Se la vie

[CoachChaz]

Maybe this comment belongs in the thread about making the rules (not that we really have that power as anyone from the Freak can attest based on recent happenings) and it's not a personal vendetta...just a viewpoint that will eventually affect others, if it hasn't already.

Inevitably, I will be banned from this site. So, before it happens, I just wanted to say that I appreciate those that understand the humor and sarcasm in some of my comments. For those of you that don't get it and insist on complaining about it, I do respect you, but also feel bad for you. I couldn't imagine a life where I got offended by everything I read or saw.

I enjoy this site very much, but ultimately it's just another conformist to unwritten social standards. Maybe it's a drawback of having an open mind to not be able to understand how 1 or 2 tightass complaintants out of 100 or so people are able to set the standards and the rules. If that statement offends you, then my point is proven.

So, I'm going to continue to be me and say the things I say and watch mods delete my posts no matter how commonly they are used in the real world and amongst us friends. Eventually, the warnings will turn into a banning. It's just a matter of time, so I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

If everyone really wants this site to be a home and a friendly place, we have to find a way to make it ours and decide what we appreciate and what we don't. If the standards here are going to be equalled to that of the FCC, then we are all screwed. The smug and easily offended portion of the gene pool will win agian.

[SR]

I enjoy this site very much, but ultimately it's just another conformist to unwritten social standards. Maybe it's a drawback of having an open mind to not be able to understand how 1 or 2 tightass complaintants out of 100 or so people are able to set the standards and the rules. If that statement offends you, then my point is proven.

So, I'm going to continue to be me and say the things I say and watch mods delete my posts no matter how commonly they are used in the real world and amongst us friends. Eventually, the warnings will turn into a banning. It's just a matter of time, so I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

If everyone really wants this site to be a home and a friendly place, we have to find a way to make it ours and decide what we appreciate and what we don't. If the standards here are going to be equalled to that of the FCC, then we are all screwed. The smug and easily offended portion of the gene pool will win agian.


My thoughts EXACTLY...but people seem to be so concerned about bringing in new members and concerned for the imaginary 13 year olds that post here to let us make this place home. Oh well.

[claymore]

My thoughts EXACTLY...but people seem to be so concerned about bringing in new members and concerned for the imaginary 13 year olds that post here to let us make this place home. Oh well.
If there are 13 year olds spending time on here they are losers. and will naver have sex, or friends, and probably be to shy and wtihdrawn to vote and be a productive member of society. So I say we dont take them into account.

As for the lounge, If anyone gets butt hurt, there is the back button. There is was one whiner that irritates the hell out of me Coach, and I would be happy if they learned to deal with it or went somewhere else.

[CoachChaz]

If there are 13 year olds spending time on here they are losers. and will naver have sex, or friends, and probably be to shy and wtihdrawn to vote and be a productive member of society. So I say we dont take them into account.

As for the lounge, If anyone gets butt hurt, there is the back button. There is was one whiner that irritates the hell out of me Coach, and I would be happy if they learned to deal with it or went somewhere else.

I say screw it. Every time I read ANYTHING that goes against what I believe and how I live my life, I'm reporting it and requesting the post be deleted. I'm sick and ******* tired of it only pertaining to posts of sexual nature.

[SR]

I'm sick of all of the touchy, sensitive, politically correct bull**** that goes on here. People need to grow a spine.

[claymore]

I say screw it. Every time I read ANYTHING that goes against what I believe and how I live my life, I'm reporting it and requesting the post be deleted. I'm sick and ******* tired of it only pertaining to posts of sexual nature.I got into trouble the other day to. Apparently me saying that I fell down while running and I broke my boner is bad. I think Zweems was the one that complained since he cant get one. :laugh:

[CoachChaz]

I used the term "fuq buddy" the other day and had that post deleted with an explanation that there was a difference between a girlfriend and a fuq buddy. Somehow, I knew that before I posted it. Otherwise, I might have said girlfriend. How the hell do you get offended by a term like that?

[claymore]

I used the term "fuq buddy" the other day and had that post deleted with an explanation that there was a difference between a girlfriend and a fuq buddy. Somehow, I knew that before I posted it. Otherwise, I might have said girlfriend. How the hell do you get offended by a term like that?
I would expect "fuq buddy" to get reported/deleted, but why the explanation on the difference? LMFAO.

[frauschieze]

I used the term "fuq buddy" the other day and had that post deleted with an explanation that there was a difference between a girlfriend and a fuq buddy. Somehow, I knew that before I posted it. Otherwise, I might have said girlfriend. How the hell do you get offended by a term like that?

There's a difference between a **** buddy and a girlfriend? Why didn't anybody tell me?

[SR]

Girlfriend = potential future wife.

**** buddy = call when horny, no risk of marriage.

It's nearly perfect.

[CoachChaz]

Apparently some people refuse to admit that those types of buddies exist.

[SR]

Apparently some people refuse to admit that those types of buddies exist.

Well, those people either live very sheltered lives or have one themselves and decide to deny the fact that they don't know what they are so that their snoopy wife/husband who browses this website from time to time doesn't get any ideas. :coffee:

[frauschieze]

Girlfriend = potential future wife.

**** buddy = call when horny, no risk of marriage.

It's nearly perfect.

I was only kidding.

On an unrelated note, my old standby **** buddy went and got himself a girlfriend. Can you believe the nerve of some people?

[SR]

I was only kidding.

On an unrelated note, my old standby **** buddy went and got himself a girlfriend. Can you believe the nerve of some people?

That's a bunch of BS right there.

[claymore]

I was only kidding.

On an unrelated note, my old standby **** buddy went and got himself a girlfriend. Can you believe the nerve of some people?
Thats just sick. :D

[frauschieze]

That's a bunch of BS right there.

Don't get me started. It'd be one thing if she was a good person and a good match for him. She's not even close.

[CoachChaz]

I'm not going to say anything. It'll only get deleted anyway

[claymore]

Don't get me started. It'd be one thing if she was a good person and a good match for him. She's not even close.
Nothing romances a guy away like a BJ. :welcome:

[frauschieze]

Nothing romances a guy away like a BJ. :welcome:

He, unlike me, has morals.

[SR]

Don't get me started. It'd be one thing if she was a good person and a good match for him. She's not even close.

Look. I'm only doing this because we're friends. But, I'll fill in as a temp of sorts if need be.

[DallasChief]

What's going on?

Am I about to be banned for my Jimmy Carter post?

[MOtorboat]

What's going on?

Am I about to be banned for my Jimmy Carter post?

Maybe so.

[frauschieze]

Look. I'm only doing this because we're friends. But, I'll fill in as a temp of sorts if need be.

I told myself the next one would have to be more 'geographically pleasing'. No offense.

[SR]

I told myself the next one would have to be more 'geographically pleasing'. No offense.

****. Well. Damnit.

[CoachChaz]

I told myself the next one would have to be more 'geographically pleasing'. No offense.

Unless of course he loves Jesus, plays guitar and knows how to macrame. Special sould like that should not be ignored. We need more Christian conformists like that around here anyway.

[claymore]

****. Well. Damnit.
I thought you were stationed in Montana :wink: :nudge:

[Skinny]

I just wanted to say that I appreciate those that understand the humor and sarcasm in some of my comments. For those of you that don't get it and insist on complaining about it, I do respect you, but also feel bad for you. I couldn't imagine a life where I got offended by everything I read or saw.

So, I'm going to continue to be me and say the things I say and watch mods delete my posts no matter how commonly they are used in the real world and amongst us friends. Eventually, the warnings will turn into a banning. It's just a matter of time, so I'll enjoy it while it lasts.It'll all work out in time i suppose Chaz. Alot us just have to get a feel for one anothers personality/charactor ... things like that take time. I always take posters post with a sense of humor first before anything else ... that's just me. And i respect each and every posters opinion the best that i can without coming across as a smart** or disrespectful, i try to anyways, i do respect others opinions. Rather we (all posters) agree or disagree is fine with me ... that's how it goes sometimes.

As long as people are willing to speak their minds and call it like they see it ... it's all good with me.

[CoachChaz]

It'll all work out in time i suppose Chaz. Alot us just have to get a feel for one anothers personality/charactor ... things like that take time. I always take posters post with a sense of humor first before anything else ... that's just me. And i respect each and every posters opinion the best that i can without coming across as a smart** or disrespectful, i try to anyways, i do respect others opinions. Rather we (all posters) agree or disagree is fine with me ... that's how it goes sometimes.

As long as people are willing to speak their minds and call it like they see it ... it's all good with me.

Disagreeing with me is fine. Ignoring me is fine. But not having the juevos to tell me you have a problem with something I say is pathetic.

[frauschieze]

I thought you were stationed in Montana :wink: :nudge:

There is an Air Force base three hours away.....:elefant:

[SR]

There is an Air Force base three hours away.....:elefant:

Yes there is. Malstrom AFB. They've got missiles there. :D

[claymore]

There is an Air Force base three hours away.....:elefant:Well, you need to get all hussied up and go take a gander.

[SR]

Hell. She may as well make a trip out to Dyess.

[Skinny]

Disagreeing with me is fine. Ignoring me is fine. But not having the juevos to tell me you have a problem with something I say is pathetic.
Tryed to give ya a MHS but i must spread ...

I feel ya ...

[frauschieze]

Yes there is. Malstrom AFB. They've got missiles there. :D

Yes. Yes, they do.


Well, you need to get all hussied up and go take a gander.

In a heartbeat. Great Falls is geographically pleasing enough, at least distance-wise. It is an ugly city, IMO.


Hell. She may as well make a trip out to Dyess.

WTF is Dyess? And where?

[SR]

In a heartbeat. Great Falls is geographically pleasing enough, at least distance-wise. It is an ugly city, IMO.



WTF is Dyess? And where?

I just looked at Great Falls on Google Maps. What a **** hole.

Dyess is the base I'm at...Abilene, TX.

[frauschieze]

I just looked at Great Falls on Google Maps. What a **** hole.

Dyess is the base I'm at...Abilene, TX.

I cannot live without mountains. Great Falls sucks. Did you look at my pretty town (or at least the area around it?)

Are there mountains near Abilene?

[SR]

There are mountains in Abilene....if you consider New Mexico to be Abilene. West Texas is as flat as Paris Hilton. There's some hills south and west of us, but that's it.

I don't remember the name of your pretty town.

[frauschieze]

Sucks for you then. No mountains=no Frau. It's screwed up but without mountains around, I feel exposed and vulnerable. Naked, but not in a good way.

I live in Missoula.

[Bronco9798]

I woke up to this, this morning. Don't feel bad.

I am growing tired of these juvenile personal dispersions.

You have already been warned of this. If this continues,
I will bring the Advisory Board in on it do discuss other
alternatives.

Sincerely,

- topscribe

[CoachChaz]

I woke up to this, this morning. Don't feel bad.

I am growing tired of these juvenile personal dispersions.

You have already been warned of this. If this continues,
I will bring the Advisory Board in on it do discuss other
alternatives.

Sincerely,

- topscribe

Advisory Board? What is that? A collection of FCC wannabes forcing the choices of the few onto the will of the many.

Ridiculous.

[frauschieze]

I woke up to this, this morning. Don't feel bad.

I am growing tired of these juvenile personal dispersions.

