Week 3: 49ers week

[LawDog]

With Trey Lance out for the season, we get Jimmy G. Will the Broncos beat him down or make him an all pro?

[HORSEPOWER 56]

With Trey Lance out for the season, we get Jimmy G. Will the Broncos beat him down or make him an all pro?

The real question is, will the Broncos offense score a point? The 49ers defense is legit.

[Bronco4ever]

I scored some half priced tickets for this game. I’ll be ready to countdown the play clock.

[Chillez]

Denver needs to play way better than previous two games if they want to have a chance against 49ers they’re defense is legit and scary good.

[aberdien]

Jimmy G will steal Ciara from Russ by the 3rd quarter.

[Hawgdriver]

Jimmy G will steal Ciara from Russ by the 3rd quarter.

Dammit abe keep your cuck fantasies to yourself, this is a family message board.

[BroncoWave]

I'm honestly more worried about Jimmy G than Lance. We'll lose this game badly if there aren't stark improvements from the first two weeks.

[Eddiemac87]

How we do depends on who returns from injuries…

And I wish lance was still playing…Jimmy G can actually run an offence…

[Elevation inc]

With Trey Lance out for the season, we get Jimmy G. Will the Broncos beat him down or make him an all pro?

I think we win another close game....However it will have to be a heavy dose of Sutton, Hamler, Hinton, Saubert, and the backs in the passing game. SF is beastly against the run. W for Denver 21-17

[Elevation inc]

The real question is, will the Broncos offense score a point? The 49ers defense is legit.

If they utilize the backs properly and screen game yes, that will open things up for Hamler, Hinton and Sutton. Saubert was the best TE all off-season they should feed him as well. Albert O should stay on the bench where he belongs.

[tripp]

We're gonna need Surtain back asap, don't trust any other DB on Deebo

[dogfish]

pray for me, fellas. . . dave is going to tailgate with us. . . :drinking:

[HORSEPOWER 56]

In pontentially good news, both PS2 and Jeudy are day to day for the 49ers. There’s no guarantee, but neither has been ruled out for this week. We’re gonna need all our weapons if we want to have a chance this week.

Oh, and we’re gonna have to fix our penalty and play clock problems, too.

[BroncoWave]

In pontentially good news, both PS2 and Jeudy are day to day for the 49ers. There’s no guarantee, but neither has been ruled out for this week. We’re gonna need all our weapons if we want to have a chance this week.

Oh, and we’re gonna have to fix our penalty and play clock problems, too.

PS2 is a ***** for not toughing it out last week since his injury wasn't that bad, right E-Inc?

[dogfish]

In pontentially good news, both PS2 and Jeudy are day to day for the 49ers. There’s no guarantee, but neither has been ruled out for this week. We’re gonna need all our weapons if we want to have a chance this week.

Oh, and we’re gonna have to fix our penalty and play clock problems, too.

it would REALLY help if billy turner could suit up, as well. . . the niners have a beastly defensive front, it would be a huge help to have as many of our horses on the O-line as possible, and meinerz is already out. . . i'd also love it if hackett would lean on javonte a little more-- i get that they want to keep him fresh for the stretch run, but it may not matter if we can't string some wins together now. . . he has young legs, he's better than gordon, and right now he's our only reliable weapon outside of sutton. . . san fran is very physical, vonte is probably our best answer to that. . . they are also very well coached-- if we aren't more crisp and prepared, we might get our shit pushed in on a nationally televised broadcast. . . they should have surtain camped in a hyperbaric chamber the rest of the week. . .

[Eddiemac87]

The only small bright spot here is that RW is familiar with that team… and should be able to see things in their D he is used to dealing with

[Helios]

Jimmy G throwing 20 times over the middle to slots, hots, and TEs against a backup safety and Singleton is not going to be pretty.

[Krugan]

I am torn here.

This team almost seemed to take a step back coming home, jitters as a home opener, not so sure. Somehow, they came in with less discipline, amazing, as 12 penalties was pretty bad.

I see loss 2 this week.

Going to go 24-17 san fran. We actually get a rushing td and a redzone td explosion this week(2 of them, sigh). We have no redzone TDS this year, despite being there 5 times(im not sure on that) 0.00, tied for least good with Seattle. Great marks guys..... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

Week 3, still trying to find their footing, or is this what they are? Im guessing this is not the finished product, but the ceiling isnt much higher.

[spikerman]

pray for me, fellas. . . dave is going to tailgate with us. . . :drinking:

Am I invited?

[dogfish]

Am I invited?

of course. . . :beer:

i'll message you with info. . .

[Hawgdriver]

Can I come?

[Elevation inc]

PS2 is a ***** for not toughing it out last week since his injury wasn't that bad, right E-Inc?

Kind of but not in the same mold cause he hasn't shown to be soft or injury prone yet :elefant:

[Elevation inc]

In pontentially good news, both PS2 and Jeudy are day to day for the 49ers. There’s no guarantee, but neither has been ruled out for this week. We’re gonna need all our weapons if we want to have a chance this week.

Oh, and we’re gonna have to fix our penalty and play clock problems, too.

Also we need PS2 in a big way.....Jimmy G loves targeting Deebo and Aiyuk. Not sure were ready for Mathis to take 1 of those......

[Elevation inc]

Jimmy G throwing 20 times over the middle to slots, hots, and TEs against a backup safety and Singleton is not going to be pretty.

I'm really hoping Kittle is still out lol....

[Eddiemac87]

I'm really hoping Kittle is still out lol....

Oh no, that’s our luck we will get jimmy G, with a healthy Kittle, and our injured players will all have setbacks….:coffee:

[Buff]

I'm really hoping Kittle is still out lol....

Me too but I'm not holding my breath...


“Yeah, he was close, that’s why we took it that far,” Shanahan said of Kittle playing in Week 2. “But, obviously he wasn’t able to go and I’m glad we didn’t because I think he could have got through the game, but there was going to be a higher risk of him re-injuring that. To be able to pull that game off and still get a win, I’m very glad with the decision we made and that should give him a much better chance to be good to go this week.”

https://4state.news/kyle-shanahan-49ers-te-george-kittle-has-better-chance-to-play-week-3-vs-broncos/

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis @mikeklis·16h

Lost in the hubbub are the Broncos' mounting injuries to 9 regulars/starters:
Surtain
Jeudy
Simmons
Jewell
Meinerz
Hamler
Dulcich
Turner
Patrick

Substantial for team 2 games in.
#9sports

[dogfish]

Can I come?

si, senor. . . :beer:

[Slick]

pray for me, fellas. . . dave is going to tailgate with us. . . :drinking:

I hate it for Dave to come all that way just to watch Denver get their shit pushed in. Hope I’m wrong.

[R8R H8R]

The only small bright spot here is that RW is familiar with that team… and should be able to see things in their D he is used to dealing with

Since you brought it up…
https://twitter.com/aricdilalla/status/1572356346690797570?s=21&t=JOTa6mD9q9OwOtPXY_NzSg

[dogfish]

I hate it for Dave to come all that way just to watch Denver get their shit pushed in. Hope I’m wrong.

he's tough, he'll be okay. . . so will the donkeys

[Davii]

I hate it for Dave to come all that way just to watch Denver get their shit pushed in. Hope I’m wrong.

Are you kidding? Dave would LOVE to watch someone get their shit pushed in! That's Dave's #1 pickup line in a bar, "Can I push in your stool?"

[Eddiemac87]

From NFL.com

The home Broncos shouldn't be the underdog in this, at least not on paper. They certainly wouldn't be if we'd viewed this game before the season kicked off. But Nathaniel Hackett's rough start to his head-coaching career has made the Broncos a tough sell, with the masses poised to pop on Denver games to see when Hackett's next blunder will arrive.

Denver has struggled mightily in goal-to-go situations, failing to produce a single touchdown in its first five trips inside the opponent's 10-yard line. That ties the 2007 Falcons and 2001 Lions for the longest such streak to start a season in the past 30 years. Side note: That Atlanta team went 4-12, while the Detroit crew finished at 2-14. That said, those teams didn't have Russell Wilson at quarterback. The star is no Joey Harrington ('07 Falcons) or Charlie Batch/Ty Detmer ('01 Lions). And for this reason more than any other, I believe the Broncos will iron out their issues, starting on Sunday.

Jimmy Garoppolo is back in the lineup. His completion percentage, yards per attempt and passer rating since 2021 are all superior to Trey Lance's marks, though the veteran obviously lacks the running ability of his younger cohort. I expect the 49ers to feel mighty comfortable with Garoppolo, but they'll also be staring at a shorter ceiling.

Am I confident in Hackett? Not in the slightest. But I believe in Wilson and Co. It's time for Broncos Country to truly ride.

[Buff]

From NFL.com

The home Broncos shouldn't be the underdog in this, at least not on paper. They certainly wouldn't be if we'd viewed this game before the season kicked off. But Nathaniel Hackett's rough start to his head-coaching career has made the Broncos a tough sell, with the masses poised to pop on Denver games to see when Hackett's next blunder will arrive.

Denver has struggled mightily in goal-to-go situations, failing to produce a single touchdown in its first five trips inside the opponent's 10-yard line. That ties the 2007 Falcons and 2001 Lions for the longest such streak to start a season in the past 30 years. Side note: That Atlanta team went 4-12, while the Detroit crew finished at 2-14. That said, those teams didn't have Russell Wilson at quarterback. The star is no Joey Harrington ('07 Falcons) or Charlie Batch/Ty Detmer ('01 Lions). And for this reason more than any other, I believe the Broncos will iron out their issues, starting on Sunday.

Jimmy Garoppolo is back in the lineup. His completion percentage, yards per attempt and passer rating since 2021 are all superior to Trey Lance's marks, though the veteran obviously lacks the running ability of his younger cohort. I expect the 49ers to feel mighty comfortable with Garoppolo, but they'll also be staring at a shorter ceiling.

Am I confident in Hackett? Not in the slightest. But I believe in Wilson and Co. It's time for Broncos Country to truly ride.

I think this is a classic case of groupthink and a single narrative that has taken hold and blinded people from reality nationally.

The vegas line is probably more reflective of the fact that their week 3 QB has appeared in 2 out of the last 3 NFC Championship games than it is about Hackett.

[BroncoWave]

I think this is a classic case of groupthink and a single narrative that has taken hold and blinded people from reality nationally.

The vegas line is probably more reflective of the fact that their week 3 QB has appeared in 2 out of the last 3 NFC Championship games than it is about Hackett.

I don't think Denver should ever be an underdog in an early season home game against a relatively evenly matched (in theory) team. Betting on Denver to cover in September at home is usually a pretty good bet. I get Jimmy G giving Vegas more confidence in the 9ers, but on the other hand they literally couldn't give the guy away this offseason. I like the Broncos in this spot.

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/ZacStevensDNVR/status/1572681105605541892

[Eddiemac87]

https://twitter.com/ZacStevensDNVR/status/1572681105605541892

Booooooooooooooo

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/MichaelCBS4/status/1572705709489532928

[BroncoWave]

This would be a great week for Hamler to show any of that potential we've been waiting on for a couple of years now.

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1573009574902341633

https://twitter.com/ZacStevensDNVR/status/1573009556015558656

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Jimmy G throwing 20 times over the middle to slots, hots, and TEs against a backup safety and Singleton is not going to be pretty.

