QB opinions...give your outlook

[SmilinAssasSin27]

If I leave anyone out, feel free to add. What's your opinion on acquiring the potential targets at QB this offseason?

Rogers...no brainer for me. He would have to restructure and add years. Draft an train a replacement in a year or 2.

Watson...I still hate the allegations, but his talent is undeniable. Only judgement is that he didn't elevate Houston like we expect stud QBs to do.

Wilson...no brainer as well. Actually prefer over Roger's due to age.

Cousins...for the right price and I'd want a few year guaranteed years if we were to give a 1st. Not that I wanna give a 1st.

Jimmy G...no

Carr...never gonna happen in division, but I'd ride with him

Jameis...Straight free agent pickup and likely reasonable price. Grab him and draft Willis? I'm down but get ready for them INTs.

Pickett...No complaints at 9. But we have to be ready to draft over him next year.

Corral...Same as Pickett. Like him better but more injury/size concerns.

Strong...eh. Love his passing. Lack of mobility and injuries would keep me away.

Ridder...Love him. Trade back and get him in mid 1st. Add a pick or 2 for our troubles.

Willis...Not my preference of the rooks, but I could see the logic...Josh Allen. Very hard to start him day 1.

Mariota...I'd cringe. Only way I accept this is as a bridge to Willis. But still no.

Flame away.

[Buff]

I'd be surprised if we don't acquire one of: Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins or Jimmy G.

Three different QBs in three different tiers, but likely to be the best veterans available -- I don't think we hoarded all that cap space to go into next year with two QBs on rookie contracts. All three would be an upgrade over our current situation, and therefore I'm trying to keep an open mind on all of them.

Rodgers would instantly make us Super Bowl contenders, so that wouldn't suck.

Cousins might be the most intriguing for a few reasons:

1.) He clearly is the best pure passer not named Rodgers that will be available.

2.) His cap hit is egregious next year - $45 mil. The Vikings need cap space, and have a young QB in Mond who they could hand things to. Coupled with Paton's familiarity and our cap space -- it sure makes a lot of sense that they'd at least talk about a deal.

3.) Cousins was originally drafted by Mike Shanahan, who still talks with many inside the Broncos org and just recently hosted Hackett & Co. for a welcome party.

Jimmy G is a tougher sell but has a track record of winning, familiarity in the offense, and will be cheaper to acquire than the other two.


...I don't know enough about the rookies yet, but I'm always down for drafting a QB.

[BroncoJoe]

Why isn't Lock even an option on your list?

[Buff]

Why isn't Lock even an option on your list?

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.

[underrated29]

Lock will 100% be on this roster unless he is part of a package trade for a Rodgers type qb.

If we don't land Rodgers, Wilson, Watson (we aren't interested until legal is gone), cousins or meatball. It will be lock as the man. Im sure we woukd pair him with a Willis, ridder, strong but lock will start unless a rook just balls the F out.


Its going to be Rodgers. Im sure of it.


But for qbs, I think Paton likes Willis and ridder and corral. Esp. Willis.


I dont want any qb at 9. If we take a qb before 25 I wont be happy....and by that I mean trading down several times and loading up, or moving back Into the 1st. I think lock can beat any rookie aside from Willis and only because his running skills.

[Northman]

Rogers...Would take but would much rather go with a younger guy just because of the time limit. Rodgers has maybe 1 or 2 years left and the off the field
stuff can become a distraction.

Watson...Allegations suck but he is innocent until proven guilty and if cleared he would be my first choice based on talent alone.

Wilson...Wouldnt mind having him but the injuries he got his past year could linger, would have to make sure his health is 100% back before i would take
him.

Cousins...Ceiling hit, would rather ride with Lock or a rookie but if he is the only choice than so be it but he wont take us to the promised land.

Jimmy G...Ceiling hit, poor man's Trent Dilfer. Pass

Carr.. Ceiling hit, cant elevate team but the situation is the same as Cousins for me.

Jameis...Too many turnovers, turn inconsistent. Pass

Pickett...Easily my favorite of the upcoming draft choices. Smart, mobile, good arm, and quick learner.

Corral...Dont know enough but arm strength looks good, wouldnt mind him if Pickett is gone.

Strong...Hear good things about his arm strength but level of competition and injury history could be a big concern. But if taken in the 2nd or 3rd could be
good gamble.

Ridder...Beyond Corrall and Pickett i like him but only as a 2nd round choice.

Willis...Level of competition is a concern, has athletic talent but reminds me a bit of Jackson whom im not very impressed with in terms of passing efficiency.

Mariota...Pass

Howell- Competent, would be fine if none of the other QB's are still there in the draft but i do feel he will be the one that busts the most in this draft. Needs a lot of help to succeed compared to other QB's in the draft.

[aberdien]

Rogers...He's going to Tennessee

Watson...He's not coming here

Wilson...He is also not coming here

Cousins...He's trash, but at least we'd probably make the playoffs

Jimmy G...Cheap, we'd make the playoffs

Carr...Not happening, but I like him as a QB more than Cousins

Jameis...yes, **** her right in the *****

Pickett...idk

Corral...Yes

Strong...idk

Ridder...Yes

Willis...nah

Mariota...I like him more than most of the other retread options.

Trubisky...sure why not

[BroncoJoe]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.

Well, since he's the only QB we have under contract, I thought he'd at least be addressed.

[aberdien]

We already know opinions on Lock

[Northman]

I dont mind Lock being an option but im just not sold that Hackett is going to settle for Lock unless something drastically changes from now til the draft.

[aberdien]

Lock would only be like a 3 game placeholder until the rookie is deemed "ready"

[BroncoJoe]

We already know opinions on Lock

At the 4:40 mark in this video, Hackett says "young quarterback" when talking about the offense.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/broncos-country-connected-a-player-led-team-is-how-you-build-dynasties

[aberdien]

At the 4:40 mark in this video, Hackett says "young quarterback" when talking about the offense.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/broncos-country-connected-a-player-led-team-is-how-you-build-dynasties

I don't care about what you posted, we don't need to use this thread to re-litigate Drew Lock! We already know opinions on Lock.

Furthermore, this is the question the thread is asking:

"What's your opinion on acquiring the potential targets at QB this offseason?"

Which means Lock is not a topic of conversation as we wouldn't need to acquire him.

[Mozzafiato]

I’d be curious to hear Paton’s justification for taking any of these QB’s at 9 while passing on Fields in the same draft slot last year.

[Northman]

I’d be curious to hear Paton’s justification for taking any of these QB’s at 9 while passing on Fields in the same draft slot last year.

I think the justification is simple. He thought that either Lock would win the job outright or Teddy might be able to get us to the playoffs. But now he has a new HC which means that new HC will have his own vision of whom he wants to run the team offense.

[Northman]

People have to remember, in the offseason Denver was interested in Stafford, Rodgers, and Watson. They also were apparently interested in Trey Lance so its not like Denver wasnt looking for a QB. Now whether they were interested in Fields no one really knows but considering Fields has not looked that great so far it sounds like they dodged a bullet there.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

OK

Lock...no. I'll say it again, if we go draft, he is gone. If we go FA, he's a cheap backup and may stay.

Howell...has potential with weapons around him. Same issue as Willis at Sr. Bowl though. It's a controlled environment. Plays to his strengths. Doesn't adlib well or necessarily read defenses. Strengths not a fit for our O based on article I posted elsewhere.

[underrated29]

I’d be curious to hear Paton’s justification for taking any of these QB’s at 9 while passing on Fields in the same draft slot last year.

You wont hear it because we wont be picking at 9. That is going to be the Green bays pick. All in due time. Just like we do not have a DC because we want the rams guy. Just have to wait for him.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

You wont hear it because we wont be picking at 9. That is going to be the Green bays pick. All in due time. Just like we do not have a DC because we want the rams guy. Just have to wait for him.

It'll never happen, but I'd love to trade back 3 spots now, get another pick and still deal #12 to GB. They'll want 1s. Who says it has to be #9?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.

Ummm news flash it was fangio who made the dumb ass decision to go with teddy not the front office. And for you to sit here and call somebody dumb who does things you can barely dream of doing is absurd!

Also Hackett said he’s excited to work with lock so Um yeah try again with your hating bud.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.

Also you clearly didn’t watch the 1 on 1 with Hackett on db.com Hackett absolutely mentioned lock, also when fangio was fired Paton mentioned Lock and how the HC would have to
Have a plan regarding lock. You people don’t pay attention to anything and then make these statements as if they are facts when the facts are you just don’t know what you are talking about

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

At the 4:40 mark in this video, Hackett says "young quarterback" when talking about the offense.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/video/broncos-country-connected-a-player-led-team-is-how-you-build-dynasties

Majority of the people making comments aren’t even watching the sit downs with Hackett lol. Shit is amazing how the buff guy makes those statements without even watching the sit downs lol.
Hackett clearly said he’s excited to work with the young quarterback, the young wide outs. The young tightends and young RaB

[Mozzafiato]

I think the justification is simple. He thought that either Lock would win the job outright or Teddy might be able to get us to the playoffs. But now he has a new HC which means that new HC will have his own vision of whom he wants to run the team offense.