You have already been warned of this. If this continues,
I will bring the Advisory Board in on it do discuss other
alternatives.

Sincerely,

- topscribe

How did you get in trouble but I didn't?

[Bronco9798]

How did you get in trouble but I didn't?

Remember when I said CR is present everybody be good. Then i said he was sensitive.

Thats what I got mine for I guess. How silly is that.

[CoachChaz]

Remember when I said CR is present everybody be good. Then i said he was sensitive.

Thats what I got mine for I guess. How silly is that.

Completely. While there are benefits to joining a site in it's infancy...there are also obviously the drawbacks.

[frauschieze]

Remember when I said CR is present everybody be good. Then i said he was sensitive.

Thats what I got mine for I guess. How silly is that.

Exactly my point. I was playing along with you but I got nothing. Besides, you spoke nothing but the truth. Someone posts in the smack forum, says the Browns suck and he goes off. Retardiculous.

[Bronco9798]

Hell, I was just having fun. I never swore, never said anything to him directly, just messing around and did nothing out of the ordinary. I said he was sensitive. Cheesy saw it. It was nothing bad at all.

[Bronco9798]

Completely. While there are benefits to joining a site in it's infancy...there are also obviously the drawbacks.

A bunch of sensitive little whiny girls around here that go around and report posts cause they think they are greater than thou. Well then can go screw themselves for all I care. I never seen such nit picky crap in all my life.

[SR]

Retardiculous.

I like to say ricockulous.

[frauschieze]

Hell, I was just having fun. I never swore, never said anything to him directly, just messing around and did nothing out of the ordinary. I said he was sensitive. Cheesy saw it. It was nothing bad at all.

Tame stuff.

[frauschieze]

I like to say ricockulous.

Retardiculous in Canadian is Saskatchewhoa.

[claymore]

There are only a few, I wont name names for fear of bannings. We all know who they are. If we all put them on ignore, eventually they will go away.

[CoachChaz]

There are only a few, I wont name names for fear of bannings. We all know who they are. If we all put them on ignore, eventually they will go away.

My comments are never even directed towards anyone...at least not anyone that is offended. Bluntly stated...I know the Freaks never complained about anything I said. I'll leave it at that.

[SR]

We tried putting CR and Dream on ignore as groups at BM. It didn't work!

[CoachChaz]

Do you think Dream does the whining? Based on conversation I've had with "powers that be" I don't think "they" could care less if he left.

[SR]

Nah. Dream is usually a pretty stand up kid, despite what some people think. I've PM'ed with him on numerous occasions and even though he may have his head firmly wedged in his ass at times, he's not a coward.

[CoachChaz]

Nah. Dream is usually a pretty stand up kid, despite what some people think. I've PM'ed with him on numerous occasions and even though he may have his head firmly wedged in his ass at times, he's not a coward.

I didn't think so either. He can be annoying, but he is knowledgable and seems to know how to defend himself. I think it comes down to 2 people that I can think of.

[Bronco9798]

I didn't think so either. He can be annoying, but he is knowledgable and seems to know how to defend himself. I think it comes down to 2 people that I can think of.

I still cant understand how a MOD wouldn't read what I wrote and tell the person that reported what I wrote to tell them to quit being a crybaby. I don't get what I did was wrong in any way. I just said that CR dude was sensitive and not to him. That's it, nothing more and then moved on.

[SR]

I still cant understand how a MOD wouldn't read what I wrote and tell the person that reported what I wrote to tell them to quit being a crybaby. I don't get what I did was wrong in any way. I just said that CR dude was sensitive and not to him. That's it, nothing more and then moved on.

CR is sensitive.

[Bronco9798]

I think some people are pissed that we came over here. They don't want us here and so now they are trying to run some of us off. That's all I can think of. If somebody said I was sensitive in a post, BFD. It's nothing more than someones opinion of me. That's it, nothing more.

[Bronco9798]

CR is sensitive.

Careful......You might end up in front of the Advisory board. Is that like a court martial? Should I wear a coat and tie and get legal representation?

[SR]

I think some people are pissed that we came over here. They don't want us here and so now they are trying to run some of us off. That's all I can think of. If somebody said I was sensitive in a post, BFD. It's nothing more than someones opinion of me. That's it, nothing more.

Screw them. This board has gotten so much more fun and entertaining since you guys got here. I've got a new second best friend (Joe), someone to share my love for aviation with (beef), I've already seen one member's mammaries (sp?), met a couple of people who share my love for the best TV show on Earth (the Office), among other things. Y'all kick ass.

[Bronco9798]

I mean seriously, if I was hacking on somebody personally in a post and going back and forth with them and wouldn't shut up, I'd understand. But this crap that I got warned for goes way beyond that. I never directly said anything to the guy this time. It was BS, getting warned for that. Hell, Tred was in that thread he read it. Maybe he's the one that reported it, who knows.

[frauschieze]

I mean seriously, if I was hacking on somebody personally in a post and going back and forth with them and wouldn't shut up, I'd understand. But this crap that I got warned for goes way beyond that. I never directly said anything to the guy this time. It was BS, getting warned for that. Hell, Tred was in that thread he read it. Maybe he's the one that reported it, who knows.

I don't think Tned had anything to do with it. Call it a hunch.

[NightTrainLayne]

Ahhh, everyone complaining about the moderation. . .Feels like home!

J/K:D:D:D

[MileHighWrath]

Not on the forums for the weekend and .... Wow what have I missed? I need to spend a little more time here and less trying to make money.

Go 9er! I think your autofire ***** (oops, should have known to type cat instead of *****) offends some of the mods or perhaps it is just that the freaks are, as a group, offensive to others.

IMO CR is too sensitive (way too sensitive) but I haven't run into dream much yet. Looking forward to it.

[DallasChief]

Screw them. This board has gotten so much more fun and entertaining since you guys got here. I've got a new second best friend (Joe), someone to share my love for aviation with (beef), I've already seen one member's mammaries (sp?), met a couple of people who share my love for the best TV show on Earth (the Office), among other things. Y'all kick ass.

WTF?!?! (can I say that now?)

Joe?!?

I have never.

[NightTrainLayne]

Not on the forums for the weekend and .... Wow what have I missed? I need to spend a little more time here and less trying to make money.

Go 9er! I think your autofire ***** (oops, should have known to type cat instead of *****) offends some of the mods or perhaps it is just that the freaks are, as a group, offensive to others.

IMO CR is too sensitive (way too sensitive) but I haven't run into dream much yet. Looking forward to it.

Indeed, I missed all the fun too. Could someone point me in the direction of the offensive thread?

[Bronco9798]

Hell, I don't know who the Mods are or these advisory people are. I know topscribe is something. He sent me my warning.

[MileHighWrath]

He warned me once too. Never been warned by anyone other than rick before, it's a wierd feeling.

[Bronco9798]

Oh well, I better get off this thread. I did enough damage. I'm sure my little reply box is going to be taking a vacation here soon. I'll come back a changed man.

[frauschieze]

Indeed, I missed all the fun too. Could someone point me in the direction of the offensive thread?

You'd be hard pressed to find it because you wouldn't think it was offensive. But I think most of it was in the Refugee and Say Anything threads.

[CoachChaz]

topscribe seems ok...tned really seems like he'd say the same things I do if he wasn't a mod...jwhiz is an alright guy...Carol, without any offense intended seems like the type that would easily take offense to things.

I don't know all these people all that well, but this is my assessment at the moment.

[SR]

WTF?!?! (can I say that now?)

Joe?!?

I have never.

LMAO! You're first, silly.

[SR]

topscribe seems ok...tned really seems like he'd say the same things I do if he wasn't a mod...jwhiz is an alright guy...Carol, without any offense intended seems like the type that would easily take offense to things.

I don't know all these people all that well, but this is my assessment at the moment.

tned isn't a mod. He's the admin. He's too laid back to report a post. He likes to post and mix it up just as much as we do.

[MileHighWrath]

Well if you do get banned 9er there's always bronco nation. I don't think they have the membership enrollment to be able to ban anyone. It's probably a free for all.

[Poet]

Honestly I do enjoy the fresh air of the New Freaks or where ever you guys came from. To be honest, some members on this MB will report you for just about anything. Some people are sensitive, and others have had a hard time dealing with the posting styles that you guys have. You guys have a more in your face poke fun at you style, but it appears to be in jest. To be even more honest, if you post a lot in the P and R forum, you will get reported a LOT.

[CoachChaz]

Honestly I do enjoy the fresh air of the New Freaks or where ever you guys came from. To be honest, some members on this MB will report you for just about anything. Some people are sensitive, and others have had a hard time dealing with the posting styles that you guys have. You guys have a more in your face poke fun at you style, but it appears to be in jest. To be even more honest, if you post a lot in the P and R forum, you will get reported a LOT.

I'm reporting EVERYTHING I see in the Religion thread that I don't agree with. My turn to be a *****.

[Bronco9798]

Honestly I do enjoy the fresh air of the New Freaks or where ever you guys came from. To be honest, some members on this MB will report you for just about anything. Some people are sensitive, and others have had a hard time dealing with the posting styles that you guys have. You guys have a more in your face poke fun at you style, but it appears to be in jest. To be even more honest, if you post a lot in the P and R forum, you will get reported a LOT.

You would think the MODS would take that in to consideration coming from one of the regulars here and tell them little sissy pukes to get over it and get a life.

[SR]

I'm a former mod here and don't even get my word taken in to consideration from anyone but tned...

[frauschieze]

This place is so much more serious than what I came from. It's overwhelmingly serious. I want to just post pink elephants in every thread. Just because most everyone needs to lighten up.

[Poet]

You would think the MODS would take that in to consideration coming from one of the regulars here and tell them little sissy pukes to get over it and get a life.

I agree to an extent. Honestly a lot of the guys from your site rubbed me the wrong way for a while. This is a community, a small site that is honestly great. You do have to take into account the personality of those who are posting, what I may say to you or SR would often time not be an insult. I like to give others who have tough skin hell in a joking way, and vice versa. If you take the same thing that I may say to you or SR or Davii, or Bengals188477992379 etc etc etc and I say it to someone mentioned in this thread earlier it would be an insult. Now, a lot of you guys came in guns blazing, which I can appreciate because I am the most reported person on this MB x10. Some people are sensitive. You guys will learn what you can say to some people and what you cannot say to some people. If someone is being a little baby, just put them on ignore and rock on.

[Poet]

I'm reporting EVERYTHING I see in the Religion thread that I don't agree with. My turn to be a *****.

I often have that feeling too. ;)

[CoachChaz]

I agree to an extent. Honestly a lot of the guys from your site rubbed me the wrong way for a while. This is a community, a small site that is honestly great. You do have to take into account the personality of those who are posting, what I may say to you or SR would often time not be an insult. I like to give others who have tough skin hell in a joking way, and vice versa. If you take the same thing that I may say to you or SR or Davii, or Bengals188477992379 etc etc etc and I say it to someone mentioned in this thread earlier it would be an insult. Now, a lot of you guys came in guns blazing, which I can appreciate because I am the most reported person on this MB x10. Some people are sensitive. You guys will learn what you can say to some people and what you cannot say to some people. If someone is being a little baby, just put them on ignore and rock on.