That would work if we didn’t have two good back ho safeties

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If they utilize the backs properly and screen game yes, that will open things up for Hamler, Hinton and Sutton. Saubert was the best TE all off-season they should feed him as well. Albert O should stay on the bench where he belongs.

What? A.O was making plays week 1 and made a couple last week. Dude is primed for a breakout game himself.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Also looking forward to hamlers return baby!!!!!! I got a feeling this is the game that he takes off in and gains 100 percent of his confidence back and puts up some great stat’s. I’m seeing something along the lines of 8 catches 169 yards and 2 touchdowns.

[Krugan]

What? A.O was making plays week 1 and made a couple last week. Dude is primed for a breakout game himself.

San Fran is a top 5 defense.

Break out games rarely come in games like this, especially for a struggling TE.

[BroncoWave]

Anyway, leaving JH's fantasy realm and returning to reality, good news on the injury front today. Meinerz, PS2, and Jones all back at practice today. Would be great to have them all back this week.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

San Fran is a top 5 defense.

Break out games rarely come in games like this, especially for a struggling TE.

Top 5 defense????? Damnnnnnnnnn that’s super solid. Did not know they was ranked number 2 after only 2 game’s…… trust me I’m into rankings and stuff, just not after 2 game’s.

[BroncoWave]

Top 5 defense????? Damnnnnnnnnn that’s super solid. Did not know they was ranked number 2 after only 2 game’s…… trust me I’m into rankings and stuff, just not after 2 game’s.

The last 3 years they have been ranked #3, #5, and #2 in total defense, and they still pretty much have the same core of players this year. This isn't just based on two games this season.

[Davii]

I’m seeing something along the lines of 8 catches 169 yards and 2 touchdowns.

This week? :lol: :pound: :lol:

You're VERY bad at this. I would make a wager with you but we all know how that turns out and your level of integrity...

[BroncoWave]

This week? :lol: :pound: :lol:

You're VERY bad at this. I would make a wager with you but we all know how that turns out and your level of integrity...

I'd be pleasantly surprised if that were his total production over the next month.

[Canmore]

I'd be pleasantly surprised if that were his total production over the next month.

Lol.

[dogfish]

let's start with getting him on the field, and take it from there. . . right now he's not even on pace to produce that much for the whole year. . .

[Eddiemac87]

Todays injury report

WR Jerry Jeudy (rib/shoulder) DNP
WR KJ Hamler (knee/hip) limited
OT Billy Turner (knee) limited
G/C Quinn Meinerz (hamstring) limited
DT D.J. Jones (ankle) limited
LB Randy Gregory (knee) full
LB Josey Jewell (calf) limited
CB Pat Surtain II (shoulder) limited
S Caden Sterns (hip) full

[underrated29]

Shit, means jeudy is likely out or gametime. We need him against this team. I need him in ff. Too bad. So sad.

[BroncoWave]

Shit, means jeudy is likely out or gametime. We need him against this team. I need him in ff. Too bad. So sad.

Well that was dumb of you drafting him in FF. That's the one bronco I was avoiding.

[underrated29]

Well that was dumb of you drafting him in FF. That's the one bronco I was avoiding.

Why dumb and why avoid?

[R8R H8R]

Bolles looking good in this offense.
. https://twitter.com/frankiesfilm/status/1572802999377956864?s=21&t=U1H5LYHxgP_mIwint0IbhQ
Sutton & Russ developing chemistry.
https://twitter.com/frankiesfilm/status/1572640993324703747?s=21&t=U1H5LYHxgP_mIwint0IbhQ

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/ZacStevensDNVR/status/1573167418972798976

[Hawgdriver]

Who is Stukes?

[Buff]

Who is Stukes?



Dwayne Stukes enters his first season as special teams coordinator for the Denver Broncos in 2022. He was hired by the club on Feb. 17.

Stukes, who has 14 years of coaching experience with six NFL teams, joins the Broncos after one season as assistant special teams coach with the Los Angeles Rams. He has also spent time with Jacksonville (2019-20), N.Y. Giants (2016-17), Chicago (2013-14), Dallas (2012) and Tampa Bay (2006-11).

https://www.denverbroncos.com/team/coaches-roster/dwayne-stukes

[Davii]

https://twitter.com/ZacStevensDNVR/status/1573167418972798976

Sickening in a good way?

I expect Hackett to make great strides over the next couple weeks. He's not a "I did nothing wrong" guy, he's the opposite and has been willing to admit his faults and ask for help from George and others, let's see how he does

[Elevation inc]

Bolles looking good in this offense.
. https://twitter.com/frankiesfilm/status/1572802999377956864?s=21&t=U1H5LYHxgP_mIwint0IbhQ
Sutton & Russ developing chemistry.
https://twitter.com/frankiesfilm/status/1572640993324703747?s=21&t=U1H5LYHxgP_mIwint0IbhQ

Agreed I was skeptical but so far so good for him and in further review Cam Fleming is playing well opposite him. So luckily bringing Fleming back was the answer at RT for the time being to keep Anderson on the bench where he belongs. Turner can stay on the bench as well IMO. So RT and LT may not be issues I thought they would be. Still a lot of football left. The tackle situation is encouraging and I'm sure Russ is happy as well :lol:. We def need Meinerz back at guard. Glasgow and Risner are meh right now. Cush has gone from below avg to serviceable so perhaps the scheme change will end up a net positive for the OL as a whole.....

[Elevation inc]

What? A.O was making plays week 1 and made a couple last week. Dude is primed for a breakout game himself.

What are you smoking he cost himself a TD week 1 because of a shitty route, he dropped passes in both games as well. Dude is a bum. Saubert is the best complete TE on the roster. He was all off-season as well.

[BroncoJoe]

https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1573042049032544256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1573042049032544256%7Ctwgr% 5E6a27daea9971fdd2d0c69f3bb695e287b250ebcf%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbroncoswire.usatoday.com%2F2 022%2F09%2F23%2Fdenver-broncos-alternate-uniforms-2022-nfl-week-3-snf%2F

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Agreed I was skeptical but so far so good for him and in further review Cam Fleming is playing well opposite him. So luckily bringing Fleming back was the answer at RT for the time being to keep Anderson on the bench where he belongs. Turner can stay on the bench as well IMO. So RT and LT may not be issues I thought they would be. Still a lot of football left. The tackle situation is encouraging and I'm sure Russ is happy as well :lol:. We def need Meinerz back at guard. Glasgow and Risner are meh right now. Cush has gone from below avg to serviceable so perhaps the scheme change will end up a net positive for the OL as a whole.....
Oh really ? So perhaps coach and his coaching and his system is good stuff pretty much? Yeah? Right!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1573042049032544256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1573042049032544256%7Ctwgr% 5E6a27daea9971fdd2d0c69f3bb695e287b250ebcf%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbroncoswire.usatoday.com%2F2 022%2F09%2F23%2Fdenver-broncos-alternate-uniforms-2022-nfl-week-3-snf%2F

Ooooooooh yes lawd yes lawd these are my favorite uniforms right here!!!!! The blue on blue on blue is so sexy man it’s going to be a awesome game just on the jerseys alone!

Nothing like the dark blues on a night game baby! This is going to be a break out game for a lot of guys and I cannot wait

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Idk why they haven’t made these all blues our primary home game uniforms. It makes no sense to wear the blue tops and white bottoms at home and only whip out your best home game jerseys ( blue on blue) every once in awhile smh

[R8R H8R]

Agreed. Let’s do it!
. https://twitter.com/dr_nmanning/status/1573278980664627200?s=21&t=D-B0pxBir68C6SHymOA4NA

[Krugan]

Oh really ? So perhaps coach and his coaching and his system is good stuff pretty much? Yeah? Right!

You really need to stop being so linear.

No one has said he needs to be fired or has no chance of being successful. Just that his first attempts here are pretty messy.

Its not just one side or the other, there are all sort of shades of suck, and he is trying his best to get them out of the way early. Its okay to say this was bad, or this looked good, or that has improved, or he has backslid on that.

Or **** it, its all sunshine and rainbows and glitter flying out his unicorn arse. New team name, Denver Unicorns, where everything is always like a drag queen strip club....

[Denver Native (Carol)]

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — Ten Broncos were officially listed as questionable to play in Sunday night's matchup with the 49ers.

Cornerback Pat Surtain II (shoulder), wide receivers Jerry Jeudy (rib/shoulder) and KJ Hamler (knee/hip), inside linebacker Josey Jewell (calf/knee), guard Quinn Meinerz (hamstring), offensive lineman Billy Turner (knee), defensive linemen Dre'Mont Jones (neck) and Mike Purcell (elbow), wide receiver Tyrie Cleveland (hamstring) and outside linebacker Jonathon Cooper (hamstring) are all questionable for "Sunday Night Football."

Cornerback Darius Phillips (hamstring) was the only player ruled out.

rest - https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/injuryreport/injury-report-jerry-jeudy-returns-to-practice-among-10-broncos-listed-as-questio

[Buff]

rest - https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/injuryreport/injury-report-jerry-jeudy-returns-to-practice-among-10-broncos-listed-as-questio

https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1573403532476252160

Will be interesting to see who goes of the Friday limited bunch.

[Davii]

That’s a long list but great news that only Darius has been officially ruled out

[Eddiemac87]

49ERS
OUT: RB Tyrion Davis-Price (ankle), TE Tyler Kroft (knee), OG Daniel Brunskill (hamstring)
QUESTIONABLE: OT Colton McKivitz (ankle), DE Arik Armstead (foot)

BRONCOS
OUT: CB Darius Phillips (hamstring)
QUESTIONABLE: WR Jerry Jeudy (knee/hip), WR Tyrie Cleveland (hamstring), WR KJ Hamler (knee/hip), OL Quinn Meinerz (hamstring), OL Billy Turner (knee), DL Mike Purcell (elbow), DE Dre'Mont Jones (neck), LB Jonathon Cooper (hamstring), LB Josey Jewell (calf/knee), CB Pat Surtain II (shoulder)

[Enter The Dragon]

Kittle is a go

[dogfish]

fingers crossed for surtain. . .

i have to say, it's amusing me how people across the internets are all like "jimmy G's playing, the broncos are screwed!". . . i get that he is, at this stage, a more polished passer than trey lance. . . so are about 30 other QBs in the NFL-- it's not a very high bar to clear. . . jimmy is a capable player, he absolutely isn't anything special. . . and last week was the first game action he's seen in some time. . . if we do lose to the niners, it'll be because of their defense and their run game, not the QB who no one wanted. . . i expect a physical, low-scoring game. . . and hackett better be ready to go this week. . .

[Davii]

Just to make sure I've read this properly over the last few days:

We're currently the #5 defense (#5 against the pass, #5 against the run, #1 at forcing fumbles)
We're currently the #7 offense (yards gained total) but #10 passing and number 5 rushing offense.

The Niners are no slouch in these categories either allowing ~40 less passing yards and ~20 less rushing yards. That being said, their first game was in a monsoon where nobody was moving the ball.

I REALLY think, if we can start putting things together and getting better execution and an improvement in penalties/decision timeliness from Cach Hackett we win this Sunday. I don't think we stomp them, but I do think we win by more than 7.

[BroncoWave]

fingers crossed for surtain. . .

i have to say, it's amusing me how people across the internets are all like "jimmy G's playing, the broncos are screwed!". . . i get that he is, at this stage, a more polished passer than trey lance. . . so are about 30 other QBs in the NFL-- it's not a very high bar to clear. . . jimmy is a capable player, he absolutely isn't anything special. . . and last week was the first game action he's seen in some time. . . if we do lose to the niners, it'll be because of their defense and their run game, not the QB who no one wanted. . . i expect a physical, low-scoring game. . . and hackett better be ready to go this week. . .