Yeah, I get that, and you may be right. The problem with that justification is that not only was it wrong, but nobody in this year’s class is ranked as high as a prospect as Fields was last year. So now this year he may be forced to take a wild swing at a lesser prospect. And I hate to make this about Fields, because I never have been a Fields guy. I’m more just looking at the situation the Broncos find themselves in now. Talking themselves into a mediocre QB prospect.

[underrated29]

It'll never happen, but I'd love to trade back 3 spots now, get another pick and still deal #12 to GB. They'll want 1s. Who says it has to be #9?

You made me so hot with that

[Elevation inc]

Rogers...Not coming here

Watson...Not coming here the closer he gets to being cleared the higher the trade package keeps rising. Don't be surprised if he ends up playing in Houston next year, when they make Flores the coach lol

Wilson...Not coming here

Cousins...Shitty ass scrub who throws for 300 yds a game in garbage time. Why would Minnesota trade him if he is as good as some of you bronco fans try to imply :lol:

Jimmy G...Don't want him but its better and cheaper then Cousins and he knows what it means to be in the Sb and have a good playoff record. He would be the best scrub Qb brought into Denver going back to Plummer that's how many scrubs we have gone through FYI.

Carr...never gonna happen in division, but I'd ride with him......(Agreed on all counts here)

Jameis...Scrub f that, wont be worth cost.

Pickett...No complaints at 9. But we have to be ready to draft over him next year. (Agreed)

Corral...Same as Pickett. Like him better but more injury/size concerns. (Agreed)

Strong...eh. Love his passing. Lack of mobility and injuries would keep me away. (No thanks for me as well)

Ridder...Love him. Trade back and get him in mid 1st. Add a pick or 2 for our troubles. (looked shaky during Senior bowl week so far, he isn't a 1st rd Qb.)

Willis...Not my preference of the rooks, but I could see the logic...Josh Allen. Very hard to start him day 1. (Agreed he cant start day 1 needs time. High ceiling though)

Mariota...I'd cringe. Only way I accept this is as a bridge to Willis. But still no. (1 year vet deal and I'm in with Lock as the backup and a 1st rd rookie developing. Its also Cheap as shit use the cap space to get Edge rusher, RT and CB help, and bring back AJ and Kenny young)

[Elevation inc]

A good way to do this honestly is to trade for Jimmy G (Yuck) for our 2nd rd pick(rumored cost) at a cost of 26 Million next year(way cheaper in cost, length and draft capital then scrub ass Kirk), while rolling with Lock as the back up and developing the rookie. If done right the rookie is ready for 2023 or you draft in 2023. The problem with this though is if Jimmy does well your going to be forced to re-sign a Avg Qb long term. If it doesn't work though your free and clear on lock, Jimmy and ready for the rook in 2023.

I personally still prefer to let Hackett try and roll with Lock and a Develop a 1st rd. Rookie. While having a competent backup vet like Mariotta for the year. If lock balls you have him and a developing rookie. If he fails(Likely) you cut ties with him for nothing and The rook starts in 2023 backed up by some other vet. If the rook looks bad you also have good capital for the 2023 draft. Keep in mind I also wont be expecting much so if this does work it will be a pleasant surprise lol

You use the draft capital and cap space saved to build and fill all our other holes. We are not a QB away from contending that is a media narrative some broncos fans are eating up. Massive roster questions on both sides, scheme tweaks or changes across the board and all new coaches the players have to buy into.....2023 will be the start of our contending if we get this next year right, without mortgaging cap space and draft capital. We are in no position to act like we are the rams......

[Simple Jaded]

Ummm news flash it was fangio who made the dumb ass decision to go with teddy not the front office. And for you to sit here and call somebody dumb who does things you can barely dream of doing is absurd!

Also Hackett said he’s excited to work with lock so Um yeah try again with your hating bud.

Hackett never mentioned Lock.

[Simple Jaded]

A good way to do this honestly is to trade for Jimmy G (Yuck) for our 2nd rd pick(rumored cost) at a cost of 26 Million next year(way cheaper in cost, length and draft capital then scrub ass Kirk), while rolling with Lock as the back up and developing the rookie. If done right the rookie is ready for 2023 or you draft in 2023. The problem with this though is if Jimmy does well your going to be forced to re-sign a Avg Qb long term. If it doesn't work though your free and clear on lock, Jimmy and ready for the rook in 2023.

I personally still prefer to let Hackett try and roll with Lock and a Develop a 1st rd. Rookie. While having a competent backup vet like Mariotta for the year. If lock balls you have him and a developing rookie. If he fails(Likely) you cut ties with him for nothing and The rook starts in 2023 backed up by some other vet. If the rook looks bad you also have good capital for the 2023 draft. Keep in mind I also wont be expecting much so if this does work it will be a pleasant surprise lol

You use the draft capital and cap space saved to build and fill all our other holes. We are not a QB away from contending that is a media narrative some broncos fans are eating up. Massive roster questions on both sides, scheme tweaks or changes across the board and all new coaches the players have to buy into.....2023 will be the start of our contending if we get this next year right, without mortgaging cap space and draft capital. We are in no position to act like we are the rams......

A 4th round pick is plenty for Garoppolo.

[Elevation inc]

A 4th round pick is plenty for Garoppolo.

Agreed......but word out of the Senior bowl is 2nd day pick rd 2 or 3 selection. Pitt, Denver, Tampa, NO.....top 4 rumored teams from some senior bowl circles. We happen to have the highest rd 2 pick.....

[Elevation inc]

Hackett never mentioned Lock.

He did say we have a young Qb he was excited to work with. So to be fair I can understand why he thinks its lock without lock being mentioned specifically, he could have meant Rypien or Hinton I guess lol. However if that's the case were in big trouble lol.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hackett never mentioned Lock.

I’m not even going to waste my time when it’s this level of being clueless as to what was said and how he didn’t address any of them by name……

When he says he’s excited to work with the young tightends who do you think he’s referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young running back whose he referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young Wideouts we have whose he referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young quarterback who the hell is he referring too?

Good grief this shit is sad engaging with people who are pretty much willfully ignorant on the subject because the shit is out there for everyone to literally click on and watch but you guys would rather make these statements exposing yourselves as folks who clearly don’t know what they are talking about.

I’m done talking about it and until some of you stop acting like casual’s Who simply refuse to watch videos of the coach speaking. Im damn near dumbing myself down having to repeat shit over and over when you can go watch it yourself and actually learn something instead of making yourself look goofy as hell bruh.

[Slick]

I’d be happy with Rodgers, Wilson or Watson. If we can’t either one of those 3 then draft a QB.

Going the Jimmy G or Cousins route means we have to give up draft capital to get them, plus sign them to an extension due to their contract situations, meaning we’d be committing to them long term. Not interested in that at all.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

He did say we have a young Qb he was excited to work with. So to be fair I can understand why he thinks its lock without lock being mentioned specifically, he could have meant Rypien or Hinton I guess lol. However if that's the case were in big trouble lol.

Bruhhhh I just can’t with people who are making statements on a subject they clearly are clueless about. . Unless folks wanna believe he’s referring to rypien or
Hinton like you said…… but obviously he’s referring to lock, just like obviously he’s referring to fant and Albert when he said he’s excited to work with the young tightends and so on. He never mentioned any of them by name, the only person from the skill position groups he actually named was Gordon who he acknowledged as a veteran but went on to say how he’s excited to work with the young RB we have who he didn’t mention by name just like the rest. Hackett is excited to work with all this young talent and watch it grow in his system!

Certain people cannot accept that Hackett wants to get his hands on Lock and see if he can unleash him. That’s fine with me though, just a reminder that I’m glad fans have ZERO impact on roster moves and who the coaches wanna coach and believe in.

[Elevation inc]

I’m not even going to waste my time when it’s this level of being clueless as to what was said and how he didn’t address any of them by name……

When he says he’s excited to work with the young tightends who do you think he’s referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young running back whose he referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young Wideouts we have whose he referring too? When he says he’s excited to work with the young quarterback who the hell is he referring too?

Good grief this shit is sad engaging with people who are pretty much willfully ignorant on the subject because the shit is out there for everyone to literally click on and watch but you guys would rather make these statements exposing yourselves as folks who clearly don’t know what they are talking about.

I’m done talking about it and until some of you stop acting like casual’s Who simply refuse to watch videos of the coach speaking. Im damn near dumbing myself down having to repeat shit over and over when you can go watch it yourself and actually learn something instead of making yourself look goofy as hell bruh.

Jaded wasn't wrong. He didn't say Locks name that's an actual fact.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Jaded wasn't wrong. He didn't say Locks name that's an actual fact.

He didn’t say anybodies name. So saying he didn’t say locks name is saying what? Absolutely nothing.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Unless you just wanna play games this morning. Too early for me for games.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Jaded you are tricky bro, sometimes it’s hard to tell if your just trolling me or your dead serious. So first thing first have you actually watched the 1 on 1 sitdown with Hackett on db.com with the female?

If you have then you are definitely trolling me. If you haven’t then you need to go watch it asap so you can actually know what’s being said straight from coach. That goes for everyone who has something to say about anything.. Hackett is telling people what he thinks and feels and his thinking and feelings are all that matter. The man said he’s excited to work with Drew lock I don’t have to make stuff up it’s his own word’s!

