Kyle Orton Better qb Rating then Tom Brady and Jay Cutler

[DenverDude88]

So to date through the first four games Kyle Orton has a better qb rating then Jay Cutler and Tom Brady.In fact has the seventh best qb rating in the NFL! Also he has consistently got better in every game he has played this year. SAY WHAT HATERS

[DenverDude88]

Here is the QB RATINGS LINK http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&season=2009&seasonType=REG

[CraigHwk]

QB Ratings can be silly.

[Chris90210]

So to date through the first four games Kyle Orton has a better qb rating then Jay Cutler and Tom Brady.In fact has the seventh best qb rating in the NFL! Also he has consistently got better in every game he has played this year. SAY WHAT HATERS


compare who they have played to who we have played.

[Watchthemiddle]

compare who they have played to who we have played.

:coffee::coffee:

So you can't be happy about YOUR QB and his rating, but would rather see him do worse then Jay and Tom?

[WARHORSE]

Kyle has things to work on...................and so does the rest of the team.




But just like being 4-0, you have to like where things are at right now. We want him to play better........but we as a team have gotten the job done and thats the main thing.



One thing for sure though, we're going to need him to play well this week if we have a chance to win.


My thought is..........Belichick is going to be bringing the heat in abundance come sunday.


We in turn, need to run the ball very well. We run the ball.......we win.

Just my opium though.............:coffee:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

QB Ratings can be silly.

Maybe so - but I find nothing silly about being 4 - 0

[DenverDude88]

compare who they have played to who we have played.

DUDE are you serious? JAY Cutler who have they played again? The Lions and Seahawks! Oh yeah there a whole lot better the cincinnati and dallas! Oh thats right jay cutler played green bay too and you know what they lost too and the bengals beat greenbay.

[rationalfan]

Just my opium though.............:coffee:

really? where are you getting that stuff?

[Chris90210]

DUDE are you serious? JAY Cutler who have they played again? The Lions and Seahawks! Oh yeah there a whole lot better the cincinnati and dallas! Oh thats right jay cutler played green bay too and you know what they lost too and the bengals beat greenbay.

i see the seacawks, gb and the squeelers being tougher than browns, cincy, and the kitchen raiders.

we really didn't beat cincy that was nothing but pure luck

[T.K.O.]

i see the seacawks, gb and the squeelers being tougher than browns, cincy, and the kitchen raiders.

we really didn't beat cincy that was nothing but pure luck

we missed 2 easy field goals that would have put the game away earlier....so no it was a combination of bad look and good luck.
sorry hate on the team if you want but soon you will be all alone hatin'

[T.K.O.]

post game quote from orton
"its not about me,if i throw for 100 yards or 300....i dont care as long as we win!"


and thats why ive been saying all along we might be a better team with orton than .....uhhhh another qb !:salute:

[Chris90210]

we missed 2 easy field goals that would have put the game away earlier....so no it was a combination of bad look and good luck.
sorry hate on the team if you want but soon you will be all alone hatin'
i'm not hating on the team i am saying we have not proven ourselves yet. after we get to week 10 we can say "all is well" or "i hope chicago enjoys their draft pick"

[EMB6903]

i see the seacawks, gb and the squeelers being tougher than browns, cincy, and the kitchen raiders.

we really didn't beat cincy that was nothing but pure luck

Quit acting like Denver's defense didnt shut the Bengals down for 55 minutes.

[DenverDude88]

i see the seacawks, gb and the squeelers being tougher than browns, cincy, and the kitchen raiders.

we really didn't beat cincy that was nothing but pure luck

First off we are 4-0, second off we are talking about qb rating even if denver was 3-1 which they are 4-0 kyle orton still has a lot higher qb rating then jay cutler. Seriously read a topic before you post HATER

[Chris90210]

Quit acting like Denver's defense didnt shut the Bengals down for 55 minutes.

no our defense has been amazing and can't wait to see what else nolan does with them. However we have had a pretty light schedule and the best is yet to come

[Chris90210]

First off we are 4-0, second off we are talking about qb rating even if denver was 3-1 which they are 4-0 kyle orton still has a lot higher qb rating then jay cutler. Seriously read a topic before you post HATER

why don't you dig into the stats first. If kyle still looks this good in week 10 then heck yea more power to him but right now it is way to damn early to be comparing orton to brady

[dogfish]

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(stolen from lord trychon :D)

[Bronco Warrior]

I'm glad Orton is playing dependable..if not inspired, football and love the 4-0, but let me know when Orton goes airbourne ala (Elways 3 and 8 for a first down SB) for a first down ok?