It's like everyone has just completely forgotten that the 49ers were trying like hell to trade him all off-season and literally couldn't give him away. If we lose it's not going to be because Jimmy G slices us up.

[Eddiemac87]

The Denver Broncos have an interesting injury report on Friday with nearly everyone listed as “Questionable”. The only player ruled out for Sunday’s game is reserve cornerback Darius Phillips. The good news is that a few key starters ramped up their practice time and even wide receiver Jerry Jeudy returned. He was looking good.

Pat Surtain also told reporters he is pretty confident that he’ll play on Sunday. That leaves, really, three DNP players from today’s injury status to look for on gameday. The biggest name there is interior defensive lineman Dre’Mont Jones who is coming off a monster Week 2 performance. Tyrie Cleveland and Jonathon Cooper are the other two, but it is Jones who the Broncos would miss the most on Sunday.

Keys to victory!

1: Nail the dang details.

This is probably going to be our #1 key to victory until it’s resolved.

Through 2 weeks of play the Broncos lead the league in penalties at 25. The next closest team, the Browns, have only 19 penalties so far. 25 penalties is also the highest figure in Broncos team history through 2 weeks of play. That’s right: this is a historic level of lack of discipline.

It’s safe to say that this excessive lack of discipline, combined with game management issues from coach Hackett, forms the biggest single obstacle between this Broncos team and success- in this game or any other. When you have to take timeouts on 4th down twice in a game because your decision-making is utterly indecisive and/or because simple things like getting the right guys onto the field of play for a punt return is apparently too hard... that is humiliating for a franchise with as storied a history as the Broncos.

You can’t move on to trying to outfox the other team if you’re still too busy beating yourself. If the Broncos want to win the game, they need to win the battle in their own heads first.

2: Don’t let the 49ers offense dictate the game.
Under Kyle Shanahan the 49ers are the running-est team in football. Their 82 rushing attempts is the most of any team through 2 games, and that at an efficient 4.5 yards per carry. If they can get going on the ground they will absolutely use that as a crutch to help Jimmy Garoppolo as he continues catching up from his offseason/preseason as the Forgotten Man.

Moreover, if the 49ers can gain and keep the initiative on the ground, they’ll be able to control the clock and the pace of the game. This is a home game, and Denver needs to seize on the advantage that offers by controlling the pace themselves. Otherwise the effects of altitude and crowd noise can be notably mitigated.

So if the Broncos are to win, they need to limit the damage on the ground. A lot of that is on the shoulders of former 49er DJ Jones & his fellow defensive linemen- a unit that’s been pretty stout so far. We’ll also need significant run stopping contributions from our inside linebackers, where we’ll hopefully finally have Josey Jewell back on the field, and on the edges from guys like Baron Browning.

3: Force turnovers.
If the offense can’t work out its red zone kinks and score reliably, then the defense will need to fill in the gap. It’s frustrating that that’s the reality yet again, but at least this year there’s plenty of reason to hope for progress as Wilson & company gain experience together in this scheme.

But for this week, the Broncos really need to win the turnover battle. Jimmy Garoppolo got almost no meaningful playing time or practice leading up to the season, which opens up the possibility of miscommunications with his receivers, bad route/pass timings, etc. Denver needs to capitalize on any mistakes and come up with at least 2 turnovers.

For my part, I’m hoping we’ll see Pat Surtain II return to the field this Sunday and take a pass all the way in the other direction for a pick six.

Give the offense a couple of short fields, along with the opportunity to surge into a lead or at least put enough points on the board to get comfortable, and we may start seeing the team work out its issues a little bit.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hoping Jeudy surtain and hamler are all ready to rock n roll! We’re gonna need surtain to shut down samuels for obvious reasons, and we definitely need to get Wilson his weapons back!!! I’m ready to see more deep ball’s! You can tell there right on the cusps of exploding

[underrated29]

I think jj will play and be fine. Not sure about hamler. With Hinton active leads me to believe hammy has a hammy.

Surtain is coo. I'm worried about kittle and ayiuk.



I do agree they're on the cusp to explode. Not sure it's this week tho. I still think it'll take 2 to 3 more games for it to all come together.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck@TroyRenck·4h

Based on Friday and information Saturday, expectation is Jeudy and Surtain will play. Both said as much on Friday. Surtain was practicing all week. Wasn’t really a question. And Jeudy took huge step forward Friday and said after practice he expected to play. Both needed #Denver7

[dogfish]

i suggested earlier that this is something that should happen. . . no way of knowing for sure who initiated this, but props to the team for making the move to correct an issue, and to hackett for not being too proud to get help. . . it's foolish to suffer from needless, self-inflicted mistakes when you have as many resources at your disposal as he does-- it's just nice to see a coach who is actually willing to make use of those resources rather than stubbornly doubling and tripling down on failed strategies. . .



Shortly after his first win as head coach of the Denver Broncos, Nathaniel Hackett was too busy evaluating another game-management debacle to celebrate.

Hackett quickly took action that led him to begin the process of hiring highly regarded NFL coach Jerry Rosburg to the Broncos staff as senior assistant, 9NEWS has learned. Rosburg had been with the Broncos all week, observing practices and talking with personnel while his specific role and contract were being finalized. The hiring was finalized late Friday afternoon in time for Rosburg to assist Hackett for the game Sunday night against the San Francisco 49ers at Empower Field at Mile High.


One of the most respected assistant coaches in recent NFL history, the 66-year old Rosburg had been a longtime special teams coordinator, associate head coach and game-day czar to Baltimore Ravens’ coach Jim Harbaugh during the team’s highly successful run from 2008 until his retirement following the 2018 season.


With the Broncos, Rosburg will provide a veteran presence to one of the league’s least experienced coaching staffs. Rosburg will be in the coaches’ box during games – starting Sunday night when the Broncos meet the 49ers – wearing a headset that enables him to communicate directly with Hackett regarding game-day decisions and operations.

https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-klis/hackett-brings-in-jerry-rosburg/73-f0f3ef31-9b0b-4958-ba25-e7ea0f929753

[Davii]

i suggested earlier that this is something that should happen. . . no way of knowing for sure who initiated this, but props to the team for making the move to correct an issue, and to hackett for not being too proud to get help. . . it's foolish to suffer from needless, self-inflicted mistakes when you have as many resources at your disposal as he does-- it's just nice to see a coach who is actually willing to make use of those resources rather than stubbornly doubling and tripling down on failed strategies. . .








https://www.9news.com/article/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/mike-klis/hackett-brings-in-jerry-rosburg/73-f0f3ef31-9b0b-4958-ba25-e7ea0f929753

Huge news. I honestly think this was initiated by Hackett. George probably handled finding Rosburg and making it all happen but I doubt the GM would bring someone in at this juncture unless his brand new coach went to him and said he felt it was the right call.

This makes me like Hackett even more.

[BroncoWave]

Also looking forward to hamlers return baby!!!!!! I got a feeling this is the game that he takes off in and gains 100 percent of his confidence back and puts up some great stat’s. I’m seeing something along the lines of 8 catches 169 yards and 2 touchdowns.

So close. Just came 8 catches, 169 yards, and 2 TD shy of this. Near miss there.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

So close. Just came 8 catches, 169 yards, and 2 TD shy of this. Near miss there.

Smh oh aight

[BroncoWave]

Pretty much the only thing Hamler is good for at this point is getting past the defense like once a game and hoping Russ hits him on a deep ball. I had high hopes for him, and I get he might not be fully recovered yet, but it's hard not to call him a bust at this point. Dude is just a complete non-factor. Hinton needs to be firmly ahead of him on the depth chart at this point.

[Canmore]

Pretty much the only thing Hamler is good for at this point is getting past the defense like once a game and hoping Russ hits him on a deep ball. I had high hopes for him, and I get he might not be fully recovered yet, but it's hard not to call him a bust at this point. Dude is just a complete non-factor. Hinton needs to be firmly ahead of him on the depth chart at this point.

Hinton should be in front of Hamler and Jeudy. Dude will stick his nose in the fray.

[underrated29]

Don't agree. JJ is far ahead of every wr but Sutton. I find it odd people don't see it. Must be a Melvin Gordon thing.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Troy Renck@TroyRenck·4h

Based on Friday and information Saturday, expectation is Jeudy and Surtain will play. Both said as much on Friday. Surtain was practicing all week. Wasn’t really a question. And Jeudy took huge step forward Friday and said after practice he expected to play. Both needed #Denver7


Speaking of surtain man is this guy fricking elite or what??? Literally every assignment we give him vs the other teams number 1 WR does absolutely NOTHING!!! I love this kid man so glad we have ourselves a new champ
Bailey!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Pretty much the only thing Hamler is good for at this point is getting past the defense like once a game and hoping Russ hits him on a deep ball. I had high hopes for him, and I get he might not be fully recovered yet, but it's hard not to call him a bust at this point. Dude is just a complete non-factor. Hinton needs to be firmly ahead of him on the depth chart at this point.
Smh kids just coming back off a blown acl! Give him a break! Good grief

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hinton should be in front of Hamler and Jeudy. Dude will stick his nose in the fray.

Lol nah man and I love Hinton he’s a gamer. Was happy to see him on that Russell scramble drill find a hole and sat in there taking the hit. All of these guys have the ability to make play’s. Montrell is going to actually start receiving that jet sweep action and pop a couple of them watch. Don’t be surprised when he scores very soon on one of those jet sweeps we haven’t been actually giving him the ball on but using it to try and throw off the defense

[BroncoWave]

Smh kids just coming back off a blown acl! Give him a break! Good grief

Hamler has played 18 games in his career and has 35 catches, so basically 2 catches a game now in his third season. And in only 2 of those 18 games did he eclipse 50 yards, and he's yet to eclipse 100. You just need more than that from a second round pick. I get that he's coming off an ACL, but you can only use that as an excuse for so long. Guys like Hinton and Washington are quickly looking to pass him on the depth chart and not look back. This is a make or break year for Hamler. If he doesn't show something soon, I think there's a decent chance he's not a Bronco next year.

[Davii]

Hamler has played 18 games in his career and has 35 catches, so basically 2 catches a game now in his third season. And in only 2 of those 18 games did he eclipse 50 yards, and he's yet to eclipse 100. You just need more than that from a second round pick. I get that he's coming off an ACL, but you can only use that as an excuse for so long. Guys like Hinton and Washington are quickly looking to pass him on the depth chart and not look back. This is a make or break year for Hamler. If he doesn't show something soon, I think there's a decent chance he's not a Bronco next year.

I don’t see how anyone can disagree with this. This is a results oriented business, period. It doesn’t matter why you didn’t get the results or your potential for results.

[Buff]

Hamler has played 18 games in his career and has 35 catches, so basically 2 catches a game now in his third season. And in only 2 of those 18 games did he eclipse 50 yards, and he's yet to eclipse 100. You just need more than that from a second round pick. I get that he's coming off an ACL, but you can only use that as an excuse for so long. Guys like Hinton and Washington are quickly looking to pass him on the depth chart and not look back. This is a make or break year for Hamler. If he doesn't show something soon, I think there's a decent chance he's not a Bronco next year.

I think this is a case where he just hasn't fully recovered from his injury and as a speed/quickness guy he doesn't have the size or other skills to compensate in any other areas.

