hopefully shenanigans will do the right thing and make bobby turner the OC. . . he's earned the chance, and has been mentioned for several OC positions around the league the past year or two (green bay and miami, i think?). . . why not give him a try here? he's obviously familiar with everything we do, and shanhan likes having guys who can work with his system. . . turner is a good motivator and does a great job of teaching technique at the positional level, and those skills should translate well to the coordinator level. . . besides, we need to keep him around long enough to groom one more backfield beast for us. . .

[Tned]

Shanny needs to go back to calling plays, and get the team back on track. Right now he is building a team to his 'previous' offensive style, yet Heimerdinger/Dennison are running an offense not suited to the talent.

[fcspikeit]

I'm sure he could leave for more money.

If that were the case, teams would be steeling coaches all the time, by offering them more money.

No they have to get permission to even talk to the coach unless they are offering a "position" promotion.

[Fan in Exile]

If that were the case, teams would be steeling coaches all the time, by offering them more money.

No they have to get permission to even talk to the coach unless they are offering a "position" promotion.

Dinger does have a contract as well so he would have to in some way get permission to get out of his contract unless it is a promotion.

[slim]

good, they can have him!



then hopefully shenanigans will do the right thing and make bobby turner the OC. . . he's earned the chance, and has been mentioned for several OC positions around the league the past year or two (green bay and miami, i think?). . . why not give him a try here? he's obviously familiar with everything we do, and shanhan likes having guys who can work with his system. . . turner is a good motivator and does a great job of teaching technique at the positional level, and those skills should translate well to the coordinator level. . . besides, we need to keep him around long enough to groom one more backfield beast for us. . .

Good point. Turner does deserve first crack at it.

[fcspikeit]

Dinger does have a contract as well so he would have to in some way get permission to get out of his contract unless it is a promotion.

Right now he is assistant head coach of the offense. How can he get a promotion without becoming a head coach?

I think Shanahan might give him permission, other wise there would be no point in even letting him talk to Fisher.

However, I think we hold all the cards here, If we say no he can't go, he stays here.

Over on BM a guy was trying to make a case that getting more money is considered a promotion. I don't believe that to be the case. I am almost certain, it has to be a "position" promotion.

[Watchthemiddle]

Has Mike Martz been signed on anywhere?

[nevcraw]

The Titans want quarterback Vince Young to be all he can be in their offense.

And they would like Broncos assistant head coach/offense Mike Heimerdinger to help make that happen.

Heimerdinger, whose has been in his second stint with the Broncos as an assistant head coach/offense for the last two seasons, is the Titans top choice to replace Norm Chow. Chow was fired by the Titans this week as the team's offensive coordinator.

The Titans were set to ask permission to formally interview Heimerdinger for the job late Tuesday afternoon. A request to interview an assistant coach must be made in writing and permission granted before an interview can take place.

Because Heimerdinger is under contract, the Broncos must also agree for Heimerdinger to be interviewed.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, a long-time friend of Titans coach Jeff Fisher and a close friend of Heimerdinger's since the two were roommates at Eastern Illinois University, is expected to grant permission for Heimerdinger to be interviewed.

Neither Heimerdinger nor Fisher could be reached for comment Tuesday. Chow had been the Titans offensive coordinator since the start of the 2005 season.

The Titans are looking to advance Young's play. In his second season Young finished 26th in the league with a passer rating of 71.1 while throwing almost twice as many interceptions (17) in the regular season as touchdown passes (nine).

Heimerdinger was the Titans' offensive coordinator when Steve McNair had three of the top four passing seasons of his career, including in 2003 when McNair finished with a career-best 24 touchdowns, 100.4 passer rating and shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning.

A move, which is expected to be endorsed by Shanahan, would give Heimerdinger control over the Titans offense, including play-calling duties on gameday. For the Broncos Shanahan calls the majority of plays on gameday and heads up the offensive game-planning through the week as well.

The Broncos are expected to pursue Chan Gailey to replace Heimerdinger if a deal with the Titans is struck. Gailey, who was fired as Georgia Tech head coach this past season, has interviewed to be the 49ers offensive coordinator in recent weeks – Mike Martz was hired -- and drawn interest from the Chiefs and Rams as well for the position.