[Bronco Warrior]

And actually we hed Cincy with out a score for 59 minutes...just saying!

[broncobryce]

Good luck finding another Elway. I'm still looking for another TD, Sharpe, Smith, Mccaffrey, Atwater, etc.

[Tned]

Good luck finding another Elway. I'm still looking for another TD, Sharpe, Smith, Mccaffrey, Atwater, etc.

No love for the kicker?

[capetide]

So, Orton must be better than Brady!

[broncobryce]

Orton is the greatest QB in the history of the NFL...........at drinking.

[Northman]

At this rate, its really no different than how we've played thus far. Play good defense, force some turnovers, and dont turnover the ball ourselves.

Oh, and have our receivers catch passes. Something the Ravens receivers somehow lacked last week. lol

[topscribe]

I'm glad Orton is playing dependable..if not inspired, football and love the 4-0, but let me know when Orton goes airbourne ala (Elways 3 and 8 for a first down SB) for a first down ok?

:confused:

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[CrazyHorse]

Kyle Orton,
Trent Dilfer Redux!!! OH Yeah!!

[Chris90210]

Orton is the greatest QB in the history of the NFL...........at drinking.

naw hes going to lead the broncos to the 19-0 record man

he's so bad that he kicked chuck norris's ass:elefant:


:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Shazam!]

Name Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Sack YdsL Fum FumL

Peyton Manning IND 4 114.5 97 137 70.8 1336 334.0 9.8 9 3 2 15 1 0
Drew Brees NOR 4 108.4 87 129 67.4 1031 257.8 8.0 9 2 4 39 3 1
Eli Manning NYG 4 104.1 79 125 63.2 1039 259.8 8.3 8 2 2 16 3 2
Matt Ryan ATL 3 100.4 60 91 65.9 648 216.0 7.1 5 1 2 16 0 0
Matt Schaub HOU 4 98.6 80 129 62.0 1047 261.8 8.1 8 3 8 50 0 0
Ben Roethlisberger PIT 4 98.1 104 142 73.2 1193 298.3 8.4 5 4 10 84 1 0
Kyle Orton DEN 4 97.7 69 117 59.0 906 226.5 7.7 5 0 6 38 1 0
Aaron Rodgers GNB 3 97.2 51 90 56.7 714 238.0 7.9 4 0 12 92 1 0
Brett Favre MIN 3 94.5 61 94 64.9 566 188.7 6.0 5 1 9 59 0 0
Joe Flacco BAL 4 94.3 95 151 62.9 1103 275.8 7.3 8 3 5 39 2 0
Shaun Hill SFO 4 93.3 66 106 62.3 700 175.0 6.6 5 1 13 75 3 1
Philip Rivers SDG 4 90.6 88 150 58.7 1245 311.3 8.3 6 3 10 63 2 2
Jay Cutler CHI 4 89.3 83 129 64.3 901 225.3 7.0 8 5 8 46 5 1
David Garrard JAC 4 89.1 82 138 59.4 941 235.3 6.8 5 1 7 28 4 2
Kevin Kolb PHI 3 88.9 62 96 64.6 741 247.0 7.7 4 3 3 27 2 1
Jason Campbell WAS 4 85.5 81 124 65.3 963 240.8 7.8 5 5 8 51 5 2
Tom Brady NWE 4 83.7 108 174 62.1 1129 282.3 6.5 4 2 4 34 1 1
Kurt Warner ARI 3 83.5 80 122 65.6 863 287.7 7.1 4 4 7 69 2 0
Seneca Wallace SEA 4 82.6 74 112 66.1 645 161.3 5.8 3 2 8 45 4 2
Matt Cassel KAN 3 82.5 53 89 59.6 458 152.7 5.1 5 2 10 63 4 0
Tony Romo DAL 4 79.4 76 131 58.0 990 247.5 7.6 4 4 8 41 1 1
Trent Edwards BUF 4 76.5 70 117 59.8 790 197.5 6.8 5 5 16 95 1 0
Chad Pennington MIA 3 76.0 51 74 68.9 413 137.7 5.6 1 2 6 32 3 2
Carson Palmer CIN 4 75.2 79 137 57.7 845 211.3 6.2 6 5 9 62 1 0
Mark Sanchez NYJ 4 71.2 63 110 57.3 744 186.0 6.8 4 5 9 77 5 2
Byron Leftwich TAM 3 71.2 58 107 54.2 594 198.0 5.6 4 3 2 0 2 0
Marc Bulger STL 3 70.6 35 68 51.5 339 113.0 5.0 1 0 5 27 2 1
Kerry Collins TEN 4 68.9 87 153 56.9 914 228.5 6.0 5 6 5 28 1 1
Matthew Stafford DET 4 65.5 79 139 56.8 894 223.5 6.4 3 6 10 79 2 1
Brady Quinn CLE 3 62.9 45 74 60.8 400 133.3 5.4 1 3 10 46 2 2
Jake Delhomme CAR