He was still talking as recently as like May/June about still being in a dark place trying to recover from the ACL and hip. It makes you wonder about the underlying pressures facing guys like him. The team really needs him to be on an accelerated recovery plan - I'm sure he wants to be 100% - but then does he end up doing more harm than good trying to rush back? Or is the nature of his injury/recovery such that he'll never be the same guy? Does he just need more time? It's a bummer because we only got to see the speed unleashed a couple of times. But the windows open and close quickly on these guys.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hamler has played 18 games in his career and has 35 catches, so basically 2 catches a game now in his third season. And in only 2 of those 18 games did he eclipse 50 yards, and he's yet to eclipse 100. You just need more than that from a second round pick. I get that he's coming off an ACL, but you can only use that as an excuse for so long. Guys like Hinton and Washington are quickly looking to pass him on the depth chart and not look back. This is a make or break year for Hamler. If he doesn't show something soon, I think there's a decent chance he's not a Bronco next year.

Okay so what’s the time frame for a guy coming off an blown ACL before it’s just an excuse? I’d like to hear this officially, so gone tell us what’s the time frame?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I don’t see how anyone can disagree with this. This is a results oriented business, period. It doesn’t matter why you didn’t get the results or your potential for results.

What’s the timeframe??

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I think this is a case where he just hasn't fully recovered from his injury and as a speed/quickness guy he doesn't have the size or other skills to compensate in any other areas.

He was still talking as recently as like May/June about still being in a dark place trying to recover from the ACL and hip. It makes you wonder about the underlying pressures facing guys like him. The team really needs him to be on an accelerated recovery plan - I'm sure he wants to be 100% - but then does he end up doing more harm than good trying to rush back? Or is the nature of his injury/recovery such that he'll never be the same guy? Does he just need more time? It's a bummer because we only got to see the speed unleashed a couple of times. But the windows open and close quickly on these guys.

Exactly he was in a dark depressed place dealing with his grand mom dying and then having the blown ACL, he really wants to be there for his team and contribute the way he knows he can, the way I know he can!!! This whole offense is going to be fine though just watch. Aaron rodgers year one in this offense didn’t have the greatest offense but the 2nd and 3rd year MVP seasons in this offense and top 3 in every positive offensive category.

This thing is going to work out like I said around week 7ish it’ll start truly clicking where we’re seeing 4-5 touchdown passes and scoring 40 plus point’s. But for now we’re going to be winning 17-6/ 20-7 type shit

[Canmore]

Okay so what’s the time frame for a guy coming off an blown ACL before it’s just an excuse? I’d like to hear this officially, so gone tell us what’s the time frame?

Most time frames for an ACL are a season lost and back the next year.

[Davii]

What’s the timeframe??

What's the contract? Who's behind you? How's the team doing without you? Are you replaceable? How much does it cost to move on? What's the opportunity cost to keep you vs cutting you (ie. sunk cost)?

There are too many variables. There are plenty of guys that never get the opportunity to even finish the recovery before they're unceremoniously cut loose. Again, this is a results oriented business, if someone else is able to produce the results then the train doesn't stop to let you on, it runs you over.

Is it fair? Hell no it's not fair, but there are a VERY limited amount of opportunities and THOUSANDS of people vying for that same opportunity. Is what it is.

Do I like it? No, you act as though people saying Hamler might not be here next year have some axe to grind with Hamler himself. Do yourself a favor and go search, I was happy as hell when Hamler's number was called. That's the type of speed we need to take the top off the D and open underneath routes as well as run lanes. You have to show it on gameday.

I hope KJ does, I hope he comes back and makes the probowl and is a badass.

So, how did your prediction go? Did KJ have a ton of yards and two touchdowns this week?

No, obviously not. Stop making predictions. You suck at it. Hell, with as often as you're wrong you might even be the reason it doesn't happen if you believe in jinxes and idiotic things like that.

[BroncoWave]

What's the contract? Who's behind you? How's the team doing without you? Are you replaceable? How much does it cost to move on? What's the opportunity cost to keep you vs cutting you (ie. sunk cost)?

There are too many variables. There are plenty of guys that never get the opportunity to even finish the recovery before they're unceremoniously cut loose. Again, this is a results oriented business, if someone else is able to produce the results then the train doesn't stop to let you on, it runs you over.

Is it fair? Hell no it's not fair, but there are a VERY limited amount of opportunities and THOUSANDS of people vying for that same opportunity. Is what it is.

Do I like it? No, you act as though people saying Hamler might not be here next year have some axe to grind with Hamler himself. Do yourself a favor and go search, I was happy as hell when Hamler's number was called. That's the type of speed we need to take the top off the D and open underneath routes as well as run lanes. You have to show it on gameday.

I hope KJ does, I hope he comes back and makes the probowl and is a badass.

So, how did your prediction go? Did KJ have a ton of yards and two touchdowns this week?

No, obviously not. Stop making predictions. You suck at it. Hell, with as often as you're wrong you might even be the reason it doesn't happen if you believe in jinxes and idiotic things like that.

Well said. I have nothing against the guy. I'd love nothing more than for him to fulfill the potential the team saw in him to use a second round pick on him. But the fact is NFL teams will only wait so long for a guy who hasn't performed and is constantly injured to get healthy. If he goes through this season without getting hurt again and is only getting 1 or 2 catches a game if that, I don't think he'll be long for this team. Especially given that he was drafted under a completely different coaching staff, front office, and ownership group. It's probably easier to get rid of a guy whose success you don't have as personal a stake in.

[Eddiemac87]

No one has brought up… the number of fumbles, although all recover, by Gordon…. We really need to phase him out…ya he was the hot hand Sunday.. but almost gave up the ball several times..

[Elevation inc]

No one has brought up… the number of fumbles, although all recover, by Gordon…. We really need to phase him out…ya he was the hot hand Sunday.. but almost gave up the ball several times..

I have he sucks and I want him gone, 3 fumbles in 3 games....1 really hurt against Settle in typical Gordon Fashion, He scores some 1 yd TD's now again but the rest of his game is bleh.....He aint the same player and at best he should only see a 30% snap count.

[Elevation inc]

Don't agree. JJ is far ahead of every wr but Sutton. I find it odd people don't see it. Must be a Melvin Gordon thing.

No its a actual performance thing some of us tend to ignore camp paradise practices and fancy route videos in shorts and t-shirts in favor of stats, Game performance, wins contributions in said wins etc......

[Elevation inc]

Our WR core was suspect entering the season for anyone that couldn't see we had Sutton and Patrick and that's about it. Jeudy is hype man extraordinaire ever year then is a ghost and Hamler will take time to get back healthy plain and simple. I actually am not all that concerned about Hamler though at the moment. His injury was no joke. Reality for him it was always going to be a long road back. I believe we should have patience with him this year. I still think he has something to contribute. Haven't given up on him yet. however he wasn't very good pre-injury last year either. So it remains to be seen if he can actually play WR effectively and consistently in the NFL when healthy.

I don't have a lot of irritation for Hamler right now. Jeudy on the other hand FML. Hinton needs some more reps he is gonna turn into our next Patrick and we should lock him up. Dude catches clutch passes and also is a willing blocker. The tape will show Hinton should get some more reps moving forward.

[Elevation inc]

Okay so what’s the time frame for a guy coming off an blown ACL before it’s just an excuse? I’d like to hear this officially, so gone tell us what’s the time frame?

For me I think around week 6-7 Hamler should be actively contributing and making plays IMO.

[Elevation inc]

Hamler has played 18 games in his career and has 35 catches, so basically 2 catches a game now in his third season. And in only 2 of those 18 games did he eclipse 50 yards, and he's yet to eclipse 100. You just need more than that from a second round pick. I get that he's coming off an ACL, but you can only use that as an excuse for so long. Guys like Hinton and Washington are quickly looking to pass him on the depth chart and not look back. This is a make or break year for Hamler. If he doesn't show something soon, I think there's a decent chance he's not a Bronco next year.

I would agree. I think he has to show some quality not just potential going into to second half of this year for sure or he wont be around long.....Same with Jeudy.

[BroncoWave]

I would agree. I think he has to show some quality not just potential going into to second half of this year for sure or he wont be around long.....Same with Jeudy.

With Jeudy being on a first round contract he probably gets to play out his last year next year unless he just completely shits down his leg the rest of the year. He at least showed in week 1 he can make the occasional big play, which is more than you can say for KJ.

[BroncoWave]

No its a actual performance thing some of us tend to ignore camp paradise practices and fancy route videos in shorts and t-shirts in favor of stats, Game performance, wins contributions in said wins etc......

No, UR is right here. JJ is our second most productive WR this season an it's not even close. You are underestimating how dire our WR position is past Sutton and JJ. JJ literally has more catches, yards, and TD than the rest of the WRs on this team combined not named Sutton. Rare UR W here.

Sutton: 19 rec, 291 yds, 0 TD
Jeudy: 7 rec, 130 yds, 1 TD
Hinton: 2 rec, 47 yds, 0 TD
Cleveland: 2 rec, 28 yds, 0 TD.
Hamler, Washington: no catches.

[Krugan]

This WR group is really not as deep or nearly as good as most had hoped.

There is a chance it could all change, but man do they need to step up.

[BroncoWave]

This WR group is really not as deep or nearly as good as most had hoped.

There is a chance it could all change, but man do they need to step up.

It's honestly nuts that every WR outside our top 2 has 4 total catches in 3 games. Someone definitely needs to step up, or we'll need to go acquire someone around the deadline. Either that or take a stab at OBJ or Fuller off the free agent pile.

[dogfish]

The depth wide receivers will be more productive once Russ gets his timing down. The loss of Patrick really does hurt, though. Having him as a legit number two allowed all of the other guys to slot in where they belong.

[Buff]

The depth wide receivers will be more productive once Russ gets his timing down. The loss of Patrick really does hurt, though. Having him as a legit number two allowed all of the other guys to slot in where they belong.

When you listen to Hackett describe the offense - it's clear this is a thinking man's scheme. They have multiple plays called at all times - everything is contingent on making the right reads based on the look the defense is giving you... I'm sure the WRs are running a ton of option routes. Which, on one level, duh - it's the NFL... But you can't underestimate how much reps/experience/continuity matters in this type of system... I'm encouraged that we are implementing an offensive scheme with staying power, with a QB who we are committed to, and think it will only continue to get better.

[Rosebus]

All I can think is thank god Elway is no longer running our draft room. It's easy to go back and re-hash a draft with 20-20 hindsight, but man did he whiff on Jeudy. It's easy to say should have taken the other JJ, but it seems pretty obvious for the reasons stated. Jefferson is a flat out baller while Jeudy appears to be as soft as a marshmallow. I didn't fault him for that longball against the niners but after watching the way DeVonta Smith went after that deep ball, it's obvious Jeudy aint that good.

And then you look at Hurts going in the second round and we're a QB desperate, not needy, franchise and he doesn't take a 2nd round flier on that guy and instead takes a Hamler, yuck.

[BroncoWave]

All I can think is thank god Elway is no longer running our draft room. It's easy to go back and re-hash a draft with 20-20 hindsight, but man did he whiff on Jeudy. It's easy to say should have taken the other JJ, but it seems pretty obvious for the reasons stated. Jefferson is a flat out baller while Jeudy appears to be as soft as a marshmallow. I didn't fault him for that longball against the niners but after watching the way DeVonta Smith went after that deep ball, it's obvious Jeudy aint that good.

