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Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-29-2007, 03:19 PM
Of course my mocks change like every week but this is my first one. Tell me what yall think.

Round 1, Pick# 7 - Kenny Phillips, (S) Miami
Round 2, Pick# 7 - Frank Okam (DT)Texas
Round 4, Pick# 7 - Jordan Dizon, (OLB) CU
Round 5, Pick# 4 - Brandon Miller, (MLB) Georgia
Round 5, Pick# 7 - Doniie Avery, (WR) Houston
Round 6, Pick# 7 - John Greco, (OG) Toledo
Round 6, Pick# 24 - Durant Brooks, (P) G Tech
Round 7, Pick# 7 - Jason Shirley,(DT) Fresno St

So i went with Kenny Phillips out of Miami because we have been lacking an impact Safety for YEARS, Him and Hamza back there could be a very good tandem. Went with Frank Okam in round 2 because hes a big athletic DT with great power to line up next to our young stud Marcus Thomas and take pressure off the LB's fighting to get off blocks. Went with Jordan Dizon because hes a tackling machine, Always around the ball in the back field, Great Hustle. Went with Big Brandon because we need a MLB, A TRUE MLB who can shed blockers and not miss gaps making big time tackles. Oh yeah this is assuming the Broncos get smart and move DJ back to weakside where he belongs.......Next i went with Donnie Avery, This guy is a amazing talent at wide out and in the KR/PR game and we need one of those BAD. Big time deep threat for Cutty to go long with. Went with John greco next because well Kuper sucks. Need i say more? Of course i had to draft a Punter, Dont know if he will be around that long but heyyyy. Last but not least just adding depth to the DL with another big DT. So theres my first mock

TXBRONC
12-29-2007, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't make safety the number one pick. Either defensive line or offensive line is fine with me. I think Okam would be good pick. But I don't see the need for MLB because Williams can anchor the middle. If we were going get a MLB the kid from OSU would be one I think we should get. Also I don't see wide receiver as pick we need to make. If get a receiver its going take at least a couple of years for the guy to develop.

yardog
12-29-2007, 04:26 PM
J-walk how do we get pick #7?

DenBronx
12-29-2007, 04:35 PM
okam and dizon would be good picks. i'm not too sure about your second day picks though, but overall good mock.

we do need to address ot too. i assume you think this is an area that can be fixed though free agency?

Retired_Member_001
12-29-2007, 06:45 PM
No offensive lineman in the first two rounds = bad mock. We need to provide Jay Cutler with some pass protection so he doesn't break his leg every time he drops back.

BOSSHOGG30
12-29-2007, 08:03 PM
J-walk... Denver has two 4th round picks

omac
12-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Lately, Denver's had 2 drafting habbits; 1st, they go multiple picks for a specific need .. there were the cornerback draft, then the DE draft; 2nd, they usually don't wait around for a pick to fall on their lap ... they want to make sure they don't lose a player they feel they really need, thus going up to draft Cutler, then lately, going up to draft Moss to make sure he isn't taken by anyone else.

By Denver's performance this season, the obvious weaknesses are both sides of the line, so that's what they'll work on, specially on defense. This might be the DT draft.

Okam is projected by some as the 3rd best senior DT, so I don't think it's in Denver's nature to wait for him to slip into the 2nd round to take him. I think Denver will really go for a DT in the 1st round, or maybe try and work a deal to get 2 1st rounders for DT and OT; don't know if that's possible though.

I don't think they'll get a safety in the 1st.

SmilinAssasSin27
12-29-2007, 09:31 PM
I have zero faith in any of the OT prospects some here covet. Gimme LB and Safety help early and sign proven FA OLine help. Rookie OLinemen will get Cutty killed. We need help NOW.

SmilinAssasSin27
12-29-2007, 09:46 PM
OK, here is my first crack at who I want. Bear with me as I am not 100% on where our pix are. I know we lost our #3, but we have a #4 from the Lelie deal and a #5 from the Warren deal...giving us 2 #4s I believe (although some say it may become a #4 as well). We also have our own #5, but lost #6 for Jimmy Kennedy. We also have 2 #7s for Plummer...so here we go:

Round 1
Dan Connor, LB, Penn State 6'3" 235
Connor can play either inside or out and was uber-productive at Penn State. I like Puz better, but dude can still play ball w/ the best of em.

