Broncos Trading Von Miller to Rams

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1455209342534361100

Wow.

[BroncoWave]

What.

[BroncoWave]

Man, this is really, really painful. I get that we're rebuilding and it makes sense, but he is by far my second favorite Bronco of all time. I wanted him to finish his career here. This sucks.

[Northman]

Knew it was coming.

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/251703972_296283085830517_2182031478633615494_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=0h1ia3FrwiMAX-pWu2L&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=2967933daab4467fd121eb6440dc87e3&oe=61A71C4F

[BroncoJoe]

Damn.

Maybe this is why Paton got a sweet deal for Young?

I was worried this could happen because they held him out yesterday.

[BroncoWave]

Got a second and third rounder for him. Definitely stockpiling ammo to trade up if there's a QB we really like in the draft.

[Northman]

I dont mind the move, we are going nowhere and the Rams have a chance to win a SB this year. I want to see Von go out on top.

[dogfish]

Son of a bitch!

[NightTrainLayne]

Goddammit.

[BroncoWave]

Also, how the hell can the Rams also afford to add his contract?

[BroncoWave]

Also, how the hell can the Rams also afford to add his contract?

Oh, that's how.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1455211524813905927?t=mqZRSmMpRPnYkxZZPvNu8Q&s=19

[BroncoJoe]

Also, how the hell can the Rams also afford to add his contract?

104.3 The Fan just stated the Broncos are paying $9M of his $9.7M left on the contract.

[Northman]

All of sudden Von's health will improve by weeks end to start playing again. Lol

[Bronco9798]

Actually, a good move. I like it.

[Northman]

Also explains why Von was dancing on the sidelines yesterday.

[LawDog]

So that’s how you quit on a season…
Sigh.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Good for Von… and Aaron Donald. Those dudes are gonna be a nightmare. The Rams’ already good chances of going to the SB just went up.

I hope Von wins another ring with the Rams this year. :salute:

[BroncoWave]

Once we're officially out, I'll be pulling for the Rams this postseason (suck it Shane!). Would love to see him get another ring. He deserves it.

[Buff]

This is the correct take... As I've been saying, it's time...

https://twitter.com/Tyler_Polumbus/status/1455212494226604034

[Northman]

Once we're officially out, I'll be pulling for the Rams this postseason (suck it Shane!). Would love to see him get another ring. He deserves it.

Oh, Denver is out you just havent come to terms with it yet. But yea, SUCK IT SHANE. GO Rams! GO VON!

[EastCoastBronco]

Well that sucks.
Hope we don't have to play the Rams in the Super Bowl this year.
That defence is going to be a handful.

[BroncoJoe]

I remain optimistic about Paton as our GM. Maybe even more now.

[BroncoWave]

This is the correct take... As I've been saying, it's time...

https://twitter.com/Tyler_Polumbus/status/1455212494226604034

I said yesterday Paton isn't dumb and isn't going to be fooled by this win. This definitely confirms it though.

My favorite thing about his hire was the we got an outside guy who won't be beholden to any of the players we currently have. It's good to have the fresh perspective. Now we have to cash in on these picks.

[Bronco4ever]

Sucks but it’s the right move for Von and the Broncos.

[Chillez]

The end of an era. Thanks for everything Von now go win the Super Bowl. I’ll be rooting for the Rams now out in the NFC.

[BroncoWave]

Oh, Denver is out you just havent come to terms with it yet. But yea, SUCK IT SHANE. GO Rams! GO VON!

Can we please make this a Rams fan forum the rest of the year just to troll Shane into the shadow realm.

[MasterShake]

Hate to lose him, but he had a year left with us tops and he deserves a better shot. Good move by Paton by realizing that even though we still in it "mathematically" in the standings and in some fans hearts, we are not close realistically. We need to worry about who is going to be here long term right now and get as much as we can for those who won't be. Plus I think Von is in the Demarcus Ware part of his career so good for him.

[Northman]

Can we please make this a Rams fan forum the rest of the year just to troll Shane into the shadow realm.

Shane must be in total misery this Monday, first Denver wins and now Von goes to the team he hates the most. Lol

[Chillez]

I hate to say this but its a great deal for both teams. Broncos get 2nd and 3rd round pick great trade good value. Denver was going nowhere this year Von might as well end his career on Super Bowl Contender than end his career in this mess.

[Chillez]

Von Miller outside of Peyton Manning has been the greatest Bronco player in the past decade. I’ll miss him a lot but I’m really happy for him sucks Von and Chubb never accomplished more together as a pass rush duo I expect so much more like most people that’s my biggest regret here as Von got older the duo that never happened due to injuries to both players it’s sucks I guess it just wasn’t meant to be.

[BroncoWave]

This is the correct take... As I've been saying, it's time...

https://twitter.com/Tyler_Polumbus/status/1455212494226604034

Boy is there egg on your face from what you were saying last week about the two minor trades Paton made for linebackers!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Wow I’m really sad about this but he deserves to play for somebody who has a shot at a ring I suppose…… damn bruh

[Buff]

Boy is there egg on your face from what you were saying last week about the two minor trades Paton made for linebackers!

Yes I am very embarrassed that Paton is doing exactly what I have been advocating for several weeks now!

[BroncoWave]

Also, I guess that I forgot that this was the last year of his contract. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for a guy who only had 9 games left here anyway is a steal.

[BroncoJoe]

Gonna be scary in LA!

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1455213088735645701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455213088735645701%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdenver-broncos

[BroncoWave]

Yes I am very embarrassed that Paton is doing exactly what I have been advocating for several weeks now!

You need to wallow in your shame for being such a drama queen last week!

[Chillez]

Gonna be scary in LA!

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1455213088735645701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455213088735645701%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdenver-broncos

Big time! Go Rams! Hahaha

[chazoe60]

My son is gonna be crushed. Just yesterday he was telling me he hopes they don't trade him because "Von is my John Elway"

[Traveler]

Now watch how the Rams correctly use Miller’s talent. Great to see Paton begin the true rebuild of the team and giving Von another chance at a SB. Fuller should be next to recupe some of the salary cap used for Miller’s salary.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

It’s time to move on from teddy as well. Time to play the young guys and see exactly what we have to continue building on.

[Ziggy]

As much as I hate to see the Von era end in Denver, this was a great move by Paton. The chances of Von coming back next season were slim to none. This team isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Eat the salary and get the 2nd and 3rd round picks. Time to move Fuller, KJ, and a couple of others as well.

[D1g1tal j1m]

I appreciate all the things Von has done for this franchise, but I agree with the move to acquire any picks for him. He’s a shell of his former self and the last few years, injuries and Father Time has sapped his other worldly gifts. He will return as a both a ROF and HOF. Best of luck to him on his post-Broncos career.
Now let’s move on from Vang and this terrible coaching staff and start the young bloods. Next trade will be Melvin, Fuller and Jackson.

[BroncoWave]

I appreciate all the things Von has done for this franchise, but I agree with the move to acquire any picks for him. He’s a shell of his former self and the last few years, injuries and Father Time has sapped his other worldly gifts. He will return as a both a ROF and HOF. Best of luck to him on his post-Broncos career.
Now let’s move on from Vang and this terrible coaching staff and start the young bloods. Next trade will be Melvin, Fuller and Jackson.

Gordon to the Titans makes a ton of sense. We need to be on the phone with them now.