And then you look at Hurts going in the second round and we're a QB desperate, not needy, franchise and he doesn't take a 2nd round flier on that guy and instead takes a Hamler, yuck.

The long ball to Jeudy against SF was underthrown by Russ. Jeudy had the guy beat and it would have been a TD with an on-target throw. Jeudy is definitely getting the point where he needs to start breaking out, but it's insane to me to call him a bust at this point. He still shows flashes, like in week 1, which that TD was also an underthrown ball that he went and got.

[Rosebus]

The long ball to Jeudy against SF was underthrown by Russ. Jeudy had the guy beat and it would have been a TD with an on-target throw. Jeudy is definitely getting the point where he needs to start breaking out, but it's insane to me to call him a bust at this point. He still shows flashes, like in week 1, which that TD was also an underthrown ball that he went and got.

I hear you, but I want a little more fight in that dog and I just don't see it.

[NightTrainLayne]

It's honestly nuts that every WR outside our top 2 has 4 total catches in 3 games. Someone definitely needs to step up, or we'll need to go acquire someone around the deadline. Either that or take a stab at OBJ or Fuller off the free agent pile.

We're really. . . REALLY missing Patrick.

[underrated29]

The depth wide receivers will be more productive once Russ gets his timing down. The loss of Patrick really does hurt, though. Having him as a legit number two allowed all of the other guys to slot in where they belong.

This. Wr depth is fine! It only seems this way because the offense is so anemic. I'm truly shocked many don't see this or think otherwise.

Jeudy is a really good wr. He drops balls but he's always getting open. They're just so bad right now that we suck. It's also why I said all camp Courtland is the guy because you cam just throw it near him. Like I said about the defense being 2015 lite. Like I said about chubb and Gregory too.

So I'm still saying week 5 or so we see the o turn it around. We might beat up on the sad raiders but don't let that fool you. They're not there yet. They need 2 to 3 more weeks. Then we will see the power of russ and our wr just fine.

Brandon Johnson comes off IR then too.

[underrated29]

We're really. . . REALLY missing Patrick.

We do! He and Sutton on outside for russ jump balls and JJ slicing the middle will be Elite!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

All I can think is thank god Elway is no longer running our draft room. It's easy to go back and re-hash a draft with 20-20 hindsight, but man did he whiff on Jeudy. It's easy to say should have taken the other JJ, but it seems pretty obvious for the reasons stated. Jefferson is a flat out baller while Jeudy appears to be as soft as a marshmallow. I didn't fault him for that longball against the niners but after watching the way DeVonta Smith went after that deep ball, it's obvious Jeudy aint that good.

And then you look at Hurts going in the second round and we're a QB desperate, not needy, franchise and he doesn't take a 2nd round flier on that guy and instead takes a Hamler, yuck.

Smh let’s talk about your jacked up hindsight in a few weeks when Jeudy is catching 60 yard bombs for touchdowns….. like we didn’t clearly just see Jeudy run an amazing route totally destroying the CB and Safety beating them both on what shoulda been a touchdown had Wilson threw a ball that was just a little more accurate and over the top so the CB couldn’t get his fingers on it to break it up. It’s like just because the play didn’t happen you people think it wasn’t a great play by Jeudy when he did everything he was supposed to do smh

[Elevation inc]

No, UR is right here. JJ is our second most productive WR this season an it's not even close. You are underestimating how dire our WR position is past Sutton and JJ. JJ literally has more catches, yards, and TD than the rest of the WRs on this team combined not named Sutton. Rare UR W here.

Sutton: 19 rec, 291 yds, 0 TD
Jeudy: 7 rec, 130 yds, 1 TD
Hinton: 2 rec, 47 yds, 0 TD
Cleveland: 2 rec, 28 yds, 0 TD.
Hamler, Washington: no catches.

Hinton was a PS call up so of course he wont have more. However he has already made more clutch catches and in my view deserves more targets. I was one of the main critics of our WR room going into the season saying we had Patrick and Sutton and that was about it. That hasn't changed. My overall point is that I don't expect much out of Hamler for a couple more weeks. I am pretty much done with the diva know as Jeudy, and I believe we need to target Hinton and get Montrell involved. I also believe we need OBJ on speed dial :lol:

[Elevation inc]

The long ball to Jeudy against SF was underthrown by Russ. Jeudy had the guy beat and it would have been a TD with an on-target throw. Jeudy is definitely getting the point where he needs to start breaking out, but it's insane to me to call him a bust at this point. He still shows flashes, like in week 1, which that TD was also an underthrown ball that he went and got.

I'm done with Jeudy, In my mind he is a bust but realistically The season has to close to truly to determine that IMO. However for every flash play he makes there are about 4 plays a game he should have made as well and didn't, not to mention the injury and attitude diva shit. Is he realistically a bust yet? not quite but for a lot of us its pretty much a wrap on him.

[Elevation inc]

This. Wr depth is fine! It only seems this way because the offense is so anemic. I'm truly shocked many don't see this or think otherwise.

Jeudy is a really good wr. He drops balls but he's always getting open. They're just so bad right now that we suck. It's also why I said all camp Courtland is the guy because you cam just throw it near him. Like I said about the defense being 2015 lite. Like I said about chubb and Gregory too.

So I'm still saying week 5 or so we see the o turn it around. We might beat up on the sad raiders but don't let that fool you. They're not there yet. They need 2 to 3 more weeks. Then we will see the power of russ and our wr just fine.

Brandon Johnson comes off IR then too.

He is a hype kid, but that will def help if he can make plays....

[BroncoWave]

I'm done with Jeudy, In my mind he is a bust but realistically The season has to close to truly to determine that IMO. However for every flash play he makes there are about 4 plays a game he should have made as well and didn't, not to mention the injury and attitude diva shit. Is he realistically a bust yet? not quite but for a lot of us its pretty much a wrap on him.

This is probably a hot take, but I'm not sure Russ has totally helped the WRs much yet at this point either. His accuracy has been really off at times. If he can clean that up hopefully we'll start to see a little better production from all the WRs.

[Elevation inc]

This is probably a hot take, but I'm not sure Russ has totally helped the WRs much yet at this point either. His accuracy has been really off at times. If he can clean that up hopefully we'll start to see a little better production from all the WRs.

Sharpe alluded to it best you need to catch those passes plain and simple if its hitting your hands its catchable regardless of the trajectory of said pass. What's really funny is watching Jeudy snap at Sharpe on twitter because he got called out for not catching said passes and proceeded to engage in a petulant child moment then had to delete his tweet and then said no sense engaging after he already did and had to back track. Jeudy is a immature brat and hasn't show to be a very good receiver on a even slightly consistent basis when it counts....I would agree perhaps a couple of the targets should have been better balls but you cant make a play week 1 on a shitty ball and say great play by Jeudy and then when he has it in his hands and drops and should have made the play say bad throw by Russ. That's wanting it both ways. He is a WR if the ball hits his hands he needs to catch it. He has a history of not so he has to change that period.

[BroncoWave]

Sharpe alluded to it best you need to catch those passes plain and simple if its hitting your hands its catchable regardless of the trajectory of said pass. What's really funny is watching Jeudy snap at Sharpe on twitter because he got called out for not catching said passes and proceeded to engage in a petulant child moment then had to delete his tweet and then said no sense engaging after he already did and had to back track. Jeudy is a immature brat and hasn't show to be a very good receiver on a even slightly consistent basis when it counts....I would agree perhaps a couple of the targets should have been better balls but you cant make a play week 1 on a shitty ball and say great play by Jeudy and then when he has it in his hands and drops and should have made the play say bad throw by Russ. That's wanting it both ways. He is a WR if the ball hits his hands he needs to catch it. He has a history of not so he has to change that period.

The difference in the two deep balls that were bad throws where he caught one and not the other is that the one he didn't catch was tipped at the last second before it got to him. Pretty sure it's not counted as a drop in the official stats in that case. I'm not going to fault anyone for not making a catch when a ball is tipped and changes speed and direction right before it gets to him. If you still want to criticize him that's fair, but you should be criticizing Russ equally for a bad throw. Jeudy smoked the defender and would have been an easy TD with an on-target pass. Russ has been sold to us as a deep ball specialist, so he should be held to a pretty high standard of being accurate on those throws.

I won't argue on Jeudy's maturity. I didn't see whatever deleted Tweet you're talking about, but I don't really care what a player does on Twitter honestly. I just think the whole passing offense has been such a mess because Russ doesn't have great chemistry with anyone yet that it seems unfair to place all this blame soley on Jeudy's feet. Everyone in the offense could be playing better right now.

[Elevation inc]

The difference in the two deep balls that were bad throws where he caught one and not the other is that the one he didn't catch was tipped at the last second before it got to him. Pretty sure it's not counted as a drop in the official stats in that case. I'm not going to fault anyone for not making a catch when a ball is tipped and changes speed and direction right before it gets to him. If you still want to criticize him that's fair, but you should be criticizing Russ equally for a bad throw. Jeudy smoked the defender and would have been an easy TD with an on-target pass. Russ has been sold to us as a deep ball specialist, so he should be held to a pretty high standard of being accurate on those throws.

I won't argue on Jeudy's maturity. I didn't see whatever deleted Tweet you're talking about, but I don't really care what a player does on Twitter honestly. I just think the whole passing offense has been such a mess because Russ doesn't have great chemistry with anyone yet that it seems unfair to place all this blame soley on Jeudy's feet. Everyone in the offense could be playing better right now.

I would agree there are plenty of offensive issues and blame to go around but Jeudy was a off-season darling from all around the NFL again and now 3 weeks in the reality is starting to show again of what he actually is at that position. 3 years of hype and not a lot to show for it.....14 Games to get it together I guess......I'm kind of tired of hearing about the pass from the Qb when its hitting your hands tipped or not its literally sitting in your mittens. I guarantee his WR coach let him know he needs to make that play. I got called out in high school for not making plays like that. Jeudy might find its a valid excuse but NFL Coaches are not okay regardless of circumstance when a ball is in your mittens and it falls to the ground. this is the NFL those excuses are shit in pretty much every coaches eyes unless its something rare and with Jeudy its not.

[BroncoWave]

I would agree there are plenty of offensive issues and blame to go around but Jeudy was a off-season darling from all around the NFL again and now 3 weeks in the reality is starting to show again of what he actually is at that position. 3 years of hype and not a lot to show for it.....14 Games to get it together I guess......I'm kind of tired of hearing about the pass from the Qb when its hitting your hands tipped or not its literally sitting in your mittens. I guarantee his WR coach let him know he needs to make that play. I got called out in high school for not making plays like that. Jeudy might find its a valid excuse but NFL Coaches are not okay regardless of circumstance when a ball is in your mittens and it falls to the ground. this is the NFL those excuses are shit in pretty much every coaches eyes unless its something rare and with Jeudy its not.

Russel Wilson is getting paid almost 50 million dollars a year over this contract. So yeah, he's paid to put those throws on the money. Jeudy is making about 4 million. I think it's completely fair to levy heavier criticism on the guy making over 10 times as much money.

Also, I'm fairly certain you have no clue what Jeudy's coaches are telling him, but that's fun speculation I suppose.

[BroncoWave]

Also, no one is impressed that you played HS FB. :D Probably 90% of this board played HS ball. I don't think that gives anyone any particular insight as to what happens in an NFL locker room.