[Simple Jaded]

I know three things; I’m every bit as big a Lock fan as you are, I’m about as “casual” as a punch in the nuts and Hackett never mentioned Lock’s name.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I know three things; I’m every bit as big a Lock fan as you are, I’m about as “casual” as a punch in the nuts and Hackett never mentioned Lock’s name.

Watch the videos!!!!! Hear it straight from the
Horses mouth instead of bullshit tweets from outsiders who know nothing, when coach is speaking it’s best people listEn.

[Northman]

Im sure that Hackett will evaluate if and where Lock's place is on the team. But what Hackett said could mean anything and it doesnt guarantee that Lock will be the starting QB going into next year. So on some level JHam is right and on another level Jaded is right. I seriously doubt that Hackett will pull a Josh McDaniels and not at least try to see what he has in Drew but in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM does this mean that Lock is a guaranteed starter for 2022. Anyone assuming that is being naive.

[BroncoJoe]

Im sure that Hackett will evaluate if and where Lock's place is on the team. But what Hackett said could mean anything and it doesnt guarantee that Lock will be the starting QB going into next year. So on some level JHam is right and on another level Jaded is right. I seriously doubt that Hackett will pull a Josh McDaniels and not at least try to see what he has in Drew but in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM does this mean that Lock is a guaranteed starter for 2022. Anyone assuming that is being naive.

Truth.

[chazoe60]

An option that I think is okay also is to stockpile picks for 2023. Trade back a couple of times for 2023 picks and build up our OL, Pass rush and DL. Sign a Trubisky type and roll in 2022 with Trubisky and Lock, see how those guy do with the new staff and be loaded for bear in the 2023 draft if we want to move up to grab a blue chipper.

[BroncoJoe]

An option that I think is okay also is to stockpile picks for 2023. Trade back a couple of times for 2023 picks and build up our OL, Pass rush and DL. Sign a Trubisky type and roll in 2022 with Trubisky and Lock, see how those guy do with the new staff and be loaded for bear in the 2023 draft if we want to move up to grab a blue chipper.

According to many here, if we roll with Lock, we'll get the #1 pick anyway.

[chazoe60]

According to many here, if we roll with Lock, we'll get the #1 pick anyway.

Yeah, well we have a lot of fans who don't know shit.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Yeah, well we have a lot of fans who don't know shit.

Absolutely

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Im sure that Hackett will evaluate if and where Lock's place is on the team. But what Hackett said could mean anything and it doesnt guarantee that Lock will be the starting QB going into next year. So on some level JHam is right and on another level Jaded is right. I seriously doubt that Hackett will pull a Josh McDaniels and not at least try to see what he has in Drew but in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM does this mean that Lock is a guaranteed starter for 2022. Anyone assuming that is being naive.

I am 100% right I only repeated what Hackett said! Which is he’s excited to work with Lock. Simple as that I never said he said Lock was his starter or anything like that.

That’s like me walking up to you and saying hey bro have you seen my wallet? And you just stand there looking crazy ignoring me because I didn’t say your name even though it’s clear as day I was talking to you….. that’s essentially what’s happening when jaded says we’ll he didn’t say his name.

A guy as good as Hackett is going to be would be foolish to not put his hands on Lock to see what he can do with him. Considering the tools are all there. The progress is absolutely there. The game has slowed down for Lock he even said it himself. He can see the defense now because it’s no longer a blurr.

We’ll see what happens though. The draft will tell the story though because as much as a few people hope we go after rodgers or somebody I just don’t see it happening. It’ll be a rookie we invest in and Drew lock For me. Whether that rookie comes from this years crop or next years crop.

[King87]

:shocked:

[Nomad]

I’m liking Ridder. He has a high ceiling, lots of potential, and a very likable young man.

[King87]

I’m liking Ridder. He has a high ceiling, lots of potential, and a very likable young man.

Ridder in the second round is the best value pick in the draft, imo. Assuming it plays out like that, of course.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Ridder in the second round is the best value pick in the draft, imo. Assuming it plays out like that, of course.

He's my guy going forward. I'll support almost any of the rookies being selected, but he's my dude. Trade back to low 20s. Grab a pick or 2 and get me some Ridder

[chazoe60]

I love Ridder from a leadership perspective and his athleticism, he's an exceptional young man, but his accuracy scares the bejesus out of me. Allen missed the net completely at the senior bowl though and he's my favorite QB in the world now so I'd be willing to roll the dice on Ridder.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

He's my guy going forward. I'll support almost any of the rookies being selected, but he's my dude. Trade back to low 20s. Grab a pick or 2 and get me some Ridder

I'd also support staying put at 9 and moving back up a few spots if we would need to for Ridder.

At 9...a top 3 OT or a top 3 pass rusher. Use a 4th to move up if he's still around late day 1 or beginning of day 2.

Then grab the South Alabama WR with our 2nd #2.

CB and OT or Pass Rusher in round 3.

Possibly my ideal use for our top 5 picks.

[Nomad]

I agree.

CoachChaz....whatcha think?

[Simple Jaded]

I'd also support staying put at 9 and moving back up a few spots if we would need to for Ridder.

At 9...a top 3 OT or a top 3 pass rusher. Use a 4th to move up if he's still around late day 1 or beginning of day 2.

Then grab the South Alabama WR with our 2nd #2.

CB and OT or Pass Rusher in round 3.

Possibly my ideal use for our top 5 picks.
Why take a WR so high unless he’s a steal like the injured Bama WR’s?

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Why take a WR so high unless he’s a steal like the injured Bama WR’s?

He's a beast. I'm in the minority in regards to our WRs. Not sold on the corps as a whole. Injuries. Drops. Etc.

[Simple Jaded]

He's a beast. I'm in the minority in regards to our WRs. Not sold on the corps as a whole. Injuries. Drops. Etc.

You can get beasts in the 4th round.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

You can get beasts in the 4th round.

Probably. And I usually am a proponent of waiting on the position. But it is OUR 3rd pick if it were to fall that way. We would have filled some holes. I like his game. His evals are all over the place, but that's normal for small school guys.

OT seems to he top heavy. Not as deep as pass rush, wr and db. If one of the top 3 OTs are there at 9, I'd jump all over them. But also won't be upset at the QB of Hackett's choice.

[Simple Jaded]

Probably. And I usually am a proponent of waiting on the position. But it is OUR 3rd pick if it were to fall that way. We would have filled some holes. I like his game. His evals are all over the place, but that's normal for small school guys.

OT seems to he top heavy. Not as deep as pass rush, wr and db. If one of the top 3 OTs are there at 9, I'd jump all over them. But also won't be upset at the QB of Hackett's choice.

I think starting T’s are 3 rounds deep if these rankings hold up.

My favorite (Tyler Smith) is skyrocketing, of course, just like Becton did.

[King87]

I think starting T’s are 3 rounds deep if these rankings hold up.

My favorite (Tyler Smith) is skyrocketing, of course, just like Becton did.

Smith is really good. He's my second fave.

[King87]

Becton has been pure garbage thus far and is at risk of losing his job as a statert. He gets hurt a lot because he's fat, and he takes plays off because he's fat and lazy.

Andrews has been shit in NYG, too.

[Simple Jaded]

Becton has been pure garbage thus far and is at risk of losing his job as a statert. He gets hurt a lot because he's fat, and he takes plays off because he's fat and lazy.

Andrews has been shit in NYG, too.
Becton is in danger of losing his job due to injury/conditioning, you’re flat wrong about Andrews (who rebounded as a sophomore).

[Simple Jaded]

Plus, your boy Bolles sucks.

[King87]

Becton is in danger of losing his job due to injury/conditioning, you’re flat wrong about Andrews (who rebounded as a sophomore).

Andrews flat out sucks. He was horrible as a rookie and was passable last season. The Giants, who are quickly becoming one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL, were wrong to reach for him.

He will never, EVER, be a top ten LT in the NFL. And he is worse than Bolles

I am the WR, pass rusher, and now OT whisperer.

Put some respek on my name!

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Becton has been pure garbage thus far and is at risk of losing his job as a statert. He gets hurt a lot because he's fat, and he takes plays off because he's fat and lazy.

Andrews has been shit in NYG, too.

Lots of feedback out there talking about his improvement and how happy they've become with him . Andrew's that is

[SmilinAssasSin27]

https://nypost.com/2021/12/30/giants-andrew-thomas-could-anchor-offensive-line/

[King87]

Lots of feedback out there talking about his improvement and how happy they've become with him . Andrew's that is

Nah. He is utter shit. I've watched him play. He ******* sucks.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/11/26/pff-names-new-york-giants-andrew-thomas-second-year-breakout-player/

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Nah. He is utter shit. I've watched him play. He ******* sucks.

Beg to differ. I doubt you have seen much of him this year.

[King87]

Beg to differ. I doubt you have seen much of him this year.

Well then you can take your doubt and shove it up your bussy! Because when you ball out like King, you have Sunday Ticket.

And by ball out I mean spend way more on your football habit than your should.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

https://www.giants.com/news/andrew-thomas-good-morning-football-brian-daboll-daniel-jones-saquon-barkley

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Well then you can take your doubt and shove it up your bussy! Because when you ball out like King, you have Sunday Ticket.

