Bosshogg's Precombine Mock Draft

[BOSSHOGG30]

My mock is based on Denver signing a key veteran or two. The guys I would key if I were the Broncos general manager are left tackle Jordan Gross and outside linebacker Lance Briggs. It will cost a lot to bring those two guys in, but I think Denver can find a way with a couple highly paid veterans retiring and the extra 7 million the salary cap is going up for the 2008 season. I also think the Broncos accommodate Javon Walker trade request for a 4th or 5th rounder and hopefully Travis Henry is either cut or traded as well. For the purpose of this mock I will not add the extra draft pick(s), just incase they aren’t traded.

First I would break down the roster:
Offense
QB: Cutler
RB: Young/Hall
FB:
WR: Marshall
WR: Stokely
WR: Martinez
TE: Graham
TE: Scheffler
LT: Gross
LG: Kuper
C: Hamilton
RG: Holland
RT: Harris/Pears
K: Elam
KR/PR: Hall/Martinez

When looking at the offense I would like to add WR, FB, RB, KR/PR and OT depth.

Defense
DE: Dumervil
DE: Crowder
DT: Thomas
DT: Mckinley
OLB: Briggs
MLB: Williams
OLB: Winborn/Webster
CB: Bly
CB: Champ
FS: Abdullah
SS: Lynch
P: Paulescu

When looking at the defense I would like to add DT, OLB, SS, and P depth.

Determined positions of need = 9
DT, OLB, FS, P, WR, FB, RB, KR/PR, OT

Now to rank by importance or need

1) DT- need someone to stuff the middle with Marcus Thomas
2) OLB – need someone who can play over the tightend at SAM
3) FS – will slide Abdullah to SS need a project at FS someone with cover skills
4) WR – need a #3 or 4 guy whose can help as possible kick returner
5) FB – need a true blocking full back
6) RB – need depth and a possible kick returner
7) OT – need depth behind Gross, Harris, and Pears
8) P – need someone to challenge current punter Paulescu.
9) KR/PR – looking to address with either the runningback or wideout.


1st round: S, Kenny Phillips, Miami
Very fast for a safety and excellent in coverage. Has the size and determination to help in run when needed. Will knock you out if you come over the middle.

2nd round: RB, Jamaal Charles, Texas
Super fast, breaks tackles, and very shifty. Excellent cut back runner. Home run threat every time he touches the ball.

4th round: WR/KR/PR, Donnie Avery, Houston
Super fast and excellent kick and punt returner

4th round: DT, Lorenzo Williams, Missouri
Super strong, Wrestled in high school and college, good with leverage, and good run stuffer.

5th round: OLB, Chris Graham, Michigan
Very under-rated linebacker. Excellent in coverage, can stay with a lot of wide outs.

5th round: OT, Shannon Boatman, FSU
Big and strong. Needs some coaching, but very promising potential.

7th round: FB, Jerome Felton, Furman
If Lorenzo Neal had a clone it would be Felton. Excellent run blocker. Punishing hitter.

7th round: P, Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota St.
Super leg strength and good directional kicker. Knows how to kick in cold weather as well.

[CoachChaz]

Well done, brother. I like it
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[MHCBill]

Nicely done Boss.

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[G_Money]

Nice mock. Two 1st day studs (my requirement for any draft mock - no project picks in the Moss vein, we need contributors NOW) and some serious positional help in areas of need. I like Williams and Felton especially at their draft slots - no complaints there.

Some quibbles:

1) If we actually get Gross in FA for LT, and have Harris, Pears and Kuper competing at RT, then I'd swap your 5th rounder in Boatman for either Legursky or Lichtensteiger at center. Nalen isn't gonna be around much longer and while I like Hamilton for the next year or two a) I'm afraid of another concussion that ends his career and b) he's not necessarily the strong inside presence we need. Both Legursky and Lichtensteiger are nasty, and stronger than our current options.

2) I don't think Avery is gonna be there, specifically because he can also return punts and he's gonna put up a ridiculous time at the Combine IMO. I like the position for our 3rd wide (understudy to #2 Stokley while he's here) though. Alternate possiblities: Dorien Bryant and Jordy Nelson are two guys I like. Nelson's bigger (and IMO way under-rated right now) but both guys can play slot and return kicks.

But I like the work, man. Nicely done.

~G

[Rex]

Question:
How the hell do you know how good the P from N. Dakota St. is? Just wondering.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Question:
How the hell do you know how good the P from N. Dakota St. is? Just wondering.

Direct TV my friend, Direct TV

oh and keeping up with scout websites, and stats.

[Rex]

Direct TV my friend, Direct TV

oh and keeping up with scout websites, and stats.

So you watched the Punter from N. Dakota St?

[BOSSHOGG30]

So you watched the Punter from N. Dakota St?

A couple times.. he was on sports center the one time on one of the NCAA Football pregame shows and that kind of through his name out there. He almost had an eighty yard punt in a game, that's how I remember his wacky name and that he was known for his really good leg. So I would check out Dakota St stats to see how the kid did. Plus he is in some of my reading materials for some of the magazines I get at my house. You can see him if you watch the Senior Bowl this year.. he will be in it. Don't you get the Big Ten Network on your TV?

[G_Money]

So you watched the Punter from N. Dakota St?

Sadly, yes.

Don't worry, you'll get a chance to see him in the Senior Bowl so you can be as lame as us - he's a good punter. Big kid too.

Also, the cool name - I'd print off Ivan Drago posters and carry them to games. :cool:

~G

[Rex]

A couple times.. he was on sports center the one time on one of the NCAA Football pregame shows and that kind of through his name out there. He almost had an eighty yard punt in a game, that's how I remember his wacky name and that he was known for his really good leg. So I would check out Dakota St stats to see how the kid did. Plus he is in some of my reading materials for some of the magazines I get at my house. You can see him if you watch the Senior Bowl this year.. he will be in it.

OK.

Just wondering.

[BroncoJoe]

Man, you guys seriously need a wife or girlfriend....

j/k

[BOSSHOGG30]

Man, you guys seriously need a wife or girlfriend....

j/k

Does that mean you are breaking up with me?:Cry:

[Rex]

Does that mean you are breaking up with me?:Cry:

He has become a "1 man man" lately Boss.

