Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs Bills 08/20/22

[sneakers]

Anyone have any earthly idea why this game starts at noon eastern time? Seems quite unreasonable.
Will anyone of note play today?
Go Broncos


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[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Anyone have any earthly idea why this game starts at noon eastern time? Seems quite unreasonable.
Will anyone of note play today?
Go Broncos


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Yeah that is what 10am in Denver? super early game even for me at noon!

However I’ll be watching regardless:) can’t wait I kind of missed the game last week.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Game is on at 11:00 am in Denver, and 1:00 in Buffalo.


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[Eddiemac87]

Here’s what to watch for when the Broncos hit the field…

Joe Schobert
After the Broncos lost Jonas Griffith to a dislocated elbow in Week 1, the team brought in 28-year-old linebacker Joe Schobert to compete for the open job.

Schobert’s ceiling with the Broncos is high—he was a Pro Bowler back in 2017 and he’s strung together five consecutive 100-tackle seasons—but there’s no guarantee he’ll even be the next man up after Griffith. Alex Singleton and Justin Strnad should both compete for that role.

Saturday will be the first time we see Schobert in a Broncos’ uniform. If he breaks out, the Broncos could have another key contributor on defense.

Calvin Anderson
The 26-year-old has played the bulk of the starting reps at right tackle this offseason but the odds of him earning the starting job are getting slimmer by the day.

Veteran Billy Turner is off the PUP list and working his way back to full-speed. He’s the favorite to play right tackle. While Turner has missed back-to-back practices as he gets additional treatment on his knee, his eventual return will mark the start of the camp competition.

Anderson’s health has given him a head start fo the job but he hasn’t capitalized on it so far. He needs a strong performance against the Bills—and potentially against Von Miller—to build a lead before Turner takes the field.

Michael Ojemudia
The third-year cornerback was one of the stars of OTAs but he didn’t live up to the hype during camp. He broke up a pass early in the game against the Cowboys last week but then gave up solid gains on a pair of posts and quickly nullified his strong start.

Meanwhile, rookie Damarri Mathis improved consistently throughout camp and played a solid game against the Cowboys. Keep an eye on him, too.

Mathis or Ojemudia will be the Broncos’ fourth cornerback heading into the season. Ojemudia’s lead is shrinking.

The pass rush
The Broncos’ top rushers probably won’t play in the preseason, but one of the strengths of the Denver defense its pass-rushing depth. That depth will be put to the test on Saturday.

Nik Bonitto, Baron Browning and the rest of the crew will be taking on the Bills’ starting line, which will be a challenge. If those guys are what we think they are, then they should be able to manufacture a few pressures.

If any of those guys can get a sack, the hype train will leave the station

Three receivers
Most of the Broncos’ wide receiver roster is filled out. Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, KJ Hamler, Montrell Washington and Kendall Hinton have probably carved out roster spots. That probably leaves one still up for grabs.

Brandon Johnson, Jalen Virgil and Seth Williams all made plays in the first preseason game and they seem to be the favorites for the final job. All three will get plenty of run in each of the final two games.

The wildcard is third-year wide receiver Tyrie Cleveland. He’s one of the team’s top special teams players but that may not be enough to earn him the final spot. He’s been sidelined with a fractured throat since the first week of camp.

The running game
The Broncos got next-to-nothing from their running game last week. The team combined for 39 yards on 22 carries. The longest run was six yards.

In a performance like that, everybody is to blame. We’ll start with the offensive line, though, which rarely gave the backs a chance. When Mike Boone carried the ball three times, he was hit behind the line twice.

Denver will probably keep three running backs on its final roster (Javonte Williams, Melvin Gordon and Boone) but maybe a big day from one of the others can change that. I doubt it.

A solid rushing performance against the Bills’ starters would be a great sign.

Caden Sterns
The Broncos’ second-year safety was a stud in the first preseason game and nobody was surprised.

Sterns isn’t competing for a starting job. He definitely isn’t competing for a roster spot. He’s probably locked into the dime role and will be the first safety off the bench if needed.

But he’s a lot of fun to watch and you could make the case he’ll be the best player the Broncos put on the field on Saturday. If he can make a couple of plays against Josh Allen and the starting Bills offense, there will be plenty of reason to be excited.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Damn I had forgot we signed singleton who just had 100 plus tackles last year as well and strnad whose flashed but another guy who gets hurt and set back.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Yo EddieMac!

You really think stern’s going to be the most impressive over PJ Locke???

[Eddiemac87]

Yo EddieMac!

You really think stern’s going to be the most impressive over PJ Locke???

I should have put a header on that… cut and paste article… but I do think sterns is going to be good.. yes probably better than PJ

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

True true PJ been balling though dominating

[Nomad]

I may tune in for the first quarter. NFLN shows the game at 1000 here.

[Tned]

I may tune in for the first quarter. NFLN shows the game at 1000 here.

Will be interesting to see our 2/3's play against their 1/2's. Beyond that, since the Broncos aren't playing starters, it will be interesting to see how some of the guys fighting for jobs do, but it's not going to be a clean, entertaining game.

[Nomad]

Will be interesting to see our 2/3's play against their 1/2's. Beyond that, since the Broncos aren't playing starters, it will be interesting to see how some of the guys fighting for jobs do, but it's not going to be a clean, entertaining game.

I concur. I have lots of yard work to do today. I’ve been working a lot of OT this summer and wasn’t expecting this game to be so early.

[Northman]

Lets go Scrubby Doos!

[Davii]

Go Broncos! Hopefully the backups play pretty well

[Davii]

Good throw in traffic, too bad he sailed that first down throw

[Eddiemac87]

Wow Washington impresses me…

[Northman]

Good play from Boone.

[Eddiemac87]

Vinovich. Practicing his shit calls so he’s on it for the regular season..

[AgentOrange]

Boone looks hungry

[Northman]

Another great move by Boone.

[Northman]

So far the offense looks good, i wonder how many defenders are starters for the Bills.

[Davii]

Boone looks hungry

Yes but also poor tackling helping him out

[Eddiemac87]

So far the offense looks good, i wonder how many defenders are starters for the Bills.

Apparently most of the starters are in… so this is good!

[Davii]

So far the offense looks good, i wonder how many defenders are starters for the Bills.

Only one not in the field is Von

[Northman]

Whatever happens with this drive its good motivation for them.

[AgentOrange]

Our 2s look well coached. This gives me much heart.

[Eddiemac87]

I’m not so down on Johnson today… he settles in after a rough start last week.

[Northman]

Our 2s look well coached. This gives me much heart.

Yea, they look more polished as compared to the start of last week.

[Davii]

Jersey yank on Hinton right when the ball arrives but oh well. Good drive for our backups vs their starters

[Northman]

Great catch by Hinton, just couldnt stay in.

[Northman]

Solid drive.

[Eddiemac87]

I’ll take that drive against a starting D as good as the bills is! Good play calls, good execution..