The hard part is most of the things that I get reported for aren't directed toward anyone in particular. Someone walks into a thread that they KNOW they will not enjoy and BAM...they get offended and we get in trouble.

Why the **** would they even create a thread about helping make rules and make comments that everyone's vote counts if they are just going to make their own rules to satify the minority.

[Mike]

First, speaking as a mod, banning has only been discussed for one board member and that person is not a former Freak. The Board Advisor’s are a group that exists to represent you, Coach Chaz. That means if you have a problem with the board or the way that it is being run then go to them. That does not mean that they will do whatever you ask, but they will listen to your grievance or view.

We also do not ban people just because they do not agree with us. Granted there are better ways than others to voice that opinion. Feel free to leave feedback though. I will also advocate for a person exercising their right to be heard (as long as they are respectful about how they do it).

If you know in advance that what you are doing is against the rules and will cause you to get banned then why proceed with that kind of behavior?

Second, speaking as a person...let me preface this with the comment that I am not easily offended. The way I see it is that your opinion does not affect the way that I live my life so why let it offend me? Having said that, why do we feel the need to be rude or uncivil towards people that we disagree with or the need to harass those people? Why feel the need to be crude? I don’t go into a public place and start using profanity or making crude remarks...why would I on a message board? Is it that difficult to have respect for others around us? Do you talk this way around your mother or grandmother?

Let me ask you this...why is it any different to want people to concede to your view, but it is not ok for them to ask that you concede to theirs?

[Poet]

The hard part is most of the things that I get reported for aren't directed toward anyone in particular. Someone walks into a thread that they KNOW they will not enjoy and BAM...they get offended and we get in trouble.

Why the **** would they even create a thread about helping make rules and make comments that everyone's vote counts if they are just going to make their own rules to satify the minority.

A lot of the majority want something that I don't think Tned really can do. But yeah man, I know from personal experience that there are some members on this site that almost look for a reason to report people.

But please read this. I know from personal experience that all the mods on this MB are great. They will work with you for the most part. Once they get a handle on who you are as an individual they will be able to help more. The mods often times take things into a case by case type deal. When they get a firm grasp on you, they will be able to tell when you are kidding, being legit, and when you (if ever) are being a jerk and deserve the reprimand. Right now I think they are living by the better safe than sorry mantra.

[CoachChaz]

Like I said, I've gotten along with all of the mods so far...except for Carol. Not that I don't get along with her, I just haven't had any dialogue with her to get to that point.

[MileHighWrath]

From "born again christian" to "Al Sharpton is right" I never know when or where to take you seriously. How can the mods tell any different.

I would hope that the first criteria for becoming a mod on any site/forum would be .. a GOOD sense of humor.

[CoachChaz]

First, speaking as a mod, banning has only been discussed for one board member and that person is not a former Freak. The Board Advisor’s are a group that exists to represent you, Coach Chaz. That means if you have a problem with the board or the way that it is being run then go to them. That does not mean that they will do whatever you ask, but they will listen to your grievance or view.

We also do not ban people just because they do not agree with us. Granted there are better ways than others to voice that opinion. Feel free to leave feedback though. I will also advocate for a person exercising their right to be heard (as long as they are respectful about how they do it).

If you know in advance that what you are doing is against the rules and will cause you to get banned then why proceed with that kind of behavior?

Second, speaking as a person...let me preface this with the comment that I am not easily offended. The way I see it is that your opinion does not affect the way that I live my life so why let it offend me? Having said that, why do we feel the need to be rude or uncivil towards people that we disagree with or the need to harass those people? Why feel the need to be crude? I don’t go into a public place and start using profanity or making crude remarks...why would I on a message board? Is it that difficult to have respect for others around us? Do you talk this way around your mother or grandmother?

Let me ask you this...why is it any different to want people to concede to your view, but it is not ok for them to ask that you concede to theirs?

I'm not asking anyone to concede to my opinions. If someone or the comments they make annoy me or if I don't want to read what they say, I will put them on ignore. That option is available for situations like this. You will NEVER get a complaint from me about another member unless you ask for it.

I can't force someone to ignore me...it's their choice. If they choose not to, then why should I be punished for their curiosity?

[CoachChaz]

From "born again christian" to "Al Sharpton is right" I never know when or where to take you seriously. How can the mods tell any different.

I would hope that the first criteria for becoming a mod on any site/forum would be .. a GOOD sense of humor.

No offense MHW, but what does a comment under my name have to do with the content of my posts? 99% of the time, my avatar, sig, etc. is a joke.

Like anyone else, if I confuse you or indult you with my demeanor here, please feel free to place me on ignore. I promise it will not hurt my feelings.

[SR]

I sure hope you don't indult me.

[CoachChaz]

I sure hope you don't indult me.

You better hope we never meet up anywhere or I'm going to indult the dog**** out of you

[topscribe]

Maybe this comment belongs in the thread about making the rules (not that we really have that power as anyone from the Freak can attest based on recent happenings) and it's not a personal vendetta...just a viewpoint that will eventually affect others, if it hasn't already.

Inevitably, I will be banned from this site. So, before it happens, I just wanted to say that I appreciate those that understand the humor and sarcasm in some of my comments. For those of you that don't get it and insist on complaining about it, I do respect you, but also feel bad for you. I couldn't imagine a life where I got offended by everything I read or saw.

I enjoy this site very much, but ultimately it's just another conformist to unwritten social standards. Maybe it's a drawback of having an open mind to not be able to understand how 1 or 2 tightass complaintants out of 100 or so people are able to set the standards and the rules. If that statement offends you, then my point is proven.

So, I'm going to continue to be me and say the things I say and watch mods delete my posts no matter how commonly they are used in the real world and amongst us friends. Eventually, the warnings will turn into a banning. It's just a matter of time, so I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

If everyone really wants this site to be a home and a friendly place, we have to find a way to make it ours and decide what we appreciate and what we don't. If the standards here are going to be equalled to that of the FCC, then we are all screwed. The smug and easily offended portion of the gene pool will win agian.

There is only one football message board in existence, that I know of, that
has an Advisory Board that exists solely to represent the posters in
general, and that seeks the opinions of the general posters before laying
down any rules . . . in other words, tries to accommodate what the
membership in general wants. And that is this one: BroncosForums.

Perhaps some people are more comforted with a board that is dictated by
one person: its owner. In that case, there are a lot of those around. We
just feel that most people would rather go with the wishes of most people.

It is apparent to us that what is taking the place on this board is indeed
the wishes of most of the people, according to those who chose to
contribute to the Town Hall discussions. To those who did not do so, there
is no way we could have any idea what your wishes are.

Nonetheless, the principle here, and what the Advisory Board has strived to
achieve, is the wishes of the majority out of 100, not one or two out of a
hundred. As I implied, if what the Board is doing does not comply with that
majority, then perhaps the majority ought to become more active in Town
Hall. Beyond that, well, what can I say?

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[tubby]

Coach, you will hang for this.

[SR]

It is apparent to us that what is taking the place on this board is indeed
the wishes of most of the people
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That's a bunch of BS. There were a minority who wanted all of the curse words censored and all the rest of the PC crap. But God forbid we don't do what they want for fear that they will take their 500 combined posts and leave!

[CoachChaz]

Coach, you will hang for this.

What else is new. I'm already crucified in the eyes of the mods and the masses. The noose is the only thing missing.

[Poet]

What else is new. I'm already crucified in the eyes of the mods and the masses. The noose is the only thing missing.

Not even true my friend. If I could redeem myself then you can too. The mods are forgiving and from the look of this thread some people have some love for the coach.:elefant:

[frauschieze]

Coach, you will hang for this.

The correct term is lynched.

[CoachChaz]

Not even true my friend. If I could redeem myself then you can too. The mods are forgiving and from the look of this thread some people have some love for the coach.:elefant:

I know who my friends are. Those that know what I'm about and when I'm joking can appreciate me.

[Poet]

The correct term is lynched.

HEY!!!!

Don't make Tigers Woods care even less about that word now!:D;)

[topscribe]

That's a bunch of BS. There were a minority who wanted all of the curse words censored and all the rest of the PC crap. But God forbid we don't do what they want for fear that they will take their 500 combined posts and leave!

Please do not take what I say and call it BS. I infer you are calling me a liar.

As I said, if the rules reflect the minority, then perhaps the majority ought to
become more active in voicing their opinions.

Nonetheless, if obscenities and profanities are so important to you, if they are
such a big part of your life, I know boards exist where you can curse and
swear all you want. :noidea:

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[MOtorboat]

Please do not take what I say and call it BS. I infer you are calling me a liar.

As I said, if the rules reflect the minority, then perhaps the majority ought to
become more active in voicing their opinions.

Nonetheless, if obscenities and profanities are so important to you, if they are
such a big part of your life, I know boards exist where you can curse and
swear all you want. :noidea:

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Maybe I need to read that thread again, but it seems to me the majority of posters in it really didn't think a lot should be censored.

For the record, I'm cool with you putting some **** on four letter words and all, because I know what they are, and I use them myself. Just don't put bans, or even warnings, on people for using words unless they are personal attacks.

[topscribe]

What else is new. I'm already crucified in the eyes of the mods and the masses. The noose is the only thing missing.

You know what? You are well liked here. I'm talking about by Mods. Your
knowledge and wit are appreciated.

When you are rebuked, just remember that the one writing this has been
rebuked more than once. Trust me. :heh:

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[Denver Native (Carol)]

What else is new. I'm already crucified in the eyes of the mods and the masses. The noose is the only thing missing.

No one is crucified in the eyes of the mods. A mod does not mod based on their personal feelings, views, etc., but mods in accordance with the rules/guidelines in place.

[topscribe]

Maybe I need to read that thread again, but it seems to me the majority of posters in it really didn't think a lot should be censored.

For the record, I'm cool with you putting some **** on four letter words and all, because I know what they are, and I use them myself. Just don't put bans, or even warnings, on people for using words unless they are personal attacks.

What is banned, the vast majority wanted banned. The Board did the numbers.
But, as I conveyed, that included only those who were interested enough to
take part in the discussions that were there for all to take part. The Board
could not take anyone else into consideration. How could they?

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[Ricky]

As a mod on the Freak, I know that several members feel that anytime they get a warning, they get their feelings hurt. A message from a mod will not be taken as constructive help. It is looked at as an attack.

[SR]

Please do not take what I say and call it BS. I infer you are calling me a liar.

As I said, if the rules reflect the minority, then perhaps the majority ought to
become more active in voicing their opinions.

Nonetheless, if obscenities and profanities are so important to you, if they are
such a big part of your life, I know boards exist where you can curse and
swear all you want. :noidea:

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That's how it's going to be? **** that. I'm out.

[frauschieze]

Good grief, guys. Chill. It's just the internet.

[DallasChief]

You think you've got it
Ohh, you think you've got it
But got it just don't get it
Til' there's nothing at all.
We stick together
Ohh, we stick together
But seperate's always better when there's feelings involved.
If what they say is "Nothing is forever".
Then what makes, then what makes, then what makes
then what makes, LOVE (Love exception)
So why you, why you, why you, why you, why you
Are we so in denial?
When you know we're not happy here.

Heyyyy Yaaaaaa.

