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Kapaibro
12-05-2007, 05:10 AM
Doe. A deer. A female gun-toting deer? Hunting is dangerous. There are guns involved. And shooting. And look out for those bullet-dodging deer.
No fewer than four hunters were shot while trying to kill the animal in Iowa at the weekend.
Has it really come to this? Are the deer finally packing some heat themselves in a final stand-off between stag and man?
Thankfully no, or Santa would have some serious armed protection on his sleigh this year.
Instead, the dumb hunters are wiping each other out, making that easy mistake of thinking a two-legged human is the spit of a four-legged animal.
The opening weekend of shotgun deer hunting season in the US state went off with a bang. **** Cheney, get a load of this...
Derek Kleitsch, 19, was hunting in Fayette County on Sunday morning when he was shot in the leg by another hunter who fired at a nearby deer.
Shane Pashek, 38, was hit in the shoulder by a fellow deer hunter on Sunday afternoon in Delaware County.
Luke Sietstra, 29, was shot in the arm and shoulder on Saturday afternoon in Osceola County, by another hunter who mistook him for a deer.
And finally, Don Brandon Sr, 59, was shot in the foot. By himself. He slipped while getting into a truck in Davis County. Oh deer - I mean - dear.
Rod Slings, safety officer at the Department of National Resources, said: 'Shooting at running deer while hunting in a group is the number one cause of people getting hurt by firearms while deer hunting.' Who would have thought it?
He added: 'It is vitally important that you know where everyone is and only take shots that will ensure the safety of everyone involved.'
Yes, only fire a gun when you are sure no-one will get hurt.
And remember, only have a shower when you are certain you won't get wet.
Why the hell would you want to hunt deer with a friggin shotgun?
sneakers
12-05-2007, 05:21 AM
There are always a half dozen or so hunting deaths in Wisconsin every year. This year one that sticks out to me is the Grandfather who shot and killed his Grandson because he mistook him for a deer.
There are always a half dozen or so hunting deaths in Wisconsin every year. This year one that sticks out to me is the Grandfather who shot and killed his Grandson because he mistook him for a deer.
If his grandson greatly resembled a deer then maybe it was for the best. Seriously, they aren't exactly a lot of people who live long or shorts successful lives that look like a furry woodland creature.:laugh::laugh:
In all seriousness that is actually quite depressing.
Doe. A deer. A female gun-toting deer? Hunting is dangerous. There are guns involved. And shooting. And look out for those bullet-dodging deer.
No fewer than four hunters were shot while trying to kill the animal in Iowa at the weekend.
Has it really come to this? Are the deer finally packing some heat themselves in a final stand-off between stag and man?
Thankfully no, or Santa would have some serious armed protection on his sleigh this year.
Instead, the dumb hunters are wiping each other out, making that easy mistake of thinking a two-legged human is the spit of a four-legged animal.
The opening weekend of shotgun deer hunting season in the US state went off with a bang. **** Cheney, get a load of this...
Derek Kleitsch, 19, was hunting in Fayette County on Sunday morning when he was shot in the leg by another hunter who fired at a nearby deer.
Shane Pashek, 38, was hit in the shoulder by a fellow deer hunter on Sunday afternoon in Delaware County.
Luke Sietstra, 29, was shot in the arm and shoulder on Saturday afternoon in Osceola County, by another hunter who mistook him for a deer.
And finally, Don Brandon Sr, 59, was shot in the foot. By himself. He slipped while getting into a truck in Davis County. Oh deer - I mean - dear.
Rod Slings, safety officer at the Department of National Resources, said: 'Shooting at running deer while hunting in a group is the number one cause of people getting hurt by firearms while deer hunting.' Who would have thought it?
He added: 'It is vitally important that you know where everyone is and only take shots that will ensure the safety of everyone involved.'
Yes, only fire a gun when you are sure no-one will get hurt.
And remember, only have a shower when you are certain you won't get wet.
That line makes me just laugh and laugh. They probably were drinking prior to hunting as well.
Quite a few years back, It was the end of October and the Missouri river was still open for boating. A friend of mine who owns a boat asked me if I wanted to head up to Desoto (Iowa State Park), because you see lots of wild life out and about in the fall on the river banks. Not ONLY did we see deer, but we were in the crossfires of hunters being on the river. They were shooting at deer from the opposite banks of the river, with US in the middle. Illegal!!!!
I honestly believe there should be an IQ test given prior to getting a hunting license.
Someone answer my question! Please! Who hunts anything other than birds with a damn shotgun?! Unless you're using a slug from 5 feet away straight at the deer's head, how is a shotgun going to kill a deer?!
Kapaibro
12-05-2007, 09:08 AM
Someone answer my question! Please! Who hunts anything other than birds with a damn shotgun?! Unless you're using a slug from 5 feet away straight at the deer's head, how is a shotgun going to kill a deer?!