[Davii]

Yea, they look more polished as compared to the start of last week.

And they look way better coached than under Vic at any point in time.

[AgentOrange]

Yes but also poor tackling helping him out

True, but he stayed on his feet for the 1st then made a good catch. Worth watching him to see if this is consistent.

[Eddiemac87]

Now the D……

[Northman]

And they look way better coached than under Vic at any point in time.

By MILES

[Eddiemac87]

I like to see McKenzie succeed….but he was ours…. Dam…

[AgentOrange]

No surprise the Bills O looks this good. Let's see if the 2s D can adjust next time they're on the field.

[Eddiemac87]

Ugly…their starters are GOOD! That oline dominates

[Davii]

Second team D not looking at all good, we shall see once they pull their starters

[Northman]

Wow, bad breakdown on defense there. Way too much time.

[AgentOrange]

Washington! Great run back!

[Northman]

Yea, got to hope our season wont rely on Johnson because he folds pretty quickly under pressure.

[Nomad]

So, all other teams play their starting QB except the Broncos. Not saying Hackett’s philosophy is wrong, but no reps for Wilson?

[Davii]

Johnson was bad on that series

[Davii]

So, all other teams play their starting QB except the Broncos. Not saying Hackett’s philosophy is wrong, but no reps for Wilson?

Nope. We shall see. I don’t know if I like it or not, my opinion is they should play at least a series, but I’m certainly not against fresh thought. We shall see if it works out!

[Davii]

Bills D was really playing downhill that series and getting into the backfield pretty easily. We still need to upgrade our OL depth

[Nomad]

Nope. We shall see. I don’t know if I like it or not, my opinion is they should play at least a series, but I’m certainly not against fresh thought. We shall see if it works out!

So, we’re expecting these guys to make the team with a below to average QB the whole game?

[Northman]

Nope. We shall see. I don’t know if I like it or not, my opinion is they should play at least a series, but I’m certainly not against fresh thought. We shall see if it works out!

Agreed.

New system, new players, probably need at least a couple of series even if its in the last preseason game just to get use to the flow with the players. Would be kind of embarrassing to go into Seattle and lose to either Geno or Drew because nobody is in sync with each other.

[Northman]

Bills D was really playing downhill that series and getting into the backfield pretty easily. We still need to upgrade our OL depth

Its probably why Denver wont the SB this year, still probably a couple of years away as we build some depth on both sides of the ball.

[Nomad]

Agreed.

New system, new players, probably need at least a couple of series even if its in the last preseason game just to get use to the flow with the players. Would be kind of embarrassing to go into Seattle and lose to either Geno or Drew because nobody is in sync with each other.


Even more reason Wilson should play. I get the needless preseason injury aspect, but it’s not making sense Wilson doesn’t play as least a quarter a game.

[Davii]

So, we’re expecting these guys to make the team with a below to average QB the whole game?

Expecting the ones that should make the team to make their case regardless. Those who have solidified their roster spot are on the bench, if you should be among them you need to prove it.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Just waking up. Looks like Allen moved the ball easily on our back ups? Lol

Now I’m locked in though. Let’s see if the back ups can get a stop and hold them to 3, looks like sterns out there missing tackles from what I just seen.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

So, we’re expecting these guys to make the team with a below to average QB the whole game?

Your expecting Wilson to be out there playing with the backup’s trying to make the team??? Lol those guys have to make due with what they have and it’s all pretty fair and even because there going against the other teams back ups trying to make the team.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

So, all other teams play their starting QB except the Broncos. Not saying Hackett’s philosophy is wrong, but no reps for Wilson?

Hell probably get a series in game 3 but even if he doesn’t idc. I could careless about the pre season for starters.

[Northman]

Nice patience by Keenum there.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Malik Reed is down. Yeah, I’m absolutely fine with no starters seeing the field until the scores count. Our starters don’t have to prove shit to anyone but the coaches about their readiness to play. Russell Wilson knows how to play football. He doesn’t need to risk injury in the preseason to prove it to the fans.

[Northman]

Need to improve our backup defenders, we are god awful there.

[Northman]

Russell Wilson knows how to play football.

All players in the NFL know how to play football dipshit. lol

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Malik Reed is down. Yeah, I’m absolutely fine with no starters seeing the field until the scores count. Our starters don’t have to prove shit to anyone but the coaches about their readiness to play. Russell Wilson knows how to play football. He doesn’t need to risk injury in the preseason to prove it to the fans.

Yup it’s pointless to even bother playing starters, if the second team wasn’t in battles with the 3rd team I wouldn’t want them playing either! Broncos have already lost one starter at MLB in Jonas and now a back up edge rusher in Reid. You can tell some of these guys today on defense are trying not to get hurt. Nobody’s going full throttle it seems.

[Nomad]

Malik Reed is down. Yeah, I’m absolutely fine with no starters seeing the field until the scores count. Our starters don’t have to prove shit to anyone but the coaches about their readiness to play. Russell Wilson knows how to play football. He doesn’t need to risk injury in the preseason to prove it to the fans.

It’s not about Wilson and more of the backups playing with him. We’ve seen all too many times where backups can’t keep up with starters plus a guy like Wilson will bring the best out of them.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Need to improve our backup defenders, we are god awful there.

Not really it just hits different watching an entire unit of second team. When you blend in the guys who will be depth with the actual starters is when you start to see how the real depth looks.

[Northman]

It’s not about Wilson and more of the backups playing with him. We’ve seen all too many times where backups can’t keep up with starters plus a guy like Wilson will bring the best out of them.

Except the disadvantage there is the backups on the line protecting Wilson. I dont want Wilson in there unless the rest of the starters are, playing with a poor line would most certainly get Wilson hurt.

[Northman]

Great pass by Johnson, missed opportunity

[Northman]

Sheesh, bad tackling.

[Nomad]

I hope the Broncos starting defense doesn’t have any injuries:shocked:

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Man they are attacking mike ojamudia and sterns side in the passing game and run game like shit the whole game so far

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Ojemudia is now hurt. Not surprising because he looked like he was half-assing it out there. His coverage and tackling has been atrocious today. He just doesn’t look like he wants to be here. I hope he’s not seriously injured, but he doesn’t look like a guy who should make the team.

[Nomad]

Keenum is an awesome preseason QB. Just saying. :D

[Northman]

Keenum is an awesome preseason QB. Just saying. :D

He would certainly be a better backup than Johnson but that ship sailed long ago.

[Nomad]

He would certainly be a better backup than Johnson but that ship sailed long ago.

I’ve always liked Keenum. He was a great QB for the Houston Cougars. Fun to watch. He played well for the Broncos

[HORSEPOWER 56]

The Broncos’ backups look really flat today. Nobody seems to want to play hard or play fast. Everyone looks like they’re playing flat footed and chasing everything from behind instead of attacking. It’s kinda disheartening after their good performance last week.