[BOSSHOGG30]

He has become a "1 man man" lately Boss.

That sucks

I thought we treated him pretty good:whoknows:

[Rex]

That sucks

I thought we treated him pretty good:whoknows:

He is currently a "kept man" by Beef.

[BOSSHOGG30]

He is currently a "kept man" by Beef.

At least we know that Beef will provide him with plenty of lovin':laugh:

[CoachChaz]

[B]1st round: S, Kenny Phillips, Miami
Very fast for a safety and excellent in coverage. Has the size and determination to help in run when needed. Will knock you out if you come over the middle.

2nd round: RB, Jamaal Charles, Texas
Super fast, breaks tackles, and very shifty. Excellent cut back runner. Home run threat every time he touches the ball.

4th round: WR/KR/PR, Donnie Avery, Houston
Super fast and excellent kick and punt returner

4th round: DT, Lorenzo Williams, Missouri
Super strong, Wrestled in high school and college, good with leverage, and good run stuffer.

5th round: OLB, Chris Graham, Michigan
Very under-rated linebacker. Excellent in coverage, can stay with a lot of wide outs.

5th round: OT, Shannon Boatman, FSU
Big and strong. Needs some coaching, but very promising potential.

7th round: FB, Jerome Felton, Furman
If Lorenzo Neal had a clone it would be Felton. Excellent run blocker. Punishing hitter.

7th round: P, Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota St.
Super leg strength and good directional kicker. Knows how to kick in cold weather as well.

I'll give my input while I'm at it.

1. Love Phillips and he will be a perennial Pro Bowler, IMO.
2. Charles would be nice, but I'd prefer one of the run stuffers as long as Bates is in charge. Insert your choice of Okam/Bryant/Moore/Balmer here.
4. I'd like to get another tackle to groom early, so I think a big guy like Carl Nicks should be available here.
4. Looking for another receiver to add to the mix even though 2nd day WR never pan out for us. Give me Paul Hubbard in this spot
5. I like another LB in this spot and I like Bell, but I think he'll be gone. Give me Vince Hall here.
5. I think we may have to jump on a punter here because I don't see the better ones lasting til the 7th. Use this pick on Dragosovich.
7. Add some all around ability and aggression to multiple spots on the defense and give me Studebaker
7. Need a center to groom. Use the last pick on Lichtensteiger (so I can see his name on a jersey) or Velasco.
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[BroncoJoe]

He is currently a "kept man" by Beef's wife.

Corrected for accuracy.

[shank]

not bad looking to me (i don't know many of these players), but i am wondering how you have RB as our sixth most pressing need, but you have us taking a rb in the 2nd round over our #1 need at DT.

[BOSSHOGG30]

not bad looking to me (i don't know many of these players), but i am wondering how you have RB as our sixth most pressing need, but you have us taking a rb in the 2nd round over our #1 need at DT.

Because I feel Charles gives us that impact player on offense an I would be reaching for a DT in the 2nd round at that point. You have to remember that we have an early 2nd round pick, we aren't picking in the later 2nd round like we are used to.

[shank]

Because I feel Charles gives us that impact player on offense an I would be reaching for a DT in the 2nd round at that point. You have to remember that we have an early 2nd round pick, we aren't picking in the later 2nd round like we are used to.

i see a lot of people throwing okam into our 2nd pick. do you not like okam or do you not think he'll be there? or do you like charles that much more than okam that you'd take him even though we need him less?


(sorry, i don't follow college much and try and find out as much as i can each year from now to the draft-cram session haha)

[underrated29]

Because I feel Charles gives us that impact player on offense an I would be reaching for a DT in the 2nd round at that point. You have to remember that we have an early 2nd round pick, we aren't picking in the later 2nd round like we are used to.

im not going to say dont take him if he's there, because i always like talent that falls. But as i have said in other posts, who freaking cares if we reach or not. What does it matter that we pick early instead of middle? We have a position of need, not of value. We NEED DT, we dont have value at dt. RB is a position of value. Dont take one unless the right guy falls. Now this guy could be the guy, i dont know, and i will take your word for it. But that whole value thing to me is jsut crazy!

[BOSSHOGG30]

i see a lot of people throwing okam into our 2nd pick. do you not like okam or do you not think he'll be there? or do you like charles that much more than okam that you'd take him even though we need him less?


(sorry, i don't follow college much and try and find out as much as i can each year from now to the draft-cram session haha)

I think he might be a little over-rated and I don't like his work out ethic enough to draft him. I tried to take the safe approach and find guys that could come in and contribute right away.

[mclark]

[B]1st round: S, Kenny Phillips, Miami
Very fast for a safety and excellent in coverage. Has the size and determination to help in run when needed. Will knock you out if you come over the middle.

2nd round: RB, Jamaal Charles, Texas
Super fast, breaks tackles, and very shifty. Excellent cut back runner. Home run threat every time he touches the ball.

4th round: WR/KR/PR, Donnie Avery, Houston
Super fast and excellent kick and punt returner

4th round: DT, Lorenzo Williams, Missouri
Super strong, Wrestled in high school and college, good with leverage, and good run stuffer.

5th round: OLB, Chris Graham, Michigan
Very under-rated linebacker. Excellent in coverage, can stay with a lot of wide outs.

5th round: OT, Shannon Boatman, FSU
Big and strong. Needs some coaching, but very promising potential.

7th round: FB, Jerome Felton, Furman
If Lorenzo Neal had a clone it would be Felton. Excellent run blocker. Punishing hitter.

7th round: P, Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota St.
Super leg strength and good directional kicker. Knows how to kick in cold weather as well.

Good job, Boss. The key is getting those free agents we need. We have some different people listed -- but the same thinking.

[mclark]

Sadly, yes.

Don't worry, you'll get a chance to see him in the Senior Bowl so you can be as lame as us - he's a good punter. Big kid too.

Also, the cool name - I'd print off Ivan Drago posters and carry them to games. :cool:

~G

Drago...isn't he with the Russian Mafia? Maybe we need a few Russian Mafiosos on our team.