I don't know.
Nomad
12-05-2007, 09:22 AM
Someone answer my question! Please! Who hunts anything other than birds with a damn shotgun?! Unless you're using a slug from 5 feet away straight at the deer's head, how is a shotgun going to kill a deer?!
They use shotguns with buck-shot mostly when running dogs, because it's easier to shoot the deer on the run with more shot than a single slug plus it's harder with a rifle. Now I don't know if they were running dogs because states differ on their laws and seasons for this. More states are outlawing this practice because of the accidents and fatalities. I buy a deer tag most years but I've never killed one because I don't go out because of the nutcases out there. Like here in NODAK, they drive all these gravel roads and if they see a deer they stop and shoot. And if someone is in the crossfire, oh well.
I'd rather sit in a deer stand with a good 30-ought-six and patiently wait for that deer.
Nomad
12-05-2007, 10:36 AM
I'd rather sit in a deer stand with a good 30-ought-six and patiently wait for that deer.
Same here! When we were stationed at Barksdale AFB, you could hunt on base and that's what I did was hunt from a stand. Never saw a deer though. But only so many could hunt and it wasn't a public place where any nutcase could hunt. I have a 30-30 which is enough power to knock down a deer.
But venison is one of the healthier meats out there, just in case people on here are thinking poor deer.
I'll never forget the first time I went deer hunting. I shot the deer from a distance and it fell, so I thought it was dead. I ran up to the deer to take a gander...I shot it in the shoulder, but the bullet must not have gone in very far because the deer was still breathing well, just not moving. I was going to put it out of its misery, so I stood back a bit and went to look through the scope (I was about 8), and fired. I shot the deer in the knee...it's front leg was all out of whack and it's leg was held together by it's skin. I finally put it out of its misery. It's a funny story to tell now though.
topscribe
12-05-2007, 12:01 PM
Someone answer my question! Please! Who hunts anything other than birds with a damn shotgun?! Unless you're using a slug from 5 feet away straight at the deer's head, how is a shotgun going to kill a deer?!
First, one would have to be Davey Crockett to get close enough to a deer
to kill it with a shotgun. Second, even were that feat accomplished, I would
think there would be a lot of wasted meat on the deer.
I guess the answer to your question would be someone whose IQ would equal
the size of the foot this other guy shot? :coffee:
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I asked my buddy Reese (who I hunt and fish with in TX) why and he said that some people do really hunt deer with a shotgun on small leases, but they use slugs. I dunno...I wouldn't do it. I'm not a big shotgun fan.
Nomad
12-05-2007, 12:11 PM
First, one would have to be Davey Crockett to get close enough to a deer
to kill it with a shotgun. Second, even were that feat accomplished, I would
think there would be a lot of wasted meat on the deer.
I guess the answer to your question would be someone whose IQ would equal
the size of the foot this other guy shot? :coffee:
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Alot of times the meat is wasted because like I said before the main practice which they call "deer drive" where you have about 20 guys at different points and dogs chase the deer and if the deer comes closes enough they shoot. Using OO or OOO buckshot can put a good hole in a deer if close enough and if too far you only hurt the deer which more than likely it's wasted because it runs off and dies and a good number of times they don't find the deer even with the dogs. I'm not a fan of this practice but I guess the people who do it find entertainment.
I had a buddy whose family did this when I was in HS school and it was a yearly deal and he would tell me all about it.
rcsodak
12-05-2007, 03:10 PM
There are states that allow ONLY Shotguns, for Big Game. I'm not sure if Iowa is one of them or not...but they do have a season for it. And they use slugs. In trees, they're good for those 50yd shots.
I have so many hunting stories, from growing up on a ranch that is part of a group of landowners that incorporated and bring in hunters from across the country.....and some of them aren't funny.
The brother-in-law of an uncle, was turkey hunting in the Black Hills....and got shot 3X by some guys that were road hunting. He survived. But because of that, and the fact yahoos travel from back east to hunt there, I'll never step foot in there.
I've been muzzle blasted....and I'm sure it's part of the reason for my lack of hearing in one ear.
My family has a ranch in the far northern reaches of sodak, and we'd go up there every year for antelope. One year, a PROFESSOR at a state college, misstook a BLACK llama...BLACK llama, for an antelope.
Sadly, it was also a pet of a teenager. I guess they don't teach lib prof's the difference between antelope and BLACK llamas.....*not to mention, it wasn't even on the property he was hunting*.
But I digress....
I'll just say that MOST hunters, are safe. But when you start bringing in lawyers/doctors/bankers/professors from the big cities, you best make sure you're always standing BEHIND them, when hunting.
And YES, B....Venison is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! Cut up the loin into 2" strips, lay them on their sides in a circle, wrap them with bacon, throw them on the grill, and you're eating a filet mignon to die for.
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