And by ball out I mean spend way more on your football habit than your should.

1-How many screens you got going at once?
2-Why the F would you be watching the Giants?

Case rested

[King87]

https://www.giants.com/news/andrew-thomas-good-morning-football-brian-daboll-daniel-jones-saquon-barkley

I don't care. I care about what I see. What my eyes tell me. Because I've been listening to Denver fans bitch about Bolles even after he turned the corner, or how Thomas was this magnificent prospect even when he had demonstrable flaws. And becton, etc.

This is what Thomas is: an overdrafted solid player. People fell in love with a good player who stayed in college longer than he should have because he had to. He will never be an elite LT. And that's what he is drafted to be.

[King87]

1-How many screens you got going at once?
2-Why the F would you be watching the Giants?

Case tested

Usually about four.

And to see if I was wrong about this LT.

I wasn't.

[Simple Jaded]

Btw, Becton isn’t in danger of getting benched, the loser at LT moves to RT.

[Simple Jaded]

I don't care. I care about what I see. What my eyes tell me. Because I've been listening to Denver fans bitch about Bolles even after he turned the corner, or how Thomas was this magnificent prospect even when he had demonstrable flaws. And becton, etc.

This is what Thomas is: an overdrafted solid player. People fell in love with a good player who stayed in college longer than he should have because he had to. He will never be an elite LT. And that's what he is drafted to be.
Weird how the book is already written on Thomas/Becton but Bolles literally got 5 years of excuses from you.

[chazoe60]

I am so over Bolles. He just sucks. His one good year was the year the refs decided they weren't going to call holding.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Weird how the book is already written on Thomas/Becton but Bolles literally got 5 years of excuses from you.

He's just mad he lost a bet. His mind can not accept being wrong. This amuses me.

[Simple Jaded]

He's just mad he lost a bet. His mind can not accept being wrong. This amuses me.

Pfft! Really Smart people, amirite?

[King87]

Btw, Becton isn’t in danger of getting benched, the loser at LT moves to RT.

They hate his low effort and taking plays off.

Two straight bad years and coaches split on him

He needs serious change

[King87]

I am so over Bolles. He just sucks. His one good year was the year the refs decided they weren't going to call holding.

He’s literally been good the past several season and grades out that way.


SA: I was wrong in the sense that I didn’t think NYG would **** up that badly.

I’m not wrong on the player. Two separate things.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

He’s literally been good the past several season and grades out that way.


SA: I was wrong in the sense that I didn’t think NYG would **** up that badly.

I’m not wrong on the player. Two separate things.

But u kinda r.

[Simple Jaded]

They hate his low effort and taking plays off.

Two straight bad years and coaches split on him

He needs serious change

They’re upset that he didn’t play this season.

His first season he ball’d out.

At his worst he’s better than Bolles.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Smh bolles has been good. The fact that people wanna create another hole and throw away our own home grown talent doesn’t surprise me though.

[Simple Jaded]

Dude falls out of bed a better player than Bolles.

[Simple Jaded]

Smh bolles has been good. The fact that people wanna create another hole and throw away our own home grown talent doesn’t surprise me though.

Good? Fine, you win.

[Simple Jaded]

Imagine the 6th highest paid player in the world being “good”.

[King87]

Bolles has been good. If the haters want to bash him because they can’t let go of his rookie and sophomore years it be what it be.

Monsters!

[King87]

They’re upset that he didn’t play this season.

His first season he ball’d out.

At his worst he’s better than Bolles.
He was literally bad his rookie season.

[King87]

But u kinda r.

Nah. You’re a dookie.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Nah. You’re a dookie.

I'm rubber.

[King87]

I'm rubber.

Rubber dog poo dookie!

Bayaaaah!

[Simple Jaded]

I’m just glad we can all agree that Thomas > Becton > Bolles

[King87]

I’m just glad we can all agree that Thomas > Becton > Bolles

The fact of the matter is that reputation of Bolles prevails over his play.

He gave up a whopping five sacks last season. Five. On a team with a shit ton of long-developing pass plays, TBW/Lock, etc. Five sacks. That tied him for the 20th most. Ergo, his sack total was more reasonable.

Penalties? He did have eight, tied for tenth most. And yet we all know that several of those were based on stopping his QB from getting maimed. In fact, we can literally find numerous pro-bowl and all-pro level tackles having that many penalties in recent seasons.

Ergo, the notion that Becton, a guy who gets hurt a lot, his effort issues, has coaches divided upon him, and who isn't living up to his billing is on Bolles level is silly. The better argument is that Bolles needed several years to become a solid LT, so why not Becton? But that's not the argument you're making, because in your eyes talent= good. Thomas, who still doesn't pass the eye test IMO, is closer, but he's still a physically limited player. Which, ironically, should make you dislike him over Bolles.

[Simple Jaded]

Thomas is physically limited? News to me.

[King87]

Thomas is physically limited? News to me.

You had me sold on him until I looked into his scouting reports and found he lacked upper body strength and had balance issues.

He's still not as strong as he should be and he still gets beaten based on his balance.

He's a 'good' LT, I guess, but will never be elite. And they're shining his ass because he's in New York, where everyone is overrated. If he played for a small market team no one would care.

He's not Andrew Whitworth! He's an overdrafted and overcelebrated fixture of draftniks.

That. Is. All.

[Simple Jaded]

I remember posting his PFF scouting profile that showed where his numbers ranked on average, they were outstanding.

[King87]

:listen:

[Simple Jaded]

:smack:

[King87]

:thrasher:

[SmilinAssasSin27]

You had me sold on him until I looked into his scouting reports and found he lacked upper body strength and had balance issues.

He's still not as strong as he should be and he still gets beaten based on his balance.

He's a 'good' LT, I guess, but will never be elite. And they're shining his ass because he's in New York, where everyone is overrated. If he played for a small market team no one would care.

He's not Andrew Whitworth! He's an overdrafted and overcelebrated fixture of draftniks.

That. Is. All.

It goes both ways in NY. If you suck, the pitch forks follow. The articles say he gave up 1 sack. Yet you slurp Bolles who gave up 5? The dude can play.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

The 22-year-old Thomas has allowed just one sack and 16 pressures over 11 games this season, while committing just four penalties on 684 offensive snaps.

Hardly terrible. And his QBs aren't avoiding anyone with their pocket presence.

[King87]

The 22-year-old Thomas has allowed just one sack and 16 pressures over 11 games this season, while committing just four penalties on 684 offensive snaps.

Hardly terrible. And his QBs aren't avoiding anyone with their pocket presence.

He sucks against the run and gives up a lot of pressure. Daniel Jones is also fairly mobile.

Dude is overdrafted, overrated, and overly-loved by draftniks.

He gets a big ole meh.

[King87]

It goes both ways in NY. If you suck, the pitch forks follow. The articles say he gave up 1 sack. Yet you slurp Bolles who gave up 5? The dude can play.

I don't slurp Bolles. When he was drafted I got blasted for disliking the pick because the attitude on the board then was "we have to take a first round LT, any LT." As if taking a tackle for the sake of a tackle is some good idea. He struggled like I predicted. Then he started getting better but people fell in love with narratives. So when he had his first good stretch of play it was "but they're not calling holding," then it was "he's still overrated," and now it's just a pretend-time that he's a scrub.

[Simple Jaded]

Slurp?

Lolololololololololol

[King87]

Slurp?

Lolololololololololol

Y'all should trade up for Pickett. Then you heathens will be happy for once. ;)

[Simple Jaded]

:thrasher:

:rockon:

[King87]

:rockon:

My dude!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I don't slurp Bolles. When he was drafted I got blasted for disliking the pick because the attitude on the board then was "we have to take a first round LT, any LT." As if taking a tackle for the sake of a tackle is some good idea. He struggled like I predicted. Then he started getting better but people fell in love with narratives. So when he had his first good stretch of play it was "but they're not calling holding," then it was "he's still overrated," and now it's just a pretend-time that he's a scrub.


Agreed bolles is a good LT. broncos fans hate talent though so there’s that

[Simple Jaded]

Imagine the 6th highest paid T on the planet being “good”?

Sell high!

[Elevation inc]

He's a beast. I'm in the minority in regards to our WRs. Not sold on the corps as a whole. Injuries. Drops. Etc.

I am also wary of our WR's among other spots which is why I don't believe were SB ready even with Rodgers.

[Elevation inc]

Bolles has been good. If the haters want to bash him because they can’t let go of his rookie and sophomore years it be what it be.

Monsters!

He has been trash 3 out of 5 years, he has been somewhat good in 1 when refs refused to call holding the entire season and slightly avg last year. He isn't worth his contract and were stuck with him, but his play isn't very good. He also just lost his OL whisperer so I expect to see more of the same avg play from him.....


RAWWWRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

[King87]

He has been trash 3 out of 5 years, he has been somewhat good in 1 when refs refused to call holding the entire season and slightly avg last year. He isn't worth his contract and were stuck with him, but his play isn't very good. He also just lost his OL whisperer so I expect to see more of the same avg play from him.....


RAWWWRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

He had two bad seasons. One very average season where he caught on at the end. Moreover, let's presume you're right--which I don't yield to, but for sake of argument-- he has been good for two years now. So those bad years are behind him, and ironically a raw prospect coming out of college took some time to develop?