[Chillez]

As much as I hate to see the Von era end in Denver, this was a great move by Paton. The chances of Von coming back next season were slim to none. This team isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Eat the salary and get the 2nd and 3rd round picks. Time to move Fuller, KJ, and a couple of others as well.

Agreed well said 100%. Great move by George Paton Denver is lucky to have a good GM again.

[Buff]

You need to wallow in your shame for being such a drama queen last week!

1.) I have zero regrets about advocating for a rebuild last week!

2.) Let's wait and see if we retain either player - if they both walk in free agency then the moves actually look that much sillier in hindsight.

[Northman]

Now watch how the Rams correctly use Miller’s talent. Great to see Paton begin the true rebuild of the team and giving Von another chance at a SB. Fuller should be next to recupe some of the salary cap used for Miller’s salary.

I can guarantee Von wont be covering the opponents best receiver. Lol

[BroncoWave]

1.) I have zero regrets about advocating for a rebuild last week!

2.) Let's wait and see if we retain either player - if they both walk in free agency then the moves actually look that much sillier in hindsight.

You aren't being shamed for advocating for a rebuild last week, silly! You're being shamed for acting like those moves proved that Paton was still trying to win now and that he didn't want to rebuild. That's very clearly not the case since we won and still dealt Von. They probably had this trade agreed to last week and the lb they sent was the first part of it.

Shame buff, shame!

[Chillez]

I can guarantee Von wont be covering the opponents best receiver. Lol

Ain’t that the truth lol

[Buff]

You aren't being shamed for advocating for a rebuild last week, silly! You're being shamed for acting like those moves proved that Paton was still trying to win now and that he didn't want to rebuild. That's very clearly not the case since we won and still dealt Von. They probably had this trade agreed to last week and the lb they sent was the first part of it.

Shame buff, shame!

Again, if we don't retain either player, then they were dumb win-now moves and they are players who fit in a scheme that might not be around next year.

They also may prove to be sensible auditions for future contributors -- but there was reason to be skeptical last week! I remain skeptical, though this move certainly assuages a lot of my fears about Paton's mindset.

[BroncoWave]

Again, if we don't retain either player, then they were dumb win-now moves and they are players who fit in a scheme that might not be around next year.

They also may prove to be sensible auditions for future contributors -- but there was reason to be skeptical last week! I remain skeptical, though this move certainly assuages a lot of my fears about Paton's mindset.

I'm still going to spike the football in your face for how our takes last week both aged. You aren't going to take away my joy!

[Devilspawn]

A healthy Von and Aaron Donald, with the way Stafford is playing, makes them favorites to knock off the Bucs and put an end to this Cardinals stuff.

As a Raider fan, he's probably the best Bronco player rival I've witnessed, at least top 3. Good luck to him.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Again, if we don't retain either player, then they were dumb win-now moves and they are players who fit in a scheme that might not be around next year.

They also may prove to be sensible auditions for future contributors -- but there was reason to be skeptical last week! I remain skeptical, though this move certainly assuages a lot of my fears about Paton's mindset.

Smh they were never win now move’s! More like we have damn near nothing left at LB and there’s a pretty solid guy available so let’s go get them! Now we trade Miller for a 2nd and 3rd so any doubt should be removed……. Paton has always had his eyes in the future. Now he needs to demand that teddy is benched so we can see what Lock has king forward

[Tom Nalen]

Von is going to finish with 20 sacks this year...he was playing his ass off this season with no interior push. Broncos are a basement franchise. I cant believe Fangio and Shurmur outlasted Von here. I hate these two more than I ever hated McDaniels

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I can guarantee Von wont be covering the opponents best receiver. Lol

Are you saying that the rams won’t be taking Fangio idea of running Miller out there against Mike evans in the playoffs?

[Eddiemac87]

Wow….sad…but he and Arron Donald? Gotta watch more rams football this year I guess…

Von Miller :salute::salute:

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Von is going to finish with 20 sacks this year...he was playing his ass off this season with no interior push. Broncos are a basement franchise. I cant believe Fangio and Shurmur outlasted Von here. I hate these two more than I ever hated McDaniels

Agreed my hate for Fangio and shurmer is boiling!!!!!! I cannot stand Fangio and shurmer man

[Tom Nalen]

Also we could have had a healthy stafford as well but Paton said no...I promise you our receivers would not have been injured. **** this team and **** this franchise

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Wow….sad…but he and Arron Donald? Gotta watch more rams football this year I guess…

Man Von and Donald is going to be terrorizing for offense’s. Von will finally get to play opposite of a guy who demands a double team and wreck’s havoc on team’s. The last time we seen Von play with a guy of this caliber was Demarcus ware and we know how that ended up! The often injured/ underachieving Chubb never gave Von what he needed but Donald surely will

[Tebowtime2011]

I love this move!! Not for the Broncos, as I hate to see one of my favorite players ever leave Milehigh. But to see him go to a team with as much potential as the Rams? I love it!! I hope he knocks Brady out of the playoffs again. I hope his ankle is ready to go. I can’t wait to see him shine.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Also we could have had a healthy stafford as well but Paton said no...I promise you our receivers would not have been injured. **** this team and **** this franchise

Lol relax Tom

[Nomad]

Sucks to hear, but I believe the writing was on the wall he was on his way out. Thanks for being a Bronco, Von. Good luck with the Rams.

[Tom Nalen]

Lol relax Tom

Nah **** this team lol...low key this is the least I've wanted to watch this team since ever. Tell me the score against the cowboys isn't going to be 49-7 next week

[BroncoWave]

Also we could have had a healthy stafford as well but Paton said no...I promise you our receivers would not have been injured. **** this team and **** this franchise

We were never contenders for Stafford. You were lied to by the media on that. Stafford and McVay were vacationing together in February and agreed to the trade then. The lions weren't going to ship Stafford somewhere he didn't want to go. Just get the idea out of your head that we ever had a shot at Stafford.

[Chillez]

Also we could have had a healthy stafford as well but Paton said no...I promise you our receivers would not have been injured. **** this team and **** this franchise

Chill out man. Relax everything is going to be okay..

[SmilinAssasSin27]

And the peasants rejoiced...

[BroncoBeavis]

Nah **** this team lol...low key this is the least I've wanted to watch this team since ever. Tell me the score against the cowboys isn't going to be 49-7 next week

First you tell me if Dak is playing. :)

[BroncoJoe]

Gordon to the Titans makes a ton of sense. We need to be on the phone with them now.

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1455191771936395279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455191771936395279%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fmore%2Ftop-stories%2Fnfl-world-reacts-monday-adrian-peterson-news

[Simple Jaded]

**** Paton.

[Tbolt]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Effing loser franchise. Von deserved to wear one jersey his entire career. This is how bottom feeders do it.

Granted Fangio WASTED Von not allowing him to do what he does best, but dammit. Never should have come to this.

[BroncoWave]

**** Paton.

Explain.

[Tbolt]

Explain.

It begins with insertion.

[Tebowtime2011]

And the peasants rejoiced...

After the B.S. this team pulled yesterday, I can’t help but rejoice. He gets to play for a team with competent coaching again. I hope he plays great. Nothing about the Broncos excites me anymore this year, but watching Von in the playoffs again is gonna give me a team to root for while watching in December.

[BroncoWave]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Effing loser franchise. Von deserved to wear one jersey his entire career. This is how bottom feeders do it.

Granted Fangio WASTED Von not allowing him to do what he does best, but dammit. Never should have come to this.

He was not coming back in free agency this summer. Getting those picks for him is incredible from Paton.

[BroncoWave]

It begins with insertion.