[WARHORSE]

im not going to say dont take him if he's there, because i always like talent that falls. But as i have said in other posts, who freaking cares if we reach or not. What does it matter that we pick early instead of middle? We have a position of need, not of value. We NEED DT, we dont have value at dt. RB is a position of value. Dont take one unless the right guy falls. Now this guy could be the guy, i dont know, and i will take your word for it. But that whole value thing to me is jsut crazy!

Point taken.

Im not speaking for BOSS, but I do understand his reasoning. I think McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones and Charles are all exceptional backs. Not that many teams need a RB, and with this amount of depth, a really good runningback is going to make it into the second round. If four RBs get taken before we select in the second, then there will be some good talent pushed down in other areas as well.

As far as DT, goes, we really need a run stuffer first and foremost. Of course we want a complete every down DT, but getting a guy like that is not going to be easy. Good DTs are hard to come by and scarce at the moment in the league. If we dont go first round, finding a guy to play that spot every down is going to be a developmental project to be sure. Alot of people are going to draft at that position. Finding a DT that might not be an everydown player at the moment, but has shown the ability to stuff the run well would be an easier draft aquisition. We have two fourths, two fifths and two sevenths (from what I hear-Plummer) in order to get a good run stuffer.


An elite RB will help any team at any time......look at Minnesota. I just dont think you pass up talent like that. The Clinton Portis selection was the exact same scenario. He was the number one RB on Denvers board, and even though MA got rookie of the year the year before, Denver felt it couldnt pass him up in the second round.

Hey BOSS, only thing I didnt necessarily agree with was Doomy at starting DE. I think we will want Moss to be stronger, healed instead. Dumerville is too small to stop the run imo. Id like to see Doomerville be able to roam at LBer anywhere he wants on the field on passing downs to attack the QB. Just my thought.

[Lonestar]

Point taken.

Im not speaking for BOSS, but I do understand his reasoning. I think McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones and Charles are all exceptional backs. Not that many teams need a RB, and with this amount of depth, a really good runningback is going to make it into the second round. If four RBs get taken before we select in the second, then there will be some good talent pushed down in other areas as well.

As far as DT, goes, we really need a run stuffer first and foremost. Of course we want a complete every down DT, but getting a guy like that is not going to be easy. Good DTs are hard to come by and scarce at the moment in the league. If we dont go first round, finding a guy to play that spot every down is going to be a developmental project to be sure. Alot of people are going to draft at that position. Finding a DT that might not be an everydown player at the moment, but has shown the ability to stuff the run well would be an easier draft aquisition. We have two fourths, two fifths and two sevenths (from what I hear-Plummer) in order to get a good run stuffer.


An elite RB will help any team at any time......look at Minnesota. I just dont think you pass up talent like that. The Clinton Portis selection was the exact same scenario. He was the number one RB on Denvers board, and even though MA got rookie of the year the year before, Denver felt it couldnt pass him up in the second round.

Hey BOSS, only thing I didnt necessarily agree with was Doomy at starting DE. I think we will want Moss to be stronger, healed instead. Dumerville is too small to stop the run imo. Id like to see Doomerville be able to roam at LBer anywhere he wants on the field on passing downs to attack the QB. Just my thought.


Denver for as long as I can remember rotates DL players more so the BIG guys alot to keep them fresh..

IF you mean not being pulled because of not being able to play the run or pass equaly as good then I'm sorry for commenting.

Unlike all the other teams at low altitude we can't keep the bigs in all the time..

Dumervil can indeed play the run and would most likely be real good at it IF he was not being double teamed. Get him a couple of quality DT that merit double teams and our 250+ pound DE can take on RBs quite well.

[HolyDiver]

I would take Sedrick Ellis #1 if he falls to our pick............ He will make the three W's, Williams, Winborn and Webster, better.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I would take Sedrick Ellis #1 if he falls to our pick............ He will make the three W's, Williams, Winborn and Webster, better.

Not if Bates is still running the show on defense. He would under utilize him just like he does Marcus Thomas.

[G_Money]

What he said.

I wouldn't take Ellis (or any DT) in the 1st, but I'd suck it up if Bates isn't here.

If Bates IS here, then all talk of a 1st round DT should be shelved. Ellis's skills would be wasted in a Bates D.

Spend the 1st day picks on Bates-proof players at S and LB in that case - though I'm still hoping we do that whether or not Bates is here.

Good DL are almost always found on the 1st day...but the bust rate is like 75% or something atrocious as well. I want a less-risky pick, since we have so many need areas as it is.

~G

[MHCBill]

Agree... less risk going with Phillips than a DT.

Lost of holes to fill, take the one sure playmaker that won't be effected by whomever the D-coordinator is.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

thats a good mock young. My dude just told me Charles was coming out. I think i have to change my mock now myself. Always loved Charles. Reminds me of CP and we all know how i think Portis is the best Broncos back ever.

[MHCBill]

Yea, Portis was much better than that guy named Davis.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Yea, Portis was much better than that guy named Davis.

Im glad you know that also. Portis was the man. Davis is a close 2nd.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

Agree... less risk going with Phillips than a DT.

Lost of holes to fill, take the one sure playmaker that won't be effected by whomever the D-coordinator is.

Yep cant really go wrong with a Miami Play making Safety. Hes nothing but greatness waiting to happen.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Finally...someone agrees Phillips is worthy of our #1.

[Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal]

I dont see anybody worth taking at pick 12 unless its Phillips. If hes not there we can still trade back and pick up one of the top LB's or Desean Jackson<<<Love this guy

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I'm not a DeSean fan. He has been underproductive for all the fanfare. He would be a good returnman, but I wouldn't want to use a first rounder on him. Gimme Darius Reynaud in the 4th or 5th.

[mopatt24]

I'm not a DeSean fan. He has been underproductive for all the fanfare. He would be a good returnman, but I wouldn't want to use a first rounder on him. Gimme Darius Reynaud in the 4th or 5th.


THAT would be a nice pick up in the later rounds!!