[Northman]

Maybe Rypien comes out and looks a better than last week.

[Northman]

I’ve always liked Keenum. He was a great QB for the Houston Cougars. Fun to watch. He played well for the Broncos

I had not problem with him but i knew he wasnt starting material either. He's the kind of guy you want as a backup when necessary and that seems to be when he plays his best.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

That was a great punt! Unfortunately, our STs don’t know how to cover those so it was a touchback.

[Northman]

Every time Dotson's name comes up i want to do this,

https://c.tenor.com/Fz7wOGr8XL8AAAAC/dodson-scientist.gif

[Nomad]

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[Magnificent Seven]

Disappointed. That game is unacceptable. Back up teams (Offense and Defense) are not good enough.

[Northman]

Disappointed. That game is unacceptable. Back up teams (Offense and Defense) are not good enough.

Eh, im not going to make too much out of it but we do need some better depth if we plan to compete for a championship. Probably might be a year or two before we are really ready.

[Nomad]

Eh, im not going to make too much out of it but we do need some better depth if we plan to compete for a championship. Probably might be a year or two before we are really ready.

Question is…are Bronco fans patient enough especially after the last 5 or 6 yrs? I have high expectations with Wilson and Hackett at the helm. Not necessarily the SB, but the playoffs.

[Northman]

Question is…are Bronco fans patient enough especially after the last 5 or 6 yrs? I have high expectations with Wilson and Hackett at the helm. Not necessarily the SB, but the playoffs.

I think we are good enough to make the playoffs this year (injuries aside). I just dont think we have the depth to win it all and i dont think Bronco fans will be all that worried. We werent worried when Manning first signed in Denver so because we actually have a QB i fans will be fine. The only way fans get disgruntled is if Wilson has an issue we are not aware of and doesnt play well.

[Northman]

Our backups make Keenum look like Montana out there.

[Nomad]

I think we are good enough to make the playoffs this year (injuries aside). I just dont think we have the depth to win it all and i dont think Bronco fans will be all that worried. We werent worried when Manning first signed in Denver so because we actually have a QB i fans will be fine. The only way fans get disgruntled is if Wilson has an issue we are not aware of and doesnt play well.

I’m hoping Wilson is rejuvenated coming to Denver. I’m looking forward to the game in Seattle even though I’ll be in my hometown of Jennings, La watching the game. :ohwell: I have personal business with my parents.

[Nomad]

Time to go do yard work. Geaux Broncos!

[Northman]

I was still kind of hoping to be competitive but... lol

[Eddiemac87]

Watching this delayed….. terrible week for the broncos…. Other than Washington…who got very little chances, and the returners doing ok. No one really stood out…

[Magnificent Seven]

Fire HC Hackett! :D

[Eddiemac87]

Fire HC Hackett! :D

Fire that guy! Bring back Vance Joseph ! He has better practices !

[Magnificent Seven]

Fire that guy! Bring back Vance Joseph ! He has better practices !

Lol.

[Northman]

Great play by Rypien there on the run.

[sneakers]

Broncos spent all this money on a qb,when they already have Rypien on their team....

[Davii]

Bad in all phases and areas today. Lot of work left to do.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

After seeing what our backups can do, I’m glad we’re not playing our starters.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Got damn our back ups got smoked today lol

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Only bronco fans can be disappointed in the score of a pre season game lol. Like seriously guys??

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Is it fair to say that the Broncos were always one level back of Buffalo's players on the field - Game starts with their starters playing, versus our #1 backup players. Then our #2 backup players played against their #1 backup players, etc., etc.

[R8R H8R]

Is it fair to say that the Broncos were always one level back of Buffalo's players on the field - Game starts with their starters playing, versus our #1 backup players. Then our #2 backup players played against their #1 backup players, etc., etc.

Could be. Also, just like we always seem to match up well with the cowboys, it seems like we just don’t match up with the Bills. Does anyone remember the last time we played the bills? It was regular season in 2020, and the score was 48-19.


The only thing I got out of today is that our run defense on all levels is a real concern. I think our run offense will be better with the starters, but if DJ Jones or other starter on interior line is not playing, I think it’s legit to have serious concerns.

[R8R H8R]

Before anyone is freaking out and already predicting 4 or 5 wins(some are), why don’t we see how they respond to the Vikings next week. This is the perfect type of game to get a wake up call. Let’s see how they respond before we throw the team under the bus.

The good news is we don’t play the Bills again this year unless it is a playoff game. And if we play the bills in a playoff game, regardless of outcome, it should be regarded as a successful year considering the depths we’ve been in the last 6 yrs.

[Nomad]

After seeing what our backups can do, I’m glad we’re not playing our starters.

Curious as to why? Bills played theirs. This would have been the best game to play our starters because Bills are a playoff team and Broncos starters could see what to work on. I don’t agree with Hackett’s strategy of sitting all starters in preseason because of chance of injury. Seeing Seattle’s preseason, it should be an easy win for the Broncos.

[R8R H8R]

Curious as to why? Bills played theirs. This would have been the best game to play our starters because Bills are a playoff team and Broncos starters could see what to work on. I don’t agree with Hackett’s strategy of sitting all starters in preseason because of chance of injury. Seeing Seattle’s preseason, it should be an easy win for the Broncos.

I see both sides of this argument. I don’t disagree with your take, but at the same time, I can see the value of sitting the starters. Am I sitting on the fence? Sure, but the thing is we don’t have any info yet about how this plays out in the regular season.

The good news is that I think we start out 2-0, but then the real test is SF in week 3. It doesn’t matter who their QB is, if we can’t stop the run against them we will lose. Period.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis@mikeklis·20m

Through 2 preseason games:
Johnson: 24-39, 242, 2 TD-0 INT, 96.3
Rypien: 30-44, 304, 1 TD-0 INT, 95.3#9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
OL Casey Tucker had dislocated big right toe. “It was like a unicorn sticking straight up,” he said. Popped back in. Doesn’t think surgery is needed. #9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
Hackett said Michael Ojemudia has dislocated elbow. He is wearing a brace and sling on right arm. “I’m good,” he said. #9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
Malik Reed said he got poked in the eye and he’s fine. #9sports

[Denver Native (Carol)]

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Ahead of Denver's preseason matchup with the Bills, the Broncos knew they would face a challenge.

The Bills planned to play their starters, while the Broncos were set to keep their star players out of harm's way.

"That's the best evaluation you can possibly get," Head Coach Nathaniel Hackett said Thursday. "We want to see who can come out there and play vs. the best in the league. It's an unbelievable opportunity for those guys to step up and show what they can do."

The reality wasn't nearly as pleasant, as the Broncos fell behind early and eventually lost a 42-15 decision.

The Bills scored touchdowns on each of their first six possessions as they exerted control and raced out to a 42-9 lead.