Oooooooohhhhhhh! That's how it works!

[Simple Jaded]

Explain.

This is a family message board.

[BroncoWave]

This is a family message board.

It's ok tbolt already explained it to me!

[Tebowtime2011]

It begins with insertion.

No Vaseline?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Nah **** this team lol...low key this is the least I've wanted to watch this team since ever. Tell me the score against the cowboys isn't going to be 49-7 next week

We’ll lose but not 49-7 lol…… isn’t dam Prescott injured?

But yeah we have no shot aslong as teddy and shurmer is the duo.

[Chillez]

He was not coming back in free agency this summer. Getting those picks for him is incredible from Paton.

This pretty much sums it up. I’m not sure why most don’t see this and the writing on the wall it was time for both parties to move on.

[R8R H8R]

No one wants Von to go, but for the people having a meltdown, you have to face reality. This is not a playoff team, far from it. Von is a FA in 2022 that obviously will have much more value to a contending team than a rebuilding one. Do you really want to pay $20+ million for Von next year when he’s proven he can’t help THIS team win any longer?

Any comp pick would not help us until 2023, and it would be a 3rd at most. A 2nd & 3rd in 2022 is an absolute steal for a guy with just a handful of months left on his contract. Von goes to a contending team, and Paton has more ammo next year for a QB.

[Hawgdriver]

This sucks big time, but what feels absolutely fuggin great is how well Paton was able to do Von a solid while making a good GM move. Von and Stafford on the same team with McVay and Donald...

This also sheds a lot more color on the vibe of the team recently...I'm sure there was some chatter, and when you chatter about trading the franchise player, it means something. Why Fangio and Shurmur have been so listless.

Maybe.

Well, Von, been a helluva ride dude. Makes me sad to think it's the end of an era, it does. But I'm also happy for the start of his new career on a SB type team, and happy for the Paton era to begin in earnest.

[Simple Jaded]

We’ll lose but not 49-7 lol…… isn’t dam Prescott injured?

But yeah we have no shot aslong as teddy and shurmer is the duo.
Broncos will be 10-7.

[Tbolt]

We’ll lose but not 49-7 lol…… isn’t dam Prescott injured?

But yeah we have no shot aslong as teddy and shurmer is the duo.

Watch, we beat the Cowboys and Eagles and head into the bye at 6-4 and in first place in the AFCW. That would be a very Broncos thing to do.

[Northman]

Are you saying that the rams won’t be taking Fangio idea of running Miller out there against Mike evans in the playoffs?

Yes, im saying that.

[Gyldenlove]

It is a good trade. Rams 2nd and 3rd, which is basically a 3rd and 4th, and Von gets to try for another super bowl which he deserves.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

No one wants Von to go, but for the people having a meltdown, you have to face reality. This is not a playoff team, far from it. Von is a FA in 2022 that obviously will have much more value to a contending team than a rebuilding one. Do you really want to pay $20+ million for Von next year when he’s proven he can’t help THIS team win any longer?

Any comp pick would not help us until 2023, and it would be a 3rd at most. A 2nd & 3rd in 2022 is an absolute steal for a guy with just a handful of months left on his contract. Von goes to a contending team, and Paton has more ammo next year for a QB.

These picks need to be used to bolster the OL and LB position’s. The broncos won’t have to trade away anything to draft one of these quarterbacks. Chances are you’ll get one that you like without having to do all that because nobody seems excited about this class of guy’s.

[Nomad]

This sucks big time, but what feels absolutely fuggin great is how well Paton was able to do Von a solid while making a good GM move. Von and Stafford on the same team with McVay and Donald...

This also sheds a lot more color on the vibe of the team recently...I'm sure there was some chatter, and when you chatter about trading the franchise player, it means something. Why Fangio and Shurmur have been so listless.

Maybe.

Well, Von, been a helluva ride dude. Makes me sad to think it's the end of an era, it does. But I'm also happy for the start of his new career on a SB type team, and happy for the Paton era to begin in earnest.

Von will fit in well with the Rams. He’ll probably be rejuvenated going to a damn good team. I hope the best for him.

[Simple Jaded]

This is also on Fangio, I bet he’s pleased with the move.

If Von Miller doesn’t fit your system the problem is your system.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Broncos will be 10-7.

Noway dude

[Northman]

We’ll lose but not 49-7 lol…… isn’t dam Prescott injured?

But yeah we have no shot aslong as teddy and shurmer is the duo.

Dog gone dam he is.

[Tbolt]

Von will fit in well with the Rams. He’ll probably be rejuvenated going to a damn good team. I hope the best for him.

He didn't need to be 'rejuvenated' he just needed to be turned loose. Fangios read first defense was always a waste of his talents. Had we done the smart thing and hired a real HC it never would have come to this.

[BroncoWave]

This is also on Fangio, I bet he’s pleased with the move.

If Von Miller doesn’t fit your system the problem is your system.

Do you think Von was going to choose to re-sign here this offseason?

[Northman]

He didn't need to be 'rejuvenated' he just needed to be turned loose. Fangios read first defense was always a waste of his talents. Had we done the smart thing and hired a real HC it never would have come to this.

Fangio doesnt know how to use talent, he's a moron.

[R8R H8R]

Also, how do you all know Von isn’t down with this? Very possible Von already knew he wouldn’t be coming back next year unless the Broncos proved to be on their way to contention. After the past month, he knows his time is done here. Now he gets to legitimately chase a ring.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Watch, we beat the Cowboys and Eagles and head into the bye at 6-4 and in first place in the AFCW. That would be a very Broncos thing to do.

I don’t know if we beat the cowboys and eagles with Teddy……. We shouldn’t even have won vs the lousy skins but they just didn’t want the W. The broncos will likely lose the next two games and aslong as Fangio and shurmer aren’t fired we’re going to stay the course totally wasting 9 games of seeing what Lock has this year.

This trade of Miller should be telling Fangio and shurmer that he (Paton) doesn’t like what they have going and that he feels this team is rebuilding. So when the **** are they going to bench teddy?

[Tom Nalen]

No one wants Von to go, but for the people having a meltdown, you have to face reality. This is not a playoff team, far from it. Von is a FA in 2022 that obviously will have much more value to a contending team than a rebuilding one. Do you really want to pay $20+ million for Von next year when he’s proven he can’t help THIS team win any longer?

Any comp pick would not help us until 2023, and it would be a 3rd at most. A 2nd & 3rd in 2022 is an absolute steal for a guy with just a handful of months left on his contract. Von goes to a contending team, and Paton has more ammo next year for a QB.

I guess I'm also pissed about the optics...hold him out for a game...then it seems that he was traded and didn't know he was going to the rams. Also, fangio has been blindly disrespecting Von since he's come here in the media and on the field. Good for Von though, he's gonna eat. Imagine having Leonard Floyd, Von Miller, and Aaron Donald on the same defensive front. And oh yah Jalen Ramsey. Love the way the Rams front office built that team. Teams over value draft picks....

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

This is also on Fangio, I bet he’s pleased with the move.

If Von Miller doesn’t fit your system the problem is your system.

I highly doubt anyone thought Von didn’t fit the system…… Fangio is just an idiot

[Simple Jaded]

Do you think Von was going to choose to re-sign here this offseason?

Why not?

[Nomad]

He didn't need to be 'rejuvenated' he just needed to be turned loose. Fangios read first defense was always a waste of his talents. Had we done the smart thing and hired a real HC it never would have come to this.