[lex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pm0y9Pol04&feature=related

Check out Charles' speed. Id either want Charles or Mendenhall. Mendenhall ran a 10.6 in HS. Charles is the fastest RB in the draft but Iworry about his durability. Man, is he fast though. And Id actually take Otah in Rd 1. Im an advocate of signing a few FAs to play defense. On the line we have a lot of youth and getting another young guy will only extend the learning curve. At safety, we really need a guy who we know can play now and Id rather get Gibril Wilson and draft a safety in the mid rounds and/or draft a better safety when its not such a weak year for safeties. Red Bryant might be a value pick as a DT later.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I love this hit by him in the Texas vs. Ohio St. game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEsmN4vluA&feature=related

[BOSSHOGG30]

Jamaal Charles video... Must watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXT9udOTu20&feature=related

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Is Charles a first day prospect? There are a bunch of good RBs this year. Felix, McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Rice.......

This may be good if Shanny really likes him. He may be there in the 4th or 5th for us.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Is Charles a first day prospect? There are a bunch of good RBs this year. Felix, McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Rice.......

This may be good if Shanny really likes him. He may be there in the 4th or 5th for us.

He will go on the 1st day for sure... His speed is too good to pass up. If he makes it past the 2nd round I will pull all my hair out.

[BOSSHOGG30]

My new mock now that Bates is gone:

1st round: DT, Sedrick Ellis, 6’1” 305lbs., USC
A disruptive, penetrating interior defensive lineman. At his best in a one-gap scheme but has some versatility due to experience as a nose tackle and three-technique. He is extremely disruptive versus the run. Displays outstanding initial burst and wins most of his battles with first-step quickness. Uses long arms to keep separation and does an excellent job of disengaging from blocks and keeping on the move. Recognition skills are very good and he's athletic enough to change directions and pursue once he penetrates the backfield. He consistently generates pressure as a pass rusher. Shows upper-echelon closing burst for his position and also does a good job of batting down passes once he realizes he's not getting to the QB. Plays with a great motor and works very hard on and off the field. Never gives up on a play and his effort is infectious.

2nd round: RB, Jamaal Charles, 6'1" 205 lbs., Texas
The lightning-fast junior ran for 1,619 yards and 18 touchdowns, averaging 6.3 yards per carry and eclipsing 100 yards seven times. He rushed for a career-high 290 yards against Nebraska on Oct. 27 and was a fourth-quarter force in that game and down the stretch overall. He is an incredible back who many compare to RB Clinton Portis.

4th round: OT, Duane Brown, 6’4” 300 lbs., Virginia Tech
Has a quick first step and flashes the ability to get into position quickly. Gets adequate hand placement, has active feet and flashes the ability to sustain. Moves well laterally, can reach defenders lined up over outside shoulder and can seal the edge. Gets into pass set quickly and uses long arms to ride edge rushers past the pocket. Footwork is inconsistent and is vulnerable to double moves but can redirect in pass protection and has the potential to develop into a very good pass blocker once gains more experience. Moved from tight end to tackle in 2005 and can still line up there in goal line situations. Tall, times jumps fairly well and blocked a field goal attempt last year.

4th round: S, Marcus Griffin, 5’11” 200 lbs., Texas
Possesses above average straight-line speed for his position. Is instinctive, tough and aggressive. Is powerful for his size. Fills hard versus the run and isn't afraid to sacrifice his body. Shows good initial pop as a tackler and does a fine job of wrapping up in space. Plays under control and does a good job of tackling low versus bigger ball carriers. Possesses enough athleticism and speed to cover a deep-half of the field in cover-2 zone. Displays good potential on special teams. Is a quiet leader by example and has good overall intangibles.

5th round: OLB, Andrew Studebaker, 6’3” 245lbs., Wheaton
Anyone who can run a 4.47 at 245 pounds has my interest. The kid might be from a small school, but he has all the measures of a NFL player. I take a shot on this kid in the 5th round without any hesitations. He played defensive end in college but I think he transitions better as an outside linebacker in the NFL. OLB Jarod Mayo is another option here.

5th round: OLB, Chris Graham, 5’11” 235 lbs., Michigan
Is fast with good overall athleticism. Displays good closing burst in pursuit and changes directions quickly for his position. He is at his best in space. Does a fine job of breaking down and wrapping up in the open field. He possesses the quickness and fluidity to hold up one-on-one versus most quicker backs out of the backfield. He has versatility having played MIKE and WILL. He has experience on special teams and shows enough speed and toughness to contribute covering kicks at the next level.

7th round: FB, Jerome Felton,5’11” 245lbs., Furman
If Lorenzo Neal had a clone it would be Felton. Excellent run blocker. Punishing hitter. Furman fullback Jerome Felton has been named to the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) Athletic Directors Association Academic All-Star Team, the organization has announced. Felton, a 6-foot, 239-pound senior, was one of 51 FCS players named to the annual squad, which honors superior performance on the field and in the classroom. A four-year starter, the Madisonville, Tenn., native and three-time All-Southern Conference selection rushed for a team leading 705 yards and 12 touchdowns this year and finished his career as the top rushing fullback (2,652 yards) in Furman history and the school's all-time leading scorer (414 points). He carries a 3.28 grade point average in political science.

7th round: P, Mike Dragosavich, 6’5” 210 lbs., North Dakota St.
2007 All-Great West Conference First Team: Punter Mike Dragosavich North Dakota State 6-5 215 Sr. Oak Lawn, Ill., a three-time all-Great West Football Conference selection, Dragosavich averaged a league-leading 45.4 yards per punt. He had 11 punts inside the 20 and eight touchbacks on 27 attempts. Dragosavich had a season-best punt of 70 yards in the 41-38 win over nationally-ranked Sam Houston State (9-15-07). His 45.4 yard average would rank second in NCAA Division I Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) schools. However, he needed to average 3.6 punts per game to qualify in the national rankings.

[MHCBill]

Nice work Boss.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Nice draft...although I don't see Ellis getting past Cincy. If Shanny wants him he may need to make a move.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Nice draft...although I don't see Ellis getting past Cincy. If Shanny wants him he may need to make a move.

