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DenBronx
09-03-2007, 02:38 PM
I thought for sure BMARSH was going to get #2. I don't feel that Stokely has earned it.


DENVER BRONCOS 2007 DEPTH CHART
As of Monday, September 3, 2007

Broncos Offense
WR 14 B. Stokley 15 B. Marshall 12 D. Hixon
LT 78 M Lepsis [74 R. Harris]
LG 50 B. Hamilton 62 C. Myers
C 66 T. Nalen
RG 77 C. Kuper 70 M. Holland
RT 64 E. Pears [75 A. Meadows]
TE 89 D. Graham 82 S. Alexander 88 Tony Scheffler 81 Nate Jackson
WR 84 J. Walker 86 B. Clark
QB 6 J. Cutler 8 P. Ramsey
RB 20 T. Henry 37 C. Sapp 30 M. Bell 23 A. Hall 35 S. Young
FB 26 P. Smith


Broncos Specialists
P 10 T. Sauerbrun
K 1 J. Elam
KO 10 T. Sauerbrun
PR 12 D. Hixon 28 Jeff Shoate
KR 12 D. Hixon 23 A. Hall 86 B. Clark 30 M. Bell
PC 83 M. Leach 62 C. Myers 77 C. Kuper
KC 83 M. Leach 77 C. Kuper 62 C. Myers
H 10 T. Sauerbrun 6 J. Cutler 8 P. Ramsey


Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 96 T. Crowder
LT 95 S. Adams 93 A. Burton
RT 63 A. Gordon 79 M. Thomas 99 A. McKinley
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 52 I. Gold 51 W. Mallard
MLB 55 D.J. Williams 54 D.D. Lewis
SLB 58 N. Webster 53 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 41 K. Paymah 28 J. Shoate
RCB 32 D. Bly 22 D. Foxworth
SS 25 N. Ferguson 40 C. Cox
FS 47 J. Lynch 21 H. Abdullah


Injured players are bracketed
Rookie and First-Year players underlined

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Jason Elam (EE-lum)
Amon Gordon (ah-MAHN)
Domenik Hixon (DAH-mehn-ik)
Chris Kuper (KOO-pehr)
Erik Pears (PEERS)
Jeff Shoate (SHOTE)

Skinny
09-03-2007, 03:04 PM
Thanks again DenBronx.

DENVER BRONCOS 2007 DEPTH CHART
As of Monday, September 3, 2007

Broncos Offense
WR 14 B. Stokley 15 B. Marshall 12 D. Hixon (I'm suprised meself!)
LT 78 M Lepsis [74 R. Harris]
LG 50 B. Hamilton 62 C. Myers C 66 T. Nalen
RG 77 C. Kuper 70 M. Holland
RT 64 E. Pears [75 A. Meadows]
TE 89 D. Graham 82 S. Alexander 88 Tony Scheffler 81 Nate Jackson
WR 84 J. Walker 86 B. Clark
QB 6 J. Cutler 8 P. Ramsey
RB 20 T. Henry 37 C. Sapp 30 M. Bell 23 A. Hall 35 S. Young
FB 26 P. Smith (Interesting)

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 96 T. Crowder ( Figured. He's really played well this off-season)
LT 95 S. Adams 93 A. Burton
RT 63 A. Gordon 79 M. Thomas 99 A. McKinley (Suprises me a bit.)
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss (HELL YEA!)
WLB 52 I. Gold 51 W. Mallard
MLB 55 D.J. Williams 54 D.D. Lewis (better than nobody i guess)
SLB 58 N. Webster 53 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 41 K. Paymah 28 J. Shoate (I rikey!)
RCB 32 D. Bly 22 D. Foxworth
SS 25 N. Ferguson 40 C. Cox
FS 47 J. Lynch 21 H. Abdullah (I rikey arot!)
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The only other thing that i'm taking note of is the TE situation. If in fact Mikey will be going to more of a 2 TE set or 3 as someone mentioned.

It will be interesting to see then exactly who (TE) will line up where.

DenBronx
09-03-2007, 03:16 PM
im pretty sure graham and alexander will both be in on for sure running plays. that will keep the d on their toes as to which side we will run. sheffler and jackson in on passing plays. we kept the best 5 tight ends if were going with 2 tight end sets.

im glad to see todd handling both punt and kickoff duties. we dont need any more specialist.

Lonestar
09-03-2007, 03:17 PM
I think that Hamilton should be bracketed as he is a concussion problem that last thing I have heard.