"Obviously, the defense didn't play good enough," Hackett said after the loss. "The offense didn't play good enough, especially in the beginning. That's why we do this. We get to evaluate a lot of guys vs. a really good Bills football team."

rest - https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/broncos-backups-can-t-keep-pace-with-bills-starters-fall-42-15

[Davii]

Mike Klis@mikeklis·20m

Through 2 preseason games:
Johnson: 24-39, 242, 2 TD-0 INT, 96.3
Rypien: 30-44, 304, 1 TD-0 INT, 95.3#9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
OL Casey Tucker had dislocated big right toe. “It was like a unicorn sticking straight up,” he said. Popped back in. Doesn’t think surgery is needed. #9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
Hackett said Michael Ojemudia has dislocated elbow. He is wearing a brace and sling on right arm. “I’m good,” he said. #9sports

Mike Klis@mikeklis·1h
Malik Reed said he got poked in the eye and he’s fine. #9sports

Glad none of them are serious. Very disappointed in the overall effort today, we’ll get to see how Hackett treats a poor showing though

[R8R H8R]

Glad none of them are serious. Very disappointed in the overall effort today, we’ll get to see how Hackett treats a poor showing though

Yes, let’s see how they respond against the Vikings. Shouldn’t matter if the Vikes play starters or not, this team should have a much better outing. If they don’t, then I’ll have some real concern.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Curious as to why? Bills played theirs. This would have been the best game to play our starters because Bills are a playoff team and Broncos starters could see what to work on. I don’t agree with Hackett’s strategy of sitting all starters in preseason because of chance of injury. Seeing Seattle’s preseason, it should be an easy win for the Broncos.

Because if ours got hurt, the season is essentially over. Our backup QBs aren’t very good, our backup ILBs and DL are terrible vs the run and our backup corners can’t cover a bed with a blanket. Risking injury to our starters is a terrible idea!!!

If it sounds like I’m overreacting maybe I am, but with our terrible luck with injuries the last few years minimizing the shots on goal for injury, especially in meaningless games, is exactly what I would do. The preseason is to flesh out your roster and test out your depth. Not to risk your starters. What would it have meant if we’d played the starters for one series and they’d scored a TD? What if they’d gone 3 and out? Either way it would’ve have meant shit to anybody but the fanbase so they could overreact one way or the other. The only team I care about watching the Broncos play is Seattle in week one. We need to get our starters to at least that point. We can’t afford more Tim Patrick type injuries.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Before anyone is freaking out and already predicting 4 or 5 wins(some are), why don’t we see how they respond to the Vikings next week. This is the perfect type of game to get a wake up call. Let’s see how they respond before we throw the team under the bus.

The good news is we don’t play the Bills again this year unless it is a playoff game. And if we play the bills in a playoff game, regardless of outcome, it should be regarded as a successful year considering the depths we’ve been in the last 6 yrs.

Lol a pre season game where no starters play against there starters is a wake up call???? Man oh man….. I hope the bench gets destroyed next week as well so ppl can jump off the band wagon.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Question is…are Bronco fans patient enough especially after the last 5 or 6 yrs? I have high expectations with Wilson and Hackett at the helm. Not necessarily the SB, but the playoffs.

Lol

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Mike Klis@mikeklis·20m

Through 2 preseason games:
Johnson: 24-39, 242, 2 TD-0 INT, 96.3
Rypien: 30-44, 304, 1 TD-0 INT, 95.3#9sports


Those numbers for Rypien are completely misleading. The dude threw 3 INTs right to the Cowboys’ defenders. Had they not dropped them, the numbers would be a lot different.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Yes, let’s see how they respond against the Vikings. Shouldn’t matter if the Vikes play starters or not, this team should have a much better outing. If they don’t, then I’ll have some real concern.

If you start feeling some concern over pre season showing from the 3rd string back ups then I’m going to be concerned

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Those numbers for Rypien are completely misleading. The dude threw 3 INTs right to the Cowboys’ defenders. Had they not dropped them, the numbers would be a lot different.

Everyone knows rypien can’t play man. Dudes a great practice player though and amazing in the QB room. he’ll be a coach at some point not a quality back up.

[Nomad]

Because if ours got hurt, the season is essentially over. Our backup QBs aren’t very good, our backup ILBs and DL are terrible vs the run and our backup corners can’t cover a bed with a blanket. Risking injury to our starters is a terrible idea!!!

If it sounds like I’m overreacting maybe I am, but with our terrible luck with injuries the last few years minimizing the shots on goal for injury, especially in meaningless games, is exactly what I would do. The preseason is to flesh out your roster and test out your depth. Not to risk your starters. What would it have meant if we’d played the starters for one series and they’d scored a TD? What if they’d gone 3 and out? Either way it would’ve have meant shit to anybody but the fanbase so they could overreact one way or the other. The only team I care about watching the Broncos play is Seattle in week one. We need to get our starters to at least that point. We can’t afford more Tim Patrick type injuries.


I get it, but it seems other teams aren’t as concerned. Even Manning played in preseason. We’ll see if Hackett’s philosophy pays off. I hope so.

[Nomad]

Lol

Are you gonna be a little faggot all season? Don’t be a douche.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Are you gonna be a little faggot all season? Don’t be a douche.

Say what? Watch your tongue! It is hilarious that you ask a question like will broncos fans be patient? Lol the broncos ain’t no 1-2 yeArs away from shit for one.

[R8R H8R]

Because if ours got hurt, the season is essentially over. Our backup QBs aren’t very good, our backup ILBs and DL are terrible vs the run and our backup corners can’t cover a bed with a blanket. Risking injury to our starters is a terrible idea!!!

If it sounds like I’m overreacting maybe I am, but with our terrible luck with injuries the last few years minimizing the shots on goal for injury, especially in meaningless games, is exactly what I would do. The preseason is to flesh out your roster and test out your depth. Not to risk your starters. What would it have meant if we’d played the starters for one series and they’d scored a TD? What if they’d gone 3 and out? Either way it would’ve have meant shit to anybody but the fanbase so they could overreact one way or the other. The only team I care about watching the Broncos play is Seattle in week one. We need to get our starters to at least that point. We can’t afford more Tim Patrick type injuries.

As I said above, I am on the fence on the issue because I see both sides. However, I am leaning your way because of the reasons you have stated. The concerns with depth in the trenches is real; should be no debate there.

What I think is going on besides the obvious is that Paton & the coaching staff knows exactly what they have with the starting units on both sides, and just need to evaluate the depth. No need to put them at risk like you said. Let’s see if Paton makes some moves soon to try to plug some holes in the trenches.

[R8R H8R]

If you start feeling some concern over pre season showing from the 3rd string back ups then I’m going to be concerned

If I valued your opinion, I would ask for you to elaborate since the point obviously went over your head. But I don’t, so…

[Nomad]

As I said above, I am on the fence on the issue because I see both sides. However, I am leaning your way because of the reasons you have stated. The concerns with depth inthe trenches is real; should be no debate there.