Round 2
Jonathan Goff, MLB, Vanderbilt 6'4" 240
Big MLB to allow DJ to return to his rightful place outside. DJ, Connor and Goff would solidify a currently weak LB corps. Another option would be Beau Bell of UNLV who is 6'3" 245 or J Leman of Illinois who is 6'2" 237.

Round 4a
Craig Steltz, Safety, LSU 6'2" 209
Steltz is not your typical flashy big time playmaker at Safety, but he is a heady, strong, player who is a stable contributor in the mold of a John Lynch. Has the intangibles to be a great special teamer until it's his turn to supplant Lynch. Jamie Silva of Boston College also fits this mold.

Round 4b
Dre Moore, DT, Maryland 6'4" 311
Moore would be a nice complement to Marcus Thomas and has a bit more room to grow. Another option is the 324lb Red Bryant of Texas A&M.

Round 5a
Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State 6'6" 310
Barton is a solid well tested OT project who plays at a program which has a solid track record of producing solid OLinemen. I want an OT via FA, but we have nothing there otherwise...especially w/ Harris' injury.

Round 5b--SLEEPER SPECIAL!!!
Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia 5'10" 200
Dude is a flat out player. He is basically the only go to WR on a running team. He is a THREAT! Although short, he is sturdy and stout. He can be a dangerous returnman or be a great complement to our current WR corps. Donnie Avery of Houston is a burner who could fit nicely here as well.

2 pix in round 7
I'd like to take Louis Holmes, DE, Arizona and Anthony Hoke, OLB, Cincinnati.

***If we can somehow land Kenny Phillips in round 1, I would want to see a trade up into the late 2nd/early 3rd using a pick, Foxxy and/or Ian to obtain both Jon Goff AND Beau Bell or Ezra Butler, OLB from Nevada who is 6'2" 248.***

dogfish
12-30-2007, 12:01 AM
if we spend our 1st round pick on a safety i will weep like a small child-- then head down to dove valley and start shootin'. . . .

TXBRONC
12-30-2007, 12:10 AM
if we spend our 1st round pick on a safety i will weep like a small child-- then head down to dove valley and start shootin'. . . .

Well I hope you don't resort to such things even if we do draft a safety. That being said I don't think safety will be considered a high need area.

SmilinAssasSin27
12-30-2007, 12:17 AM
We currently have one half of a safety...who probably won't even come back. Safety is a NEED.

TXBRONC
12-30-2007, 12:32 AM
We currently have one half of a safety...who probably won't even come back. Safety is a NEED.

I don't think it's as big of need as offensive or defensive linemen of possibly outside linebacker.

SmilinAssasSin27
12-30-2007, 12:41 AM
I don't think it's as big of need as offensive or defensive linemen of possibly outside linebacker.

Well the OLine still depends on the health of 3 men who would vastly improve it. But I've also stated elsewhere that I prefer Free Agent OLinemen. I think LB is a definite need, but the draft is much deeper there than at the Safety spot. After Kenny Phillips, who is out there that can be that stud playmaker we've been missing? Nobody. Steltz, etc will be solid players and teams will be lucky to have em, but Phillips can be the Ed Reed type we've been crying about since we passed on him. We get a S in round 1 and the likes of Adibi, Goff, Leman, Butler, Bell, Crable, Hall, etc are all upgrades for us and can be had in rounds 2 or 3.

I don't necessarily think S is the biggest need, but I do see that there is more bang for our buck if we address that spot first.

broncosinindy
12-30-2007, 03:24 AM
Of course my mocks change like every week but this is my first one. Tell me what yall think.