If Ellis is gone I go Tyson Jackson , DE LSU, Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State, or Campbell, Calais Campbell DE Miami , but I really think Ellis will be there at 12.

This is how I see it shake down:

1) Miami: Dorsey
2) Rams: Jake Long
3) Raiders: McFadden
4) Falcons: Matt Ryan
5) Chiefs: Chris Long
6) Jets: Laurinaitis
7) Patriots: Conner
8) Ravens: Brohm
9) Bengals: Phillips
10) Saints: Malcolm Jenkins
11) Bills: Mike Jenkins
12) Broncos: Ellis

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I think Bmore can really gum up the works. Some "experts" are saying they expect 3 QBs to go in the top 10. I personally don't see it. Troy Smith showed something in his limited time and that may enable them to go outside the QB spot. They could also really use OT and WR help.

And I still think Cincy goes DT before S.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

If Ellis is gone I go Tyson Jackson , DE LSU, Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State, or Campbell, Calais Campbell DE Miami , but I really think Ellis will be there at 12.



OK..if we go DE, who is the odd man out among Moss, Elvis and Crowder?

[BOSSHOGG30]

OK..if we go DE, who is the odd man out among Moss, Elvis and Crowder?

Would have to wait and see in practices. Moss hasn't shown much and will be coming back after a serious injury. I'm not looking forward to starting the season with an injuried DE with little experience, a small DE who struggles against the run and then Crowder who I actually think will be the best of all of them.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I think Bmore can really gum up the works. Some "experts" are saying they expect 3 QBs to go in the top 10. I personally don't see it. Troy Smith showed something in his limited time and that may enable them to go outside the QB spot. They could also really use OT and WR help.

And I still think Cincy goes DT before S.

You are probably right. If Kenny nor Ellis are there at 12, I think Denver should trade back and pick up Balmer then.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I would definitely agree that at 12, given the draft's LB depth, it's gotta be Ellis or KP.

[CoachChaz]

If Ellis is gone I go Tyson Jackson , DE LSU, Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State, or Campbell, Calais Campbell DE Miami , but I really think Ellis will be there at 12.

This is how I see it shake down:

1) Miami: Dorsey
2) Rams: Jake Long
3) Raiders: McFadden
4) Falcons: Matt Ryan
5) Chiefs: Chris Long
6) Jets: Laurinaitis
7) Patriots: Conner
8) Ravens: Brohm
9) Bengals: Phillips
10) Saints: Malcolm Jenkins
11) Bills: Mike Jenkins
12) Broncos: Ellis

I have to add input on this.

1. Miami - Chris Long...Miami runs a 3-4 and Dorsey is not a DE nor a NT. Miami goes with Long, who is a Parcelss type of guy.
2. STL - Dorsey...I think they jump at the chance to put Dorsey and Carriker together on their DL
3. OAK - Jake Long...all the money they put into Russell...they'll want to prtect him
4. ATL - Darren McFadden...I think Petersen showed us that a stud RB can turn a mediocre team into a playoff contender.
5. KC - Sedrick Ellis...Boone and Dalton are not the answer and there is OL depth that allows this pick.
6. NYJ - Vernon Gholston...They need a DE and while Campbell may have a bigger upside, Gholston is going to put up some wicked workout numbers.
7. NE - James Laurainitis...assuming he declares, the rich will get richer.
8. BAL - Matt Ryan...McNair is done and Boller never will be
9. CIN - Dan Connor...Cincy defense needs alot of help
10. NO - Mike Jenkins...Secondary help is a must
11. BUF - Calais Campbell...kid will be a stud in a few years
12. DEN - Kenny Phillips...simply the best player available at an area of need.
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[claymore]

I have to add input on this.

1. Miami - Chris Long...Miami runs a 3-4 and Dorsey is not a DE nor a NT. Miami goes with Long, who is a Parcelss type of guy.
2. STL - Dorsey...I think they jump at the chance to put Dorsey and Carriker together on their DL
3. OAK - Jake Long...all the money they put into Russell...they'll want to prtect him
4. ATL - Darren McFadden...I think Petersen showed us that a stud RB can turn a mediocre team into a playoff contender.
5. KC - Sedrick Ellis...Boone and Dalton are not the answer and there is OL depth that allows this pick.
6. NYJ - Vernon Gholston...They need a DE and while Campbell may have a bigger upside, Gholston is going to put up some wicked workout numbers.
7. NE - James Laurainitis...assuming he declares, the rich will get richer.
8. BAL - Matt Ryan...McNair is done and Boller never will be
9. CIN - Dan Connor...Cincy defense needs alot of help
10. NO - Mike Jenkins...Secondary help is a must
11. BUF - Calais Campbell...kid will be a stud in a few years
12. DEN - Kenny Phillips...simply the best player available at an area of need.I agree with your top 12, but I cannot see St Louis passing on Jake Long, So I see Oakland, and St Lois swapping picks.

[CoachChaz]

I agree with your top 12, but I cannot see St Louis passing on Jake Long, So I see Oakland, and St Lois swapping picks.

I don't know. With the OT depth in this draft they could wait til round 2 or 3 to get a really good one. Plus Alex Barron isn't the worst option there for another year.
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[claymore]

I don't know. With the OT depth in this draft they could wait til round 2 or 3 to get a really good one. Plus Alex Barron isn't the worst option there for another year.Yeah, that team just wasnt the same this year without Pace. But Dorsey and Carriker would be sick for years to come.

[BOSSHOGG30]

You have KC picking up another DT, but didn't they draft two DT last year?

[HolyDiver]

You have KC picking up another DT, but didn't they draft two DT last year?

They need Corners badly..............Both are getting up there. But imagine there D-line of Allen, Sedrick Ellis, Hali, and, well, whoever started at DT last season..............Just those three alone would create alot of pressure.