I believe Von was mentally done in a way. It happens to the best. A change of scenery was probably needed for him.

[R8R H8R]

Can we trade Shurmur to the Lions, and give them a 7th round pick?

[Tom Nalen]

Exactly..even with VJ Von was waaaaay faster...once Fangio came it seemed like Von was always thinking out there and not using his talent

[BroncoWave]

I guess I'm also pissed about the optics...hold him out for a game...then it seems that he was traded and didn't know he was going to the rams. Also, fangio has been blindly disrespecting Von since he's come here in the media and on the field. Good for Von though, he's gonna eat. Imagine having Leonard Floyd, Von Miller, and Aaron Donald on the same defensive front. And oh yah Jalen Ramsey. Love the way the Rams front office built that team. Teams over value draft picks....

What the Rams are doing is a massive gamble. If it gets them a ring, great strategy. But if it doesn't, they are screwed for a long time. I don't hate the strat, but it's not one that's going to set them up for a long run of success.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Also, how do you all know Von isn’t down with this. Very possible Von already knew he wouldn’t be coming back next year unless the Broncos proved to be on their way to contention. After the past month, he knows his time is done here. Now he gets to legitimately chase a ring.

I don’t think Von is chasing anything, he’s a super bowl MVP. Von just wanted to finish his career winning competing and obviously that wasn’t going to happen this year with Fangio

[Nomad]

He didn't need to be 'rejuvenated' he just needed to be turned loose. Fangios read first defense was always a waste of his talents. Had we done the smart thing and hired a real HC it never would have come to this.

The business side of the NFL always catches up with teams.

[BroncoJoe]

https://twitter.com/ComplexSports/status/1455210613563609097

[BroncoWave]

Why not?

Because this isn't a fairy tale and players aren't dedicated to their teams like fans are?

[Simple Jaded]

Because this isn't a fairy tale and players aren't dedicated to their teams like fans are?

You!

[BroncoWave]

You!

I know you love you some fairy tales though!

[kenoy28]

https://twitter.com/Melvingordon25/status/1455209466748563459

Melvin's not happy. Best response to the tweet, "Glad you didn't fumble your phone tweeting your reaction" lol

Edit: I don't know how to embed tweets on here

[Jsteve01]

I understand the business side but this sucks. Is this karma for rubbing the DeMarcus ware signing in all my Coboy friends faces? I think so

[Helios]

Sad to see Von go - he was one of the last remaining champions on this team.
Hopefully they get good players from the picks.

[BroncoJoe]

https://twitter.com/RyanKoenigsberg/status/1455212730319876101

[Northman]

Von will forever be remembered for destroying Cam Newton's career and im proud of that fact.

[Mozzafiato]

Now let’s get picks from NO for Bridgewater.

[underrated29]

Now let’s get picks from NO for Bridgewater.

This would make up for the entire season of suckiness! I will send patrick with him to sweaten the deal

[dogfish]

Trade deadline is tomorrow. Paton better be burning up the phones.

[R8R H8R]

Some of you are acting like this is the equivalent of Belicheat dumping Brady. I assure you, it is not.

[Mozzafiato]

This also explains why the Rams gave Young to the Broncos for so cheap. That was basically part of this trade.

[Simple Jaded]

Some of you are acting like this is the equivalent of Belicheat dumping Brady. I assure you, it is not.

No, it’s the equivalent of dumping the Broncos version of John Elway on defense. . .I assure you, it ******* is.

[BroncoJoe]

https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/1455234466691969025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455234466691969025%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.broncosboard.com%2Fnode% 2F13254%2Fpage2

Where's the tissue?

[Northman]

Von is a class act.

[R8R H8R]

No, it’s the equivalent of dumping the Broncos version of John Elway on defense. . .I assure you, it ******* is.

He is no longer that person, and hasn’t been for some time, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you can come back to reality.

[Hawgdriver]

Von is a class act.

I'mma miss that chicken-farming cowboy.

[Simple Jaded]

He is no longer that person, and hasn’t been for some time, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you can come back to reality.

Where did I say he was the same guy he was in SB 50? I said he’s the Broncos defense version of John Elway, as in being a Broncos legend, that’s reality.

**** your lecture.

[BroncoJoe]

I'mma miss that chicken-farming cowboy.

Good point! What happens to the chickens? The CHICKENS?????!!!!!!

[Simple Jaded]

This mother******!

[Strafen]

https://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/1455234466691969025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455234466691969025%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.broncosboard.com%2Fnode% 2F13254%2Fpage2

Where's the tissue?Classy guy right there. Von the greatest defensive playe in franchise history. We will miss you buddy, and I will always be rooting for you!
Thanks for the great memories.
Super bowl L forever!!!

[BroncoWave]

No, it’s the equivalent of dumping the Broncos version of John Elway on defense. . .I assure you, it ******* is.

Sentimentality is for losers! Von wasn't coming back regardless. Accept that.

[Simple Jaded]

Sentimentality is for losers! Von wasn't coming back regardless. Accept that.

You convince yourself of what you want and I’ll convince myself of what I want.

[BroncoWave]

You convince yourself of what you want and I’ll convince myself of what I want.

Ok I'll be over here in reality while you're convincing yourself fairytales are real.

[Hawgdriver]

Good point! What happens to the chickens? The CHICKENS?????!!!!!!

http://escapelodging.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Chickens-on-the-Beach.jpg

[R8R H8R]

Yup. Von knew all along just as I suspected. Remember, Paton offered him a restructure deal during offseason that he refused. If he really wanted to be a Bronco for life, he would’ve accepted the deal with extension and bonuses.
https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/1455234286970417155?s=21.

[EastCoastBronco]

Chickens are dope.

[BroncoWave]

Yup. Von knew all along just as I suspected. Remember, Paton offered him a restructure deal during offseason that he refused. If he really wanted to be a Bronco for life, he would’ve accepted the deal with extension, and bonuses.
https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/1455234286970417155?s=21.

There you go. Jaded's fairytale evaporated. He wanted out, we obliged. And it makes the trade for that rams LB last week make way more sense.

[R8R H8R]

Where did I say he was the same guy he was in SB 50? I said he’s the Broncos defense version of John Elway, as in being a Broncos legend, that’s reality.

**** your lecture.

Lol.

[King87]

My NFC team, the rams, are gambling. Denver made a great move - that type of haul for nine games? Solid doesn’t begin to describe it.

The broncs can afford the nine million this year on the deal, and LA gets a shot at another pass rusher with juice left.

What a time.

[Strafen]

Yup. Von knew all along just as I suspected. Remember, Paton offered him a restructure deal during offseason that he refused. If he really wanted to be a Bronco for life, he would’ve accepted the deal with extension, and bonuses.
https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/1455234286970417155?s=21.
That’s very classy and very nice of the Broncos brass to have met with Von in person.
That was awesome!
Mad respect for that!

[Tebowtime2011]

It’s great value for a guy with 9 games left on his contract. Does it excite me? No b/c it doesn’t change a damn thing without a real head coach and a QB. Ship Gordon off next to the Titans. It’ll be 2 huge blows to the locker room but I’ve seen enough of this team to know this season can’t be redeemed.

[Northman]

To be honest in the modern NFL players dont often retire with the teams they started with or had SB success with. Favre ended his career elsewhere, Brady most likely will end his in Tampa. Had Elway played in recent years he most likely would have been allowed to walk or traded elsewhere. Its just not the same as it was in the 90's and past decades. As with the interview with Von he will most likely retire a Bronco and come back to be honored in the Ring of Fame when all is said and done. Im sure he understands this is all business and not personal.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

My NFC team, the rams, are gambling. Denver made a great move - that type of haul for nine games? Solid doesn’t begin to describe it.