Round 1, Pick# 7 - Kenny Phillips, (S) Miami
Round 2, Pick# 7 - Frank Okam (DT)Texas
Round 4, Pick# 7 - Jordan Dizon, (OLB) CU
Round 5, Pick# 4 - Brandon Miller, (MLB) Georgia
Round 5, Pick# 7 - Doniie Avery, (WR) Houston
Round 6, Pick# 7 - John Greco, (OG) Toledo
Round 6, Pick# 24 - Durant Brooks, (P) G Tech
Round 7, Pick# 7 - Jason Shirley,(DT) Fresno St

So i went with Kenny Phillips out of Miami because we have been lacking an impact Safety for YEARS, Him and Hamza back there could be a very good tandem. Went with Frank Okam in round 2 because hes a big athletic DT with great power to line up next to our young stud Marcus Thomas and take pressure off the LB's fighting to get off blocks. Went with Jordan Dizon because hes a tackling machine, Always around the ball in the back field, Great Hustle. Went with Big Brandon because we need a MLB, A TRUE MLB who can shed blockers and not miss gaps making big time tackles. Oh yeah this is assuming the Broncos get smart and move DJ back to weakside where he belongs.......Next i went with Donnie Avery, This guy is a amazing talent at wide out and in the KR/PR game and we need one of those BAD. Big time deep threat for Cutty to go long with. Went with John greco next because well Kuper sucks. Need i say more? Of course i had to draft a Punter, Dont know if he will be around that long but heyyyy. Last but not least just adding depth to the DL with another big DT. So theres my first mock

Not a fan of Shirely at ALL. Love Okam and Phillips. I think you have Dzon a little high other than that i would be really happy

TXBRONC
12-30-2007, 09:51 AM
Well the OLine still depends on the health of 3 men who would vastly improve it. But I've also stated elsewhere that I prefer Free Agent OLinemen. I think LB is a definite need, but the draft is much deeper there than at the Safety spot. After Kenny Phillips, who is out there that can be that stud playmaker we've been missing? Nobody. Steltz, etc will be solid players and teams will be lucky to have em, but Phillips can be the Ed Reed type we've been crying about since we passed on him. We get a S in round 1 and the likes of Adibi, Goff, Leman, Butler, Bell, Crable, Hall, etc are all upgrades for us and can be had in rounds 2 or 3.

I don't necessarily think S is the biggest need, but I do see that there is more bang for our buck if we address that spot first.


I agree safety is a need but if it were up to me I would not put that at the top of the list.

underrated29
12-30-2007, 09:54 AM
S is a need, but he doesnt nessacerily sp? help us stop the run. We got to stop the run first. As we have seen no teams are going to pass on us becuase they can run. So as its a need, it also isnt a primary one.

We also need to be able to run. And give jay some time.

I like ol and dl with our first picks.

I also think/ have been hearing that frank o will go in the first and not the 2nd. So we wont have the luxury to wait for him.


But i give ya props for doing the mock.

MOtorboat
12-30-2007, 10:20 AM
The highest pick we could have is 8th, but we have the second-best strength of schedule of any possible 6-10 teams, so we'd pick 11th at best. If we happen to win today, we could pick as low as 18th.

If we do pick somewhere in 12-18 range, I wouldn't mind Phillips. But taking him at 7 would be a mistake.

claymore
12-30-2007, 10:34 AM
The highest pick we could have is 8th, but we have the second-best strength of schedule of any possible 6-10 teams, so we'd pick 11th at best. If we happen to win today, we could pick as low as 18th.

If we do pick somewhere in 12-18 range, I wouldn't mind Phillips. But taking him at 7 would be a mistake.
Well the good news is we will know Tonight where we are picking. It sucks that one meaningless win could push our pick back so far..............

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 10:50 AM
J-walk how do we get pick #7?

If we lose and a couple other teams win we can pick as high as 7.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 10:53 AM
okam and dizon would be good picks. i'm not too sure about your second day picks though, but overall good mock.

we do need to address ot too. i assume you think this is an area that can be fixed though free agency?

Im assuimg Ryan Harris is coming back healthy, I really liked that pick last year and thought he could be a stud LT, With the signing of a great young guard like Jordan Gross in free agnecy. But once again this mock will most likely be differant next week lol i never stick with the same one untill a week before the draft. So as free agency kicks in i think everybody mock changes, And about drafting a WR is for Cutler to really use that big cannon arm and go deep. We have nobody who can get vertical in a hurry and make those safeties respect the long ball.