[CoachChaz]

They could go DB or even OT, but if they did, then I would imagine Cincy would jump on Ellis
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[BOSSHOGG30]

They could go DB or even OT, but if they did, then I would imagine Cincy would jump on Ellis

Cincy will go Linebacker or Safety, I would think. They don't have anyone at safety now that Madieu Williams is leaving and they were horrible against the run so I think LB is there #1 priority, unless they think Ellis is their answer to stopping the run.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

ELLIS to Cincy...mark it down.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Boatman is terrible (Florida State fan with an honest opinion), and secondly - I'm curious as to your basis for Drago knowing how to punt in cold weather. Care to elaborate? He punts inside in a dome, and North Dakota State doesn't have many road games in cold weather. They practice outside, but the weather hasn't been that bad outside and in all honesty, he doesn't have the "cold weather" punting experience you claim. (I'd know, I go to school there. I've seen Drago play extensively the past three years.) Also, our college doesn't have any TV deals, so I don't think you'd ever get to see them on DirectTV, besides the Minnesota game - that'd probably be it. They have a hard time even airing the games for people living near Fargo on TV.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Boatman is terrible (Florida State fan with an honest opinion), and secondly - I'm curious as to your basis for Drago knowing how to punt in cold weather. Care to elaborate? He punts inside in a dome, and North Dakota State doesn't have many road games in cold weather. They practice outside, but the weather hasn't been that bad outside and in all honesty, he doesn't have the "cold weather" punting experience you claim. (I'd know, I go to school there. I've seen Drago play extensively the past three years.) Also, our college doesn't have any TV deals, so I don't think you'd ever get to see them on DirectTV, besides the Minnesota game - that'd probably be it. They have a hard time even airing the games for people living near Fargo on TV.

You kind of rub off like you are calling me a liar, or you think I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe it's just the way I read or something. I would care to elaborate.

1st: I'm not making crap up. I saw North Dakota St. play at least two games this year and yes I do have Direct TV. I saw an early game on one of the FSN channels I believe it was against Stephen F. Austin and the other game was the Minnesota game that was on the Big Ten Network. Last year I saw them play Minnesota and UC Davis.

2nd: As for the cold weather punting I know Gary Kerhonen and he comes to more than a few coaching clinics with me. I've been to a few in Illinois and he has been to a few at Penn State. I've also been to one with him in Texas. Maybe you know Gary Kerhonen since you know so much about football. Anyways Gary Kerhonen says that Drago as you call him was one of the better cold weather kickers he has seen. He also said that Drago was one heck of a wide receiver. So unless Gary doesn't know what he is talking about, then you know something we both don't know.

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I figured those would have been the games you saw, because I know NDSU doesn't get on the TV that much. On the second note, from what I have read, Gary coached him in high school, and yeah - Drago was a pretty damn good wide receiver, but he can boot the hell out of the ball so he punts here. (Other reasons, but you might know, so I won't get into them.)

Perhaps he got some experience kicking in the cold out in Illinois, but Dragosivich really never had that opportunity to do that here. He's had the luxury of playing road games in warmer weather or other dorms, and he plays in a dome here at NDSU. It's a shame NDSU raped so much on offense, he barely got to punt. He's damn good though, and I'd love to have him here.

Several teams have been around NDSU sniffing for him and a few other guys, but he seems the most draftable. San Francisco, Jacksonville and Oakland have been up here for sure (which is really interesting) and I know that Mike had received a letter from the Raiders showing their interest in him as a player, which is sort of funny considering they have Lechler.

I just wanted a little clarification, because at NDSU, it'd be rare for Mike to have an experience kicking in cold weather outside practices, and honestly - the weather hasn't been that bad here when they practice outside in the Fall.

[broncosinindy]

My new mock now that Bates is gone:

1st round: DT, Sedrick Ellis, 6’1” 305lbs., USC
A disruptive, penetrating interior defensive lineman. At his best in a one-gap scheme but has some versatility due to experience as a nose tackle and three-technique. He is extremely disruptive versus the run. Displays outstanding initial burst and wins most of his battles with first-step quickness. Uses long arms to keep separation and does an excellent job of disengaging from blocks and keeping on the move. Recognition skills are very good and he's athletic enough to change directions and pursue once he penetrates the backfield. He consistently generates pressure as a pass rusher. Shows upper-echelon closing burst for his position and also does a good job of batting down passes once he realizes he's not getting to the QB. Plays with a great motor and works very hard on and off the field. Never gives up on a play and his effort is infectious.

2nd round: RB, Jamaal Charles, 6'1" 205 lbs., Texas
The lightning-fast junior ran for 1,619 yards and 18 touchdowns, averaging 6.3 yards per carry and eclipsing 100 yards seven times. He rushed for a career-high 290 yards against Nebraska on Oct. 27 and was a fourth-quarter force in that game and down the stretch overall. He is an incredible back who many compare to RB Clinton Portis.

4th round: OT, Duane Brown, 6’4” 300 lbs., Virginia Tech
Has a quick first step and flashes the ability to get into position quickly. Gets adequate hand placement, has active feet and flashes the ability to sustain. Moves well laterally, can reach defenders lined up over outside shoulder and can seal the edge. Gets into pass set quickly and uses long arms to ride edge rushers past the pocket. Footwork is inconsistent and is vulnerable to double moves but can redirect in pass protection and has the potential to develop into a very good pass blocker once gains more experience. Moved from tight end to tackle in 2005 and can still line up there in goal line situations. Tall, times jumps fairly well and blocked a field goal attempt last year.

4th round: S, Marcus Griffin, 5’11” 200 lbs., Texas
Possesses above average straight-line speed for his position. Is instinctive, tough and aggressive. Is powerful for his size. Fills hard versus the run and isn't afraid to sacrifice his body. Shows good initial pop as a tackler and does a fine job of wrapping up in space. Plays under control and does a good job of tackling low versus bigger ball carriers. Possesses enough athleticism and speed to cover a deep-half of the field in cover-2 zone. Displays good potential on special teams. Is a quiet leader by example and has good overall intangibles.

5th round: OLB, Andrew Studebaker, 6’3” 245lbs., Wheaton
Anyone who can run a 4.47 at 245 pounds has my interest. The kid might be from a small school, but he has all the measures of a NFL player. I take a shot on this kid in the 5th round without any hesitations. He played defensive end in college but I think he transitions better as an outside linebacker in the NFL. OLB Jarod Mayo is another option here.