[MileHighWrath]

No offense MHW, but what does a comment under my name have to do with the content of my posts? 99% of the time, my avatar, sig, etc. is a joke.

Like anyone else, if I confuse you or indult you with my demeanor here, please feel free to place me on ignore. I promise it will not hurt my feelings.

Actually coach I was trying to use your "comment under my name" and avatar(s) as an example of someone (you) that has a sense of humor and contrast it with those people (mods and others) that do NOT.

This is a perfect example of how difficult it can be to communicate sans voice inflection and/or body language, facial expression, etc to get your point across ... which is exactly why mods need to exercise serious discretion when judging what is and what is not something worthy of warning.

[MOtorboat]

What is banned, the vast majority wanted banned. The Board did the numbers.
But, as I conveyed, that included only those who were interested enough to
take part in the discussions that were there for all to take part. The Board
could not take anyone else into consideration. How could they?

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I'm not referring to the banned words. I'm referring to banning members. I think you misunderstood what I said. Unless it is a personal attack, there is absolutely no good reason to ban a member for using a word that shows up as **** or *******. I haven't seen that, don't expect to see it, but I'm going to be very disappointed if it happens.

[NightTrainLayne]

Good grief, guys. Chill. It's just the internet.

Just the internet!!! How dare you! This is my life!

:rolleyes:

[frauschieze]

Just the internet!!! How dare you! This is my life!

:rolleyes:

I'll tell you the same thing I have told another....

I'm sorry.

:laugh:

[topscribe]

I'm not referring to the banned words. I'm referring to banning members. I think you misunderstood what I said. Unless it is a personal attack, there is absolutely no good reason to ban a member for using a word that shows up as **** or *******. I haven't seen that, don't expect to see it, but I'm going to be very disappointed if it happens.

First, nobody has been banned yet from this board. So you are discussing an
issue that does not yet exist. However, the Board is presently discussing
what will be bannable.

Second, the rules state specifically that "It is allowed for a member to type
a censored word and let the profanity filter substitute **** for it. This will
be seen as the equivalent of beeping or bleeping out bad words on
TV/radio." So I don't understand your argument here at all.

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[Bronco9798]

Coach, don't make it so difficult. Just keep posting and move on. It's all cool man. I'm over it now. The MODS are pretty cool. They at least let you post your feelings and let you vent. We vented. Let's move on. It's not going to do any good to just keep bitching about it. I said what I had to say, I still disagree with the warning, but it is what it is. No big deal.

[MileHighWrath]

Coach, don't make it so difficult. Just keep posting and move on. It's all cool man. I'm over it now. The MODS are pretty cool. They at least let you post your feelings and let you vent. We vented. Let's move on. It's not going to do any good to just keep bitching about it. I said what I had to say, I still disagree with the warning, but it is what it is. No big deal.

Nice high road. How's the view from up there?

[slim]

Just the internet!!! How dare you! This is my life!

:rolleyes:

LMAO...NTL is on a roll. I guess the beefstew school of humor is really paying off.

[Bronco9798]

Nice high road. How's the view from up there?

LMAO...I just gave up. It isn't worth the hassles and stuff. I made my point, Coach has made his. What else can be accomplished? Nothing at all. I like it here, I'm just going to move on and do my thing.

[MOtorboat]

First, nobody has been banned yet from this board. So you are discussing an
issue that does not yet exist. However, the Board is presently discussing
what will be bannable.

Second, the rules state specifically that "It is allowed for a member to type
a censored word and let the profanity filter substitute **** for it. This will
be seen as the equivalent of beeping or bleeping out bad words on
TV/radio." So I don't understand your argument here at all.

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Is there somewhere I can voice my opinion on this?

[slim]

Everyone just calm down.

Coach, come closer and let me hold you. I will make everything OK.

[Bronco9798]

Is there somewhere I can voice my opinion on this?

MB, Let's just move on man.

[topscribe]

Is there somewhere I can voice my opinion on this?

Town Hall. Start a thread in Town Hall. That is partly what it is there for.

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[MOtorboat]

MB, Let's just move on man.

No worries. I found the thread. I've voiced my opinion already. Banning for using a **** word is absurd unless it's a personal attack. I've already stated it...

[MileHighWrath]

MB, Let's just move on man.

Aww come on ...this is fun ... let's keep going!

[MOtorboat]

Town Hall. Start a thread in Town Hall. That is partly what it is there for.

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Found the thread. I think I've made my opinion heard.

[Bronco9798]

MB, nobody got banned. We all have our boxes.

[MOtorboat]

MB, nobody got banned. We all have our boxes.

Can I make a box comment?

[topscribe]

Everyone just calm down.

Coach, come closer and let me hold you. I will make everything OK.

Why "calm down"? I don't see any flaming or anything like that here. I see a
discussion. Do you mean stop discussing, or what?

I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this and try to explain our position. :whoknows:

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[DallasChief]

MB, nobody got banned. We all have our boxes.

That's true, I just checked out Frau's box.

[MileHighWrath]

That's true, I just checked out Frau's box.

I like her jugs ... she has a box too? :elefant:

[CoachChaz]

As a mod on the Freak, I know that several members feel that anytime they get a warning, they get their feelings hurt. A message from a mod will not be taken as constructive help. It is looked at as an attack.

I know we've buried the hatchet on this Rick, but if you want to breach this subject, we can always use the experience me and cswil had with you as an example.

[DallasChief]

I like her jugs ... she has a box too? :elefant:

Oh yeah. Maybe if you're nice she'll show it to you.

[Ricky]

I know we've buried the hatchet on this Rick, but if you want to breach this subject, we can always use the experience me and cswil had with you as an example.

Yes Coach I can still feel the hatchet in my back (but I am trying to just stay on the lighter side now). Coach, you are a great source of knowledge, but I don't get why you like to go over the line sometimes.

[CoachChaz]

I'm not heated or angered and MHW, I apologize if I took your comment out of context.

My point is that if you don't want to have anything to do with a thread, just stay out of it instead of complaining about the content. The whole FCC comparison really bugs me because I don't think we can use that as a qualified standard for censorship. The only reason it exists is because some reverend in Mississippi sisn't like what he heard on the radio. Did he simply change the station? No, he complained about it to the powers that be and here we are.

[HolyDiver]

I know at the Freak, I always enjoyed a good banning..............It warmed my heart to see guys like Coach, cswil, 9798 and a few other banned on a regular basis...............I would really appreciate it, if you guys here at BroncosForums could do the same. ..........Please pm me before you do though, I want to be here when it happens.

[CoachChaz]

Yes Coach I can still feel the hatchet in my back (but I am trying to just stay on the lighter side now). Coach, you are a great source of knowledge, but I don't get why you like to go over the line sometimes.

Whose standards are we using and who says those standards reflect those of the majority?

[Ricky]

Whose standards are we using and who says those standards reflect those of the majority?


We both know that everyone has their own set of standards. I won't impose mine on you. But once a rule has been set, why not follow the intent of that rule?

[MileHighWrath]

No apology necessary coach.

I was always pro HD banning myself. In fact, I think one of the mods SHOULD ban HD just to make him feel at home, maybe once a week?

[Bronco9798]

I for one have enjoyed the board so far. The lounge should be a little less restrictive, but not an all out say what you want. The rules should be laxed in it a bit. If people know this in advance, then the little snitches will stay out and not be offended. It's sad that a bunch of little momma-boys should have the right to come in there and start reporting posts because they feel offended.

These little snitching misfits should avoid the threads they don't like and hitting the snitch button. If they are verbally attacked, then hit the snitch button. But if Coach says he had a FUQ buddy or whatever then that little snitch should just leave if they don't like it. Now if I was his fuq buddy and he said I was bad in the sack, then I'd be offended and I would report him. (just kidding)

My point is, if you don't like it, than leave the thread if you are not the target of a verbal lashing. Move on to something that fits your taste, like the knitting thread or the I'm holier than though thread. It's really sad that people actually have the nerve to hit that button without PM'ing the person that wrote if first. I think if your post is reported, you have the right to know who reported it and what the reason is they are reporting it.

[DallasChief]

No apology necessary coach.

I was always pro HD banning myself. In fact, I think one of the mods SHOULD ban HD just to make him feel at home, maybe once a week?

Don't ban HD. He complains about it for 2 years. :D

[Ricky]

No apology necessary coach.

I was always pro HD banning myself. In fact, I think one of the mods SHOULD ban HD just to make him feel at home, maybe once a week?

Doesn't his wife do that every weekend?

[HolyDiver]

No apology necessary coach.

I was always pro HD banning myself. In fact, I think one of the mods SHOULD ban HD just to make him feel at home, maybe once a week?

I went in to a recruiting office to sign up for the army...............The recruiter asked............have you ever been banned? ..................I said, banned? ............no, never banned.

[MOtorboat]

Don't ban HD. He complains about it for 2 years. :D

Yeah, he certainly holds a grudge like a woman, doesn't he...

[MileHighWrath]

I went in to a recruiting office to sign up for the army...............The recruiter asked............have you ever been banned? ..................I said, banned? ............no, never banned.

See I know that's not true because no way they let you near a recruiting office let alone IN one. nor would you ever, voluntarily, go into one.

[HolyDiver]

Yeah, he certainly holds a grudge like a woman, doesn't he...

MB, you're just upset you can't name the starting Orange Crush Defense without going to Broncos.com

[CoachChaz]

I for one have enjoyed the board so far. The lounge should be a little less restrictive, but not an all out say what you want. The rules should be laxed in it a bit. If people know this in advance, then the little snitches will stay out and not be offended. It's sad that a bunch of little momma-boys should have the right to come in there and start reporting posts because they feel offended.

These little snitching misfits should avoid the threads they don't like and hitting the snitch button. If they are verbally attacked, then hit the snitch button. But if Coach says he had a FUQ buddy or whatever then that little snitch should just leave if they don't like it. Now if I was his fuq buddy and he said I was bad in the sack, then I'd be offended and I would report him. (just kidding)

My point is, if you don't like it, than leave the thread if you are not the target of a verbal lashing. Move on to something that fits your taste, like the knitting thread or the I'm holier than though thread. It's really sad that people actually have the nerve to hit that button without PM'ing the person that wrote if first. I think if your post is reported, you have the right to know who reported it and what the reason is they are reporting it.

So much for keeping this a secret

[CoachChaz]

Can we have an AssMods office to serve as an Advisory committee?

[Bronco9798]

Ok, had my last say. I'm out of here!!! I feel better. Time to go have some lunch and run some errands.

[HolyDiver]

Ok, had my last say. I'm out of here!!! I feel better. Time to go have some lunch and run some errands.

No, I'm pretty sure you'll sit there for another 10 minutes and make, a minimum, 3 more posts.

[MOtorboat]

MB, you're just upset you can't name the starting Orange Crush Defense without going to Broncos.com

And I'm really butt-hurt about it too :rolleyes:

[CoachChaz]

I know this isn't town hall, but I hope the Mods take this stuff into consideration. The people involved in this thread don't represent the majority, but i think we come close to representing the majority of the posts. Seems to me that the new regulars here have made it clear this stuff doesn't offend them

[HolyDiver]

I know this isn't town hall, but I hope the Mods take this stuff into consideration. The people involved in this thread don't represent the majority, but i think we come close to representing the majority of the posts. Seems to me that the new regulars here have made it clear this stuff doesn't offend them


It only offends me when you say something that doesn't make sense..............So, Coach, you only offend me half the time.