[frenchfan]

Kyle Orton,
Trent Dilfer Redux!!! OH Yeah!!As long as he gives us another ring I've nothing against that ;) :D

IMO Dilfer was the worst QB I've ever seen win the SB, but he did (I know, thanks to the D, but who cares? :D).

:defense:

[Dirk]

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OMG...that's too funny! :lol:

[Dirk]

IMO Dilfer was the worst QB I've ever seen win the SB, but he did (I know, thanks to the D, but who cares? :D).

:defense:

I don't think many will disagree with you on that one. But Orton is a smarter QB than Trent IMO.

[frenchfan]

OMG...that's too funny! :lol:I want to drink some "Mack Daniels" too :drinking: :laugh:

[frenchfan]

I don't think many will disagree with you on that one. But Orton is a smarter QB than Trent IMO.It was just a sarcasm in fact... I do believe too that Orton is a better QB than Dilfer and he will benefit from being tutored by "Mack Daniels" :D

I was just a bit fed up hearing how bad Kyle sucks... I know he is no Jay Cutler or anything close but I think he is not as bad as many people think he is...
He seems to be a good leader, have a great team spirit and he is tough (playing with his finger like that he not so easy).
I think he can suit very well McD's system. He still has to improve and learn things but he seems to be smart enough.
Will he be a HOF? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
But he can certainly be a decent QB for a SB ring (after all, Dilfer had one too :shocked: )

So I tried to be a bit funny in my previous answer :D

And after all, Kyle is the best at :
- Throwing the deflected pass
- Throwing through the hands of the defenders...
Can Cutler, Brady or Manning do that???? :laugh:

And last, I prefer a "game manager" QB and a winning team (thanks to the D or "luck" but who cares again?) than a "great" QB and a losing team (because of the D but who cares finally?). :D

Go Broncos :defense:

[wbmustang]

When is the glove supposed to come off?

[Day1BroncoFan]

It's a suprise. :D

[T.K.O.]

When is the glove supposed to come off?

i thought i saw him playing w/o the glove the 1st series? and he was throwing poorly....then he put it back on and beat americs team !!!!!!i say leave the glove on its been a "good luck charm" so far !:D

[Lancane]

First off we are 4-0, second off we are talking about qb rating even if denver was 3-1 which they are 4-0 kyle orton still has a lot higher qb rating then jay cutler. Seriously read a topic before you post HATER

His rating is only due to luck, the luck of not having an interception yet...if all the balls he has thrown that should have been picked were, he would be in the basement of the rankings - that is why it is highly overrated, Elway, Manning, Kelly, Brees, Rivers, Farve, Bradshaw, Aikman and several of the other top quarterbacks had or have had influx on their quarterback rankings throughout their careers; I would take anyone of them over Orton...period. It is deceptive and means diddly-**** in the end.

[NightTrainLayne]

His rating is only due to luck, the luck of not having an interception yet...if all the balls he has thrown that should have been picked were, he would be in the basement of the rankings - that is why it is highly overrated, Elway, Manning, Kelly, Brees, Rivers, Farve, Bradshaw, Aikman and several of the other top quarterbacks had or have had influx on their quarterback rankings throughout their careers; I would take anyone of them over Orton...period. It is deceptive and means diddly-**** in the end.

Surely you jest! [/SARCASM]

Orton's gotten lucky, but so does every QB. A four-game stretch is a pretty darn good statistical sample. Will he regress back toward the mean as the season progresses? History would show that to be likely, but he has played pretty well for what he's been asked to do. Give credit where credit is due.