Good post BTW

topscribe
09-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Thanks, DB. :smile:

While I am mildly surprised Stokley is ahead of Marshall, it is Marshall who has
not earned it. Stokley is a nine-year veteran with a phenomenally successful
record. They do not have the slightest doubt as to what he can do. Marshall
may well be #2, but he has not had sufficient chance to prove himself. He
may still vault himself into that position before the season is over.

Kuper is a mild surprise. I believe he has a greater upside than Holland, yet
the latter has done a superb job in blocking, according to reports. I guess
Kupe's natural talent is taking over.

Although Harris is listed as Lepsis' backup, they probably would send Pears back
over to LT if anything happened to Lepsis, even if Harris were healthy.

Wow, Scheffler #3? :eek: A lot of people had Alexander gone, yet now he
is listed at #2. A great deal of that probably is Scheff's need to play himself
back into footall shape. Even then, Alexander shows up far from the bubble.

I am also surprised at RB, but not necessarily FB. Young is the surprise. I
expected to see him at #2, and now he's at the bottom of the food chain.
I guess the coaches aren't yet convinced that Young will translate his
preseason success into the regular season? At FB, I suspected something
was up. Bell is an absolute misfit at FB, and Sapp has pared his weight
down to RB size and would not be the FB he was before. The surprise there,
however, is Paul Smith . . . I thought he be gone long before now.


On the defensive side, I simply see a lot of talent there (well, I would like
to see another good DT in there). The staff had better do something good
with that group or get a defensive coach in here who can.

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dogfish
09-03-2007, 03:51 PM
sweet, kuper starting as predicted!


:whoo:



it's also good to see that hixon has taken control of both the return jobs. . .

NameUsedBefore
09-03-2007, 03:53 PM
Glad to see Paymah moving up. I've been watching him for awhile and I think he has all the talent to be a solid starter; he only has to get those fundamentals down. As for the running situation, I think it's amorphous. We'll probably see Bell and Sapp in the RB position as well as at FB (although I still have a hard time imagining Bell at FB). Stokely is a surprise, but it wouldn't be a stretch to say Marshall will eventually take that spot.

Our D-Line looks like total crap. :|

BroncoWave
09-03-2007, 04:36 PM
If Rice comes in, will he take over for Dumervil or Engleberger?

topscribe
09-03-2007, 04:39 PM
If Rice comes in, will he take over for Dumervil or Engleberger?
I may be wrong, but I don't see him stepping in for Engelberger.

Rice is so-so against the run . . .

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TXBRONC
09-03-2007, 04:47 PM
Is there any chance that there is mistake that Stokley is ahead of Brandon, because like someone else said, he hasn't earned it in my opinion.

RunYouOver
09-03-2007, 04:52 PM
Scheffler's the THIRD TE? :confused:

BroncoWave
09-03-2007, 05:20 PM
I don't think this is the current depth chart. It's the EXACT same depth chart that has been up for weeks, minus the cuts. I wouldn't put any stock into it until we see what is really is on Sunday.

Dean
09-03-2007, 05:47 PM
I don't know why there is such wailing and gnashing of teeth over this year's #2 receiver and tight end.

Stockley is a known quantity. Marshall might be good, he might be injured, or he might not be able to be counted on when it really counts. If he shows the coaching staff that he has what it takes, you can bet that they will move him up the depth chart. Right now, he must not have calmed whatever fears that the staff have about his play. They have the video and it doesn't lie.

IMO the Broncos will be running the ball more than usual (which is alot) to take the pressure off of Jay. That calls for blocking from your tight end. Sheff ain't there, yet.

It is still my opinion that the rushing offense will have to carry the whole team for at least the first few games.

Lonestar
09-03-2007, 05:52 PM
I don't know why there is such wailing and gnashing of teeth over this year's #2 receiver and tight end.

Stokely is a known quantity. Marshall might be good, he might be injured, or he might not be able to be counted on when it really counts. If he shows the coaching staff that he has what it takes, you can bet that they will move him up the depth chart. Right now, he must not have calmed whatever fears that the staff have about his play. They have the video and it doesn't lie.

IMO the Broncos will be running the ball more than usual (which is alot) to take the pressure off of Jay. That calls for blocking from your tight end. Sheff ain't there, yet.

It is still my opinion that the rushing offense will have to carry the whole team for at least the first few games.

Hey coach welcome to the forum. Nice to have an analytical looks at the problem.

BroncoWave
09-03-2007, 05:55 PM
I don't know why there is such wailing and gnashing of teeth over this year's #2 receiver and tight end.