[Ricky]

I know this isn't town hall, but I hope the Mods take this stuff into consideration. The people involved in this thread don't represent the majority, but i think we come close to representing the majority of the posts. Seems to me that the new regulars here have made it clear this stuff doesn't offend them

Kevin offends me.

[CoachChaz]

Kevin offends me.

I would ask if you've ever banned him, but I'm sure you have

[Ricky]

I would ask if you've ever banned him, but I'm sure you have

You would be right, but that is a long list if you want to know the truth.

[CoachChaz]

You would be right, but that is a long list if you want to know the truth.

I'm sure it was...but like I said...no grudges man. You apologized for your error in my banning and I'm cool. I know you did what you felt you needed to do.

[MOtorboat]

I'm sure it was...but like I said...no grudges man. You apologized for your error in my banning and I'm cool. I know you did what you felt you needed to do.

Can we ban Coach just for laughs...like for an hour...just to make him freak out. It would at least be entertaining...

[CoachChaz]

Can we ban Coach just for laughs...like for an hour...just to make him freak out. It would at least be entertaining...

Trust me...I would fully expect to be banned, but if you are going to do it...at least let me earn it.

[MOtorboat]

Trust me...I would fully expect to be banned, but if you are going to do it...at least let me earn it.

You think we can provoke HD...

[CoachChaz]

You think we can provoke HD...

He'd just cry

[HolyDiver]

You think we can provoke HD...

Doubtful, but give it a shot anyway.

[Tned]

Ok, I'm at work and it's a hectic day, so I don't have much time to spend here. However, I wanted to address a few things.

First, the advisory board. This is a group of seven members that make decisions for the message board much the way an owner or admin would on most message boards. Here is a brief history/explanation.

When I created this messageboard due to some fallout from some changes at mania, I decided that an internet community shouldn't be run as a dictatorship where one person made all the rules. So, even though I paid the startup costs, and paying the monthly bills and do the admin work, I made a committment not to make unilateral decisions.

Instead, we have created a group called the advisory board that is comprised of 7 members from the message board, including myself. Those seven members currenlty are (Tned, TXBronc, Kclady, dogfish, Kapaibro, Omac and MedfordBronco). This advisory board discusses and then votes on all changes to the forum. However, one thing to understand is that we don't just implement our ideas or opinions, we have all agreed (this was part of me giving up control of what I pay for each month) to make our decisions based on input from the general community, so that we do our very best to represent the wishes of the community at large.

In doing this, we have to weigh things like when it is clear that the community is 'split' on an issue, which direction will be best, or in some cases have the fewest negatives, for the message board. As an example, lets say that it looks like we have 50% of the people that wants points associated with Mile High Salutes, and 50% that don't. However, based on the Town Hall Discussions, it is clear that the 50% that want them feel points are good, but they don't post for points, blah, blah. Then, there is the 50% that are against points and they are completely against it because of the cliques they have seen on BM and other problems they raise.

In that case, we might look at it and say, the community is split, but the negatives associated with implementing points outweigh what ever positives there might be, so the board decides no points. This is just an example of what the advisory board has to weigh AFTER receiving input from the community via Town Hall threads.

As to the censored/disallowed words. One or two people in this thread have said we disregarded the majority of people that thought all the curse words were fine. That is simply untrue.

Of the people that responded in the Town Hall thread (that's all we can based our decisions on), 60% were against allowing the use of B!tch, 50%+ against allowing sh!t, and about 40% against wh@re and b@stard.

So, in the case of two of the four words, the majority of people didn't want them, and in the case of the other two, a slight majority did want them. The advisory board discussed all of this, read the feedback in the Town Hall thread and concluded that censoring those words, based on the input we received was the best thing for the message board.

With acronyms, it was a completely different story. All the acronyms received between 80-90% "ok" input from those that participated, with the exception of ****. In the end, after deliberating, we decided to allow all acronyms (of those discussed) except S T **, F U. Among the reasons for elminating s tfu and f u, was to make life easier on the mods, as these words while more offensive to some, also have a far greater liklyhood of being used as attacks.

So, do say we ignored what the minority wanted to make a couple people happy is a gross distortion of the truth. Instead, where things like WTF used to be edited from posts, it is now allowed, because the advisory board modified the rules and/or how the moderators should interpret them to be in line with the community wanted.

As I said when we launched this board. This 'advisory board' concept isn't perfect, and there will be times we get it wrong the first time, but if people participate in the process and give in put in the Town Hall discussions, then we can be sure to keep adapting the message board to meet what the members want.

You all should have seen the annoying " If you don't participate in forming the rules, don't complain about them" threads I spammed throughout the messageboard. This was a reminder to everyone that cares about what the rules are to participate in the Town Hall Discussions, because we (the advisory board) can only base our decisions on the input of people that aren't too damn lazy to participate.

I don't know how many other message boards are out there that are run this way, but none that I am a member of. We are doing our best to setup a message board that reflects the wishes and desires of the community, but that can only be accomplished if people participate in the Town Hall discussions.

As I said when I announced rules regarding acronyms and filtered words, anything we do here, whether it be a rule or forum feature, can be discussed in a town hall discussion and if through that discussion that the advisory board feels that the community at large wants something done, then we will do it, that is what our job is in terms of this message board. That doesn't mean that if 51% of the people want to allow f-bombs, we are doing to do it, because we may decide that the 49% that don't like it will be so upset it isn't in the best interests of the message board as a whole. This is one of the reaons we don't do straight polls, but instead require people to respond/discuss their position on issues.

Anyway, that is all the time I have now. I don't have time to proof or spell check, so pardon any major typing snafus.

[Tned]

By the way, here is the announcement that was made about 24 hours after the board was launched, that explains in 'high level' how I envisioned this community being run and reflecting the wishes of the members:


Please Read: Explanation of how BroncosForums.com will be managed

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One of the most common questions that has popped up in the first few days, since BroncosForums.com has come online, is what the conduct rules will be. I want to address that question, as well as some of the other questions that have been asked, such as will the forum have a CP or Reputation system.

I think the best way to address these questions is to first explain a little about BroncosForums.com and how I envision the forum’s policies and direction will be defined.

Just a little over 72 hours ago, a few of us started talking about what we did and didn’t like about other forums. We started talking about how great it would be if we had a forum where rules and forum features were decided by the active members, rather than an individual or company. A forum where there was no agenda, no need to have banner ads plastered all over the place, or for branding to take precedence over user’s wishes. A forum that was simply dedicated to creating a nice community for people that wanted to have fun talking about Broncos football or anything else they find interesting.

That discussion led to action. We started working on the mechanics of what it would take to put a forum up, setup the color scheme that we wanted, get a domain name and hosting account, etc. At the same time, we started to talk with other posters we felt would enjoy the kind of community we were proposing and were essentially following two parallel tracks. Track one was aimed at getting a jump start on purchasing forum software and configuring it; purchasing a domain name and getting it online. Track two was contacting like minded people to see if there would be enough interest to support a forum/community like we envisioned creating.

As you can now see, those parallel tracks converged only about 24 hours after we made the decision to ‘consider’ creating a new online forum, when BroncosForums.com came online for the first time midday on Monday the 27th of August.

I went through that brief history to help explain the motivation behind BroncosForums.com, and how we will manage the forums to try and create and maintain the type of community that we think can be great.

While I purchased the forum software and domain name, and will be paying the monthly hosting fees, I DO NOT intend to be the ‘admin’ making all decisions regarding the directions of this community. The community rules and direction will be determined by the community itself. I understand that this is an ambitious undertaking, but I feel it IS the way to create a great community that we will all enjoy being a part of.

So, since my name is on the line, I will step in on issues that could get me into legal or financial trouble, and I will handle the technical administration, but beyond that we are going to strive for being community driven.

The one ‘rule’ I will state that we must follow until we have a full set of rules or guidelines in place, is that since we have younger members on the forum, sexually explicit graphics and language will not be tolerated. For now, common sense needs to be used. If a ‘reasonable’ parent would not want their teenage child seeing a certain picture or reading material of a sexual nature, then don’t post it. If in the future, the ‘community’ decides this type of material is important, then we will need to put age checks in place during the registration process, and have the entire community, or selected forums, off limits to people under a certain age.

Now how do we become community driven, since anyone that has been in a meeting trying to reach consensus with 3 people and another with 15, knows that it is much harder to get consensus in a 15 person meeting than it is in a 3 person meeting.. So, how can we get 60, 80, 150 or even 500+ members to agree? That could be nearly impossible. So, this is how we will start the process, although I fully expect it to be refined over time. We have established an advisory board. This board will ultimately make the decisions on the direction (conduct rules, CP/reputation system, determining when the community needs additional moderators, defining a process for choosing moderators, forum feature changes, etc.) that the community will take. However, this advisory board will not simply implement their ideas and opinions, but strive to represent the community. Let me give a hypothetical example of the process that will typically happen when a decision needs to be made. The example we will use will be a reputation system or CP-like system.

One or more members propose an idea to implement a reputation system, where posters can give other posters points, and as you gain more points, you move up a rank ladder. Since this is proposed in the open forum, we’ll assume that there has been a fair amount of discussion by forum members on this subject, so that advisory board will now have a good feeling of the overall feeling of the ‘community’ on this subject. Hopefully, all members that felt strongly about it one way or another, have joined he discussions and given their input.

The advisory board will then begin internal discussions regarding implementing a reputation system, with the goal of representing what is best for the community based on the discussion that has taken place in the open forum. The advisory board will come to a decision, OR possibly come up with alternatives.

At that point, the decision or the alternatives will be put back out to the community for comment and further discussion. Following that further discussion, the process could repeat itself multiple times, or the advisory board will make a final decision which will be implemented.

Again, the goal of the advisory board will be to represent the ‘communities’ wishes. Will the advisory board always be capable of making everyone happy? Absolutely not, that is simply impossible. Take that reputation system, we might find that half of the forum members want it, and half don’t, and it will fall to the advisory board to take into account the pros and cons presented by the ‘community’ and ultimately make a decision that they believe both represents the desires of the community and is in the communities best interests.

Will the advisory board get it right every time? Again, absolutely not, there will be times that even with the best intentions, that we will make a wrong turn. However, I truly believe this is a better approach then having a single person making all the decisions for the community.

At this time, I would like to share with you the initial members of the advisory board. It is comprised of Denver Native (Carol), Topscribe, Jrwiz, The Dark Knight, -HW-, broncos_mtnman, and Tnedator. At this time no decision has been made as to whether the advisory board will always consist of seven members; how long members will remain on the board; or, how future members will be nominated/added to the advisory board. In time, that will all be established.

It is very possible that the way we manage the board could change drastically over time, or we may determine that this system is about as good as you can get when attempting to represent the wishes of an entire online community. Only time will tell, but we believe this is the best starting point. It, like everything on this community, is open for discussion/critique/suggestions from all members of the community.

At this time, I would like to thank Denver Native (Carol), Topscribe, Jrwiz, The Dark Knight, -HW- and broncos_mtnman for agreeing to dedicate their time to make this a great community, and to help create a community that all of us can truly call ‘our’ community or ‘our’ forums.