5th round: OLB, Chris Graham, 5’11” 235 lbs., Michigan
Is fast with good overall athleticism. Displays good closing burst in pursuit and changes directions quickly for his position. He is at his best in space. Does a fine job of breaking down and wrapping up in the open field. He possesses the quickness and fluidity to hold up one-on-one versus most quicker backs out of the backfield. He has versatility having played MIKE and WILL. He has experience on special teams and shows enough speed and toughness to contribute covering kicks at the next level.

7th round: FB, Jerome Felton,5’11” 245lbs., Furman
If Lorenzo Neal had a clone it would be Felton. Excellent run blocker. Punishing hitter. Furman fullback Jerome Felton has been named to the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) Athletic Directors Association Academic All-Star Team, the organization has announced. Felton, a 6-foot, 239-pound senior, was one of 51 FCS players named to the annual squad, which honors superior performance on the field and in the classroom. A four-year starter, the Madisonville, Tenn., native and three-time All-Southern Conference selection rushed for a team leading 705 yards and 12 touchdowns this year and finished his career as the top rushing fullback (2,652 yards) in Furman history and the school's all-time leading scorer (414 points). He carries a 3.28 grade point average in political science.

7th round: P, Mike Dragosavich, 6’5” 210 lbs., North Dakota St.
2007 All-Great West Conference First Team: Punter Mike Dragosavich North Dakota State 6-5 215 Sr. Oak Lawn, Ill., a three-time all-Great West Football Conference selection, Dragosavich averaged a league-leading 45.4 yards per punt. He had 11 punts inside the 20 and eight touchbacks on 27 attempts. Dragosavich had a season-best punt of 70 yards in the 41-38 win over nationally-ranked Sam Houston State (9-15-07). His 45.4 yard average would rank second in NCAA Division I Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) schools. However, he needed to average 3.6 punts per game to qualify in the national rankings.

i could be ok with this draft.

[BOSSHOGG30]

There was a mock draft prior to all the underclassmen committing (although the majority were included) that a couple of us participated in. Here were the results for Denver:

1. Michael Oher, OL, 'Ol Miss
2. Shawn Crable, LB, Michigan (the only pick made by a non- Bronco fan)
4a. DaJuan Morgan, S, North Carolina State
4b. DJ Hall, WR, Alabama
5a. Demario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State (best avail DT at that spot)
5b. Matt Forte, RB, Tulkane

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I don't know much about Morgan, but noticed he did declare. What ya got on him Hogg?

[BOSSHOGG30]

I don't know much about Morgan, but noticed he did declare. What ya got on him Hogg?

I like him, but I don't know if he will last that long in the draft. I he one of the better true safeties available. Another one of those complete guys, good tackle, good in coverage.

[CoachChaz]

Morgan is a guy that is all over the field. Seems to be involved in every play. I'd definatle like a guy like that on the team.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Broncos draft Michael Oher if we went O-line in the 1st round. I like the fact that he is already as good as he is and he is still unpolished. He has lots of room for improvement and that is just scary.

[CoachChaz]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Broncos draft Michael Oher if we went O-line in the 1st round. I like the fact that he is already as good as he is and he is still unpolished. He has lots of room for improvement and that is just scary.

Oher or Otah would be okay with me...but prefereably if we moved down. Not sure I want to apens #12 on either of them.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Oher or Otah would be okay with me...but prefereably if we moved down. Not sure I want to apens #12 on either of them.

True.. I'm actually hoping we trade down and get Oher in the 1st and add another 1st day pick to help one of our many needs.

[CoachChaz]

True.. I'm actually hoping we trade down and get Oher in the 1st and add another 1st day pick to help one of our many needs.

I'd think we could get a lower first and a 2nd for our first and one of our 5ths.

[BOSSHOGG30]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FhlbsJUJ9Q

Check out this video on Michael Oher if you haven't seen it yet... Not really about his talent or anything but great story... touching.

[BOSSHOGG30]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL_cF5m_jqw

Another great James Davis video

[Skinny]

Lot of really good RBs in this Draft ... you think Davis slips all the way to the 4th BOSS??

[BOSSHOGG30]

Lot of really good RBs in this Draft ... you think Davis slips all the way to the 4th BOSS??

I have no idea... I think he received a 2nd round grade, but that doesn't mean much. I'm not sure how well he is viewed around the league. I've liked the kid since his freshman year... ask the Freak's... I've wanted this guy for awhile now so I'm a homer when it comes do James Davis. I couldn't give you a true perspective view because if it was up to me he would be a 2nd or 3rd rounder easy.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

How about this?

Rd 1-Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC....OR......Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)
Rd 2-Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee
Rd 3 (via trade)-James Davis, RB, Clemson
Rd 4a-Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
Rd 4b-Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
Rd 5a-Jamie Silva, S, Boston College.......OR........DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State
Rd 5b-Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
Rd 6-Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
Rd 7a-Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia
Rd 7b-Antonio Reynolds, DE, Tennessee

And I'm not on the WVU jock, but obtainable players at certain spots seem to be from there. What do ya think?

[Skinny]

Yeah i read a 3rd round grade too, that's why i was thinking maybe he could possibly slip but considering the talent that he is, i would'nt think he'd make it out of the 3rd round. Just wanted to pick yer brain ...

Homer is good as long as it does'nt blind you ...

[BOSSHOGG30]

How about this?

Rd 1-Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC....OR......Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)
Rd 2-Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee
Rd 3 (via trade)-James Davis, RB, Clemson
Rd 4a-Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
Rd 4b-Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
Rd 5a-Jamie Silva, S, Boston College.......OR........DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State
Rd 5b-Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
Rd 6-Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
Rd 7a-Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia
Rd 7b-Antonio Reynolds, DE, Tennessee

And I'm not on the WVU jock, but obtainable players at certain spots seem to be from there. What do ya think?


Good one Assassin..... That would be nice...not sure if some of those guys will be there in the later rounds though... but you never know.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Good one Assassin..... That would be nice...not sure if some of those guys will be there in the later rounds though... but you never know.

Yeah...Pressley likely won't be. I think Arrington will be though. Lots of WRs coming out of the wood work.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Yeah...Pressley likely won't be. I think Arrington will be though. Lots of WRs coming out of the wood work.