The broncs can afford the nine million this year on the deal, and LA gets a shot at another pass rusher with juice left.

What a time.

Your NFC team? Wow king your fanhood was already questionable and now you just reveal that you root for teams like a…………….

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Farewell to Von though I was sad for a minute but Von was as good as gone next year so I’ll take the draft picks, time to trade Patrick, fuller, Kareem and Callahan

[R8R H8R]

There you go. Jaded's fairytale evaporated. He wanted out, we obliged. And it makes the trade for that rams LB last week make way more sense.

Yes, I forgot about that guy, so it makes sense it was part of the deal. Von was allegedly ready to go yesterday, but held out. Now we know why, but I guess I don’t understand why they didn’t just do the deal last week. Maybe haggling over comp & how much Broncos pay his salary?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

And teddy bridgewater

[BroncoWave]

Yes, I forgot about that guy, so it makes sense it was part of the deal. Von was allegedly ready to go yesterday, but held out. Now we know why, but I guess I don’t understand why they didn’t just do the deal last week. Maybe haggling over comp & how much Broncos pay his salary?

I think it's because he wouldn't have passed the physical last week.

[Hawgdriver]

Yes, I forgot about that guy, so it makes sense it was part of the deal. Von was allegedly ready to go yesterday, but held out. Now we know why, but I guess I don’t understand why they didn’t just do the deal last week. Maybe haggling over comp & how much Broncos pay his salary?

Negotiating terms and numbers, no doubt.

[Hawgdriver]

I think it's because he wouldn't have passed the physical last week.

I wonder. Part of me immediately thought that was to limit his snaps and keep the trade alive--risk management.

[R8R H8R]

That’s very classy and very nice of the Broncos brass to have met with Von in person.
That was awesome!
Mad respect for that!

Yes. Both sides are perfectly fine with this, and understand it’s time to part ways.

[Northman]

Your NFC team? Wow king your fanhood was already questionable and now you just reveal that you root for teams like a…………….

Or he is just a football fan.

Some Bronco fans on this board admittedly only watch Bronco games and when the season is over they move to something else. I like watching Bronco games (although they pain me) but i also love the sport and game itself so i can watch any team and root for ones i like and root against teams i dislike. King has let it known he really likes Stafford so its no surprise that he is a Rams homer right now.

[BroncoWave]

I wonder. Part of me immediately thought that was to limit his snaps and keep the trade alive--risk management.

I saw someone tweet his injury might have delayed them being about to finalize the trade a bit. Makes sense. Don't want to risk that making the trade fall through.

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Or he is just a football fan.

Some Bronco fans on this board admittedly only watch Bronco games and when the season is over they move to something else. I like watching Bronco games (although they pain me) but i also love the sport and game itself so i can watch any team and root for ones i like and root against teams i dislike. King has let it known he really likes Stafford so its no surprise that he is a Rams homer right now.

No it’s not about only watching broncos games….. I watch a lot of games….

But when your a bengals fan and then a broncos fan and then a Steelers fan and then you have a NFC team as well your pretty much a joke of a fan. And I like king but he’d definitely be the guy at my job that everybody clowns for being a weaker fan or we’d just view em the way we view women who always has a different team or multiple team’s and won’t take him/her serious at all. It’s just the way it is

[Northman]

So Jaded, do you hate Von now?

[BroncoBeavis]

Or he is just a football fan.

Some Bronco fans on this board admittedly only watch Bronco games and when the season is over they move to something else. I like watching Bronco games (although they pain me) but i also love the sport and game itself so i can watch any team and root for ones i like and root against teams i dislike. King has let it known he really likes Stafford so its no surprise that he is a Rams homer right now.

I'll watch most NFL teams at one point or another depending on what games are available.

But there is and will only ever be one 'my' team.

[King87]

Is Abe okay?

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

I'll watch most NFL teams at one point or another depending on what games are available.

But there is and will only ever be one 'my' team.

Absolutely

[Northman]

No it’s not about only watching broncos games….. I watch a lot of games….

But when your a bengals fan and then a broncos fan and then a Steelers fan and then you have a NFC team as well your pretty much a joke of a fan. And I like king but he’d definitely be the guy at my job that everybody clowns for being a weaker fan or we’d just view em the way we view women who always has a different team or multiple team’s.


Ive known King a long time and he isnt a joke of a fan. He was a Bengal fan for a long time and as easy as it would be for him to jump back on the Bengals bandwagon he hasnt done that. Not sure why he wanted to be a Steeler fan but he wasnt accepted as a Bronco fan with people such as yourself insulting him like this. I just dont understand the animosity towards him, he argues his points well when he debates and likes the game of football in totality.

I started out as a Cowboys fan when i was young then in 82' became a Bronco fan which ive been for 35+ years. And to be honest after last year i seriously thought of not being one anymore (same with Virginia on the college level) but ultimately i just relaxed and quit taking the sport so seriously. Ive grown to appreciate the things this franchise has accomplished that many other organizations (Bengals) have not. Its easy to chastise someone for switching teams when you are a fan of a team that has had it much better as a franchise than others.

People always bust my balls about my Tom Brady love or that i rooted for the Pats or Bucs in the SB's against the teams they faced. I DONT GIVE A ****. I love the sport and like certain players on teams while hating other teams and franchises. I will never root for an AFC rival to win a SB, ever. But i have no problem putting my support behind the Saints when they played Indy, or the Cardinals when they played the Steelers. Who cares that a football fan supports another team even if its not the team they love? Makes no sense to be derogatory about that.

[R8R H8R]

I now have another reason to root for the Rams this season. If Von can help the Rams keep TB from the SB this year, I’ll be on team Rams.

[Chillez]

Go Rams! I’ll be rooting for them hard the rest of the way.

[King87]

Or he is just a football fan.

Some Bronco fans on this board admittedly only watch Bronco games and when the season is over they move to something else. I like watching Bronco games (although they pain me) but i also love the sport and game itself so i can watch any team and root for ones i like and root against teams i dislike. King has let it known he really likes Stafford so its no surprise that he is a Rams homer right now.

I also have been openly rooting for the Rams as a NFC team for five or six years. Kinda like how a lot of Denver fans rooted or root for the Cardinals because they’re in Arizona/lived there. FFS, I used to go to Rams games when they were in STL because it’s less than two hours away from me. The stadium that is.

But yes, the addition of Sta

[underrated29]

I also have been openly rooting for the Rams as a NFC team for five or six years. Kinda like how a lot of Denver fans rooted or root for the Cardinals because they’re in Arizona/lived there. FFS, I used to go to Rams games when they were in STL because it’s less than two hours away from me. The stadium that is.

But yes, the addition of Sta


Hey you are allowed to be a rams nfc fan and a Broncos AFC fan.

I am a saints NFC fan and a Broncos AFC fan.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The face of the franchise has been traded.

The Broncos sent All-Pro linebacker Von Miller to the Los Angeles Rams on Monday, one day ahead of the trade deadline, in exchange for second- and third-round picks in 2022, according to a league source.

The trade won’t be officially announced until Miller, who missed Sunday’s win over Washington with an ankle injury, passes a physical and signs the required paperwork with the Rams. The deal was finalized ahead of Tuesday’s 2 p.m. deadline.