What I think is going on besides the obvious is that Paton & the staff knows exactly what they have with the starting units on both sides, and just need to evaluate the depth. Ne need to put them at risk like you said. Let’s see if Paton makes some moves soon to try to plug some holes in the trenches.

HP is a very knowledgeable individual. He’s more right than wrong.

[Nomad]

Say what? Watch your tongue! It is hilarious that you ask a question like will broncos fans be patient? Lol the broncos ain’t no 1-2 yeArs away from shit for one.

I’m resetting. I like you, man, I get it’s funny to say “be patient”. I’m not sure Bronco fans have that patience. My apologies for calling you a fag. :D

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Broncos played only five starters … and it showed.

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Sometimes, Broncos coach Nathaniel Hackett’s shortest answers in a news conference are his best answers.

Exhibit A came minutes after the Buffalo Bills’ 42-15 preseason shellacking of the Broncos on Saturday.

“You (allow) six touchdowns on six drives, obviously nobody did good,” Hackett said.

Bingo.

The Broncos’ second- and third-team defenses resembled a turnstile and the offense was spinning its wheels against all three levels of the Bills’ depth chart, not so much creating a panic about the season, but creating concern over the team’s ability to withstand the inevitable injuries.

If the Broncos start the regular season 2-0 with wins at Seattle and against Houston, this game of course won’t even be a footnote. All will be forgotten and all will be well. But if multiple backup players on offense or defense are summoned into big roles … uh-oh.

“We definitely have a lot to clean up,” said Baron Browning, who started at outside linebacker. “Obviously, we need to work on tackling.”

The Broncos sat out 28 players and the Bills only 13. It showed.

rest - https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/20/broncos-bills-preseason-backups-no-match/

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If I valued your opinion, I would ask for you to elaborate since the point obviously went over your head. But I don’t, so…

Lol oooookay.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I’m resetting. I like you, man, I get it’s funny to say “be patient”. I’m not sure Bronco fans have that patience. My apologies for calling you a fag. :D

Too late!! I’m reporting you!!

It’s too late to apologize https://youtu.be/ZSM3w1v-A_Y

Lol But yeah really there’s quite a bit of broncos fans with zero patience to see ANYTHING through. And zero knowledge of the game itself. Our fan base at the games didn’t know why and when they should be silent on offense until Peyton manning arrived in Denver. Lol Peyton went bat shit crazy on the fans that game and ever since then they know when to be quiet. So maybe people can learn to be patient even though they won’t have too on this once because we ain’t finna be losing for no year or two before this thing takes off. The broncos are about to take off starting week one baby!!!!


Broncos country????? Let’s ride

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

rest - https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/20/broncos-bills-preseason-backups-no-match/

Yup we were no match for there 1st team vs our 2-4th team guys. Lol I really don’t know what people expected far as the final score. This was about individual play

[Krugan]

That was pathetic. 2nd 3rd 4th fodder groups looked just sad. Patience, there hasn't been for many years, why would it start now?

[Eddiemac87]

Hey. The cowboys, who we destroyed, killed the chargers… I guess that kind of puts that pathetic game in perspective, a bit

[chazoe60]

:laugh::laugh: @ anyone who thinks the preseason is in any way indicative of how the regular season will go.

[R8R H8R]

Hey. The cowboys, who we destroyed, killed the chargers… I guess that kind of puts that pathetic game in perspective, a bit

Maybe a little, but a real bounce back good game against the Vikings would do more, imo. Our back ups in the trenches have to prove they can’t be pushed around.

[Northman]

Maybe a little, but a real bounce back good game against the Vikings would do more, imo. Our back ups in the trenches have to prove they can’t be pushed around.

Thats going to be a tall order especially if the starters dont play. The bigger reality is our depth just isnt very good and probably wont be for a couple of years.

[Magnificent Seven]

Personally, I think new owners are soft. They need to be hard-nosed owners like Pat Bowlen.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Personally, I think new owners are soft. They need to be hard-nosed owners like Pat Bowlen.

Ummmm what?

[BroncoWave]

That was pathetic. 2nd 3rd 4th fodder groups looked just sad. Patience, there hasn't been for many years, why would it start now?

You realize their starters were playing our backups right?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Behind the Broncos: Reuniting with Von Miller in Buffalo

Video - https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/behind-the-broncos-reuniting-with-von-miller-in-buffalo

[Elevation inc]

Jaded, me and a few other posters in April......We have no ILB depth or help we ignored it in the draft and also the RT position, we are thin at CB and OL quality depth and special teams depth, so while Paton killed it with Russ, this team still will have issues. The Rest of the board and posters back in April OMG you are horrible fans cant you ever be optimistic LMAO.....Nothing has changed. We are a wild card caliber team that could make some noise if we click and pull it together by November. Otherwise this team still has holes and needs work at a bunch of spots it hasn't changed. Reality can be tough I know.......Its good Hackett knows we cant risk injuries most teams can't and usually only the top 4-5 teams in the NFL have that depth to backup starter injuries, and we aren't there yet it just is what it is....we are a 10-7 wildcard team maybe 11-6, 12-5 Home game if we ball out and stay healthy.


FYI its also preseason, none of this really matters till week 1 starts plain and simple.

[BroncoWave]

FYI its also preseason, none of this really matters till week 1 starts plain and simple.

Really all that needed to be said lol. You really can't take anything from that Bills game. Their 1s played our 2s, then their 2s played our 3s, etc. And the Bills might be the best team in the NFL this year, so it's not surprising that their starters would wreck any team's backups. Wake me when we play Seattle.

[BroncoJoe]

Really all that needed to be said lol. You really can't take anything from that Bills game. Their 1s played our 2s, then their 2s played our 3s, etc. And the Bills might be the best team in the NFL this year, so it's not surprising that their starters would wreck any team's backups. Wake me when we play Seattle.

This! Also, there will probably NEVER be a game where all 22 backups are playing. Injuries happen, but plenty of starters will still be out there.

[Krugan]

You realize their starters were playing our backups right?

You realize the starters did not play all game right?

Good grief people, our backups looked terrible. I am not claiming this is how the season will go, I am saying, it was pathetic out there. The back up and camp fodder are exactly that.

Go ahead and resume being butthurt of critics of the product we all just witnessed, by saying things like "this isnt the product we will see on opening day" or "this was just the backups". Well NO SHIAT, the critique was for what we saw saturday...

[R8R H8R]

...we are a 10-7 wildcard team maybe 11-6, 12-5 Home game if we ball out and stay healthy.



You say that like it’s a bad thing. :smile:

This team should be considered a possible playoff contender, not a SB contender, which is a huge step up from the past 5 yrs. To get to the SB this year, we need to be extremely lucky in injuries, and have certain teams like the Bills get beat by someone else in the playoffs. Possible I suppose, but not likely.

This team had too many holes to fill so Paton had to set priorities. QB is #1, and everything after that had to stand in line. It will take 2 or 3 yrs to get the depth needed to be a perennial SB contender.