I would like to give additional thanks to Denver Native, Topscribe and Jrwiz for agreeing to take on the additional responsibility of being forum moderators during our startup phase.

Tned

[MileHighWrath]

Since there seem to be a huge number of ex-freaks here, maybe one should sit on the advisory board. That way you have someone that is familiar the freaks, their personalities, posting tendencies etc. just to avoid misunderstandings.

[HolyDiver]

Ok, I'm at work and it's a hectic day, so I don't have much time to spend here. However, I wanted to address a few things.

First, the advisory board. This is a group of seven members that make decisions for the message board much the way an owner or admin would on most message boards. Here is a brief history/explanation.

When I created this messageboard due to some fallout from some changes at mania, I decided that an internet community shouldn't be run as a dictatorship where one person made all the rules. So, even though I paid the startup costs, and paying the monthly bills and do the admin work, I made a committment not to make unilateral decisions.

Instead, we have created a group called the advisory board that is comprised of 7 members from the message board, including myself. Those seven members currenlty are (Tned, TXBronc, Kclady, dogfish, Kapaibro, Omac and MedfordBronco). This advisory board discusses and then votes on all changes to the forum. However, one thing to understand is that we don't just implement our ideas or opinions, we have all agreed (this was part of me giving up control of what I pay for each month) to make our decisions based on input from the general community, so that we do our very best to represent the wishes of the community at large.

In doing this, we have to weigh things like when it is clear that the community is 'split' on an issue, which direction will be best, or in some cases have the fewest negatives, for the message board. As an example, lets say that it looks like we have 50% of the people that wants points associated with Mile High Salutes, and 50% that don't. However, based on the Town Hall Discussions, it is clear that the 50% that want them feel points are good, but they don't post for points, blah, blah. Then, there is the 50% that are against points and they are completely against it because of the cliques they have seen on BM and other problems they raise.

In that case, we might look at it and say, the community is split, but the negatives associated with implementing points outweigh what ever positives there might be, so the board decides no points. This is just an example of what the advisory board has to weigh AFTER receiving input from the community via Town Hall threads.

As to the censored/disallowed words. One or two people in this thread have said we disregarded the majority of people that thought all the curse words were fine. That is simply untrue.

Of the people that responded in the Town Hall thread (that's all we can based our decisions on), 60% were against allowing the use of B!tch, 50%+ against allowing sh!t, and about 40% against wh@re and b@stard.

So, in the case of two of the four words, the majority of people didn't want them, and in the case of the other two, a slight majority did want them. The advisory board discussed all of this, read the feedback in the Town Hall thread and concluded that censoring those words, based on the input we received was the best thing for the message board.

With acronyms, it was a completely different story. All the acronyms received between 80-90% "ok" input from those that participated, with the exception of ****. In the end, after deliberating, we decided to allow all acronyms (of those discussed) except S T **, F U. Among the reasons for elminating s tfu and f u, was to make life easier on the mods, as these words while more offensive to some, also have a far greater liklyhood of being used as attacks.

So, do say we ignored what the minority wanted to make a couple people happy is a gross distortion of the truth. Instead, where things like WTF used to be edited from posts, it is now allowed, because the advisory board modified the rules and/or how the moderators should interpret them to be in line with the community wanted.

As I said when we launched this board. This 'advisory board' concept isn't perfect, and there will be times we get it wrong the first time, but if people participate in the process and give in put in the Town Hall discussions, then we can be sure to keep adapting the message board to meet what the members want.

You all should have seen the annoying " If you don't participate in forming the rules, don't complain about them" threads I spammed throughout the messageboard. This was a reminder to everyone that cares about what the rules are to participate in the Town Hall Discussions, because we (the advisory board) can only base our decisions on the input of people that aren't too damn lazy to participate.

I don't know how many other message boards are out there that are run this way, but none that I am a member of. We are doing our best to setup a message board that reflects the wishes and desires of the community, but that can only be accomplished if people participate in the Town Hall discussions.

As I said when I announced rules regarding acronyms and filtered words, anything we do here, whether it be a rule or forum feature, can be discussed in a town hall discussion and if through that discussion that the advisory board feels that the community at large wants something done, then we will do it, that is what our job is in terms of this message board. That doesn't mean that if 51% of the people want to allow f-bombs, we are doing to do it, because we may decide that the 49% that don't like it will be so upset it isn't in the best interests of the message board as a whole. This is one of the reaons we don't do straight polls, but instead require people to respond/discuss their position on issues.

Anyway, that is all the time I have now. I don't have time to proof or spell check, so pardon any major typing snafus.


I would like to offer the services of the Assistant mods.........from the BroncosFreak..........We are a group of 10.....or is it 11? ........anyway, we are a group of upstanding BroncosFreak member ( except for Coach) that can lend assistance..............when assistance is needed.................So, let me know, I'll get the boys saddled up and ready to ride.

[claymore]

I would like to offer the services of the Assistant mods.........from the BroncosFreak..........We are a group of 10.....or is it 11? ........anyway, we are a group of upstanding BroncosFreak member ( except for Coach) that can lend assistance..............when assistance is needed.................So, let me know, I'll get the boys saddled up and ready to ride.How you gonna ride with a broke knee?

[CoachChaz]

tned, I'l definately say that you created an excellent community here. I enjoy it and most of the other Freak transplants do as well. But when it comes to making decisions in the Town Hall, the only things I can say are A.) You should consider moving the Town Hall thread to the Lounge or something. It's at the very bottom of the main page and I didn't even know it was there for quite awhile. B.) I don't know that you can guarantee an accurate portrayal of what members want based on a committee. God bless them all for offering their time, but do they really represent the wishes of the people. You don't have to do it, but maybe putting the panel members up based on a vote would be a decent idea. Just a thought.

[MileHighWrath]

How you gonna ride with a broke knee?
Side saddle

[HolyDiver]

How you gonna ride with a broke knee?


Ever heard of wagons? ................No Clay, I think I will have you carry me.

[CoachChaz]

I would like to offer the services of the Assistant mods.........from the BroncosFreak..........We are a group of 10.....or is it 11? ........anyway, we are a group of upstanding BroncosFreak member ( except for Coach) that can lend assistance..............when assistance is needed.................So, let me know, I'll get the boys saddled up and ready to ride.


WTF???

[claymore]

Ever heard of wagons? ................No Clay, I think I will have you carry me.
Anything for you HD. Ill probably just rent you a Segway or something.

[tubby]

This is why everyone should run back to the Freak as fast as you can for as long as you can. Which I have a feeling will be quite a while. (b/c it's not really closing)

See you there.
:beer:

[Tned]

tned, I'l definately say that you created an excellent community here. I enjoy it and most of the other Freak transplants do as well. But when it comes to making decisions in the Town Hall, the only things I can say are A.) You should consider moving the Town Hall thread to the Lounge or something. It's at the very bottom of the main page and I didn't even know it was there for quite awhile.

Due to the importance of the profanity/acronym discussion, I spammed every major forum on this board with a "if you don't participate in making the rules, don't complain later" threads pointing people to the town hall. It is like the general election, there are far more people that will complain about the results than participate in the process.


B.) I don't know that you can guarantee an accurate portrayal of what members want based on a committee. God bless them all for offering their time, but do they really represent the wishes of the people. You don't have to do it, but maybe putting the panel members up based on a vote would be a decent idea. Just a thought.

There is a Town Hall thread started by Lord Trychon where he talks about the method for adding people to the board and whether or not there should be term limits (so to speak).

Like with many, it has gone with little input.

[CoachChaz]

This is why everyone should run back to the Freak as fast as you can for as long as you can. Which I have a feeling will be quite a while. (b/c it's not really closing)

See you there.
:beer:

I want to see something that specifically says it will remain open. Unfortunately, we can't get that info from John or Derek.

[claymore]

This is why everyone should run back to the Freak as fast as you can for as long as you can. Which I have a feeling will be quite a while. (b/c it's not really closing)

See you there.
:beer:Ive heard you say that often, you need to share Intel as an anonymous poster. We have no faith in the leadership, and besides this place has earned my trust.

I recommend assyogurt for the anonymous user name.

[Tned]

This is why everyone should run back to the Freak as fast as you can for as long as you can. Which I have a feeling will be quite a while. (b/c it's not really closing)

See you there.
:beer:

Well, I guess I take this as a big personal "screw you", but hey, each to their own.

[CoachChaz]

Due to the importance of the profanity/acronym discussion, I spammed every major forum on this board with a "if you don't participate in making the rules, don't complain later" threads pointing people to the town hall. It is like the general election, there are far more people that will complain about the results than participate in the process.



There is a Town Hall thread started by Lord Trychon where he talks about the method for adding people to the board and whether or not there should be term limits (so to speak).

Like with many, it has gone with little input.

Well, if you notice my sig...I'm doing my part to draw interest...but it seems like a total lack of knowledge or understanding of the system set up prior to the move has left alot of Freaks out of the loop on how that works.

[HolyDiver]

I want to see something that specifically says it will remain open. Unfortunately, we can't get that info from John or Derek.

Coach, I decided a few weeks ago to go ahead and keep the Freak open................Didn't you get the memo?

[topscribe]

Since there seem to be a huge number of ex-freaks here, maybe one should sit on the advisory board. That way you have someone that is familiar the freaks, their personalities, posting tendencies etc. just to avoid misunderstandings.

I understand what you are saying and why, I believe, you are saying it.

However, if the Advisory Board is striving to comply with the wishes of the
general membership, why would it matter who is on it?

Moreover, I think it is time for us all to regard ourselves as fellow members of
BroncosForums. Why should we continue this divisive "ex" syndrome, where I
am of Broncos Country and you are of the Freak? This Board is made up
mostly of former members from somewhere. The reasons we are here vary.
Nonetheless, we are here. We have a message board. It's time we bury
the hatchets and come to realize this, is it not? :noidea:

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[CoachChaz]

Ive heard you say that often, you need to share Intel as an anonymous poster. We have no faith in the leadership, and besides this place has earned my trust.

I recommend assyogurt for the anonymous user name.

Didn't someone have that user name over there?

[Ricky]

I want to see something that specifically says it will remain open. Unfortunately, we can't get that info from John or Derek.

I have spoke with John. It will be changing to the new news format before the Super Bowl.

[HolyDiver]

WTF???


Settle down coach, I'm trying to teach you humility.

[tubby]

Well, I guess I take this as a big personal "screw you", but hey, each to their own.

Never tned. I love you. Just not as much as the Freak.

[MOtorboat]

Shut up HD, you're not helping. :wave:

[claymore]

I have spoke with John. It will be changing to the new news format before the Super Bowl.The Nation will be changing?

[CoachChaz]

I understand what you are saying and why, I believe, you are saying it.

However, if the Advisory Board is striving to comply with the wishes of the
general membership, why would it matter who is on it?

Moreover, I think it is time for us all to regard ourselves as fellow members of
BroncosForums. Why should we continue this divisive "ex" syndrome, where I
am of Broncos Country and you are of the Freak? This Board is made up
mostly of former members from somewhere. The reasons we are here vary.
Nonetheless, we are here. We have a message board. It's time we bury
the hatchets and come to realize this, is it not? :noidea:

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I hope you don't see this as an attack on the site or a revolution. It's not. I think by suggesting to add a Freak to the board, he was more attempting to help people understand the personalities that came over moreso than giving the Freaks a specific voice.