[Helios]

The long ball to Jeudy against SF was underthrown by Russ. Jeudy had the guy beat and it would have been a TD with an on-target throw. Jeudy is definitely getting the point where he needs to start breaking out, but it's insane to me to call him a bust at this point. He still shows flashes, like in week 1, which that TD was also an underthrown ball that he went and got.

Underthrown? The ball was going to land in his hands running in stride.

Instead of fighting for the ball, raising his hands Jeudy, while the CB has his arm on his back, Jeudy does nothing. Every WR in the league is expected to fight for the ball except Jeudy. It was same week 1 in the long TD catch and run. With the defender closing in Jeudy is staying low expecting the ball to just land in his hands instead of fighting for it.

It's no wonder the guy gets banged up so often, it's like he's afraid of getting hit.

[BroncoWave]

Underthrown? The ball was going to land in his hands running in stride.

Instead of fighting for the ball, raising his hands Jeudy, while the CB has his arm on his back, Jeudy does nothing. Every WR in the league is expected to fight for the ball except Jeudy. It was same week 1 in the long TD catch and run. With the defender closing in Jeudy is staying low expecting the ball to just land in his hands instead of fighting for it.

It's no wonder the guy gets banged up so often, it's like he's afraid of getting hit.

It hit the trailing defender in the hands. A perfectly thrown ball would have been a bit out in front of Jeudy and untouchable by the defender. The fact that a trailing defender was able to get a hand on the ball makes it absolutely underthrown. If you want to argue Jeudy could have fought for it more, I won't argue with that, but it was not a perfectly thrown ball.

[Helios]

It hit the trailing defender in the hands. A perfectly thrown ball would have been a bit out in front of Jeudy and untouchable by the defender. The fact that a trailing defender was able to get a hand on the ball makes it absolutely underthrown. If you want to argue Jeudy could have fought for it more, I won't argue with that, but it was not a perfectly thrown ball.

Uhm, what? When did I say it was a perfectly thrown ball?

The CB reached forward to defend the pass like he's supposed to. Jeudy didn't reach up, adjust, or shield the defender away.
One guy did his job, the other played soft.

Also, we know what happens if the ball is thrown a bit in front of Jeudy.

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[Helios]

Oops, it wasn't a perfectly thrown ball!!

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[Helios]

Why can't my QB just drop the ball in these great hands!!!

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/P8xA.GCwjyFCmy_R9RDmcg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-images/2019-11/c736d350-0718-11ea-ba77-36ce4f9a0f05

[BroncoWave]

I hold my 50 million dollar QB to a higher standard than my 4 million dollar wideout, sorry. Yeah Jeudy could have made the catch, but the guy we traded our future for and we're breaking the bank for should throw more accurate deep balls which have been his bread and butter in his career. We shouldn't need to be relying on our WRs to make spectacular catches every time he throws the ball downfield.

[Helios]

Here's the ball in the air.

The CB is already in the air, timed his jump to defend the pass (so much for the ball hitting him in the hands).

Jeudy has his hands in front of his chest even though he knows/sees the defender is behind him.
No effort to elevate, jump, raise his hands and extend. He's just expected the ball to just fall in his hands.

The defender is making a play on the ball, in a close game where you have clear grass in front of you, you know it's coming to you, WTF are you waiting for? Go fight for the ball. But instead, it's like "nah dude, the ball has to land in my hands."

:rolleyes:

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[BroncoJoe]

Patrick and/or Sutton would have made that catch....

I like Jeudy a lot. I have high hopes for him, but he's just not preforming as well as expected for a 1st round draft pick.

[BroncoWave]

Patrick and/or Sutton would have made that catch....

I like Jeudy a lot. I have high hopes for him, but he's just not preforming as well as expected for a 1st round draft pick.

Would Sutton have? He's been very good this year, but he doesn't exactly burn people for deep TDs on a week to week basis, that's not really his game. He's also had his fair share of the dropsies.With the position the defender was in and where the ball was thrown, that would have been a tough catch for anyone to make. It just feels bizarre to me that this play is the hill the Jeudy haters (not saying you are one) are dying on.

[Rosebus]

Anyone see the Tee Higgins catch at the back of the endzone? Was out of bounds as his heel hit the line but does anyone think Jeudy's going up to make a grab like that? Me neither.

And that was a pretty damn good throw by Wilson, for the record. Sometime receivers need to go up and make a play. Can't expect to waltz around untouched.

[Helios]

Patrick and/or Sutton would have made that catch....

I like Jeudy a lot. I have high hopes for him, but he's just not preforming as well as expected for a 1st round draft pick.

I liked Jeudy and had high hopes for him too. But at this point he's just playing soft. Even before his shoulder injury (week 1) he was pulling the same crap in body catching passes instead of extending his arms and high pointing the ball like he's supposed to.

This is week 1 off the the TD catch and run. The defender clearly has his arms extended trying to break up the pass. Jeudy is just lying low, again hands close to his chest expecting the ball to fall into his hands. No effort to extend, box out the defender, out jump the guy. Nothing. Imagine DBs playing like Jeudy, not extending their arms and fighting for the ball.

A late round rookie in Montrell Washington who was drafted to be a returner can jump and extend to fight for the ball, but Jeudy is like "nah bro, that's not how you play WR."

I miss Tim Patrick.

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[BroncoWave]

Oh hey I can share a still pic too!

https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/XU7SORESFBEJDGLBX4Q37DBB7M.jpg

[BroncoWave]

I liked Jeudy and had high hopes for him too. But at this point he's just playing soft. Even before his shoulder injury (week 1) he was pulling the same crap in body catching passes instead of extending his arms and high pointing the ball like he's supposed to.

This is week 1 off the the TD catch and run. The defender clearly has his arms extended trying to break up the pass. Jeudy is just lying low, again hands close to his chest expecting the ball to fall into his hands. No effort to extend, box out the defender, out jump the guy. Nothing. Imagine DBs playing like Jeudy, not extending their arms and fighting for the ball.

A late round rookie in Montrell Washington who was drafted to be a returner can jump and extend to fight for the ball, but Jeudy is like "nah bro, that's not how you play WR."

I miss Tim Patrick.

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The fact that you're criticizing him for how he went about making a deep TD catch kinda shows how fully of shit you are here. Obviously his way worked there. Didn't work against SF. Neither throw was perfect. Made a play on one, just missed on the other. Shit happens.

[Helios]

The fact that you're criticizing him for how he went about making a deep TD catch kinda shows how fully of shit you are here. Obviously his way worked there. Didn't work against SF. Neither throw was perfect. Made a play on one, just missed on the other. Shit happens.

Criticizing a WR for not extending and fighting for the ball is pretty normal going back to basic football. Unless you happen to be a snowflake.

[BroncoWave]

snowflake.

Oh, you're one of those total losers who uses this term unironically. Got it.

[dogfish]

Jerry Jeudy-- the most excuses since Tebow, and the worst hand since Darius Watts.

:lol:

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Criticizing a WR for not extending and fighting for the ball is pretty normal going back to basic football. Unless you happen to be a snowflake.

Dude you post a picture of how he scored a touchdown…… when you are critical of how somebody scores a touchdown you’ve reached levels of scorn lover behavior that modern medicine hasn’t figured out yet.

You blame him for a underthrown ball when he’s running full speed because he didn’t jump??? How the hell was he going to jump when he’s running full speed to beat the safety and the corner which he did! Had Wilson put it out where he usually would that’s a touchdown. You people are just all over Jeudy but im used to this by now. Broncos fans hate talent and it’s widely known across fan bases.

[Canmore]

Underthrown? The ball was going to land in his hands running in stride.

Instead of fighting for the ball, raising his hands Jeudy, while the CB has his arm on his back, Jeudy does nothing. Every WR in the league is expected to fight for the ball except Jeudy. It was same week 1 in the long TD catch and run. With the defender closing in Jeudy is staying low expecting the ball to just land in his hands instead of fighting for it.

It's no wonder the guy gets banged up so often, it's like he's afraid of getting hit.

No 'like' about it.

[Canmore]

I hold my 50 million dollar QB to a higher standard than my 4 million dollar wideout, sorry. Yeah Jeudy could have made the catch, but the guy we traded our future for and we're breaking the bank for should throw more accurate deep balls which have been his bread and butter in his career. We shouldn't need to be relying on our WRs to make spectacular catches every time he throws the ball downfield.

This is the NFL and for Jeudy it's not for long.

[BroncoWave]

Jerry Jeudy-- the most excuses since Tebow, and the worst hand since Darius Watts.

:lol:

Ok, but when we're criticizing him because we didn't like his style on a 60 yard TD catch, we've reached a bizarre level of derangement where we aren't even being rational anymore.

[Krugan]

Jerry has failed to live up to his draft position, if he were a QB, this board would have tar feathered, re-tarred, and buried it already.

Lots of excuses have been made, bad scheme, bad qb play, bad scheme, more bad qb play, not enough time to "Gel" that one is my favorite, its acceptable to an extent for sure.

Sometimes, players just do not get it, sometimes the get it but don't have the goods, sometimes they are players from all world schools who destroy non-all world schools and are thought to be more than they actually are.

We have a season to sort it out, I sure hopes he is just a late bloomer or a slow learner or just trying to find his confidence after having a slow start, because first round picks are in short supply around here.

[Canmore]

Ok, but when we're criticizing him because we didn't like his style on a 60 yard TD catch, we've reached a bizarre level of derangement where we aren't even being rational anymore.

Blind squirrel.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

This is the NFL and for Jeudy it's not for long.

No the NFL is 50 million dollar quarterback makes the WRs look good. For you and anybody else expecting Jeudy to stop on a dime and leap into the air back into the DB who made a play aswell due to the ball being underthrown is just foolish. It wasn’t supposed to be a 50-50 ball it was a play where Jeudy splits the CB and the got damn safety and Wilson drops it right over the top for a catch n score! It’s unrealistic to expect a human being to stop on a ******* dime while running 20 mph and jump backwards into a man and catch a ball. That ball shoulda been where it’s suppose to been. I can deal with calling out drops and shit but you folks are reaching levels where your saying dumb shit that’s unrealistic and even blaming him for Wilson not doing his job! It was close though it’s coming

[Krugan]

Ok, but when we're criticizing him because we didn't like his style on a 60 yard TD catch, we've reached a bizarre level of derangement where we aren't even being rational anymore.

Maybe, if he drops the balls the same way he catches them, does the one catch excuse all the drops?

Seems like at least a discussion point.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Jerry has failed to live up to his draft position, if he were a QB, this board would have tar feathered, re-tarred, and buried it already.

Lots of excuses have been made, bad scheme, bad qb play, bad scheme, more bad qb play, not enough time to "Gel" that one is my favorite, its acceptable to an extent for sure.

Sometimes, players just do not get it, sometimes the get it but don't have the goods, sometimes they are players from all world schools who destroy non-all world schools and are thought to be more than they actually are.

We have a season to sort it out, I sure hopes he is just a late bloomer or a slow learner or just trying to find his confidence after having a slow start, because first round picks are in short supply around here.

If they haven’t figured it out by week 8 then talk to me. The offense has yet to pop. But it definitely will and when it does I bet Jeudy is a part of it

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Maybe, if he drops the balls the same way he catches them, does the one catch excuse all the drops?

Seems like at least a discussion point.

What drops?

[Helios]

Oh hey I can share a still pic too!

https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/XU7SORESFBEJDGLBX4Q37DBB7M.jpg

Thanks, another example that proves my point that jeudy doesn't extend out with his arms to catch the ball. Just body catches giving the defender a chance to defend or intercept the ball.