Stockley is a known quantity. Marshall might be good, he might be injured, or he might not be able to be counted on when it really counts. If he shows the coaching staff that he has what it takes, you can bet that they will move him up the depth chart. Right now, he must not have calmed whatever fears that the staff have about his play. They have the video and it doesn't lie.

IMO the Broncos will be running the ball more than usual (which is alot) to take the pressure off of Jay. That calls for blocking from your tight end. Sheff ain't there, yet.

It is still my opinion that the rushing offense will have to carry the whole team for at least the first few games.

Like I said, I highly doubt that this is the actual depth chart, seeing as it hasn't changed AT ALL over the past few weeks, other than removing cut players. I will just about guarantee that Marshall and Scheffler are the #2 WR and TE on opening day.

topscribe
09-03-2007, 05:58 PM
I don't know why there is such wailing and gnashing of teeth over this year's #2 receiver and tight end.

Stockley is a known quantity. Marshall might be good, he might be injured, or he might not be able to be counted on when it really counts. If he shows the coaching staff that he has what it takes, you can bet that they will move him up the depth chart. Right now, he must not have calmed whatever fears that the staff have about his play. They have the video and it doesn't lie.

IMO the Broncos will be running the ball more than usual (which is alot) to take the pressure off of Jay. That calls for blocking from your tight end. Sheff ain't there, yet.

It is still my opinion that the rushing offense will have to carry the whole team for at least the first few games.
It would seem to me that Marshall is simply a second year player in whom
they have not developed the trust they have in Stokley. I look for Marshall
to earn that trust, but that's the key: He still has to earn it.

And you're right about TE, IMO. That might be a reason for Alexander's
#2 status: He's a good blocker, as well as a competent receiver, even
though he's not in Scheffler's league in recieving (but neither is Graham).
They got Henry for a reason . . . the same reason they are going with the
blockers at TE.

IMHO.

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Retired_Member_001
09-03-2007, 06:05 PM
I believe this is how we will go into this season, maybe + Simeon Rice.

I don't understand why so many people are suprised that Stokley won the #2 receiver position over Marshall. I agree very much with Topscribe, Stokley has proven himself as a receiver, Marshall did show promise last season but he is not really "proven" yet. I think Shanahan would prefer to go with the receiver who has proven himself. It is clear that Marshall also pissed Shanahan off with his moaning, Shanahan doesn't take these things very well and why should he? I think Shanahan would also prefer to go with the guy who has been working all training camp to the guy who has been moaning all training camp.

The offensive line looks exactly how I expected it to look.

I am abit suprised at Paul Smith at fullback. I thought they were going to get Cecil Sapp back up to fullback size and play him there. I hope Paul Smith does a good job but I really wasn't expecting this. YAY! For Mike Bell not at fullback, he can't block at all, now I feel alot more comfortable.

Stephen Alexander over Tony Scheffler was a shock aswell. I thought Stephen Alexander was going to be gone the second Daniel Graham was in. I think this is a mistake, Scheffler is a good receiver. Daniel Graham is a great blocker at TE, Scheffler is a good receiver at TE, it looked a good combination to me.

There's no major suprises on Defense. I am not too sure about Engleberger but overall the defense looks like what we all expected. Another defensive lineman is needed, I think we need two (1 DT,1 DE) but we wont be able to get two good ones.

Skinny
09-03-2007, 07:06 PM
Apperantly Stokley has improved ALOT on his blocking too. Especially as important as that is for WRs in this offense.

That's my only concern with him being the #2....

DenBronx
09-03-2007, 07:09 PM
I wonder how this depth chart will look with the addition of Rice?

Really Dumerviel needs to start along the other side. I'm not sold on Englandburger at all. Run stop, run stop, run stop...blah blah blahhhhhh. The coaches seem to be pretty high on Elvis as a run stopper and I would rather see a DE in there that can handle both duties as a starter.

Hamburgerler is under average as a pass rusher and is average against the run. Rice is elite at rushing the qb and average at stopping the run. So Rice wins by default. He might not be starting this week but by week 3 look for Rice to be our starter.

It's gonna rock to have a couple of DE bookends now. Ekubans loss was a blessing.

Dean
09-03-2007, 07:36 PM
I wonder how this depth chart will look with the addition of Rice?

Really Dumerviel needs to start along the other side. I'm not sold on Englandburger at all. Run stop, run stop, run stop...blah blah blahhhhhh. The coaches seem to be pretty high on Elvis as a run stopper and I would rather see a DE in there that can handle both duties as a starter.