Personally, I'd like to see a vote for the board if at all possible. if not...oh well...I'll still be here.

[HolyDiver]

I understand what you are saying and why, I believe, you are saying it.

However, if the Advisory Board is striving to comply with the wishes of the
general membership, why would it matter who is on it?

Moreover, I think it is time for us all to regard ourselves as fellow members of
BroncosForums. Why should we continue this divisive "ex" syndrome, where I
am of Broncos Country and you are of the Freak? This Board is made up
mostly of former members from somewhere. The reasons we are here vary.
Nonetheless, we are here. We have a message board. It's time we bury
the hatchets and come to realize this, is it not? :noidea:

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I think you guys are doing just fine...................Now, of course...........adding the sevices of the AMA ( assistant moderating association) can only ENHACE, what is already a strong forum.

[Ricky]

I...We have a message board. It's time we bury
the hatchets ... :noidea:

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I have one you can use.

[MOtorboat]

I vote that HD is not on the advisory board.

[claymore]

Well, I guess I take this as a big personal "screw you", but hey, each to their own.
Im staying. Like Bush said, "fool me once, em, er, em, you wont trick me again".

[Ricky]

The Nation will be changing?

Have you been drinking again?

[topscribe]

I hope you don't see this as an attack on the site or a revolution. It's not. I think by suggesting to add a Freak to the board, he was more attempting to help people understand the personalities that came over moreso than giving the Freaks a specific voice.

Personally, I'd like to see a vote for the board if at all possible. if not...oh well...I'll still be here.

I understand. Maybe that can happen sometime, who knows? You guys and
gals do have a lot to offer. You've already proven that. :beer:

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[topscribe]

Im staying. Like Bush said, "fool me once, em, er, em, you wont trick me again".

I'm a Bush fan, but . . . :pound:

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[CoachChaz]

I understand. Maybe that can happen sometime, who knows? You guys and
gals do have a lot to offer. You've already proven that. :beer:

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I'm not always a sick twisted pig.

[MileHighWrath]

I understand what you are saying and why, I believe, you are saying it.

However, if the Advisory Board is striving to comply with the wishes of the
general membership, why would it matter who is on it?

Moreover, I think it is time for us all to regard ourselves as fellow members of
BroncosForums. Why should we continue this divisive "ex" syndrome, where I
am of Broncos Country and you are of the Freak? This Board is made up
mostly of former members from somewhere. The reasons we are here vary.
Nonetheless, we are here. We have a message board. It's time we bury
the hatchets and come to realize this, is it not? :noidea:

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All I'm saying is that you may have the opportunity to place on you advisory board, someone with knowledge and experience with the multitude of freaks that proliferate postings on this forum. Why not take advantage?

[claymore]

This all takes time, The original Forum members probably feel like a major panty raid has taken place over the last month.

Tned has done triple bendover back flips for us. Things have already moved pretty fast for some of the older members here.

I would hate to ask for much of anything else right now.

[Ricky]

I'm not always a sick twisted pig.

Cheez will be upset to hear that.

[CoachChaz]

I have one you can use.

No need to dig it up Rick. I already professed my love for you

[topscribe]

I'm not always a sick twisted pig.

Yes Coach, and I'm sure someday you will reveal that . . .

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[CoachChaz]

Yes Coach, and I'm sure someday you will reveal that . . .

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When it happens, please take me out back and shoot me.

[MOtorboat]

This all takes time, The original Forum members probably feel like a major panty raid has taken place over the last month.

Tned has done triple bendover back flips for us. Things have already moved pretty fast for some of the older members here.

I would hate to ask for much of anything else right now.

Go get drunk...it's your day off. Leave the rest of us "office rats" to our work...and get back to me tomorrow.

[claymore]

Go get drunk...it's your day off. Leave the rest of us "office rats" to our work...and get back to me tomorrow.

Foxtrot Uniform. :D

[CoachChaz]

This all takes time, The original Forum members probably feel like a major panty raid has taken place over the last month.

Tned has done triple bendover back flips for us. Things have already moved pretty fast for some of the older members here.

I would hate to ask for much of anything else right now.

Need some chapstick?

[topscribe]

When it happens, please take me out back and shoot me.

At the price of ammunition these days? You kidding?





























. . . a rope is reusable . . . :coffee:



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[MileHighWrath]

Foxtrot Uniform. :D
:laugh:

Need some chapstick?
:lol:

[OB]

I used the term "fuq buddy" the other day and had that post deleted with an explanation that there was a difference between a girlfriend and a fuq buddy. Somehow, I knew that before I posted it. Otherwise, I might have said girlfriend. How the hell do you get offended by a term like that?

Esp since he was referring to ME and I didnt get offended - so why would it or should it offend anyone else :confused:

You know what threads we post in and basically what will be said - if you think it may offend you dont read it - and if you do its on you - not the person who posted it - unless they were specifically addressing YOU


Im not saying this needs to turn into a xxx MB - i think some things may have gotten out of hand but it was for a short period and im sure little harm was done -

People if you want this to be a christian football MB then thats what should have been stated when this board opened -

I dont understand how you can go to any sports board and get offended by bad language and some rude behavior - if you were tailgaiting or at a game and you heard me yell **** You Al Davis - would you report me to security and try and get me kicked out of the game

Its a mans sport - a good indication of that is grown men needing cheerleaders - ;) - are you offended by the scantily clad cheerleaders at every game - this isnt ballet class - its freakin football

Did you call into Fox and report Tom Caughlin (sp) for dropping the F bomb and having Fox run it back up close in slow mo so basically anyone over the age of 8 could figure out what he was saying

If you dont want to hear swears or your kids to here them - the reality is you need not be a sports fan

[CoachChaz]

At the price of ammunition these days? You kidding?



. . . a rope is reusable . . . :coffee:



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I prefer death like I prefer my s...

...I'll bite my tongue for now.


But I prefer it quick and easy

[claymore]

Need some chapstick?
I have no need to kiss ass there is no benefit. Although I see some of our frustrations, I feel bad asking for more change since Tned has been freaking awesome.

Maybe a solution could have certain mods relegate certain forums.

Example
TS = Football
Carroll = PR
Coach type personality (God Help Us) = Lounge

Just saying, things are pretty smooth. I have been warned and had posts deleted as well. Im not innocent. Im just amazed at the transition that has already taken place.

Things were much different Dec 24th than they are today..........

[tubby]

I have spoke with John. It will be changing to the new news format before the Super Bowl.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h195/BrandiMcCoy/Me%20and%20Christy/angry.jpg

[MOtorboat]

I prefer death like I prefer my s...

...I'll bite my tongue for now.


But I prefer it quick and easy

Quick and painless?

[topscribe]

Esp since he was referring to ME and I didnt get offended - so why would it or should it offend anyone else :confused:

You know what threads we post in and basically what will be said - if you think it may offend you dont read it - and if you do its on you - not the person who posted it - unless they were specifically addressing YOU


Im not saying this needs to turn into a xxx MB - i think some things may have gotten out of hand but it was for a short period and im sure little harm was done -

People if you want this to be a christian football MB then thats what should have been stated when this board opened -

I dont understand how you can go to any sports board and get offended by bad language and some rude behavior - if you were tailgaiting or at a game and you heard me yell **** You Al Davis - would you report me to security and try and get me kicked out of the game

Its a mans sport - a good indication of that is grown men needing cheerleaders - ;) - are you offended by the scantily clad cheerleaders at every game - this isnt ballet class - its freakin football

Did you call into Fox and report Tom Caughlin (sp) for dropping the F bomb and having Fox run it back up close in slow mo so basically anyone over the age of 8 could figure out what he was saying

If you dont want to hear swears or your kids to here them - the reality is you need not be a sports fan

Why is it necessary to drop the f-bomb to be a sports fan? :confused:



Nonetheless, bottom line is, the Advisory Board is trying to go by the
majority. When that happens, people from the fringes on both sides will
become unhappy. Just can't help that . . .

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[topscribe]

I have no need to kiss ass there is no benefit. Although I see some of our frustrations, I feel bad asking for more change since Tned has been freaking awesome.

Maybe a solution could have certain mods relegate certain forums.

Example
TS = Football
Carroll = PR
Coach type personality (God Help Us) = Lounge

Just saying, things are pretty smooth. I have been warned and had posts deleted as well. Im not innocent. Im just amazed at the transition that has already taken place.

Things were much different Dec 24th than they are today..........

The day I'm limited to a forum is the day I hang up my spurs . . .

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[MileHighWrath]

I have no need to kiss ass there is no benefit. Although I see some of our frustrations, I feel bad asking for more change since Tned has been freaking awesome.


I wasn't suggesting a change when I suggested adding an ex-freak to the advisory board. I was suggesting that they should take advantage of the fact that a whole group joined almost in mass and to use our familiarity with each other to the advantage of this MB.

[NightTrainLayne]

Esp since he was referring to ME and I didnt get offended - so why would it or should it offend anyone else :confused:

You know what threads we post in and basically what will be said - if you think it may offend you dont read it - and if you do its on you - not the person who posted it - unless they were specifically addressing YOU


Im not saying this needs to turn into a xxx MB - i think some things may have gotten out of hand but it was for a short period and im sure little harm was done -

People if you want this to be a christian football MB then thats what should have been stated when this board opened -

I dont understand how you can go to any sports board and get offended by bad language and some rude behavior - if you were tailgaiting or at a game and you heard me yell **** You Al Davis - would you report me to security and try and get me kicked out of the game

Its a mans sport - a good indication of that is grown men needing cheerleaders - ;) - are you offended by the scantily clad cheerleaders at every game - this isnt ballet class - its freakin football

Did you call into Fox and report Tom Caughlin (sp) for dropping the F bomb and having Fox run it back up close in slow mo so basically anyone over the age of 8 could figure out what he was saying

If you dont want to hear swears or your kids to here them - the reality is you need not be a sports fan

Well I FINALLY figure out what all this is about. I was involved in that thread at the time and took no offense. Unbelievable.

I am definitely a Christian, but if I was offended at stuff like that, I might as well join a seminary somewhere and become a monk. Short of that, I would just avoid threads outside of the football forums. It would appear that someone was "slumming" and looking for ammunition to fire at someone with whom they have a personality conflict with.

Are the powers that be just blind to this, or do they really feel that a rule was broken?

[CoachChaz]

Quick and painless?

I can deal with a litte bit of pain...as long as it's quick.

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Well I FINALLY figure out what all this is about. I was involved in that thread at the time and took no offense. Unbelievable.

I am definitely a Christian, but if I was offended at stuff like that, I might as well join a seminary somewhere and become a monk. Short of that, I would just avoid threads outside of the football forums. It would appear that someone was "slumming" and looking for ammunition to fire at someone with whom they have a personality conflict with.

Are the powers that be just blind to this, or do they really feel that a rule was broken?

What I personally have tried to impress on everyone here is that the
"powers that be" happen to be the majority of this message board.

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[CoachChaz]

Well I FINALLY figure out what all this is about. I was involved in that thread at the time and took no offense. Unbelievable.