“This was a surprise,” Miller told reporters outside the team facility. “You see (trade rumors) in the media, every year for the last four years, I’ve seen it. But it’s hard to grip with reality sometimes. This team, they’re going to start winning soon. We’ve got a lot of great players and a lot of great coaches here, and the staff is amazing. I wanted to be a part of it to fix it, but you’ve just got to keep moving.”

Miller added: “I had a lot of beautiful years here, a lot of great memories, a lot of great teammates, a lot of great coaches, a lot of great fans. I’ll never forget all of those people.”

AND


Miller met individually this morning at the Broncos’ facility with general manager George Paton, coach Vic Fangio, president/CEO Joe Ellis and president of football operations John Elway.

rest - https://www.denverpost.com/2021/11/01/broncos-trade-von-miller-rams/

[kenoy28]

Interesting conflicting reports about them talking to Von ahead of time. Schefter was on the Fan and said that both Von and his agent didn't know and felt a little blindsided and shocked.

[OrangeHoof]

So is this the deal that sets up a future trade for Deshaun Watson? Texans give up Watson for Broncos' #1 and #2 in 2022, #1 in 2023, Lock, Sutton and Sartain.

[Buff]

Go Rams! I’ll be rooting for them hard the rest of the way.

We need them to tank so our pick is like 5 slots higher! jk I'll be rooting for Von over TB12 too... But that would be a silver lining if Stafford wilts.

[Chillez]

We need them to tank so our pick is like 5 slots higher! jk I'll be rooting for Von over TB12 too... But that would be a silver lining if Stafford wilts.

Yeah true I forgot about that def would be a silver lining I hope we nail these two picks back to back.

[Simple Jaded]

No it’s not about only watching broncos games….. I watch a lot of games….

But when your a bengals fan and then a broncos fan and then a Steelers fan and then you have a NFC team as well your pretty much a joke of a fan. And I like king but he’d definitely be the guy at my job that everybody clowns for being a weaker fan or we’d just view em the way we view women who always has a different team or multiple team’s and won’t take him/her serious at all. It’s just the way it is
You’re about to get on my last nerve … bruh.

[Simple Jaded]

So Jaded, do you hate Von now?

Hell no, even if he requested the trade.

[BroncoWave]

You’re about to get on my last nerve … bruh.

About to? What took you so long? :lol:

[King87]

For the draftniks, how many points are the picks going to be worth, generally? I know that there are different scales and obviously the order isn’t determined yet.

[Simple Jaded]

There you go. Jaded's fairytale evaporated. He wanted out, we obliged. And it makes the trade for that rams LB last week make way more sense.

No fairytale, I don’t even doubt that he requested the trade to begin with. But you do everything you can to make Von retire a Bronco.

[Simple Jaded]

About to? What took you so long? :lol:

I’m an elderly gentleman, muthur******.

[BroncoWave]

Interesting conflicting reports about them talking to Von ahead of time. Schefter was on the Fan and said that both Von and his agent didn't know and felt a little blindsided and shocked.

Weird, that's directly in contradiction to Albert Breer's report that von knew about it a week ago. Breer is pretty plugged in too. Someone got bad info.

[Simple Jaded]

Weird, that's directly in contradiction to Albert Breer's report that von knew about it a week ago. Breer is pretty plugged in too. Someone got bad info.

They sat Von out for a reason vs WFT, and it’s not because Fangio is worried about player safety/health.

[BroncoWave]

No fairytale, I don’t even doubt that he requested the trade to begin with. But you do everything you can to make Von retire a Bronco.

Sorry, but that's a fairytale in today's NFL. Even Tom Brady, likely the GOAT at this point, didn't make it all the way with his original team. I love Von. He's my second favorite Bronco of all time. Hearing the news this morning gutted me. But it was the right move. You'll come to this conclusion too when acceptance sets in.

[BroncoWave]

They sat Von out for a reason vs WFT, and it’s not because Fangio is worried about player safety/health.

I fully believe this was in motion a week ago. I'm thinking maybe that poster misheard schefter or schefter misspoke. I just don't see how this would have blindsided him.

[Nomad]

Is Von gonna be eligible to play the Titans on Sunday Night? That should be a good game.

[BroncoWave]

Is Von gonna be eligible to play the Titans on Sunday Night? That should be a good game.

Sounds like it, yes.

[Hawgdriver]

For the draftniks, how many points are the picks going to be worth, generally? I know that there are different scales and obviously the order isn’t determined yet.

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp

If it's a 2 and a 3, that's a max of 258 and a min of 140 according to the Rich Hill chart (more accurate than the defunct JJ chart). That is about the same as overall pick #22 (best) or #42 (worst).

However, it's also good to value the optionality of it--two fungible units are better than one, all else equal. In addition, 2's, and to some extent 3's, are especially good considering the talent available compared to the cap hit.

[Chillez]

Is Von gonna be eligible to play the Titans on Sunday Night? That should be a good game.

I think Von will play Sunday Night.

[Simple Jaded]

I love geeks.

[Simple Jaded]

I fully believe this was in motion a week ago. I'm thinking maybe that poster misheard schefter or schefter misspoke. I just don't see how this would have blindsided him.

Which shows you how pretentious Von Miller can be.

[Nomad]

Kinger must be excited for his Rams. LoL.

[Simple Jaded]

Sorry, but that's a fairytale in today's NFL. Even Tom Brady, likely the GOAT at this point, didn't make it all the way with his original team. I love Von. He's my second favorite Bronco of all time. Hearing the news this morning gutted me. But it was the right move. You'll come to this conclusion too when acceptance sets in.

I don’t accept!

[Simple Jaded]

Back in the day Shanatan let Ian Gold walk and got a 3rd round comp pick (great move), then re-signed Gold the next offseason after he bombed out in TB (not a great move) … if Paton can pull that off, all is forgiven.

[Enter The Dragon]

So, let me get this right. The Rams, a couple years removed from a SB appearance and already had Aaron Donald, a decent QB and a few other blue chippers around their team...traded for the best CB in the league, traded for one of the best QBs in the league, and got Von for a bag of chips?

[BroncoWave]

Back in the day Shanatan let Ian Gold walk and got a 3rd round comp pick (great move), then re-signed Gold the next offseason after he bombed out in TB (not a great move) … if Paton can pull that off, all is forgiven.

I see we've moved from the anger and denial stages of grief to bargaining. You'll be at acceptance soon enough!

[Simple Jaded]

I see we've moved from the anger and denial stages of grief to bargaining. You'll be at acceptance soon enough!
Speak English!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Ive known King a long time and he isnt a joke of a fan. He was a Bengal fan for a long time and as easy as it would be for him to jump back on the Bengals bandwagon he hasnt done that. Not sure why he wanted to be a Steeler fan but he wasnt accepted as a Bronco fan with people such as yourself insulting him like this. I just dont understand the animosity towards him, he argues his points well when he debates and likes the game of football in totality.

I started out as a Cowboys fan when i was young then in 82' became a Bronco fan which ive been for 35+ years. And to be honest after last year i seriously thought of not being one anymore (same with Virginia on the college level) but ultimately i just relaxed and quit taking the sport so seriously. Ive grown to appreciate the things this franchise has accomplished that many other organizations (Bengals) have not. Its easy to chastise someone for switching teams when you are a fan of a team that has had it much better as a franchise than others.