[BroncoWave]

You realize the starters did not play all game right?

Good grief people, our backups looked terrible. I am not claiming this is how the season will go, I am saying, it was pathetic out there. The back up and camp fodder are exactly that.

Go ahead and resume being butthurt of critics of the product we all just witnessed, by saying things like "this isnt the product we will see on opening day" or "this was just the backups". Well NO SHIAT, the critique was for what we saw saturday...

It's still not that simple. Once their 2s came in, a lot of our 3s came in. It really wasn't an even battle in terms of spot on the depth chart until the end of the game, which was when we started scoring.

It just seems absurd to waste even 2 seconds critiquing anything about that game.

[Krugan]

It's still not that simple. Once their 2s came in, a lot of our 3s came in. It really wasn't an even battle in terms of spot on the depth chart until the end of the game, which was when we started scoring.

It just seems absurd to waste even 2 seconds critiquing anything about that game.

Its all there was going on with the team.... And yes it is that simple, it was a pathetic showing.

I cant call it pathetic, even though it was steaming garbage?

You can make excuses all day, but the product on the field was subpar and it was a pathetic.

If its absurd, why are you here critiquing my critique? It seems absurd, beyond wanting to argue about absurdity, that you would waste even one second debating the uselessness. I dont get it, it was a shit show of a preseason game, its what we had to watch and it sucked.

This board is supposed to be for talking about stuff, and this was stuff, and it was poor quality cheap import stuff...

[BroncoWave]

Its all there was going on with the team.... And yes it is that simple, it was a pathetic showing.

I cant call it pathetic, even though it was steaming garbage?

You can make excuses all day, but the product on the field was subpar and it was a pathetic.

If its absurd, why are you here critiquing my critique? It seems absurd, beyond wanting to argue about absurdity, that you would waste even one second debating the uselessness. I dont get it, it was a shit show of a preseason game, its what we had to watch and it sucked.

This board is supposed to be for talking about stuff, and this was stuff, and it was poor quality cheap import stuff...

I guess if you want to waste your time ranting about this knock yourself out!

[Krugan]

I guess if you want to waste your time ranting about this knock yourself out!

You too. You could simply have not responded, if you thought it was a waste of time.

The game certainly was, it was pathetic, which is all I said about it. Which was entirety of my critique, sadly you put far more effort into "breaking it down". Who is wearing the clown shoe now! (lighten up dude, your internal wanker should just stay internal)

"That was pathetic. 2nd 3rd 4th fodder groups looked just sad."

Ranting... :eyeroll:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Aug 22, 2022

Head Coach Nathaniel Hackett discusses the impact of evaluating many different players during the preseason, Billy Turner's status and how he hopes the team will bounce back against the Vikings.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/nathaniel-hackett-on-mistakes-vs-bills-when-you-put-a-lot-of-people-in-there-you

[Elevation inc]

You say that like it’s a bad thing. :smile:

This team should be considered a possible playoff contender, not a SB contender, which is a huge step up from the past 5 yrs. To get to the SB this year, we need to be extremely lucky in injuries, and have certain teams like the Bills get beat by someone else in the playoffs. Possible I suppose, but not likely.

This team had too many holes to fill so Paton had to set priorities. QB is #1, and everything after that had to stand in line. It will take 2 or 3 yrs to get the depth needed to be a perennial SB contender.

Its not a bad thing its reality we are about 3 wins better for the season (10-7) then the last year just by adding Russ...injuries and our play in November/December will be the deciding factors of wildcard, playoff contention etc... plain and simple. I don't believe we are a top 5 team in the NFL. Didn't even after the draft and getting Russ. We still have big holes at some key spots and depth issues.

[Elevation inc]

You realize the starters did not play all game right?

Good grief people, our backups looked terrible. I am not claiming this is how the season will go, I am saying, it was pathetic out there. The back up and camp fodder are exactly that.

Go ahead and resume being butthurt of critics of the product we all just witnessed, by saying things like "this isnt the product we will see on opening day" or "this was just the backups". Well NO SHIAT, the critique was for what we saw saturday...

LMAO Bills Coach yes starters will play, Broncos Head coach, Starters will not play. I didn't even tune in when I heard that already knowing it was going to be rough, the final score didn't surprise me at all nor did the fact we have depth issues and our 2nd and 3rd stringers suck.....Depth issues have been talked about by local, national and beat reporters as well as camp reports all summer....This team will contend if it stays healthy. If it doesn't Paton and Hackett will only keep this team competitive with smart moves from the waiver wire or trades lol. Yes the product sucked against the bills. For me it was neither a indictment on Hackett or the backups. It was simply expected.....

[Krugan]

So they were pathetic. Just in really long form.

Seriously though, the game sucked it just did. That is all.

Its not that complicated, the game was pathetic, and the backups looked bad.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Its not a bad thing its reality we are about 3 wins better for the season (10-7) then the last year just by adding Russ...injuries and our play in November/December will be the deciding factors of wildcard, playoff contention etc... plain and simple. I don't believe we are a top 5 team in the NFL. Didn't even after the draft and getting Russ. We still have big holes at some key spots and depth issues.

Big holes at what key spots?

[Elevation inc]

So they were pathetic. Just in really long form.

Seriously though, the game sucked it just did. That is all.

Its not that complicated, the game was pathetic, and the backups looked bad.


I don't actually disagree...it was horrible and pathetic. It just does mean much in the grand scope of things.

[Elevation inc]

Big holes at what key spots?

To start ILB and RT same as back in April when I said it, and you got mad we called out Paton for not addressing it, trying to sell us singleton was some good FA pickup to pair with Jewell and that Turner and Anderson were our answers at RT :lol:.....We are literally 1 injury to Darby(a pretty likely thing) from being f'ed at CB as well, and 1 injury away at WR to Sutton from being f'ed there as well. We have questions at depth across the team WR, DL, LB, CB, OL, which creates problems.

1 dumb pre-season game isn't enough to panic about anything but back in April and even before I was realistic about what this team could be saying wild card 10-7 type team. It hasn't changed in fact things like Jonas griffin, and Tim Patrick going down means we need a lot of things to fall our way.

[underrated29]

We do not have depth issues at wr. It's easily our deepest position on the team aside from edge.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Lol can’t even take the shit serious when somebody says we have depth issues alllllllll across the team and then List WR as one of them lmao.

[Krugan]

Lol can’t even take the shit serious when somebody says we have depth issues alllllllll across the team and then List WR as one of them lmao.

Outside of Sutton, and the "potential" of Jerry.

We have :

Tyrie Cleveland, Practice squad.
Brandon Johnson (who?) 1 season at UFC, who even knows...
Jalen Virgil 13 starts in 5 season at App state, the powerhouse WR college...
Kendall Hinton 15 catches for 175 yards and a touchdown
Seth Williams recent midpick, lots of potential, maybe solid depth
KJ Hamler 35 catches 455 yards 2 seasons, broken oft, maybe find his potential
Montrell Washington maybe, looked decent in preseason, has potential
Darrius Sheppard 3 seasons 6th team.