I think we like to draft with the invision that everyone and every potition we pick will develop nicely, but the fact is that odds of that happening aren't very good, so it might be wise for the Broncos to pick like 3 or 4 areas they want to upgrade and draft heavy in those positions. You might not need to do that for whatever you pick in the 1st and 2nd rounds, but 3rd round on it might be wise.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

That's why I went w/ multiple DL and WR. We let a lot go by the wayside by only having 4 pix in 2007 and using 3 of em on DL. We now need depth all over.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I'm still hoping we trade back and draft OT Michael Oher. It would be fun watching him block some of those loud mouth Charger players.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Did Oher declare?

[BOSSHOGG30]

Did Oher declare?

Yeah yesterday
http://www.olemisssports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPID=737&DB_OEM_ID=2600&SPSID=12787&ATCLID=1368630

[SmilinAssasSin27]

WOW...missed that one. You don't think he's top 12?

I'd be willing to bet by the time it's all said and done, he has a Merrimanesque jump and he goes top 10. I can already see the GMs drooling on the potential for greatness.

[BOSSHOGG30]

WOW...missed that one. You don't think he's top 12?

I'd be willing to bet by the time it's all said and done, he has a Merrimanesque jump and he goes top 10. I can already see the GMs drooling on the potential for greatness.

If he is a top 12 pick... he is my guy... he is just too good to pass up. I like him more than Kenny Phillips and Sedrick Ellis.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

He'd definitely help in the redzone and short yardage. I just wonder if he's athletic enough for our system. The bits and pieces I've seen say he should be, but I haven't seen THAT much of him.

[BOSSHOGG30]

He'd definitely help in the redzone and short yardage. I just wonder if he's athletic enough for our system. The bits and pieces I've seen say he should be, but I haven't seen THAT much of him.

He is really athletic for a guy his size... moves well, very quick, and a pure mauler. He even plays basketball on the side, so you know he can move.

[BOSSHOGG30]

I wonder if Kansas City will take him before we can though?

[G_Money]

Oher IS a mauler. The story about him running the kid off the field and trying to stuff him on the bus still makes me laugh.

He's also not the brightest crayon in the box.

Our OL scheme is...complex. I would love to add a physical talent like Oher if we think he can pick up the system, but it's more complicated than what he was doing at Ole Miss.

We know he'll have a great support group with him, though, which is more than we can say about a lot of picks.

I don't think he'll go top-11 (meaning he'd be there if we wanted him), but I've been wrong before. I don't think the Chiefs even employ a blocking scheme any more, so they probably wouldn't worry about that part of the equation at all.

~G

[Mike]

KC's O-line has to be a priority for them. I can't see them passing that up.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

nice dig on KC.

[BOSSHOGG30]

Oher IS a mauler. The story about him running the kid off the field and trying to stuff him on the bus still makes me laugh.

He's also not the brightest crayon in the box.

Our OL scheme is...complex. I would love to add a physical talent like Oher if we think he can pick up the system, but it's more complicated than what he was doing at Ole Miss.

We know he'll have a great support group with him, though, which is more than we can say about a lot of picks.

I don't think he'll go top-11 (meaning he'd be there if we wanted him), but I've been wrong before. I don't think the Chiefs even employ a blocking scheme any more, so they probably wouldn't worry about that part of the equation at all.

~G

He isn't the brightest crayon in the box? I have to disagree... He is a very good student. He is a very fast learner.

[BigDaddyBronco]

He isn't the brightest crayon in the box? I have to disagree... He is a very good student. He is a very fast learner.
We'll see what his Wonderlic is. I would have had a pretty good GPA if I took what some of these guys took in college.

[G_Money]

Oher has learned extremely quickly considering where he came from. He has a great adoptive family that rallies around him, supports him, and makes sure he stays on track.

He's a really good kid, and I don't have any problem with us drafting him (though we should be able to move back and pick him up fine).

But we took a shot on a big giant kid to play tackle for us in the first round, who turned out to be slow picking up the system, non-committal to playing hard, and was soft. Shanny's gun-shy about a repeat of that mistake.

I don't think Oher is soft or non-committal, but his interviews at the combine are going to be THE key for how high he gets drafted, because his physical potential is still barely being tapped.

He and Clady are the two most interesting tackle prospects in the draft for me, and their stock could be fairly volatile. If we draft a tackle, I'd take the one that drops a bit and call it a good day.

~G

[G_Money]

We'll see what his Wonderlic is. I would have had a pretty good GPA if I took what some of these guys took in college.

Oher couldn't read in High School. That doesn't mean he's dumb, just that he was never taught to read, and he never went to school really before HS. His learning curve was very steep.


He wasn't an instant sensation on his high-school team, which he joined only in his junior year. Illiterate, Oher rated below-average on IQ tests and sometimes had trouble remembering plays. "When he knew what he was supposed to do, though, the guy across from him was in trouble," says Lewis, who describes video footage of a rival team's defensive linemen hightailing it from Oher every time they heard "Hike!"

Big Mike dwarfed everyone else in his class, but he was dead last academically. His adoptive family took care of that, though: For Sean Tuohy — not exactly the kind of guy who cracks open a book whenever he sinks into his La-Z-Boy — "all of a sudden," Lewis says, "it's his job to read to his son." Oher's class standing soon inched up to 160 out of 161 students.

When Oher's intelligence was measured again, his score had risen thirty points, and today he's about to make the dean's list at Ole Miss: a distinction, Lewis quips, that "will probably trigger an investigation," considering that the twenty-year-old is still not exactly Rhodes scholarship material.

He's done really well. I don't expect him to ace the Wonderlic.

And none of that means a darn thing as far as football IQ goes. He's not stupid, he was untutored. Now that he's been tutored, and passed classes, and done well at Ole Miss, the things that matters to us as Broncos fans is whether he can master the ZB system we use - and quickly.

If he can, then draft him. None of his other physical skills are really up for much debate. The Broncos just run a Master's Class in the zone scheme, and Oher's time at Ole Miss may not have prepared him enough for it. We'll see.

~G