claymore
12-30-2007, 10:56 AM
Im assuimg Ryan Harris is coming back healthy, I really liked that pick last year and thought he could be a stud LT, With the signing of a great young guard like Jordan Gross in free agnecy. But once again this mock will most likely be differant next week lol i never stick with the same one untill a week before the draft. So as free agency kicks in i think everybody mock changes, And about drafting a WR is for Cutler to really use that big cannon arm and go deep. We have nobody who can get vertical in a hurry and make those safeties respect the long ball.
Lelie could have had a great year in 07........ That SOB.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 10:57 AM
I dont see how us Broncos fans could not want a impact Safety. I still wake up in cold sweats thinking we could have took Ed Reed over Ashley lelie..... The Impact Safety position has been lacking here since what? Atwater? And i agree with the person who said we dont need to draft a young OT this year, We got some young guys and a guy who i like personally in Ryan Harris, Plus theres some good OL in free agency that will help us right away who are still young in this league but proven.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 10:58 AM
Lelie could have had a great year in 07........ That SOB.

Yeah his long deep speed with Cutlers big arm would have been nice.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 10:59 AM
I didnt know we got a 4th round pick for Lelie though, Sheesh were pretty loaded with picks thisyear huh?:

Italianmobstr7
12-30-2007, 12:42 PM
I didnt know we got a 4th round pick for Lelie though, Sheesh were pretty loaded with picks thisyear huh?:

Would've been more loaded if we didn't throw away our 3rd round pick this year. Oh well though. I would love for Denver to draft Laurinitis, Connor, a good DT, or Phillips. I'll be happy with any of those. I think that we need to upgrade the O-line through Free Agency. Maybe get a guy like Faneca or Jordan Gross. I think that Ryan Harris sucks. I think he was our worst pick last year. He actually regressed in his senior season. We'll see though. Hopefully that wasn't a wasted pick. If we're going to get a WR I think we also need to address that through FA. Drafting a WR, he will take at minimum a year to develop into someone who could help us. I don't know who's available at WR in FA, but if we have Javon, Marshall, and Stokely, we may be okay with just those guys and then Martinez, or someone who can get vertical in a hurry.

Jwalk - JayCutty6Goes - CasinoRoyal
12-30-2007, 01:03 PM
Im over Javon Walker exspecially since he cant stay healthy, But as far as wide outs if they wanna take that route, Benard Berrian is a UFA, Bryant johnson is a UFA, Those are 2 guys id love to have as a number 2 when or if Javon Walker leaves. I dont trust his knee, Love the guys play when hes healthy though,

SmilinAssasSin27
12-30-2007, 07:44 PM
Likely to be #12 after today. 1 of the 3 of Connor, Phillips and Ellis will be there...if not all 3.

CoachChaz
12-30-2007, 08:27 PM
If Laurinitis doesn't enter the draft and/or isn't available...I'd go the Phillips route, too. Kid has the stuff to be better than Reed and Taylor.

Connor is too small to play inside and a mediocre and injured A&M line swallowed him way too many times last night.

We can draft all the DT's we want...if Bates is still here, their talent will only be wasted.

A solid OT like Otah is the only other player I'd be interested in.
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SmilinAssasSin27
12-30-2007, 09:00 PM
If Laurinitis doesn't enter the draft and/or isn't available...I'd go the Phillips route, too. Kid has the stuff to be better than Reed and Taylor.

Connor is too small to play inside and a mediocre and injured A&M line swallowed him way too many times last night.

We can draft all the DT's we want...if Bates is still here, their talent will only be wasted.

A solid OT like Otah is the only other player I'd be interested in.

Did we watch the same game last night? I admit I didn't see the whole thing, but dude was everywhere when I was watching. I didn't see him miss 1 tackle. I think he ended up w/ 9 or 10. Granted Lee looked very nice w/ a total in the mid teens, but I didn't see Connor as being overwhelmed at all.

CoachChaz
12-31-2007, 07:46 AM
Did we watch the same game last night? I admit I didn't see the whole thing, but dude was everywhere when I was watching. I didn't see him miss 1 tackle. I think he ended up w/ 9 or 10. Granted Lee looked very nice w/ a total in the mid teens, but I didn't see Connor as being overwhelmed at all.

He had quite a few tackles, but a top LB should do that when a team runs as much as A&M does. He will be a solid OLB, but he just got man-handled at the point of attack by alot of the lineman. More size and strength are needed.
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