[Day1BroncoFan]

His rating is only due to luck, the luck of not having an interception yet...if all the balls he has thrown that should have been picked were, he would be in the basement of the rankings - that is why it is highly overrated, Elway, Manning, Kelly, Brees, Rivers, Farve, Bradshaw, Aikman and several of the other top quarterbacks had or have had influx on their quarterback rankings throughout their careers; I would take anyone of them over Orton...period. It is deceptive and means diddly-**** in the end.

4-0 is what counts and the QB helps us get there and his QB rating is what it is.

[honz]

I bet every QB has had a defender miss a ball that should have been picked...they play defense for a reason! Seriously though, he has gotten fortunate on a couple, but anyone who goes 4 games without an INT is doing something right. Orton is doing what he is asked and winning games for us. He has made plays when we needed them. Marshall beasted it up on the TD, but I think the play before that was when Orton allowed himself to get nailed by Ratliff (and he saw it coming) so that he could drop a dime to Eddie for a 1st down. And then Orton made the right read and delivered the ball to our best playmaker and let The Beast do what he does. He also led a nice drive the drive before that allowed us to tie the game.

[broncofaninfla]

So to date through the first four games Kyle Orton has a better qb rating then Jay Cutler and Tom Brady.In fact has the seventh best qb rating in the NFL! Also he has consistently got better in every game he has played this year. SAY WHAT HATERS

Ratings aside, I'd take either over Orton in a heart beat.

[Lancane]

Surely you jest! [/SARCASM]

Orton's gotten lucky, but so does every QB. A four-game stretch is a pretty darn good statistical sample. Will he regress back toward the mean as the season progresses? History would show that to be likely, but he has played pretty well for what he's been asked to do. Give credit where credit is due.

Nay Layne, I do not jest... I am dead serious, because luck runs out, talent and ability is a far more a greater asset then 'dumb luck'. Hell, even winning is deceptive, because it masks short comings in the eyes of the fans and analysts alike. Orton has been his typical self, he rides the coat-tails of a good defense to victory and again counts on luck to be successful!

Want me to give credit to where it is due? Cincinnati should be 4-0, Denver's offense is overrated, the defense is better then I thought it was, McDaniels is a better head coach then I thought he was but a far worse offensive coordinator then I had believed, Orton is being overrated by the blind faithful, and if not for Stokely and Marshall we would be 2-2...period, bottom line and the end. And there, now I have given credit to where it is due!

:coffee:

[Day1BroncoFan]

I'm not sold on Orton yet. He needs to step it up a notch. He hasn't played well in the first half. As long as the D keeps it close in the first half we're good. I am afraid if we get to far down there is no way Orton can do it. I hope he proves me wrong. I am not saying Orton is a bust or anything like that just that he hasn't shown me he has what it takes yet.

[Tempus Fugit]

So to date through the first four games Kyle Orton has a better qb rating then Jay Cutler and Tom Brady.In fact has the seventh best qb rating in the NFL! Also he has consistently got better in every game he has played this year. SAY WHAT HATERS

I'd bet everything I own that McDaniels would gladly trade Kyle Orton straight up for Tom Brady, and that Belichick refuse the deal if such an offer was made, so I'm not really sure what the point of this post/thread is supposed to be.

[T.K.O.]

:salute:
I'd bet everything I own that McDaniels would gladly trade Kyle Orton straight up for Tom Brady, and that Belichick refuse the deal if such an offer was made, so I'm not really sure what the point of this post/thread is supposed to be.

i think it was'nt intended to say that orton is better than either qb,rather a statement on the surprising fact that orton does have a higher qb rating

[Tempus Fugit]

:salute:

i think it was'nt intended to say that orton is better than either qb,rather a statement on the surprising fact that orton does have a higher qb rating

But why should it be some sort of surprise that Brady's numbers would be off given that he's been working his way back from knee surgery? If the O.P. had been just about Cutler, it would have made sense for me, given the circumstances. The Brady part just doesn't.

[Day1BroncoFan]

But why should it be some sort of surprise that Brady's numbers would be off given that he's been working his way back from knee surgery? If the O.P. had been just about Cutler, it would have made sense for me, given the circumstances. The Brady part just doesn't.

Play along with me here... cutler is the former Broncos QB and brady is the QB of the team we play next thus the comparison. ;)