He wasn't slightly above average last year. He gave up five sacks, which put him in the top third of LT's. Moreover, if you're hellbent on penalty yards, keep in mind that studs like Tunsil, Baktiari, Taylor Lewan, etc. have all recently had seasons with similar holding calls.

So again, your narrative isn't just outdated, it's out-of-focus. Moreover, he absolutely is worth that contract: Denver has had issues for a long time finding a good LT, and in today's NFL lineman are playing at a lower level (I think mostly due to college scheme) than in prior generations.

[Mozzafiato]

1490723782171889668

[dogfish]

I don't care about what you posted, we don't need to use this thread to re-litigate Drew Lock! We already know opinions on Lock.


good point. . . we need this thread for re-hashing all the opinions about other QBs that have also been extensively covered in other threads. . . lol. . . it be what it be this time of year. . .

[aberdien]

Screw everybody else, move heaven and earth and gimme Murray

https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1490774867121168391?s=20&t=hlmmSK5aQRwfUnFu_EdD-w

[King87]

If he's already unhappy on a team that has a good roster and builds around him then he's probably got character issues.

[Northman]

If he's already unhappy on a team that has a good roster and builds around him then he's probably got character issues.

Agreed.

[Northman]

Also somewhere Josh Rosen is laughing his ass off.

[King87]

Also somewhere Josh Rosen is laughing his ass off.

If people think Lock got screwed over, they should pour one out for Josh Rosen.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

If people think Lock got screwed over, they should pour one out for Josh Rosen.

Multiple franchises soured on him immediately. He just didn't have the goods. It happens. I was excited about Lock when he was drafted.

[King87]

Multiple franchises soured on him immediately. He just didn't have the goods. It happens. I was excited about Lock when he was drafted.

Then this wouldn't apply to you. But if the 'wrong's Lock has faced = him being screwed then Rosen got screwed worse. It's common sense. Lock had a bad line? Cardinals literally had the worst line in football that year, to the point even a wily veteran like Bradford couldn't do anything with that team. His RB's and WR's and TE's were dramatically worse than anything Lock ever played with. He didn't just have different OC's and coordinators, he had different coaches and franchises. One of the biggest arguments Lock fans make is the lack of continuity. Well Rosen didn't even get a full year with one franchise.

The argument either forces them to realize what truly being screwed over is, or at least see that players with greater talent and pedigree wind up getting tough luck, too. But then you'll just have Rosen bashers (for a variety of reasons often not linked to football) say he sucked so much they should have moved on immediately. You can't faithfully argue for Lock being unknown and not do the same with Rosen.

<3

[Elevation inc]

If people think Lock got screwed over, they should pour one out for Josh Rosen.

False Rosen has bad character and wasn't dedicated to his craft and was kind of a emo bitch, he was a more talented Paxton Lynch lol. I will however be fair and say he was done no favors by the coaching staff in Arizona or his surrounding talent, there is a lot of truth to that.

[King87]

False Rosen has bad character and wasn't dedicated to his craft and was kind of a emo bitch, he was a more talented Paxton Lynch lol. I will however be fair and say he was done no favors by the coaching staff in Arizona or his surrounding talent, there is a lot of truth to that.

Dedicated to his craft? I kept hearing how Lock had to rededicate himself to his craft. I also remember a certain Qb showing character/maturity issues via getting a QB room suspended and trying to lie about what he did.

He also got hosed: if new coaches and systems and not enough practice and game time screws one QB, it should screw another. If you're wanting to get into specifics, that's fine, but then we can start chipping away at how 'Drew Lock was screwed'.

The point isn't that Rosen is going to turn it around and become the man. He's not. I wouldn't even take him as a QB 3 in this time. I'm just saying there are distinctions, distinctions without a difference, and consistency. I care about these things. And I do enjoy some of the discrepancies in logic that cannot be explained away.

[Elevation inc]

Dedicated to his craft? I kept hearing how Lock had to rededicate himself to his craft. I also remember a certain Qb showing character/maturity issues via getting a QB room suspended and trying to lie about what he did.

He also got hosed: if new coaches and systems and not enough practice and game time screws one QB, it should screw another. If you're wanting to get into specifics, that's fine, but then we can start chipping away at how 'Drew Lock was screwed'.

The point isn't that Rosen is going to turn it around and become the man. He's not. I wouldn't even take him as a QB 3 in this time. I'm just saying there are distinctions, distinctions without a difference, and consistency. I care about these things. And I do enjoy some of the discrepancies in logic that cannot be explained away.

Lock has been dedicated plenty of evidence out there to back it up. I have also backed up many times he f'ed up with the covid shit and even applied it logically to why a coach on the hot seat was panicked about those types of things, and chose the safer floor with teddy. Covid f'ed up everyone he doesn't get a pass for his mistakes there but he came back and worked his ass off the following year. That's what you want to see young guys do, rebound and get better from mistakes.....

I also backed up that Rosen did also get screwed somewhat so now your essentially arguing with yourself RAAAWWWRRRRR! Its also not out of the realm that lock goes that route as well and cant even be a QB 3 somewhere, His dedication to his craft and work ethic says he has a shot to make it, but only time will tell. Hackett and this off-season are big wild cards for him.

[King87]

Lock has been dedicated plenty of evidence out there to back it up. I have also backed up many times he f'ed up with the covid shit and even applied it logically to why a coach on the hot seat was panicked about those types of things, and chose the safer floor with teddy. Covid f'ed up everyone he doesn't get a pass for his mistakes there but he came back and worked his ass off the following year. That's what you want to see young guys do, rebound and get better from mistakes.....

I also backed up that Rosen did also get screwed somewhat so now your essentially arguing with yourself RAAAWWWRRRRR! Its also not out of the realm that lock goes that route as well and cant even be a QB 3 somewhere, His dedication to his craft and work ethic says he has a shot to make it, but only time will tell. Hackett and this off-season are big wild cards for him.

He had to "rededicate himself," and that makes you ask why he had to do that? That's not a good look. His entire demeanor and attitude stands out in contrast from most starting QB's in the league.

Regarding Fangio: a coach on the hotseat would want to go with the best option. Lock couldn't separate himself from Teddy, didn't show growth in his mental game, and wasn't picked. It's not exactly some shocker that a coach might guy "the more talented guy shit the bed last year, isn't showing he's better than the other guy, and he's still a turnover risk..."

Point is that you can sympathize with Lock to an extent, but better talented QB's have been ****** harder. Rosen is one of them.

[Elevation inc]

He had to "rededicate himself," and that makes you ask why he had to do that? That's not a good look. His entire demeanor and attitude stands out in contrast from most starting QB's in the league.

Regarding Fangio: a coach on the hotseat would want to go with the best option. Lock couldn't separate himself from Teddy, didn't show growth in his mental game, and wasn't picked. It's not exactly some shocker that a coach might guy "the more talented guy shit the bed last year, isn't showing he's better than the other guy, and he's still a turnover risk..."

Point is that you can sympathize with Lock to an extent, but better talented QB's have been ****** harder. Rosen is one of them.

I understand the nuance King, Jones was in a similar boat in NY. Lots of QB's get f'ed by ego coaches thinking they know better when really they don't. Fangio is a bit of a petty man when it comes to mistakes. He loved calling out Von as well. Fangio didn't chose the better performing QB going into the season, he chose the veteran the LR liked and who was less mistake prone and who he thought was a better leader for the position. That teddy didn't manifest though and never was going to and it got him fired.

[King87]

I understand the nuance King, Jones was in a similar boat in NY. Lots of QB's get f'ed by ego coaches thinking they know better when really they don't. Fangio is a bit of a petty man when it comes to mistakes. He loved calling out Von as well. Fangio didn't chose the better performing QB going into the season, he chose the veteran the LR liked and who was less mistake prone and who he thought was a better leader for the position. That teddy didn't manifest though and never was going to and it got him fired.

Fangio was an old *******. I hated the hire because there's a difference between being old-school and being a ***** and calling it old-school. He was the latter. The issue is that DL wasn't the better QB; you were trading flaws. If I'm going to wind up with average production, which is what DL was offering, the safer option was more consistent.

Teddy almost got you to the playoffs and you would have probably taken Pitt's spot had he not gotten hurt. DL won zero games a starter; going with Teddy didn't get Fangio fired.

[King87]

You're a good person, INC. I appreciate you. <3

But also RAWR!

[Elevation inc]

Fangio was an old *******. I hated the hire because there's a difference between being old-school and being a ***** and calling it old-school. He was the latter. The issue is that DL wasn't the better QB; you were trading flaws. If I'm going to wind up with average production, which is what DL was offering, the safer option was more consistent.

Teddy almost got you to the playoffs and you would have probably taken Pitt's spot had he not gotten hurt. DL won zero games a starter; going with Teddy didn't get Fangio fired.



Teddy couldn't beat Case Keenum, he was taking us nowhere. Drew lock went 0-3 the same way teddy would have. Teddy would have lost those games as well the stats would have been about the same. Had we started drew from the get go who knows what would have happened I cant predict the future and neither can you. I get why Fangio did what he did but it was a failed call. Also Shurmur was a bigger part of the problem then teddy or drew. Fangio and his staff got him fired more then either Qb did.