People always bust my balls about my Tom Brady love or that i rooted for the Pats or Bucs in the SB's against the teams they faced. I DONT GIVE A ****. I love the sport and like certain players on teams while hating other teams and franchises. I will never root for an AFC rival to win a SB, ever. But i have no problem putting my support behind the Saints when they played Indy, or the Cardinals when they played the Steelers. Who cares that a football fan supports another team even if its not the team they love? Makes no sense to be derogatory about that.

Dude trust me you can sympathize if you want but it’s a joke to most people and that doesn’t mean king is fluke at life or a person. And don’t accuse me of being the reason he’s not a broncos fans because that was you all that gave him that shit long before I got here, ida never said he wasn’t a broncos fan but ida definitely busted his balls about being a hopper. And he is indeed a hopper and that’s fine it’s not a crime smh. Having 4 different teams in your adult life is not normal dude and there’s only certain types of fans who does that shit and they are joked on for it.

Describing it as an insult is beyond extreme smh.

King is my guy but king meets the criteria of a hopper lol but that’s fine.

[BroncoWave]

Speak English!

5 stages of grief: Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. Generally accepted as the different emotional phases people go through when losing loved ones.

You went through denial and anger this morning. Now you're in the bargaining phase thinking we'll get him back in free agency. When you realize this ain't happening you'll be depressed. When you realize he was gone anyway and the draft picks are sweet, you'll be at acceptance!

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Hey you are allowed to be a rams nfc fan and a Broncos AFC fan.

I am a saints NFC fan and a Broncos AFC fan.

The hopping is real

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

You’re about to get on my last nerve … bruh.

You don’t have any nerves…. Bruh

[Simple Jaded]

5 stages of grief: Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. Generally accepted as the different emotional phases people go through when losing loved ones.

You went through denial and anger this morning. Now you're in the bargaining phase thinking we'll get him back in free agency. When you realize this ain't happening you'll be depressed. When you realize he was gone anyway and the draft picks are sweet, you'll be at acceptance!
Now I’m back to angry.

[BroncoWave]

Now I’m back to angry.

Well you're always angry!

[Simple Jaded]

You don’t have any nerves…. Bruh

Good one. :thumbsup:

[Simple Jaded]

Well you're always angry!

Well yeah, when you put it like that. . .

[Strafen]

Hey you are allowed to be a rams nfc fan and a Broncos AFC fan.

I am a saints NFC fan and a Broncos AFC fan.Speaking of the Rams, they’ve got the missing piece that had them over the hump when they’ve got Matthew Stafford. What a nice pick and perfect fit. Good for Stafford. I hope he wins it all this year. They have an already amazing defense and now they have added Von to the mix. Unreal!

[King87]

Hawg: he loves picks.

Jaded: he loves picks, but just not like this!

Strafen: he admires rosters that are well built.

North: a message board historian!

[BigDaddyBronco]

I guess nobody stays with a team until retirement. This is better than losing him in Free Agency and getting a compensatory 3rd round pick I guess.

Problem is that this front office will blow the picks and get another Fant or Lock, oh wait those were even higher picks than what we got.

[BroncoWave]

I guess nobody stays with a team until retirement. This is better than losing him in Free Agency and getting a compensatory 3rd round pick I guess.

Problem is that this front office will blow the picks and get another Fant or Lock, oh wait those were even higher picks than what we got.

This front office didn't draft Fant or Lock. Surtain, who they did draft, looks like a stud.

[Simple Jaded]

So now Fant is a bust?

[BigDaddyBronco]

Do we have the same scouts? I mean yea Elway made the final call, but someone talked up Fant and Lock. Surtain has been fine, he will probably be a solid corner for years to come. End of 2nd and end of 3rd rounder for the best defender the Broncos have had in decades if not the best ever. Yea I get end of contract and all that, just seems like we got robbed.

[BroncoWave]

So now Fant is a bust?

I still really like Fant. Hopefully we get an OC next year who knows how to utilize him.

[BroncoWave]

Do we have the same scouts? I mean yea Elway made the final call, but someone talked up Fant and Lock. Surtain has been fine, he will probably be a solid corner for years to come. End of 2nd and end of 3rd rounder for the best defender the Broncos have had in decades if not the best ever. Yea I get end of contract and all that, just seems like we got robbed.

We were going to lose him for nothing but a comp 3rd round pick 2 months from now. I don't see how you can call this a robbery compared to getting nothing for him.

[Simple Jaded]

I still really like Fant. Hopefully we get an OC next year who knows how to utilize him.

And a QB that isn’t deathly allergic to Seem passes.

[BroncoWave]

And a QB that isn’t deathly allergic to Seem passes.

I think talent wise he's right there with Kelce and Kittle. Would love to unlock that production.

[BigDaddyBronco]

We were going to lose him for nothing but a comp 3rd round pick 2 months from now. I don't see how you can call this a robbery compared to getting nothing for him.

Key word - seems. Emotional response, not a logical response. Like losing one of the best Broncos ever for a couple of picks seems like we got ******. Like I said, I know we didn't due to FA coming up and all. Just feels like a punch in the gut.

[BigDaddyBronco]

So now Fant is a bust?

As a complete TE, yes. He can still be a secondary pass catching TE. Those can be valuable. Funny how they keep throwing him 5 yard outs expecting him to run over a CB and he gets tackled every ******* time.

[BroncoWave]

Key word - seems. Emotional response, not a logical response. Like losing one of the best Broncos ever for a couple of picks seems like we got ******. Like I said, I know we didn't due to FA coming up and all. Just feels like a punch in the gut.

I get it. He hurts emotionally to lose. He'll go down as a top 5 bronco ever. But I'm happy for him at least to get another great shot at a ring.

[BigDaddyBronco]

I get it. He hurts emotionally to lose. He'll go down as a top 5 bronco ever. But I'm happy for him at least to get another great shot at a ring.

True that. Where is Falco, he can be a Rams fan, lol.

[BroncoWave]

True that. Where is Falco, he can be a Rams fan, lol.

Has anyone checked on Falco today?

[Chillez]

Key word - seems. Emotional response, not a logical response. Like losing one of the best Broncos ever for a couple of picks seems like we got ******. Like I said, I know we didn't due to FA coming up and all. Just feels like a punch in the gut.

Von has fallen off since SB50 he isn't in his prime anymore nowadays he is injury prone much older and can't stay healthy for a whole season. I'm really happy with this trade both teams got what they wanted. Von probably only has a few years left I just hope he reties as a Denver Bronco when he calls it a career.

[Northman]

So now Fant is a bust?

He sucks at blocking but then we should be using him more in the passing game in my opinion but man yesterday he was stinky poo in the blocking dept.

[BigDaddyBronco]

He sucks at blocking but then we should be using him more in the passing game in my opinion but man yesterday he was stinky poo in the blocking dept.

All year really being a bad blocker. Lots of holding calls though. It's on Shumer to use him effectively though.

[BroncoWave]

Keeping Fant in to block more than a couple of plays a game is pointless. He's a pass catcher.

[Chillez]

He sucks at blocking but then we should be using him more in the passing game in my opinion but man yesterday he was stinky poo in the blocking dept.

Exactly. If only Denver had good to solid offensive coordinator and the right QB Fant would really shine and stand out. It sucks Denver only continues to not use his strengths but only his weakness (pass blocking).

[Jeudy10Hamler1]

Lol fant is a bust because he’s a pass catching mis match that can’t block yet in year 2????? It’s a shame we have this great talent and don’t even use him. Shurmer is an idiot

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Updated article


Von Miller was in just as much shock as Broncos Country after the team traded the perennial Pro Bowl outside linebacker to the Rams on Monday in exchange for second- and third-round picks.