Gailey was a Broncos assistant coach – he coached special teams, tight ends, receivers, quarterbacks and was offensive coordinator as well during his tenure – for six seasons earlier in his career.

Heimerdinger is in his second stint with the Broncos having been the team's wide receivers coach 1995-99, a span that included the team's two Super Bowl victories.

The Broncos have already replaced their defensive boss in this offseason, promoting Bob Slowik to run the defense after former assistant head coach/defense Jim Bates resigned with two years remaining on his contract rather than take a position coaching the team's linebackers.

[hamrob]

Has Mike Martz been signed on anywhere?He signed with the niners I believe. I'm not sure he's our style offense type of coach anyway.

[nevcraw]

that's the updated version..
Gailey? eesh..

[Lonestar]

we all know that mikey runs to Offense it just gives him a scapegoat if he screws the pooch..

[tubby]

good, they can have him!



then hopefully shenanigans will do the right thing and make bobby turner the OC. . . he's earned the chance, and has been mentioned for several OC positions around the league the past year or two (green bay and miami, i think?). . . why not give him a try here? he's obviously familiar with everything we do, and shanhan likes having guys who can work with his system. . . turner is a good motivator and does a great job of teaching technique at the positional level, and those skills should translate well to the coordinator level. . . besides, we need to keep him around long enough to groom one more backfield beast for us. . .

Bobby Turner is a RB coach. Leave him alone and let him do what he does best. He has stated he doesn't want it anyway.

[tubby]

we all know that mikey runs to Offense it just gives him a scapegoat if he screws the pooch..

Which has never happened. Nor will it.

[slim]

Bobby Turner is a RB coach. Leave him alone and let him do what he does best. He has stated he doesn't want it anyway.

He did interview for the OC job in Miami last year. So, maybe he does want it?

[tubby]

He did interview for the OC job in Miami last year. So, maybe he does want it?

True, but that's just cause they asked. Notice he is still in Denver.

No, no, no. Let him focus on the tailbacks. It is not an issue of money either. We can pay him whatever we want.

[WARHORSE]

The Broncos are expected to pursue Chan Gailey to replace Heimerdinger if a deal with the Titans is struck.



What deal would that be? A draft pick deal????http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/warhorse001/bluesbrothers.gif

[fcspikeit]

What deal would that be? A draft pick deal????http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/warhorse001/bluesbrothers.gif

As I said once before, teams can no longer trade draft picks for coaches.

NFL nixes draft picks for coaches (http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml)


Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.
By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published January 17, 2003


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TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

Now such a deal is against league rules.

The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

McKay declined comment Thursday.

The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden.

Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.

Unless they changed the rule back, We can't get any picks for him :Cry:

[sneakers]

Titans, please take Dinger away!

[Lonestar]

other than his relationship with Jay he IMO is a total waste another yes boy for mikey. them being college roommates and all..

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Can we just swap OC's?? Chow can design and call plays with the best of em for pocket QB's. Wouldnt the Titans have to give something up since Himerdinger is the assistant head coach of the offense or whateva and hes not gettin promoted?? I dont know if it works that way with Coordinators or not though.

[MOtorboat]

The Broncos are expected to pursue Chan Gailey to replace Heimerdinger if a deal with the Titans is struck. Gailey, who was fired as Georgia Tech head coach this past season, has interviewed to be the 49ers offensive coordinator in recent weeks – Mike Martz was hired -- and drawn interest from the Chiefs and Rams as well for the position.

Gailey was a Broncos assistant coach – he coached special teams, tight ends, receivers, quarterbacks and was offensive coordinator as well during his tenure – for six seasons earlier in his career.

Well, let's hope the Titans and Dinger come to a quick decision, because Gailey was at Arrowhead twice in the last week...

[Mike]

Take him...the Broncos should even throw in a case of beer to sweeten the deal.