[Elevation inc]

You're a good person, INC. I appreciate you. <3

But also RAWR!

:beer:

[King87]

Teddy couldn't beat Case Keenum, he was taking us nowhere. Drew lock went 0-3 the same way teddy would have. Teddy would have lost those games as well the stats would have been about the same. Had we started drew from the get go who knows what would have happened I cant predict the future and neither can you. I get why Fangio did what he did but it was a failed call. Also Shurmur was a bigger part of the problem then teddy or drew. Fangio and his staff got him fired more then either Qb did.

Teddy was coming off of that injury that almost killed him.

Lock went 0-3. We don't know what Teddy would have done, but Lock was morel likey to go out and lose a winnable game than Teddy.

There's no point in drafting a guy coming off being the worst starter in the league. Less so when he can't separate himself from Teddy. Teddy is now, as he has been, a better player. Fangio started the better QB. You could argue maybe Lock improves as you go along, but that's never been his MO.

Shurmur was a horrible OC. Scangs was a horrible OC. Fagio can destroy an offense both as a DC...but also his own offense as well.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Teddy was coming off of that injury that almost killed him.

Lock went 0-3. We don't know what Teddy would have done, but Lock was morel likey to go out and lose a winnable game than Teddy.

There's no point in drafting a guy coming off being the worst starter in the league. Less so when he can't separate himself from Teddy. Teddy is now, as he has been, a better player. Fangio started the better QB. You could argue maybe Lock improves as you go along, but that's never been his MO.

Shurmur was a horrible OC. Scangs was a horrible OC. Fagio can destroy an offense both as a DC...but also his own offense as well.

Unbelievable after all everyone has seen your still dying on the hill of teddy was the better player and maybe lock woulda got better as the season went along….. news flash king that’s the fkn point! Lol you don’t play the game to beat the jags giants and jets to start the season and consider it a success! Those were the perfect 3 teams to start the year vs and as you say maybe get better along the way ! I guarantee a legit HC like Hackett with Vision doesn’t start teddy below average ass!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Screw everybody else, move heaven and earth and gimme Murray

https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1490774867121168391?s=20&t=hlmmSK5aQRwfUnFu_EdD-w

Smh the fact that he deleted everything from the account pretty much says this is just CAP.

[Simple Jaded]

WhT the **** is CAP?

[Simple Jaded]

You're a good person, INC. I appreciate you. <3

But also RAWR!

Barf

[Simple Jaded]

False Rosen has bad character and wasn't dedicated to his craft and was kind of a emo bitch, he was a more talented Paxton Lynch lol. I will however be fair and say he was done no favors by the coaching staff in Arizona or his surrounding talent, there is a lot of truth to that.

Was a 5-Star recruit and dominant from Day 1, then was a Top 10 NFL draft pick … but yeah, other than that Rosen wasn’t dedicated to his craft.

It’s the hat, and btw, the majority of the planet agrees with that hat.

[Simple Jaded]

The fact of the matter is that reputation of Bolles prevails over his play.

He gave up a whopping five sacks last season. Five. On a team with a shit ton of long-developing pass plays, TBW/Lock, etc. Five sacks. That tied him for the 20th most. Ergo, his sack total was more reasonable.

Penalties? He did have eight, tied for tenth most. And yet we all know that several of those were based on stopping his QB from getting maimed. In fact, we can literally find numerous pro-bowl and all-pro level tackles having that many penalties in recent seasons.

Ergo, the notion that Becton, a guy who gets hurt a lot, his effort issues, has coaches divided upon him, and who isn't living up to his billing is on Bolles level is silly. The better argument is that Bolles needed several years to become a solid LT, so why not Becton? But that's not the argument you're making, because in your eyes talent= good. Thomas, who still doesn't pass the eye test IMO, is closer, but he's still a physically limited player. Which, ironically, should make you dislike him over Bolles.

Valid points.

So I’m glad we can all agree that Becton > Thomas > Bolles

[King87]

Valid points.

So I’m glad we can all agree that Becton > Thomas > Bolles

I deserve so much more than your friendship.

God hates me.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

WhT the **** is CAP?

Bullshit

[King87]

Barf

Run the hands!

[King87]

Bullshit

Shouldn't it just be crap then?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Shouldn't it just be crap then?

Not in 21-22

[dogfish]

Run the hands!

run the jewels!

[King87]

Not in 21-22

You ain't capping about cap, I just was trying to make you laugh.
#bars
#baaaaaaars

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Stay away from Murray.

[aberdien]

buy low on Murray

[aberdien]

WhT the **** is CAP?

"That's cap" means "that's bullshit" or "I don't believe it/you" according to kids these days.

[Eddiemac87]

WhT the **** is CAP?

cap:

lying for no reason. like actually why would you say this

Example:
king - I love Ohio
Everyone here- STOP THE CAP

[Elevation inc]

Was a 5-Star recruit and dominant from Day 1, then was a Top 10 NFL draft pick … but yeah, other than that Rosen wasn’t dedicated to his craft.

It’s the hat, and btw, the majority of the planet agrees with that hat.

I could give a rats ass about the hat. I saw him plenty in the PAC-12 and I never saw or bought the hype he struck me as vastly overrated as a franchise QB prospect, tools were there physically but mentally he didn't have the goods to be that needed leader(yes I know barf lol), he could throw and had a NFL skillset sure, but his attitude, cockiness, and and rumored LR issues were things I didn't like. The hat had nothing to do with it. I also like to give King shit about him because its fun :lol:, but fully am willing to agree he was hung out to dry a bit in the pro's as a rookie. Now though no one could care les about his 5 star recruit title or his overrated hype as a college prospect on a underachieving UCLA squad for the talent they had. He shouldn't even be on a NFL roster at this point. :lol:

[Elevation inc]

Valid points.

So I’m glad we can all agree that Becton > Thomas > Bolles

:laugh:

Buy low!

[dogfish]

"That's cap" means "that's bullshit" or "I don't believe it/you" according to kids these days.


cap:

lying for no reason. like actually why would you say this

Example:
king - I love Ohio
Everyone here- STOP THE CAP

kids are fuggin' dumb. . .

[aberdien]

kids are fuggin' dumb. . .

No cap...

[Simple Jaded]

Stay away from Murray.

What, not scrubby enough?

[Simple Jaded]

What, not scrubby enough?

Cousins > Kyler Murray

Apparently

[King87]

Cousins > Kyler Murray

Apparently

Negotiating a contract (this is the prevailing view as to why he's doing this) in such a manner just screams weird to me.

Also, as someone who defends Rosen, it's weird to be called a talent hater. Ironically, by doing so, some might call me a scrub-lover, but for the opposite reasons you do.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

What, not scrubby enough?

Speculation by reporters that he may be sniffing MLB. Not saying it's happening, but his dedication to football is apparently in question

[Simple Jaded]

Ok, so the Broncos can’t go after a QB that’s ever scrubbed his social media accounts, the pickings get thinner by the day.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Man Kyle ain’t dissing Arizona over a contract. Hell get his money idk why he deleted his social media but I doubt he’s going to throw a fit when they have plenty time to work on a contract before training camp start’s.

Now if he wants to go play baseball then whatever. But I just don’t think the social media stuff is connected in any way.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Ok, so the Broncos can’t go after a QB that’s ever scrubbed his social media accounts, the pickings get thinner by the day.

Sith

[dogfish]

Speculation by reporters that he may be sniffing MLB. Not saying it's happening, but his dedication to football is apparently in question

that's absurd. . . he's gonna go ride a bus for a minor league salary for the next 2-3 years or more, rather than getting paid NFL starting QB scratch? no way. . . he's posturing to get his contract extension done now, rather than having to play the 5th year option / franchise tag game. . . or, he may legitimately want a trade if the cards won't go that route, but i don't buy for a second that he'd pivot to baseball now. . .

[dogfish]

What, not scrubby enough?

he doesn't know the system!

[aberdien]

The interesting part is he has the same agent as Kingsbury apparently. My guess is he's not long for Arizona and Kingsbury is also not long for Arizona.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

The interesting part is he has the same agent as Kingsbury apparently. My guess is he's not long for Arizona and Kingsbury is also not long for Arizona.

Michael wilbon said those exact words this week

[aberdien]

Michael wilbon said those exact words this week

I have been watching PTI.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I have been watching PTI.

No cap?

[King87]

No cap?

No cap; MW and TK are <3

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

No cap?

Usually the person making the statement says no cap, he or she isn’t asked no cap?

[King87]

Usually the person making the statement says no cap, he or she isn’t asked no cap?

But, sometimes the listener can respond with "You're capping?" or "cap?"

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

But, sometimes the listener can respond with "You're capping?" or "cap?"

Absolutely but the other way is a no go.

[King87]

Absolutely but the other way is a no go.

:yo:

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I forgot about Huntley. Did anyone mention him. He may be a nice reasonably priced QB project. He showed well given the circumstances, but not well enough for a huge payday. He might be the bridge with real potential that gives us best of all worlds.

[dogfish]

I forgot about Huntley. Did anyone mention him. He may be a nice reasonably priced QB project. He showed well given the circumstances, but not well enough for a huge payday. He might be the bridge with real potential that gives us best of all worlds.

if he's legit, won't the vultures want to hang on to him?

also, does hackett want to run a bunch of zone read?