I am definitely a Christian, but if I was offended at stuff like that, I might as well join a seminary somewhere and become a monk. Short of that, I would just avoid threads outside of the football forums. It would appear that someone was "slumming" and looking for ammunition to fire at someone with whom they have a personality conflict with.

Are the powers that be just blind to this, or do they really feel that a rule was broken?

We'll just call it the Chaz rule. Kind of like Roy Williams and the horse collar, my language and demeanor needs a rule.

[DallasChief]

We'll just call it the Chaz rule. Kind of like Roy Williams and the horse collar, my language and demeanor needs a rule.

You do have a potty mouth. :D

I am a shining example of a model member. From now on, everytime you go to post something just think, "WWDCD?" .

[claymore]

Have you been drinking again?No, but I dont understand If the Freak is now not going away, it is changing formats?

BTW, if it isnt going away, they obviously dont want any of the old members back. And if they do its a great example of what went wrong with the place.

[claymore]

You do have a potty mouth. :D

I am a shining example of a model member. From now on, everytime you go to post something just think, "WWDCD?" .
Driving an Iroc, and Brushing your mullet has nothing to do with posting here. :D

[CoachChaz]

You do have a potty mouth. :D

I am a shining example of a model member. From now on, everytime you go to post something just think, "WWDCD?" .

I won't argue with this, but would Jesus or DC (who I've heard drop the F bomb) really be offended by a four letter word? That's all it is...a word. The word isn't bad, it's the context it's used in. There is a difference if I say F YOU!! or if i say WTF.

[DallasChief]

I won't argue with this, but would Jesus or DC (who I've heard drop the F bomb) really be offended by a four letter word? That's all it is...a word. The word isn't bad, it's the context it's used in. There is a difference if I say F YOU!! or if i say WTF.

:lol: And my kids were probably sitting at the table with me when I said it.:cool:

[MileHighWrath]

No, but I dont understand If the Freak is now not going away, it is changing formats?

BTW, if it isnt going away, they obviously dont want any of the old members back. And if they do its a great example of what went wrong with the place.

My understanding is that it's changing formats and will no longer include a forum, which, of course, is a great idea since it was the forum that brought all the attention to the domain and the only real part of it that was note worthy.

Darn shame there's no way to create a different format on a different domain like broncosfreak.net . tv .org etc etc. (oozing with sarcasm)

(the whole thing rings of either stupidity or dishonesty)

[claymore]

My understanding is that it's changing formats and will no longer include a forum, which, of course, is a great idea since it was the forum that brought all the attention to the domain and the only real part of it that was note worthy.

Darn shame there's no way to create a different format on a different domain like broncosfreak.net . tv .org etc etc. (oozing with sarcasm)

(the whole thing rings of either stupidity or dishonesty)
Thats what confused me Tubby said it wasnt going away, then you said it was changing Formats............. I would say Ignorance, stupidity, and stubbornness.

[CoachChaz]

:lol: And my kids were probably sitting at the table with me when I said it.:cool:

Nah...it was at the basketball games and the drive back and forth. Even I was courteous in front of your kids. Whoa...maybe Chaz isn't the AntiChrist afterall.

[claymore]

Nah...it was at the basketball games and the drive back and forth. Even I was courteous in front of your kids. Whoa...maybe Chaz isn't the AntiChrist afterall.
I was shocked at how mellow you sounded on the phone. I was wasted though. :tsk:

[MileHighWrath]

Nah...it was at the basketball games and the drive back and forth. Even I was courteous in front of your kids. Whoa...maybe Chaz isn't the AntiChrist afterall.

Nah that would be Rev. AL!

[KCL]

As a member of the board....just like to say...that we are not a
group of thin skinned prudes.We all did come from BMania....true and we
all have known one another for quite awhile.

Tned asked me to be on the board (I was a little surprised when he did
since I am not a Bronco fan) no need for any comments from you top...;)

Actually he first asked me to be a mod and I told him I would rather not be.

Tned asked us to make decisions on things and I really think we have done
a good job.Remember we are going by what the majority posted in Town Hall.

One thing to keep in mind is that this is not the board that many of you have come from.I think this is a great board.To be honest...if you all had joined the official site....I think there are a couple of you who probably would of already been banned.They have what they call an IP system and if you get to many IPs...you actually lose your ability to PM.We are not looking to do anything like that.Thats ridiculous IMO.

Feel free to PM any of us with any concerns and we will do our best to help any of you out.

[Ricky]

No, but I dont understand If the Freak is now not going away, it is changing formats?

BTW, if it isnt going away, they obviously dont want any of the old members back. And if they do its a great example of what went wrong with the place.


The Freak is not going away. It will become a news feed site that will allow feedback and comments to those news feeds. Think of it as a diggs.com for the Broncos.

[claymore]

The Freak is not going away. It will become a news feed site that will allow feedback and comments to those news feeds. Think of it as a diggs.com for the Broncos.Thats what I thought, tubby thinks the forums are staying though. He will be heart broken.

[Ricky]

Why is it necessary to drop the f-bomb to be a sports fan? :confused:

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Just so everyone knows. I am one of the prudes that hates this word and wish it would never be used. Yes I am somewhat offended when I have to read it. IMHO it shows a low intelligence level to use it in conversation.

Again SR, this is my opinion and I will not force that opinion on you or anyone else.

[topscribe]

As a member of the board....just like to say...that we are not a
group of thin skinned prudes.We all did come from BMania....true and we
all have known one another for quite awhile.

Tned asked me to be on the board (I was a little surprised when he did
since I am not a Bronco fan) no need for any comments from you top...;)

Actually he first asked me to be a mod and I told him I would rather not be.

Tned asked us to make decisions on things and I really think we have done
a good job.Remember we are going by what the majority posted in Town Hall.

One thing to keep in mind is that this is not the board that many of you have come from.I think this is a great board.To be honest...if you all had joined the official site....I think there are a couple of you who probably would of already been banned.They have what they call an IP system and if you get to many IPs...you actually lose your ability to PM.We are not looking to do anything like that.Thats ridiculous IMO.

Feel free to PM any of us with any concerns and we will do our best to help any of you out.

Just to clear one thing up here, so as not to give the wrong idea:

Tned approached you about Mod and then the Advisory Board, yes. But
that was after the Advisory Board approved you. He did not presume to
just approach you on his own volition. The Board even has to approve
Board members and Mods, as you know, KCL . . . just want to make it clear
to others here.

Tned emptied himself of that kind of power from the start and now has no
more power than any of the other six on the Board (of which I am not one,
BTW), except, as he pointed out, where he feels he might be in some sort
of legal jeopardy.

This is not a dictatorship by Admin.

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[MileHighWrath]

As a member of the board....just like to say...that we are not a
group of thin skinned prudes.We all did come from BMania....true and we
all have known one another for quite awhile.
.....

Still gives even more power to my suggestion of including someone from the freak into the advisory committee. All of the Bmania people are familiar with each other as are the freaks. You all know each other's personalities and/or posting tendencies as the freaks are familiar with theirs. I would not want this site changed to be more like another, I want it to be it's own site. But let's take advantage of the fact that there is a great deal of familiarity already in existence.

[Ricky]

Thats what I thought, tubby thinks the forums are staying though. He will be heart broken.


tubby thinks people like to see him poop in threads too.

[KCL]

Just to clear one thing up here, so as not to give the wrong idea:

Tned approached you about Mod and then the Advisory Board, yes. But
that was after the Advisory Board approved you. He did not presume to
just approach you on his own volition. The Board even has to approve
Board members and Mods, as you know, KCL . . . just want to make it clear
to others here.

Tned emptied himself of that kind of power from the start and now has no
more power than any of the other six on the Board (of which I am not one,
BTW), except, as he pointed out, where he feels he might be in some sort
of legal jeopardy.

This is not a dictatorship by Admin.

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well whatever the case top...he did ask me and I said No Thanks! I take enough abuse here being a Chiefs fan...:lol:

[MileHighWrath]

tubby thinks people like to see him poop in threads too.

... people don't like it? Ricky! Say it ain't so!

[CoachChaz]

Still gives even more power to my suggestion of including someone from the freak into the advisory committee. All of the Bmania people are familiar with each other as are the freaks. You all know each other's personalities and/or posting tendencies as the freaks are familiar with theirs. I would not want this site changed to be more like another, I want it to be it's own site. But let's take advantage of the fact that there is a great deal of familiarity already in existence.

If you want the most beautiful and powerful child, you mate the most beautiful and powerful parents. Combine the best of the Freak with the best of BM and I think it becomes a really solid site

[Bronco9798]

I wouldn't go back to the freak even if it was to remain open. Screw that. I want a refund of my money first. John is a good dude, but he screwed the pooch by shutting it down and thinking an emotional train wreck like Derek who rebounded into love could run anything.

That whole ordeal was a colossal abortion.

[KCL]

Still gives even more power to my suggestion of including someone from the freak into the advisory committee. All of the Bmania people are familiar with each other as are the freaks. You all know each other's personalities and/or posting tendencies as the freaks are familiar with theirs. I would not want this site changed to be more like another, I want it to be it's own site. But let's take advantage of the fact that there is a great deal of familiarity already in existence.

This is true and there is the possibility...no one is saying there isn't.

But that has to be approved by the current board....;):laugh:

[topscribe]

well whatever the case top...he did ask me and I said No Thanks! I take enough abuse here being a Chiefs fan...:lol:

Listen, those such as you and DC are great to have here.







We need somebody as objects of our taunting and gloating . . . :coffee:



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[MileHighWrath]

I wouldn't go back to the freak even if it was to remain open. Screw that. I want a refund of my money first. John is a good dude, but he screwed the pooch by shutting it down and thinking an emotional train wreck like Derek who rebounded into love could run anything.

That whole ordeal was a colossal abortion.

He can keep my contributions, I got my money's worth. But I agree with your sentiments 100% 9er.

[claymore]

If you want the most beautiful and powerful child, you mate the most beautiful and powerful parents. Combine the best of the Freak with the best of BM and I think it becomes a really solid siteTopScribe and MB would make a pretty ugly kid. IMO.

[CoachChaz]

This is true and there is the possibility...no one is saying there isn't.

But that has to be approved by the current board....;)

Which could legitimately create a dictatorship by committee. If none of the current members are ever required to leave and if they prefer to stick with people they know, then other "families" will never be represented.

[MileHighWrath]

TopScribe and MB would make a pretty ugly kid. IMO.

... and short

[claymore]

So are we the Kurds of the BF's?

[Bronco9798]

Rick, never say I offend you, when I was one that always defended you. Please......

[Ricky]

anyone and MB would make a pretty ugly kid. IMO.

edited for ya

[Ricky]

Rick, never say I offend you, when I was one that always defended you. Please......
It was the wine talking Kev, I promise.:cool:

[CoachChaz]

Rick, never say I offend you, when I was one that always defended you. Please......

I just ignored his comment about lower intelligence using the F bomb. I didn't want to get into it with him on that insult.

[claymore]

edited for ya
LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pound:

[CoachChaz]

I feel like I have the V chip installed in me. If I say something wrong, I'll get zapped

[MileHighWrath]

I just ignored his comment about lower intelligence using the F bomb. I didn't want to get into it with him on that insult.

Picking your battles wisely. I was tempted there as well.