Hamburgerler is under average as a pass rusher and is average against the run. Rice is elite at rushing the qb and average at stopping the run. So Rice wins by default. He might not be starting this week but by week 3 look for Rice to be our starter.

It's gonna rock to have a couple of DE bookends now. Ekubans loss was a blessing.

How do you see Eb's injury as a blessing???

Had Ekuban not gotten hurt IMO we would be looking at he and Simeon as the starting D-ends.

DenBronx
09-03-2007, 07:43 PM
How do you see Eb's injury as a blessing???

Had Ekuban not gotten hurt IMO we would be looking at he and Simeon as the starting D-ends.

to me i dont think we would have went after rice as strongly as we did. dumerviel i think will be a force this year. having these 2 guys on each side is a BLESSING.

i liked ekuban but i like rice better.

I could see 10 + sacks from each guy this year.

HORSEPOWER 56
09-03-2007, 08:42 PM
I wouldn't get all excited about the depth chart just yet. The NFL mandated one so the Broncos gave them one. We all know that the depth chart in Denver is written on wet toilet paper. Shanny makes decisions on who starts and plays when based on the prior week's practice, not some chart.

I have a feeling that Marshall and Scheffler are still listed at #3 because of the time they missed in camp and will be back at #2 again either week one or within the first few weeks of the season. There's just too much receiving talent in the two of them to be sitting behind Stokely and Alexander.

No worries! ;)

BigBroncLove
09-03-2007, 11:40 PM
I wouldn't get all excited about the depth chart just yet. The NFL mandated one so the Broncos gave them one. We all know that the depth chart in Denver is written on wet toilet paper. Shanny makes decisions on who starts and plays when based on the prior week's practice, not some chart.

I have a feeling that Marshall and Scheffler are still listed at #3 because of the time they missed in camp and will be back at #2 again either week one or within the first few weeks of the season. There's just too much receiving talent in the two of them to be sitting behind Stokely and Alexander.

No worries! ;)

I agree. I don't think this Depth chart holds to mcuh water for how the season will actually play out, and doubt that it is 100% accurate to what we will see even in week1. Ahhh Shanny, yuou mastermind you. Teams will be looking at that depth chart and game planning around it. That is until the Broncos come out with something a little bit different :D OR at least, that is what I hope is the deal....

DenBronx
09-04-2007, 10:33 PM
This looks more like it.

DENVER BRONCOS 2007 DEPTH CHART
As of Tuesday, September 4, 2007

Broncos Offense
WR 15 B. Marshall 14 B. Stokley 86 B. Clark
LT 78 M Lepsis [74 R. Harris]
LG 62 C. Myers [50 B. Hamilton]
C 66 T. Nalen 62 C. Myers
RG 70 M. Holland 73 C. Kuper
RT 64 E. Pears 75 A. Meadows
TE 89 D. Graham 82 S. Alexander 81 N. Jackson 88 T. Scheffler
WR 84 J. Walker 12 D. Hixon 86 B. Clark
QB 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey
RB 20 T. Henry 35 S. Young 23 A. Hall
FB 37 C. Sapp 30 M. Bell 26 P. Smith

Broncos Specialists
P 10 T. Sauerbrun
K 1 J. Elam
KO 10 T. Sauerbrun
PR 12 D. Hixon 28 Jeff Shoate
KR 12 D. Hixon 23 A. Hall 86 B. Clark 30 M. Bell
PC 83 M. Leach 62 C. Myers 73 C. Kuper
KC 83 M. Leach 73 C. Kuper 62 C. Myers
H 10 T. Sauerbrun 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 94 J. Moss 96 T. Crowder
LT 95 S. Adams 99 A. McKinley 93 A. Burton
RT 63 A. Gordon 79 M. Thomas 93 A. Burton
RE S. Rice 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 52 I. Gold 53 L. Green
MLB 55 D.J. Williams 54 D.D. Lewis
SLB 58 N. Webster 53 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 41 K. Paymah 28 J. Shoate
RCB 32 D. Bly 22 D. Foxworth
SS 25 N. Ferguson 40 C. Cox
FS 47 J. Lynch 21 H. Abdullah



http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

DenBronx
09-04-2007, 10:34 PM
:eek: i just noticed that sheffler is listed last for TE's!

i like that rice is already listed as a starter but i dont like englandburger starting over elvis

Dean
09-04-2007, 10:35 PM
I saw a depth chart dated sept.4, 2007 on Broncomania (whatever it's called now). Marshall had been moved up to #2 receiver and Stokley #3. Scheffler was the #4 tight end. Young was listed as the back-up running back. :wave:

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