[Northman]

I think Huntley fits the Ravens offense better than what Denver does not too mention Huntley sort of outplayed Lamar last year so im not sure Bmore would be ready to part ways with Huntley if things go south next year.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

He might have played himself into a contract richer than what they would want to pay for a backup

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.

Lol this guy still making ignorant post even though he’s been proven wrong time after time after time. I’m not even going to bother responding to correct the shit anymore. At this point your just willfully ignorant and don’t even care how crazy you sound.

[King87]

Lol this guy still making ignorant post even though he’s been proven wrong time after time after time. I’m not even going to bother responding to correct the shit anymore. At this point your just willfully ignorant and don’t even care how crazy you sound.

So what has he been wrong about?

[Elevation inc]

So what has he been wrong about?

I think the current org structure sees potential in lock and will see what Hackett can do with him. It was Fangio/Shurmur that had problems with Lock. I do expect him to be on the roster come TC, the current OC and staff has alluded to positive things about lock. I don't think he is there plan A by any means nor should he be at this point. Its probably Rodgers, Wilson, Watson. Then they probably have their guy in the draft to work with. I think lock only becomes a viable starting option if the coaches like what they see this off-season from him, and there is no guarantee there.

[King87]

I think the current org structure sees potential in lock and will see what Hackett can do with him. It was Fangio/Shurmur that had problems with Lock. I do expect him to be on the roster come TC, the current OC and staff has alluded to positive things about lock. I don't think he is there plan A by any means nor should he be at this point. Its probably Rodgers, Wilson, Watson. Then they probably have their guy in the draft to work with. I think lock only becomes a viable starting option if the coaches like what they see this off-season from him, and there is no guarantee there.

These are fine takes, but I'm looking for objective incorrectness. Your stance noted above is as valid of a take as the one Buff was quoted in. I'm more looking to the past as J-Ham seemed to be implying, at the very least, a long track record of derpitude (scientific term) from our Buffalo.

[MasterShake]

Wilson or Rodgers in that order would be the ideal thing to get me super excited about the season. Watson I will never understand the hype around, even without the creepy allegations.

Cousins is still intriguing because he puts up some great numbers, just not sure why his team's record is always so middling.

Everything else we might as well just trot out Teddy Two-crutches and hope he doesn't collapse as his legs snap like spaghetti in week four after his 5th concussion. At that point I'd just as soon roll with Lock under Hackett and look to the future by drafting a QB and hoping for the best. Without a top tier QB acquisition I don't want to waste the season by either not developing/seeing what we have with a QB or not drafting one even though the class is weak. This journeyman shit is old.

[Mozzafiato]

Wilson or Rodgers in that order would be the ideal thing to get me super excited about the season. Watson I will never understand the hype around, even without the creepy allegations.

Cousins is still intriguing because he puts up some great numbers, just not sure why his team's record is always so middling.

Everything else we might as well just trot out Teddy Two-crutches and hope he doesn't collapse as his legs snap like spaghetti in week four after his 5th concussion. At that point I'd just as soon roll with Lock under Hackett and look to the future by drafting a QB and hoping for the best. Without a top tier QB acquisition I don't want to waste the season by either not developing/seeing what we have with a QB or not drafting one even though the class is weak. This journeyman shit is old.

26 year old top 10 (at least!) QB? They’re not available too often.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

So what has he been wrong about?

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup.

Sorry but fangio and shurmer are the idiots who named teddy the starter NOT THE ORGANIZATION.

They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Ummm he was named the startern( down the stretch), spoken differently about him? Who? Fangio and shurmer? Two guys who personally hates the kid on a personal level because of his flash. To the point a ******* head coach whose suppose to be the leader of a team says happen birthday to teddy and says **** locks birthday right? Totally normal behavior from a HC huh?

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

His name didn’t have to come up in the opening press conference for the simple fact Paton said every candidate interviewed would have to have a plan for DREW LOCK AND YES HE SAID HIS NAME. Meaning locks already been discussed and there is a plan for him. Not to mention Hackett didn’t mention any of our young stars by name when he said he was excited to work with all these young guy’s.


And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.


Hard to take a post like this serious when somebody shows there own lack of intelligence by being willfully ignorant because he cannot sit down and watch the staff speak on 1 on 1s on db.com where they actually do mention lock by name and praise his skill set’s! To say lock isn’t intelligent is a dumb ass statement in itself because I’d bet my life that Muff and you couldn’t go through as many offense’s as Drew has had to go through and yet he still played well enough to get himself drafted, and has a work ethic so strong that Peyton manning stands behind him and believes in him. There already gearing up to put in more work this off season.

Like outtin just said the tools are all there now it’s time to get into the playbook and see where he stand’s. Jordan Love was considered intelligent? Hell no but he had all the tools, after that it’s up to the coaches to get that man ready!

His final statement isn’t even worthy of a reply, he’ll none of it was worthy of a reply I only responded to the silly shit because YOU king asked.

Now I’m moving on because it’s pointless dealing with any of you who won’t even take a couple hours of your day to sit and listen to the staff speak. But yet you’d listen to fired incompetent bitches like fangio and shurmer.

[Northman]

He mad. Lol

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

He mad. Lol

He wrong. Lol

[Timmy!]

Hey JHam, DeShaun Watson called. He's very impressed with your "treatment" of Lock and wants to know if your "services" are available.

[King87]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup.

Sorry but fangio and shurmer are the idiots who named teddy the starter NOT THE ORGANIZATION.

They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Ummm he was named the startern( down the stretch), spoken differently about him? Who? Fangio and shurmer? Two guys who personally hates the kid on a personal level because of his flash. To the point a ******* head coach whose suppose to be the leader of a team says happen birthday to teddy and says **** locks birthday right? Totally normal behavior from a HC huh?

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

His name didn’t have to come up in the opening press conference for the simple fact Paton said every candidate interviewed would have to have a plan for DREW LOCK AND YES HE SAID HIS NAME. Meaning locks already been discussed and there is a plan for him. Not to mention Hackett didn’t mention any of our young stars by name when he said he was excited to work with all these young guy’s.


And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.


Hard to take a post like this serious when somebody shows there own lack of intelligence by being willfully ignorant because he cannot sit down and watch the staff speak on 1 on 1s on db.com where they actually do mention lock by name and praise his skill set’s! To say lock isn’t intelligent is a dumb ass statement in itself because I’d bet my life that Muff and you couldn’t go through as many offense’s as Drew has had to go through and yet he still played well enough to get himself drafted, and has a work ethic so strong that Peyton manning stands behind him and believes in him. There already gearing up to put in more work this off season.

Like outtin just said the tools are all there now it’s time to get into the playbook and see where he stand’s. Jordan Love was considered intelligent? Hell no but he had all the tools, after that it’s up to the coaches to get that man ready!

His final statement isn’t even worthy of a reply, he’ll none of it was worthy of a reply I only responded to the silly shit because YOU king asked.

Now I’m moving on because it’s pointless dealing with any of you who won’t even take a couple hours of your day to sit and listen to the staff speak. But yet you’d listen to fired incompetent bitches like fangio and shurmer.

A lot of this is wrong, but you're moving on and I respect that.

But you

are

mad.

[Jsteve01]

https://twitter.com/TJenkinsElite/status/1496163724817989634?t=yeGw51FrUUibs_9JVhDezw&s=19

[Jsteve01]

I love watching Jenkins evaluate quarterbacks. It'll be interesting North when he gets to pick it. But he's pretty high on Corral, Strong and Willis at this point. He hasn't broken down any tape on pickett or Ritter yet. He is definitely worth a follow on Twitter and YouTube though. Tons of great stuff on his YouTube page.

[Jsteve01]

I like all of the top five quarterbacks. I've said this before but none of them at 9. But I wouldn't even be upset if we traded back to say 15 to 20 and drafted Willis, corral, or pickett. I'd prefer to draft the best available quarterback in the second and see what this staff can do in development and then go all in on next year's class.

[King87]

If a guy is a first rounder, he's a first rounder, imo. It's a judgment call, though.

[Elevation inc]

These are fine takes, but I'm looking for objective incorrectness. Your stance noted above is as valid of a take as the one Buff was quoted in. I'm more looking to the past as J-Ham seemed to be implying, at the very least, a long track record of derpitude (scientific term) from our Buffalo.

I am not on the Lock is the answer train...We have talked about this. There is to many nuances here to discuss, but Lock is on his last best chance to ever be a starter in this league. So many factors as to why that is, some his fault some not. I have always said we have failed drew, which I do believe. However I have never been this excited about a coaching staff since Shanny's early days, so we will see what happens.

[Elevation inc]

https://twitter.com/TJenkinsElite/status/1496163724817989634?t=yeGw51FrUUibs_9JVhDezw&s=19

I have said that since October. I see no reason Pickett, Corral and Willis cant be legit with a good situation.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hey JHam, DeShaun Watson called. He's very impressed with your "treatment" of Lock and wants to know if your "services" are available.

Hey Tim I have no idea wth you talking about little fella

[King87]

I am not on the Lock is the answer train...We have talked about this. There is to many nuances here to discuss, but Lock is on his last best chance to ever be a starter in this league. So many factors as to why that is, some his fault some not. I have always said we have failed drew, which I do believe. However I have never been this excited about a coaching staff since Shanny's early days, so we will see what happens.