Dude doesn't even have his fingers wrapped around the ball.

[BroncoWave]

Maybe, if he drops the balls the same way he catches them, does the one catch excuse all the drops?

Seems like at least a discussion point.

According to this, Jeudy has one drop this season. Which is the same as Sutton. Let's not be disingenuous and act like Jeudy is dropping balls left and right. and BTW, that was not a drop on the deep pass this week. Once a defender breaks up the pass, that's no longer considered a drop. His only true drop was that one at the end of the Seattle game.

https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=AFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=

[Helios]

You blame him for a underthrown ball when he’s running full speed because he didn’t jump??? How the hell was he going to jump when he’s running full speed to beat the safety and the corner which he did!

I was pretty clear in my post. I'm not blaming him for the underthrown ball, I'm blaming him for piss poor technique catching the ball when:
1. He's known to have issues with drops.
2. It's clearly affecting other passes (like the 49ers game).

How was he supposed to jump? I don't know, use his legs like every other WR in the league? Maybe extend your arms out?
You know, the kind of basics that are taught from pee wee football.

[Krugan]

If they haven’t figured it out by week 8 then talk to me. The offense has yet to pop. But it definitely will and when it does I bet Jeudy is a part of it

I do not want to talk to you now, why would I then?

I am sorry your name sake has been so unbecoming of your skills....

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Thanks, another example that proves my point that jeudy doesn't extend out with his arms to catch the ball. Just body catches giving the defender a chance to defend or intercept the ball.

Dude doesn't even have his fingers wrapped around the ball.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hu2_1lZAKzY?feature=share Like this??? Oh wait

[Krugan]

According to this, Jeudy has one drop this season. Which is the same as Sutton. Let's not be disingenuous and act like Jeudy is dropping balls left and right. and BTW, that was not a drop on the deep pass this week. Once a defender breaks up the pass, that's no longer considered a drop. His only true drop was that one at the end of the Seattle game.

https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=AFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=

the complaint from what I am reading is he is not battling for the catches, extending such and so forth, whether they are tips or drops, his position while waiting for the ball to come to him looks to be pretty consistant.

Either way, he is under performing.

[BroncoWave]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hu2_1lZAKzY?feature=share Like this??? Oh wait

I'm generally with you that Jeudy hasn't been AS bad as people are acting like, but I'm not sure this is the best example to make your point. There literally wasn't a defender within 10 yards of him when he caught that. I'd hope he'd be able to make a flawless catch there.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I was pretty clear in my post. I'm not blaming him for the underthrown ball, I'm blaming him for piss poor technique catching the ball when:
1. He's known to have issues with drops.
2. It's clearly affecting other passes (like the 49ers game).

How was he supposed to jump? I don't know, use his legs like every other WR in the league? Maybe extend your arms out?
You know, the kind of basics that are taught from pee wee football.

So every WR is a jump ball type of guy??? Lol man guys like you just don’t get it, that’s not that man’s game. Jeudy is more Marvin Harrison once him and Wilson gets that chemistry. He’s not the go up and snag it guy. Smh once Jeudy as an elite route runner creates the space it’s on the quarterback to throw a accurate ball. You people just don’t understand skills and skill sets and all WRs aren’t created equal. Smh total novice’s

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I'm generally with you that Jeudy hasn't been AS bad as people are acting like, but I'm not sure this is the best example to make your point. There literally wasn't a defender within 10 yards of him when he caught that. I'd hope he'd be able to make a flawless catch there.

He said he never extends his arms out and he’s purely a body catcher…. Which he does do at times and at times he doesn’t.

Emanuel sanders was a body catcher aswell

[Helios]

No the NFL is 50 million dollar quarterback makes the WRs look good. For you and anybody else expecting Jeudy to stop on a dime and leap into the air back into the DB who made a play aswell due to the ball being underthrown is just foolish. It wasn’t supposed to be a 50-50 ball it was a play where Jeudy splits the CB and the got damn safety and Wilson drops it right over the top for a catch n score! It’s unrealistic to expect a human being to stop on a ******* dime while running 20 mph and jump backwards into a man and catch a ball.

You mean like this guy?

This is Tim Patrick catching a moonball from Teddy who air mails his wide open WR (look at that separation).
Tim Patrick is 6'5 and Teddy manages to throw this ball so high that one of the tallest WRs in the league has to stop, turn and extend fully out to catch this ball so the incoming safety over the top doesn't intercept.

Patrick shows his full vertical, extends his arms out, and high points the ball knowing that the incoming safety is going to lay him out. Which he does and like a beast Patrick hangs onto the ball, gets up like it's nothing.

I can't ever remember seeing Jeudy do this.

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[Helios]

the complaint from what I am reading is he is not battling for the catches, extending such and so forth, whether they are tips or drops, his position while waiting for the ball to come to him looks to be pretty consistant.

Either way, he is under performing.

Yes, thank you. It's not complicated when you remove feelings out of it.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

You mean like this guy?

This is Tim Patrick catching a moonball from Teddy who air mails his wide open WR (look at that separation).
Tim Patrick is 6'5 and Teddy manages to throw this ball so high that one of the tallest WRs in the league has to stop, turn and extend fully out to catch this ball so the incoming safety over the top doesn't intercept.

Patrick shows his full vertical, extends his arms out, and high points the ball knowing that the incoming safety is going to lay him out. Which he does and like a beast Patrick hangs onto the ball, gets up like it's nothing.

I can't ever remember seeing Jeudy do this.

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This is horse shit Tim Patrick was not running full speed to beat a safety and corner over the top after splitting them! And that’s Patrick’s game! He’s a 50-50 ball guy. Plz believe if Patrick tried to run the routes Jeudy does creating seperation over and over for his QB he’d be tearing his ACL annually. So Jeudy doesn’t do what Patrick does, Patrick can’t do what Jeudy does. THRY ARE DIFFERENT

[Helios]

Oh look same game, same quarter and Tim Patrick is at it again (so is bridgewater).

Underthrown pass and Patrick has to stop, turn, jump and extend to catch a contested pass while using his body to shield the ball from the defender with two guys converging on him to lay the hit.

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[underrated29]

Errhmmmm.

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DT doesn't dive



That about settles it.




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[dogfish]

Ok, but when we're criticizing him because we didn't like his style on a 60 yard TD catch, we've reached a bizarre level of derangement where we aren't even being rational anymore.

I'm not going to answer for other people's arguments, but I will say this. Maybe the receivers coach should steal Jeudy's cell phone. Seems like it may be the only effective way to get him to focus.

[BroncoWave]

I'm not going to answer for other people's arguments, but I will say this. Maybe the receivers coach should steal Jeudy's cell phone. Seems like it may be the only effective way to get him to focus.

I don't disagree with that. His decision making regarding anything with his phone seems to be poor.

[Elevation inc]

Russel Wilson is getting paid almost 50 million dollars a year over this contract. So yeah, he's paid to put those throws on the money. Jeudy is making about 4 million. I think it's completely fair to levy heavier criticism on the guy making over 10 times as much money.

Also, I'm fairly certain you have no clue what Jeudy's coaches are telling him, but that's fun speculation I suppose.

Why Russ has a decade of elite play so there is some lenience there. Jeudy has done zip notta nothing to warrant anything other then criticism, like I said previously some of his targets could and should be better balls but enough with the excuses.....

[Elevation inc]

Also, no one is impressed that you played HS FB. :D Probably 90% of this board played HS ball. I don't think that gives anyone any particular insight as to what happens in an NFL locker room.

The point is that you get called out regardless of level when a pass is in your mittens and it hits the ground.....

[Elevation inc]

Oh hey I can share a still pic too!

https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/XU7SORESFBEJDGLBX4Q37DBB7M.jpg

This is one of the better catches I saw Jeudy make as a bronco. Problem is were talking one play in about 2 1/2 years....its not good enough.....this is an outlier not how he consistently performs.....More of this would equal far less criticism. In the end he has 14 games to make some plays for this team. Otherwise after 3 years he is a busted first rd. pick. He was already behind Patrick anyway so next year he will be lucky to be the WR 3 or 4 on this team at his current rate. Some of us get elite WR play and some live off off-season hype. Jeudy is like a Ashley Lelie all over again IMO off-season hype reg season bust.....

[Northman]

I dont care for Jerry all that much but the hate is kind of ridiculous too. He needs to do better but he is still young as well. As you all keep telling me, relax bra.

[Elevation inc]

I dont care for Jerry all that much but the hate is kind of ridiculous too. He needs to do better but he is still young as well. As you all keep telling me, relax bra.

Nope dude is weak sauce.....reality hurts.....Jeudy = Ashley Lelie 2.0 :lol:

[BroncoWave]

Why Russ has a decade of elite play so there is some lenience there. Jeudy has done zip notta nothing to warrant anything other then criticism, like I said previously some of his targets could and should be better balls but enough with the excuses.....

Russ doesn't have a decade of elite play here. He has a clean slate here and signed a massive contract. He does get some benefit of the doubt because of his history, but that won't last forever.

[Northman]

Nope dude is weak sauce.....reality hurts.....Jeudy = Ashley Lelie 2.0 :lol:

Rawr

[Northman]

Elevation all caught up in his feels for Jeudy. Lol

[Northman]

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[Northman]

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[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If Wilson and the offense has to ride the defense to a championship because it’s going to take a year like it did Aaron rodgers in the same offense before he started putting up huge MVP numbers then so be it!!!!

I’m tired of broncos fans and this spoiled horse shit mentality of give me all now or else I’m going to whine and bitch and turn on the team !!! Sick of it! It’s disgusting in year one WEEK 3 and us real loyal fans gotta deal with this shit already and we are 2-1 and haven’t even peaked on offense yet.

[BroncoWave]

If Wilson and the offense has to ride the defense to a championship because it’s going to take a year like it did Aaron rodgers in the same offense before he started putting up huge MVP numbers then so be it!!!!

I’m tired of broncos fans and this spoiled horse shit mentality of give me all now or else I’m going to whine and bitch and turn on the team !!! Sick of it! It’s disgusting in year one WEEK 3 and us real loyal fans gotta deal with this shit already and we are 2-1 and haven’t even peaked on offense yet.

"Us real loyal fans" :lol:

Should we pull up your posts from last year where super loyal Broncos fan JH10 was shitting all over the coaches and QB when the team was 3-0? Get out of here with this shit that if you aren't shitting rainbows you aren't loyal. If that's the threshold, you weren't a loyal fan last year.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Yeah that’s obviously horse shit for the simple fact I was not bashing anybody once the season started. Made a whole thread telling everyone enough is enough! So yeah keep on spewing out horse shit that’s lie’s.

[Krugan]

If Wilson and the offense has to ride the defense to a championship because itÂ’s going to take a year like it did Aaron rodgers in the same offense before he started putting up huge MVP numbers then so be it!!!!

IÂ’m tired of broncos fans and this spoiled horse shit mentality of give me all now or else IÂ’m going to whine and bitch and turn on the team !!! Sick of it! ItÂ’s disgusting in year one WEEK 3 and us real loyal fans gotta deal with this shit already and we are 2-1 and havenÂ’t even peaked on offense yet.

You have a metric assload of options to help you deal with differing opinions. Im not going to list them here, if you dont know, reading it wont help.

This is a message board, it is designed for people to discuss, debate, vent, speak their opinions. It is not for you to decide how or what those are. Your fan card says super fan, never waiver.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

You have a metric assload of options to help you deal with differing opinions. Im not going to list them here, if you dont know, reading it wont help.