[HolyDiver]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/15/titans-might-pursue-broncos-top-offensive-aide/

Titans will pursue Broncos' top offensive aide
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
Originally published 01:40 p.m., January 15, 2008
Updated 02:13 p.m., January 15, 2008


The Broncos have already replaced their defensive boss and now could be facing a search for one of their top offensive assistants.

With the Titans having fired Norm Chow as their offensive coordinator, Broncos assistant head coach/offense Mike Heimerdinger likely will be their first choice as a replacement.

Heimerdinger was the Titans' offensive coordinator for five seasons (2000-04), and Titans coach Jeff Fisher has told others he would pursue Heimerdinger if the opportunity arose.

The Titans are looking to further the development of quarterback Vince Young, and Heimerdinger was the Titans' offensive coordinator when Steve McNair shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.

As of this afternoon, the Titans had not formally asked permission to interview Heimerdinger, but paperwork is expected to be filed soon. A written request must be faxed to the Broncos and permission granted to interview an assistant coach who is under contract.

Fisher, a longtime friend of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, is expected to receive permission to speak to Heimerdinger.
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Any young WC offensive minds outthere? Not sure what they (Titans) would have to offer him to go back but I would not be too upset if he did leave. Could be a good opp. for shanny to find some new blood to add some wrinkles to his playbook.
Too bad his son is already locked up w/ Houston..

I hope the Titans sign him.................I want Watson to be promoted to OC................but then what do we do with Dennison?

[Mike]

Good move. Wait, what if they promote Dennison!

Good God I hope that doesn't happen.

When it comes to Dennison all that I can think of is that he must possess some pretty damning photos.

[Medford Bronco]

Take him, I will drive him to the airport if it makes it happen :laugh:

[Mike]

The Broncos are expected to pursue Chan Gailey to replace Heimerdinger if a deal with the Titans is struck. Gailey, who was fired as Georgia Tech head coach this past season, has interviewed to be the 49ers offensive coordinator in recent weeks – Mike Martz was hired -- and drawn interest from the Chiefs and Rams as well for the position.

Gailey was a Broncos assistant coach – he coached special teams, tight ends, receivers, quarterbacks and was offensive coordinator as well during his tenure – for six seasons earlier in his career.

I don't know much about Gailey what are people's thoughts on him?

I can tell you this though, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Broncos considered bringing in Jim Fassel. I believe he succcessfully coached another stellar Bronco QB once upon a time.

[tubby]

I hope the Titans sign him.................I want Watson to be promoted to OC................but then what do we do with Dennison?

smh.

You've lost it.

[HolyDiver]

smh.

You've lost it.

I never liked the fact of Rick Dennison having anything to do with playcalling...............Hiemerdinder did nothing special..............Watson should be given a shot.

[tubby]

I never liked the fact of Rick Dennison having anything to do with playcalling...............Hiemerdinder did nothing special..............Watson should be given a shot.

Based on what?

[HolyDiver]

Based on what?

Based on him being an assistant for quite some time now..............and based on the fact he did pretty well with the Wide Receivers..............I just really don't like Hiemerdinger OR Dennison calling the plays.................So, based on that too. ..............There, three based on for ya.

[slim]

Based on him being an assistant for quite some time now..............and based on the fact he did pretty well with the Wide Receivers..............I just really don't like Hiemerdinger OR Dennison calling the plays.................So, based on that too. ..............There, three based on for ya.

What about Turner?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

We all know Shanny calls all the plays man. So does it matter who we bring in now?>

[MOtorboat]

We all know Shanny calls all the plays man. So does it matter who we bring in now?>

Then the offense wouldn't have changed when Kubiak left...

Shanahan manages and delegates for the most part, from what I've seen...

[HolyDiver]

What about Turner?

He wants to only coach Runningbacks..............

[Watchthemiddle]

Elway...Elway...Elway...Elway...

[slim]

He wants to only coach Runningbacks..............

Then why did he interview for the OC job in Miami last year?

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Then the offense wouldn't have changed when Kubiak left...

Shanahan manages and delegates for the most part, from what I've seen...

Yeah the offense changed because Plummer left........

[Watchthemiddle]

Yeah the offense changed because Plummer left........

I has gone down hill hasn't it.