I feel you bro. I was just asking for something different because JHam phrasing.

[Northman]

https://twitter.com/TJenkinsElite/status/1496163724817989634?t=yeGw51FrUUibs_9JVhDezw&s=19

Ive said it before, this class "could" turn out to be better than next years or it may not. The draft is a crap shoot but King just said it, these prospects are rated where they are because thats where they are projected to go. None of them are reaches in my opinion (Pickett, Corrall, Willis). Most of the detractors are often wrong about QB's year in and year out anyway so i give it no mind.

[Jsteve01]

Ive said it before, this class "could" turn out to be better than next years or it may not. The draft is a crap shoot but King just said it, these prospects are rated where they are because thats where they are projected to go. None of them are reaches in my opinion (Pickett, Corrall, Willis). Most of the detractors are often wrong about QB's year in and year out anyway so i give it no mind.

Yeah we're not talking about the 2013 class here. I think there's a lot more potential in this class. And given the way that they built this staff and the emphasis on player development I would have better feelings about drafting a quarterback in this class than I would have if we had the same staff from last year.

[Timmy!]

Hey Tim I have no idea wth you talking about little fella

Heh. Little. That's pretty funny.

[slim]

Heh. Little. That's pretty funny.

JHam is feeling froggy.

[dogfish]

JHam shit-talking buff and timmy. . . man, what a time to be alive!

:rofl:

[Mozzafiato]

1497279028411068417

[dogfish]

JHam is feeling froggy.

he loves that froggy style. . .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPsIuzobCDs&ab_channel=Babylon303

[Northman]

JHam shit-talking buff and timmy. . . man, what a time to be alive!

:rofl:

You cant fix stupid.

[Hawgdriver]

JHam shit-talking buff and timmy. . . man, what a time to be alive!

:rofl:

BF be like...

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0f/55/3d/0f553dcefcff4f3130eb9f8b9b5e1623.jpg

[Simple Jaded]

he loves that froggy style. . .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPsIuzobCDs&ab_channel=Babylon303

What the **** did I just witness?

[Simple Jaded]

If a guy is a first rounder, he's a first rounder, imo. It's a judgment call, though.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

[dogfish]

What the **** did I just witness?

it's from fear of a black hat-- spinal tap style spoof of hip hop culture from the early 90s. . . one of the funniest movies ever made, IMO. . .

[King87]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Clearly it wasn't given what I was responding to, Captain Stupid Ho!

[Simple Jaded]

Clearly it wasn't given what I was responding to, Captain Stupid Ho!

Pouty ho!

[King87]

Pouty ho!

I'm retiring.

[Simple Jaded]

I'm retiring.

You don’t have to put on the red light.

[King87]

You don’t have to put on the red light.

Roxanne!

[dogfish]

You don’t have to put on the red light.

king don't like the red. . .

[Canmore]

Lol this guy still making ignorant post even though he’s been proven wrong time after time after time. I’m not even going to bother responding to correct the shit anymore. At this point your just willfully ignorant and don’t even care how crazy you sound.

*you're

Try a mirror.

[King87]

king don't like the red. . .
I’m protesting the red!

Rooooxanne!

[Simple Jaded]

I think the current org structure sees potential in lock and will see what Hackett can do with him. It was Fangio/Shurmur that had problems with Lock. I do expect him to be on the roster come TC, the current OC and staff has alluded to positive things about lock. I don't think he is there plan A by any means nor should he be at this point. Its probably Rodgers, Wilson, Watson. Then they probably have their guy in the draft to work with. I think lock only becomes a viable starting option if the coaches like what they see this off-season from him, and there is no guarantee there.
*scoffs*

*thei’re

[Simple Jaded]

These are fine takes, but I'm looking for objective incorrectness. Your stance noted above is as valid of a take as the one Buff was quoted in. I'm more looking to the past as J-Ham seemed to be implying, at the very least, a long track record of derpitude (scientific term) from our Buffalo.


Hold my Seltzer.

[aberdien]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1498711401556332558?t=hnB8eo1HLhUgQQ5ohGT27g&s=19

[Simple Jaded]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1498711401556332558?t=hnB8eo1HLhUgQQ5ohGT27g&s=19

I hate you.

[dogfish]

:lol::lol:

[Northman]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1498711401556332558?t=hnB8eo1HLhUgQQ5ohGT27g&s=19

Well, that excludes the 2 QB's on our current roster.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Good thing he has both.

And as far as the draft goes none of them have both let alone one. Loos like we roll with lock or bring back Tebow for the IT factor

[King87]

:confused:

[Buff]

If the organization viewed Lock as a longterm prospect, they wouldn't have treated him as Teddy's backup. They would have named him starter down the stretch, they would have spoken about him differently.

Also, his name would have come up at least once in Paton and Hackett's introductory press conference.

And finally, Hackett keeps emphasizing how he wants an "intelligent" QB, which is not Drew Lock.

I'd be shocked if Drew Lock was on the roster to start training camp.



Lol this guy still making ignorant post even though he’s been proven wrong time after time after time. I’m not even going to bother responding to correct the shit anymore. At this point your just willfully ignorant and don’t even care how crazy you sound.

Was just looking at some old posts.

[dogfish]

savage. . .

[Elevation inc]

Only options this year were go get a big time trade done, roll with lock and finally be done with the charade or draft a rookie and send it. Luckily our GM went big! Now we don't have to worry about QB development for a few years at least. Although its a bit worrisome that Wilson's back up is currently Rypien....:lol:

[Elevation inc]

savage. . .

Got em.....

[Northman]

Was just looking at some old posts.

He's so wrong time and time again its comical.

[BroncoJoe]

LoL:

https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/1503510929119490050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1503510929119490050%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdenver-broncos

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Only options this year were go get a big time trade done, roll with lock and finally be done with the charade or draft a rookie and send it. Luckily our GM went big! Now we don't have to worry about QB development for a few years at least. Although its a bit worrisome that Wilson's back up is currently Rypien....:lol:

What’s wrong with rypien as a back up? He’s the perfect back up really. Super smart guy whose average on the field but picks up and learns offenses like no other!

[King87]

Shoulda kept TBW as a backup. He'd be the perfect backup for you all.

[Hawgdriver]

Shoulda kept TBW as a backup. He'd be the perfect backup for you all.

Even at 6.5m+? I don't like it.

[King87]

Even at 6.5m+? I don't like it.

Paying that much to not have your season end if the starting QB misses a chunk of time = insurance.

And we respect NTL on this site.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Shoulda kept TBW as a backup. He'd be the perfect backup for you all.

Ain’t nobody paying bridgewater no 8 million to be a trashy back up

[King87]

Ain’t nobody paying bridgewater no 8 million to be a trashy back up

He's a GREAT backup!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

He's a GREAT backup!

Lol yeah aight

[King87]

Lol yeah aight

Look what he did in New Orleans. He can come off of the bench and keep you afloat.

[Simple Jaded]

What’s wrong with rypien as a back up? He’s the perfect back up really. Super smart guy whose average on the field but picks up and learns offenses like no other!

I just don’t like his attitude.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Look what he did in New Orleans. He can come off of the bench and keep you afloat.

Kept me afloat?

Lol teddy bridgewater was good and then Got injured all over again. The dude is a weak quarterback no matter what

[King87]

Kept me afloat?

Lol teddy bridgewater was good and then Got injured all over again. The dude is a weak quarterback no matter what

So...you don't remember what he did in New Orleans...gotcha

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I just don’t like his attitude.

Damn I ain’t know rypien had a poor attitude

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

So...you don't remember what he did in New Orleans...gotcha

Yeah he had 5 touchdowns and 1 int

[Simple Jaded]

Damn I ain’t know rypien had a poor attitude

I didn’t say his attitude was poor, I said I just don’t like it.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I didn’t say his attitude was poor, I said I just don’t like it.

Come on dawg

[Simple Jaded]

Come on dawg

Just something about his attitude.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Just something about his attitude.

Like what?

[Simple Jaded]

Like what?

What the French call A certain … I don’t know what.

[Simple Jaded]

Pittsburgh’s SB odds plummeted after signing Tittiess Trubisky.

Seems like just yesterday that you guys were fawning all over him, I’m just glad me and North knew better.

[King87]

Pittsburgh’s SB odds plummeted after signing Tittiess Trubisky.

Seems like just yesterday that you guys were fawning all over him, I’m just glad me and North knew better.

He's a meh get. He has talent and you can spin it that he got hosed in Chicago, etc. He sorta did. But his first year in the league when he looked his best Nagy did a good job hiding his flaws. I just hope we suck and draft a stud.

[Hawgdriver]

What the French call A certain … I don’t know what.

Je na sais quoa fin du monde se la vie?

[dogfish]

Je na sais quoa fin du monde se la vie?

oh, easy for you to say!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

He's a meh get. He has talent and you can spin it that he got hosed in Chicago, etc. He sorta did. But his first year in the league when he looked his best Nagy did a good job hiding his flaws. I just hope we suck and draft a stud.
Lol listening to you make excuses for tribisky is hilarious…….. playing both side’s