This screams deep, I guess.

Potential, some...

[Northman]

Outside of Sutton, and the "potential" of Jerry.

We have :

Tyrie Cleveland, Practice squad.
Brandon Johnson (who?) 1 season at UFC, who even knows...
Jalen Virgil 13 starts in 5 season at App state, the powerhouse WR college...
Kendall Hinton 15 catches for 175 yards and a touchdown
Seth Williams recent midpick, lots of potential, maybe solid depth
KJ Hamler 35 catches 455 yards 2 seasons, broken oft, maybe find his potential
Montrell Washington maybe, looked decent in preseason, has potential
Darrius Sheppard 3 seasons 6th team.

This screams deep, I guess.

Potential, some...


Em, depends how you look at it. I dont think there is any team in the NFL that has like 4-5 HOF WR's as their starters. I think the general point being made is even as backups they seem to be making plays (at least from what ive seen in the first 2 games) even when the QB play isnt all that great. From a depth stand point that is kind of what you want outside of our starters. We have to remember at one time Patrick was a nobody before stepping up himself. Obviously is Sutton, Hamler, etc go down will get a better idea of what these guys can do should we need them but from what ive seen i personally feel pretty comfortable with their drive and motivation so far in the preseason.

[Krugan]

Em, depends how you look at it. I dont think there is any team in the NFL that has like 4-5 HOF WR's as their starters. I think the general point being made is even as backups they seem to be making plays (at least from what ive seen in the first 2 games) even when the QB play isnt all that great. From a depth stand point that is kind of what you want outside of our starters. We have to remember at one time Patrick was a nobody before stepping up himself. Obviously is Sutton, Hamler, etc go down will get a better idea of what these guys can do should we need them but from what ive seen i personally feel pretty comfortable with their drive and motivation so far in the preseason.

Sure, lots of potential.

It does leave room for doubt. Jerry has been lack luster, we shall see. KJ the route runner, has not flashed that with any true regularity we shall see. The rest are bodies. To say you can not take someone seriously based on the idea that the WR group is without question, I think it needs to be called out. The group is pretty middle of the road.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Outside of Sutton, and the "potential" of Jerry.

We have :

Tyrie Cleveland, Practice squad.
Brandon Johnson (who?) 1 season at UFC, who even knows...
Jalen Virgil 13 starts in 5 season at App state, the powerhouse WR college...
Kendall Hinton 15 catches for 175 yards and a touchdown
Seth Williams recent midpick, lots of potential, maybe solid depth
KJ Hamler 35 catches 455 yards 2 seasons, broken oft, maybe find his potential
Montrell Washington maybe, looked decent in preseason, has potential
Darrius Sheppard 3 seasons 6th team.

This screams deep, I guess.

Potential, some...

Dude they all have been making play after play!!! The guys from 3rd string to like 6th-7th stringers have all showed up and made plays during practice and the pre season game’s. The broncos are clearly not lacking depth at WR just because they aren’t household names takes away the fact that they all have been stepping up? Ummm okay

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Em, depends how you look at it. I dont think there is any team in the NFL that has like 4-5 HOF WR's as their starters. I think the general point being made is even as backups they seem to be making plays (at least from what ive seen in the first 2 games) even when the QB play isnt all that great. From a depth stand point that is kind of what you want outside of our starters. We have to remember at one time Patrick was a nobody before stepping up himself. Obviously is Sutton, Hamler, etc go down will get a better idea of what these guys can do should we need them but from what ive seen i personally feel pretty comfortable with their drive and motivation so far in the preseason.


Absolutely! If there’s one group I’m not worried about it’s the WR room. The WR coach who was the only stay over from fangios staff is earning his keep! Dude is doing amazing things with his group no doubt! I loved the way he coached his position group and the energy he brings daily. He’s showing just how good of a coach he is. Especially since his group has been unleashed by hacketts offense. Hackett isn’t playing no game’s he’s going to run that ball and if you try to creep up with those safeties he’s going to make you pay via deep ball after deep ball.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Sure, lots of potential.

It does leave room for doubt. Jerry has been lack luster, we shall see. KJ the route runner, has not flashed that with any true regularity we shall see. The rest are bodies. To say you can not take someone seriously based on the idea that the WR group is without question, I think it needs to be called out. The group is pretty middle of the road.

Smh Jeudy has been anything but ( lack luster) this off season. He’s totally dominating out there every practice. KJ hamler obviously has game breaker written all over him and woulda had a great season last year had he not been hurt because shurmer would have kept trying to hit him vertical like he did when Drew lock was playing in the pre season…… oh wait we ended up starting teddy so even hamler would have been ineffective right along with the rest of our wideouts last year.

The broncos have Sutton Jeudy hamler Washington Hinton and then guys like Johnson Virgil Seth have all stepped up and been making plays.

It’s funny you people sitting here trying to shit on a guy like Johnson who legit came in late and has done nothing but work his ass off to the point Russell Wilson asked coach if he could see a little more of Johnson going against 1st and 2nd stringers because he likes what he sees but wants to see it vs stiffer competition obviously

[Krugan]

Smh Jeudy has been anything but ( lack luster) this off season. He’s totally dominating out there every practice. KJ hamler obviously has game breaker written all over him and woulda had a great season last year had he not been hurt because shurmer would have kept trying to hit him vertical like he did when Drew lock was playing in the pre season…… oh wait we ended up starting teddy so even hamler would have been ineffective right along with the rest of our wideouts last year.

The broncos have Sutton Jeudy hamler Washington Hinton and then guys like Johnson Virgil Seth have all stepped up and been making plays.

It’s funny you people sitting here trying to shit on a guy like Johnson who legit came in late and has done nothing but work his ass off to the point Russell Wilson asked coach if he could see a little more of Johnson going against 1st and 2nd stringers because he likes what he sees but wants to see it vs stiffer competition obviously

Jerry has come nowhere close to living up to his draft position. It just is.

This is all during practice. This group is middle of the road at best and 2 injuries away from being extremely poor.

No one is shitting on anyone, the guy had 1 season at ucf (12 starts), you just have this over hyper, everything is super, blinder package.

This is not a strength, I guess if you want to put it in context comparing it to some of the other groups, okay fine, its astounding.....

I swear, if you have anything but glowing reviews, IE, how piss poor our back ups played in this game, you are the devil. Go on now, enjoy your foosball....

[Elevation inc]

We do not have depth issues at wr. It's easily our deepest position on the team aside from edge.