Good point. :beer:

[slim]

The offense changed two years ago when plummer was still the starting QB.

[MOtorboat]

Yeah the offense changed because Plummer left........

Not really. It changed the year Kubiak left, but yeah, something like that...

[tubby]

Based on him being an assistant for quite some time now..............and based on the fact he did pretty well with the Wide Receivers..............I just really don't like Hiemerdinger OR Dennison calling the plays.................So, based on that too. ..............There, three based on for ya.

I am no fan of Dinger or especially Dennison. But I also think Shanahan has been calling all the plays since Kubiak left.

Maybe Watson can be given the title of OC? Who knows, currently he is an associate head coach.

[Watchthemiddle]

Maybe Dinger wants out?

After all, he might be the guy who puts in all the work on a weekly basis only to be kept quite during the game.

Heim has been successful before he got here by calling the plays. He comes here and the offense stumbles.

Same can be said about Bates. Successful until he gets here.

I see a trend

[BOSSHOGG30]

Gailey would be a good hire. Let's hope the Titans take Heimerdinger away.

[HolyDiver]

Gailey would be a good hire. Let's hope the Titans take Heimerdinger away.


Former Bronco coach too..............I think in the Reeves era. Around the same time as Fossil I think.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Broncos | Team grants permission Titans to interview Heimerdinger
Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:04:05 -0800

The Denver Broncos have announced they have granted permission for the Tennessee Titans to interview Broncos assistant head coach Mike Heimerdinger regarding their offensive coordinator job.

[NightTrainLayne]

Broncos | Team grants permission Titans to interview Heimerdinger
Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:04:05 -0800

The Denver Broncos have announced they have granted permission for the Tennessee Titans to interview Broncos assistant head coach Mike Heimerdinger regarding their offensive coordinator job.

Where do we sign up to help Dinger pack?

[BOSSHOGG30]

Where do we sign up to help Dinger pack?

You have to go to the Titan boards and talk about how great Dinger is a coach and that we will miss him. We all know that each organization views the forums before they make a move.

[NightTrainLayne]

You have to go to the Titan boards and talk about how great Dinger is a coach and that we will miss him. We all know that each organization views the forums before they make a move.

Oh. . in that case. What are we going to do without this guy! Without him our offense would have been really sad this year. :cool:

[MileHighWrath]

Oh. . in that case. What are we going to do without this guy! Without him our offense would have been really sad this year. :cool:

Not here NTL ... a titan board!

[MileHighWrath]

Do you think the texans will allow Shanny to talk to Kubiak about coming back to be the OC?

[NightTrainLayne]

Not here NTL ... a titan board!

But. ..they'll look here to find the "real scoop".

[MileHighWrath]

But. ..they'll look here to find the "real scoop".

Then we are doomed

[mclark]

I can't believe Hemmerdinger was scripting our first plays every game. Do you think MS is giving the offensive coordinator full rein to do whatever he wants?

[slim]

You have to go to the Titan boards and talk about how great Dinger is a coach and that we will miss him. We all know that each organization views the forums before they make a move.

If that were the case then Tony Hunt would be a Bronco.

[BOSSHOGG30]

If that were the case then Tony Hunt would be a Bronco.

No he wouldn't there was only like 2 or 3 people that liked him if I remember correctly.

Speaking of Tony Hunt... wonder what Philly wants for him? Walker for Hunt and a 6th rounder?

[Italianmobstr7]

Former Bronco coach too..............I think in the Reeves era. Around the same time as Fossil I think.

Nope. Gailey was our WR's coach from 1995-1999. He was with us for our Super Bowl years....

[Italianmobstr7]

No he wouldn't there was only like 2 or 3 people that liked him if I remember correctly.

Speaking of Tony Hunt... wonder what Philly wants for him? Walker for Hunt and a 6th rounder?

I'm one of those people. I still like Tony Hunt, and I still think that he would be a beast in Denver. Too bad he's stuck behind a couple guys in Philly. I think given the chance, he could be a good back in a zone-block scheme.

[dogfish]

Bobby Turner is a RB coach. Leave him alone and let him do what he does best. He has stated he doesn't want it anyway.


when did he say that?