This is a message board, it is designed for people to discuss, debate, vent, speak their opinions. It is not for you to decide how or what those are. Your fan card says super fan, never waiver.

We’ll duh it ain’t for me to decide what fair weather fans do because if I had it my way fair weather fans would feel some shame bashing there 2-1 team. It’s a joke and I really don’t care for it. It is what it is.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Damn are you even Fair weather fan when the teams 2-1? Fair weather fans usually only care about wins, this new weird type a fan is just……… weird.

Support the team or move around, can’t even watch a game with some of you because it’s like a child throwing tantrum after tantrum.

Sad

[Krugan]

We’ll duh it ain’t for me to decide what fair weather fans do because if I had it my way fair weather fans would feel some shame bashing there 2-1 team. It’s a joke and I really don’t care for it. It is what it is.

Pretty sure its obvious you do not "care for it".

You sure like to think you are on some high horse though.

I do not have the time or patience to argue with you, much less deal with it after you get your feelers hurt. I do not care for people who generally rebuke other peoples fandom. You might be one of the most inept fan policepersons ever built, wear that shit with pride ponyboy...

As to your next post "Damn are you even Fair weather fan when the teams 2-1? Fair weather fans usually only care about wins, this new weird type a fan is just……… weird.

Support the team or move around, can’t even watch a game with some of you because it’s like a child throwing tantrum after tantrum.

Sad"

Wanting your team to perform better than it is, is not "fair weather". Try harder. You do know about throwing a tantrum though...

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Pretty sure its obvious you do not "care for it".

You sure like to think you are on some high horse though.

I do not have the time or patience to argue with you, much less deal with it after you get your feelers hurt. I do not care for people who generally rebuke other peoples fandom. You might be one of the most inept fan policepersons ever built, wear that shit with pride ponyboy...

As to your next post "Damn are you even Fair weather fan when the teams 2-1? Fair weather fans usually only care about wins, this new weird type a fan is just……… weird.

Support the team or move around, can’t even watch a game with some of you because it’s like a child throwing tantrum after tantrum.

Sad"

Wanting your team to perform better than it is, is not "fair weather". Try harder. You do know about throwing a tantrum though...

You got something against horses that sit up high?

[Krugan]

You got something against horses that sit up high?

Yes, i think they could improve upon who they allow to straddle them. The current rider is not performing well enough. Should trade him for a less likely to make bold stupid predictions type.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Wanting your team to perform better is not the same as being delusional about it. If it took Aaron rodgers a year before he started putting up massive numbers in the offense then how the hell the broncos gone do it in week 3??? What you thought just because it’s the broncos the shit don’t take time??

I’m not even being funny that’s the difference between a knowledgeable fan and a regular fan. The ONLY reason I even think the system is going to ignite to its fullest potential this year is because of the talent on offense.

Again how do you REALISTICALLY expect the offense to be firing on all cylinders in week 1-3??? When it took Rodgers and that offense year?

It don’t make sense.

[Krugan]

Wanting your team to perform better is not the same as being delusional about it. If it took Aaron rodgers a year before he started putting up massive numbers in the offense then how the hell the broncos gone do it in week 3??? What you thought just because it’s the broncos the shit don’t take time??

I’m not even being funny that’s the difference between a knowledgeable fan and a regular fan. The ONLY reason I even think the system is going to ignite to its fullest potential this year is because of the talent on offense.

Again how do you REALISTICALLY expect the offense to be firing on all cylinders in week 1-3??? When it took Rodgers and that offense year?

It don’t make sense.

I am truly sorry super fan.

I will work on my rainbow spewing, I am merely a slug to be ground underneath your superior fan slipper. My magic wand of joy and happiness is tainted with expectations and historical accuracies that we have all lived through and are certainly causing the black cloud to hoover over our former glittery halos. (or aholes)


I will work harder sire, I do not wish to draw the ire of superfan King of PROPER fan-ing.

[Helios]

I am truly sorry super fan.

I will work on my rainbow spewing, I am merely a slug to be ground underneath your superior fan slipper. My magic wand of joy and happiness is tainted with expectations and historical accuracies that we have all lived through and are certainly causing the black cloud to hoover over our former glittery halos. (or aholes)


I will work harder sire, I do not wish to draw the ire of superfan King of PROPER fan-ing.

I know what you're saying, my magical wand of joy and happiness feels tainted too after years of watching inept clown shows pretending to be this team's offense.

[Northman]

Been a Bronco fan for over 35 years and aint going anywhere so Jham you are just going to have suck it up buttercup because i will bitch, whine, celebrate, and jizz over my Broncos whenever i want to. Deal. Lol

[Northman]

King and I did a thing. Only available on YT though but Wave you got mentioned just so you know. Lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmLPcj_7tlU&t=332s

[Elevation inc]

Elevation all caught up in his feels for Jeudy. Lol

Not really dude wont be in Denver much longer......He gonna go hang out with Ashley lelie and talk about what could have been.....

[underrated29]

Not really dude wont be in Denver much longer......He gonna go hang out with Ashley lelie and talk about what could have been.....

Strongly disagree.

[Northman]

Not really dude wont be in Denver much longer......He gonna go hang out with Ashley lelie and talk about what could have been.....

Dont worry, King and I laughed at your manhate of Jeudy in our video too. Lol

[Davii]

Dont worry, King and I laughed at your manhate of Jeudy in our video too. Lol

Tell Kinger I heart him next podcast.

[Northman]

Tell Kinger I heart him next podcast.

If you want to join us next round we would be glad to have you. That is kind of my plan with this thing is to try and get other Bronco fans to join the discussion here and there.

[Davii]

If you want to join us next round we would be glad to have you. That is kind of my plan with this thing is to try and get other Bronco fans to join the discussion here and there.

Sure, I'm much more boring when I speak rather than type though.

[Northman]

Sure, I'm much more boring when I speak rather than type though.

Lol, i feel the pain.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Tell Kinger I heart him next podcast.

What podcast?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If you want to join us next round we would be glad to have you. That is kind of my plan with this thing is to try and get other Bronco fans to join the discussion here and there.

What podcast do you guys have???

[Northman]

What podcast do you guys have???

I have my my main podcast for my website and radio station. But i just started a new segment on our Youtube channel talking sports with Kinger which we will do once a month.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_nESntFriHi83fGeHRlGLA


The radio stuff/podcast is here: https://metaltavernradio.com/

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I have my my main podcast for my website and radio station. But i just started a new segment on our Youtube channel talking sports with Kinger which we will do once a month.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_nESntFriHi83fGeHRlGLA


The radio stuff/podcast is here: https://metaltavernradio.com/



Holy shit that’s great. What do we just sign up and then participate?

[Northman]

Holy shit that’s great. What do we just sign up and then participate?

Its more of i just invite whoever i want at that time.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Its more of i just invite whoever i want at that time.

Why would you have a podcast where you can only just invite people? Wouldn’t it be best to just let folks storm the door? So you can get spontaneous participation?

[Northman]

Why would you have a podcast where you can only just invite people? Wouldn’t it be best to just let folks storm the door? So you can get spontaneous participation?

Lol, no that would not be best. No smart podcaster/youtuber just allows people to storm the door. What i want (as King as well) is smart, logical, and civil discussions when we have guests on our show. I can technically have as many people on there as i want but i will be selective with whom i put on there. I wont even have a problem putting people that disagree with me on there so as long as they are respectful. But i also have Bronco and sports fans outside of the forum who will want to participate down the road so that is another reason why i have to kind of pick and choose with whom i add to our discussions.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Lol true true

So if I join I have to wait for you to allow me in every podcast?

[Northman]

Lol true true

So if I join I have to wait for you to allow me in every podcast?

Yea, we are only doing these once a month but i may end up inviting 1-2 people each time. If you happen to be one of them i will let you know when.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Yea, we are only doing these once a month but i may end up inviting 1-2 people each time. If you happen to be one of them i will let you know when.

Lol a podcast with 3-4 people bro? Really? I think you need to put somebody in charge of promoting the podcast so it can really grow man. Having 3-; people in a podcast is going to be pretty boring man. Your right just not letting people storm the door but however with the right moderators it would be alright because they would just ban the people who are acting a fool..

[BroncoWave]

Lol a podcast with 3-4 people bro? Really? I think you need to put somebody in charge of promoting the podcast so it can really grow man. Having 3-; people in a podcast is going to be pretty boring man. Your right just not letting people storm the door but however with the right moderators it would be alright because they would just ban the people who are acting a fool..

You're just an expert on everything aren't you?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

You're just an expert on everything aren't you?

Not really but I’d like to see the podcast grow. And I know a thing or two about this yes.

[Northman]

Lol a podcast with 3-4 people bro? Really? I think you need to put somebody in charge of promoting the podcast so it can really grow man. Having 3-; people in a podcast is going to be pretty boring man. Your right just not letting people storm the door but however with the right moderators it would be alright because they would just ban the people who are acting a fool..

Actually, i think you are confusing some things so let me try and clear that up for ya.

1) The show that we do is pre-recorded, it does not air live so the need for a chat is irrelevant here. However, the comment section is open to anyone when the video is posted. So as long as whoever comments doesnt do something to get banned they can say whatever they wish.

2) When i say im going to have guests it means on the video itself, so it will be me, King, and whoever i choose to come on the show with us to discuss the topics at hand.


If you want to comment on the videos after they have been posted you are free to do so.

[Krugan]

This thread is now a debate on how to properly podcast. The game was really that bad....

[underrated29]

Not really but I’d like to see the podcast grow. And I know a thing or two about this yes.

Theyre not really trying to monetize and grow. Theyre just having fun doing something they like. It will go at its own pace and be fine.

Just curious what your experience is with them?


I know a few people on this site are quite experienced. Wave for example has a degree in Marketing. North has all the resources he could ever want.

[dogfish]

North has all the resources he could ever want.

like being a sexy ba$tard. . .

[BroncoJoe]

I'd love to be on the show at some point just so I can tell you and King what idiots you both are!!!

J/K I love you both.

[underrated29]

like being a sexy ba$tard. . .

Hes got a.doctorate in that dept.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Actually, i think you are confusing some things so let me try and clear that up for ya.

1) The show that we do is pre-recorded, it does not air live so the need for a chat is irrelevant here. However, the comment section is open to anyone when the video is posted. So as long as whoever comments doesnt do something to get banned they can say whatever they wish.

2) When i say im going to have guests it means on the video itself, so it will be me, King, and whoever i choose to come on the show with us to discuss the topics at hand.


If you want to comment on the videos after they have been posted you are free to do so.


Hmmm i see what’s going on now.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I'd love to be on the show at some point just so I can tell you and King what idiots you both are!!!

J/K I love you both.

Word

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Theyre not really trying to monetize and grow. Theyre just having fun doing something they like. It will go at its own pace and be fine.

Just curious what your experience is with them?


I know a few people on this site are quite experienced. Wave for example has a degree in Marketing. North has all the resources he could ever want.

I have about 2 weeks worth of experience.

[Elevation inc]

Dont worry, King and I laughed at your manhate of Jeudy in our video too. Lol

Cool....Hopefully you do a podcast about how I was right down the road; you all will come around soon enough. Maybe he gets it this year but so far, the actual results (not hype) haven't showed he is anything other than a 1st rd. pick who makes a couple plays a year if we're lucky.... Those are straight facts.