We have Sutton who was off a bit last year and has yet to go live against other teams this year in real game action, we can talk he's fully back after the first couple games with Russ, I will say he is pretty much our only guarantee at the position in my eyes at the moment though and should hit WR1 full stop this year. We have Jeudy who hasn't done really anything in his NFL career to date, We have Hamler coming of a massive injury who just has his first game action last week, and then we have some media darling, pre-season hype wonder kids and Hinton. We have questions at WR until they are not. Sutton to a small extent, Jeudy and Hamler, plus our depth all have question marks surrounding them.

Questions exists at WR for starters and depth until they prove they are back to health or proving they were worthy of a 1st rd pick. Or as a WR 4,5,6 they are actually good in the reg season on special teams and in limited action.

[Elevation inc]

Lol can’t even take the shit serious when somebody says we have depth issues alllllllll across the team and then List WR as one of them lmao.

Well we have yet to take you serious on anything you post ever so there is that.......

[Elevation inc]

Em, depends how you look at it. I dont think there is any team in the NFL that has like 4-5 HOF WR's as their starters. I think the general point being made is even as backups they seem to be making plays (at least from what ive seen in the first 2 games) even when the QB play isnt all that great. From a depth stand point that is kind of what you want outside of our starters. We have to remember at one time Patrick was a nobody before stepping up himself. Obviously is Sutton, Hamler, etc go down will get a better idea of what these guys can do should we need them but from what ive seen i personally feel pretty comfortable with their drive and motivation so far in the preseason.

Every team has backups that make plays in pre-season. Hinton probably is our best backup WR and Tyrie for special teams. The others are hype kids in pre-season until they prove otherwise. Sutton is pretty much our only surefire answer at WR at the moment. Yes we expect plays from Hamler and Jeudy and if it happens were in big business. It just hasn't yet since its pre-season so the reality is we have 1 WR guarantee IMO ATM, a 1st rd hype kid the last 2 years who hasn't really done anything, a speed demon coming off a massive injury, and a former Qb who made a few plays last year, as well as a special teams darling who doesn't bring much as a passer since being drafted and some pre-season hype kids.....

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

You two have no idea what your talking about. It’s not eve. Worth the time, I just sit back now and let things happen and make sure you choke on all the crow you’ll be eating as the season goes on

[Northman]

It’s not eve. Worth the time,

Yet here you are anyway.

[Elevation inc]

You two have no idea what your talking about. It’s not eve. Worth the time, I just sit back now and let things happen and make sure you choke on all the crow you’ll be eating as the season goes on

Its impossible to choke on crow when you live in reality. I never said they couldn't ball or or wont going forward. I said they haven't to date. Reality is fickle for you I know.....

[Elevation inc]

Lets recap.

Sutton- Legit
Jeudy- Unproven to date, constant pre-season hype, reg season let down so far
Hamler- Coming back from nasty injury, and he actually wasn't even very good last year pre-injury for those paying actual attention
Cleveland- Special teams and has shown very little as WR in the pros to date
Washington- Special teams and rookie, has flashed in pre-season woopity doo dah dey let me know when we does it in real games
Virgil- UDFA and rookie has flashed in pre-season woopity doo dah dey let me know when we does it in real games


So yes looking at this I'm skeptical and worried about the WR room but also hopeful. It's possible to be both when you live in reality.

[Krugan]

You two have no idea what your talking about. It’s not eve. Worth the time, I just sit back now and let things happen and make sure you choke on all the crow you’ll be eating as the season goes on

Pretty sure, as said by Elevation, no one here said they could not compete, just that there is a big question mark. There is nothing there that says they are an absolute.

Again, you have blinders.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Lets recap.

Sutton- Legit
Jeudy- Unproven to date, constant pre-season hype, reg season let down so far
Hamler- Coming back from nasty injury, and he actually wasn't even very good last year pre-injury for those paying actual attention
Cleveland- Special teams and has shown very little as WR in the pros to date
Washington- Special teams and rookie, has flashed in pre-season woopity doo dah dey let me know when we does it in real games
Virgil- UDFA and rookie has flashed in pre-season woopity doo dah dey let me know when we does it in real games


So yes looking at this I'm skeptical and worried about the WR room but also hopeful. It's possible to be both when you live in reality.

I’d say your just a cover all bases person and won’t stand on shit! Like I said I’ll sit back and watch you folks eat crow! Tons of crow soup! Yes I’ll make it in the form of soup for you so it’s easier to swallow okay??


But on some real shit where did the saying eat crow come from? Is crow a nasty bird or some shit?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Pretty sure, as said by Elevation, no one here said they could not compete, just that there is a big question mark. There is nothing there that says they are an absolute.

Again, you have blinders.

I am aware of what guys are saying and doing, what there doing is covering all bases. Won’t take a stand either way so if they don’t perform they can say see I told you!!!! And if they do perform they can say see I told you they are ere huuuuuge question marks!

Too damn bad they won’t be underperforming, smh how could they fail with a QB like Wilson??? This is basically guys saying they don’t believe in Wilson when you don’t believe in the wideouts HE LIKES AND CHOSE!!!

[Krugan]

I am aware of what guys are saying and doing, what there doing is covering all bases. Won’t take a stand either way so if they don’t perform they can say see I told you!!!! And if they do perform they can say see I told you they are ere huuuuuge question marks!

Too damn bad they won’t be underperforming, smh how could they fail with a QB like Wilson??? This is basically guys saying they don’t believe in Wilson when you don’t believe in the wideouts HE LIKES AND CHOSE!!!
You got it all figured out.

[Hawgdriver]

You two have no idea what your talking about.

I don't care much for your style. The use of the word 'your' instead of the correct 'you are' is an example.

This is constant, and you are the only one in this social circle that insists on not conforming to convention. That is not respecting others.

Which, hey, whatever.

Just feedback man. If you care.

[NightTrainLayne]

I don't care much for your style. The use of the word 'your' instead of the correct 'you are' is an example.

This is constant, and you are the only one in this social circle that insists on not conforming to convention. That is not respecting others.

Which, hey, whatever.

Just feedback man. If you care.


I keep seeing this thread get bumped for the last few days, but see the name posting and ignore. . .it's for a pre-season game a couple of weeks ago. . .

Then I see it bumped by "Hawgdriver". "Oh" I think, "a good conversation must be going on over there afterall. .. ."

I am disappoint Hawg.

[Elevation inc]

I’d say your just a cover all bases person and won’t stand on shit! Like I said I’ll sit back and watch you folks eat crow! Tons of crow soup! Yes I’ll make it in the form of soup for you so it’s easier to swallow okay??


But on some real shit where did the saying eat crow come from? Is crow a nasty bird or some shit?

I stand on plenty I'm a realist......

as for the 2nd part valid question lol

[Tbolt]

Crows are carrion feeders and nothing that eats other dead, decaying animals typically produce a tasty meal.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Crows are carrion feeders and nothing that eats other dead, decaying animals typically produce a tasty meal.

Except pigs huh? Back when I used to eat the foul swine man I loved me some
Bacon and jimmy dean/ bob evans sausage links. Man was that stuff tasty, and honey glazed smoked ham….