[WARHORSE]

What about Turner?


I like Turner, but hes interviewed with a few teams. I think if he were able to handle, Shanny would have long ago given him a chance. Perhaps this is the year. They learn more as they go along.

[Watchthemiddle]

I just heard on ESPN that one of the reasons Dinger might be going to Ten is to help or better develop Young.

So if thats the case, who is going to develop Cutler?

Remember, Dinger is not only a OC, but also helps QB's.

If Cutler loses him, its another guy coming in to work with him next year.

So if this 07 was a rebuilding year, we are looking at the same thing in 08.

New defensive system...AGAIN,....and another OC to work with Cutler.

I say bring in Elway and call it good.

[nevcraw]

Nope. Gailey was our WR's coach from 1995-1999. He was with us for our Super Bowl years....

Gailey:1985-90 Denver Broncos(ST)
Was WR's coach in Pittsburg in the mid 90's before becoming their OC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Gailey

Dinger was the broncos WR's coach 1995 - 2000

[dogfish]

I just heard on ESPN that one of the reasons Dinger might be going to Ten is to help or better develop Young.

So if thats the case, who is going to develop Cutler?

Remember, Dinger is not only a OC, but also helps QB's.

If Cutler loses him, its another guy coming in to work with him next year.

So if this 07 was a rebuilding year, we are looking at the same thing in 08.

New defensive system...AGAIN,....and another OC to work with Cutler.

I say bring in Elway and call it good.


jay cutler's so cool he develops himself. . . . :cool:

[dogfish]

well, take gailey off the list-- the squaws just hired him. . . .

[Skinny]

Gimme Chow ...

[mclark]

I wonder if Norm Chow might find his way to Arizona to work with Leinert again.

[Watchthemiddle]

jay cutler's so cool he develops himself. . . . :cool:

Well he might have too.

What about getting the QB coach for Ravens...former CU head coach...developed Aikmen...name slips my mind..



Oh....Rick Neuheisel.

[Stargazer]

One down. I wonder how many OC will be canned because of Vince Young.

1. Norm Chow

[WARHORSE]

I think Dinger will help Young..........not!

Young is getting insecure, and thats not good. Every time I hear him hes saying stuff like, "I just hope my teamates still believe in me"

Although hes great at galvanizing the team, the kid needs to run more. Cause if they keep trying to make him a big time passer, theyre gonna kill im.

[dogfish]

Well he might have too.

What about getting the QB coach for Ravens...former CU head coach...developed Aikmen...name slips my mind..



Oh....Rick Neuheisel.


neweasel just took the head coaching job at UCLA. . . .

[dogfish]

I think Dinger will help Young..........not!

Young is getting insecure, and thats not good. Every time I hear him hes saying stuff like, "I just hope my teamates still believe in me"

Although hes great at galvanizing the team, the kid needs to run more. Cause if they keep trying to make him a big time passer, theyre gonna kill im.


i'm not so sure-- dinger did a great job with steve mcnair. . . in five years before dinger took over, mcnair only surpassed 60% completion % once, but he did it all five of the years dinger was the titans' OC, including a co-MVP season. . . everyone knew young was very raw coming out, but he did better than expected his first season and set the bar pretty high. . . i agree that they should let him run more, but i still think he can be developed into a solid passer and all-around very effective quarterback-- it's just going to take time, a process for which most people don't have the patience. . . really a topic for another thread, though. . . .

[MOtorboat]

i'm not so sure-- dinger did a great job with steve mcnair. . . in five years before dinger took over, mcnair only surpassed 60% completion % once, but he did it all five of the years dinger was the titans' OC, including a co-MVP season. . . everyone knew young was very raw coming out, but he did better than expected his first season and set the bar pretty high. . . i agree that they should let him run more, but i still think he can be developed into a solid passer and all-around very effective quarterback-- it's just going to take time, a process for which most people don't have the patience. . . really a topic for another thread, though. . . .

Maybe...Norm Chow was directly responsible for Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Ty Detmer, Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer and somewhat for Philip Rivers...and he wasn't able to do anything for VY...