Speaking to reporters outside team headquarters a couple of hours after the news broke, the 32-year-old said he felt “kind of numb” in the immediate aftermath.

“(The trade) was a surprise,” he said. “This team, they’re going to start winning soon. … We’ve got a lot of great players and a lot of great coaches here, and the staff is amazing. I wanted to be a part of it to fix it, but you’ve just got to keep moving.”

Miller, the Broncos’ franchise sack leader with 110.5, spent Monday morning meeting individually with coach Vic Fangio, general manager George Paton and president/CEO Joe Ellis, as well as saying goodbye to teammates before he departed from the facility around noon.

rest - https://www.denverpost.com/2021/11/01/broncos-von-miller-reacts-trade-rams/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation

[dogfish]

And a QB that isn’t deathly allergic to Seem passes.

*seam*



So now Fant is a bust?

nah. . . he'll be fine as soon as he gets paired up with a competent QB. . . so yeah, i guess he IS a bust for denver. . .

[Mozzafiato]

I’ve seen a few people mention the comp pick the Broncos would get if/when Von left in FA…

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[BroncoNut]

Love Vonn. he was the reason for the superbowl win

[BroncoWave]

I’ve seen a few people mention the comp pick the Broncos would get if/when Von left in FA…

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Well that makes this trade even better then.

[BroncoWave]

Love Vonn. he was the reason for the superbowl win

Not enough to know how to spell his name I guess!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

A couple good previous articles:

Von Miller Wants To Be Bronco For Life
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/03/von-miller-wants-to-be-bronco-for-life

Broncos exercise contract option, keep Von Miller in fold
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/broncos-exercise-contract-option-keep-von-miller-in-fold

[BroncoNut]

Not enough to know how to spell his name I guess!

ive got an itchy trigger finder, I mean finger

[UnderArmour]

Much love to Von. This gives the team a 2nd and a 3rd back, and gives him a chance to win another ring this year. It's tough, but inevitably Von was going to bolt for Dallas in free agency anyways and the team needs to allocate money to Chubb. With that said, this seriously sucks but I completely understand why.

[aberdien]

I am now team #FirePaton.

[BroncoWave]

Interesting conflicting reports about them talking to Von ahead of time. Schefter was on the Fan and said that both Von and his agent didn't know and felt a little blindsided and shocked.

Ok I've reached a conclusion on how the stories of this seem to wildly differ. Schefty must have meant to say and just didn't phrase properly that Von was blindsided when he found out about it...last week. He couldn't have been saying Von had no clue until today, because I just can't imagine that's true.

[BroncoWave]

I am now team #FirePaton.

Huh???

[BroncoBeavis]

Ok I've reached a conclusion on how the stories of this seem to wildly differ. Schefty must have meant to say and just didn't phrase properly that Von was blindsided when he found out about it...last week. He couldn't have been saying Von had no clue until today, because I just can't imagine that's true.

Well most of these discussions aren't had with absolutes. I'm sure he and his agent suspected conversations were happening. That's always a valid assumption on **** teams at trade deadline. That doesn't necessarily take much edge off when the trigger gets pulled on a face of the franchise.

[BroncoWave]

Well most of these discussions aren't had with absolutes. I'm sure he and his agent suspected conversations were happening. That's always a valid assumption on **** teams at trade deadline. That doesn't necessarily take much edge off when the trigger gets pulled on a face of the franchise.

As much as Von seems to love Denver and is sad to go, I can't imagine he's going to be sad for too long when it sinks in that he's now on the Super Bowl favorites and is about to get to play next to Aaron Donald. Paton hooked him up nicely on that way out. And if Von really loves Denver so much and wants to retire here, he can come back in free agency this offseason. I don't think he will, but he has that option.

[sneakers]

What the ****?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Former Broncos linebacker Von Miller quickly got emotional Monday as he offered his reaction to being traded to the Rams.

As the eight-time Pro-Bowler approached the Denver airport for Los Angeles on Monday, Miller spoke to local reporter Troy Renck from his car.

"I've been here through the ups and the downs," Miller shakily told Renck. "It's always tough whenever you leave, but I love all my fans and I love Broncos country. When I said 'Broncos for life,' I meant that. They'll always be in my heart."

The 32-year-old linebacker was acquired by the Rams in exchange for two second-day 2022 draft picks on Monday morning, Adam Schefter reported. Miller was first drafted by the Denver franchise in 2011 and has been with the Broncos for his entire NFL career.

rest, plus both of Troy's videos speaking with Von this morning - https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/von-miller-has-emotional-reaction-after-broncos-trade-him-to-rams/ar-AAQcyjz

[BroncoWave]

And for the people who want to hang Paton over this (which I think is absurd, when the shock/emotion of losing him wears off, you'll realize it was a sensible deal), I doubt he made this deal without signoff from Elway and Ellis. Given his reluctance to shake up the QB position and fire the incumbent coach in his first year, I highly doubt he just unilaterally traded THAT guy. I'm guessing this was an organization decision to turn the page and really start to focus on the future.

[Nomad]

The business side of the NFL sucks sometimes, and this is one of them.

[aberdien]

I am now team #BanWave for being a douche and not letting us normal people who just found out about this 30 minutes ago mourn.

[aberdien]

This is one of the worst days of my life.

[King87]

This is one of the worst days of my life.

u have gud life

[BroncoWave]

I am now team #BanWave for being a douche and not letting us normal people who just found out about this 30 minutes ago mourn.

Ok that's fair. I felt the same way this morning. I will allow you your time to grieve and process this.

[dogfish]

I am now team #BanWave for being a douche and not letting us normal people who just found out about this 30 minutes ago mourn.


:lol::lol:

[aberdien]

Pat Bowlen's Denver Broncos would not have traded a legend like Von Miller, who even after dealing with bad coaches, teams, and being misused by Fangio, still wanted to be here until the end. An outsider and non-Bronco like Paton would never understand the value of such loyalty.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/fc9c8dd1b507b6a2cf21393efe80a9cb/tumblr_ncee56DYui1ttytm0o1_500.gif

[aberdien]

u have gud life

Or maybe this event is so horrible that it even outweighs the events of my bad life!

[BroncoJoe]

The wins will make him feel less bad about the trade.

[aberdien]

The wins will make him feel less bad about the trade.

He is merely a rental, so it will feel hollow!

[Nomad]

For you, abe.

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[ShaneFalco]

holy shit patton needs to get fired.

everyone in the entire building needs to go.

[King87]

Or maybe this event is so horrible that it even outweighs the events of my bad life!

u dumby

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1455209342534361100

Wow.

2nd day draft picks. LMAO. fire these clowns.

[BroncoWave]

holy shit patton needs to get fired.

everyone in the entire building needs to go.

See Abe, do you really want to be on the same side of history as Shane here? :D

[BroncoWave]

2nd day draft picks. LMAO. fire these clowns.

As opposed to the zilch we'd have gotten when he walked in FA in 2 months.

[ShaneFalco]

I am now team #FirePaton.

how could anyone not be at this point?

This clown brought in teddy and traded Von.

**** him.

[ShaneFalco]

As opposed to the zilch we'd have gotten when he walked in FA in 2 months.

well maybe if the loser hadnt brought in a loser qb instead of starting drew we wouldnt be in this position.

Losers gunna lose.

Bunch of retards running this franchise into the ground.