Comparing the 2020 WR draft class

[Northman]

Since WR seems to be a big topic i figure i would post this here for discussion.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings-the-top-10-wrs-ranked-by-trait-route-running-yac-speed-and-more/


Releases/route running



Jerry Jeudy
Jalen Reagor
Henry Ruggs
CeeDee Lamb
Laviska Shenault
K.J. Hamler
Brandon Aiyuk
Tee Higgins
Denzel Mims
Justin Jefferson



Jeudy is the most squeaky-clean route runner I've ever scouted, and Reagor, while not someone who ran as many routes as Jeudy, has the explosion and smoothness to turn defensive backs with ease. Ruggs is far from a solely linear athlete, but his natural speed and deceptive twitch will help him to get open regularly in the NFL (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl). Lamb and Shenault are good route runners for their size and Hamler's loose hips allow him to rapidly get out of his breaks. All of Aiyuk, Higgins, Mims, and Jefferson are quality athletes on the field, they just weren't asked to run more than a few routes in college.



Sleeper: K.J. Hill and Van Jefferson


I had to give both Hill and Jefferson the sleeper label here. They're both 10-year NFL veterans as route salesmen. Hill rarely (if ever?) saw press coverage at Ohio State, so while he knows how to lose a corner during his route with shoulder fakes, head fakes, and lightning-quick feet, it could take him time to learn the nuances of combating tight man coverage at the line of scrimmage. Jefferson, on the other hand, has the best releases in the class, plenty of athleticism and route nuance to free himself at the short and intermediate levels.


Contested-catch ability



Tee Higgins
Justin Jefferson
CeeDee Lamb
Denzel Mims
Jalen Reagor
Henry Ruggs
Jerry Jeudy
Laviska Shenault
Brandon Aiyuk
K.J. Hamler




Higgins has the best combination of high-pointing and contested-catch ability I've scouted since Mike Evans. Jefferson flashed the ability to make difficult grabs while contorting his body, but his nearly perfect contested-catch win rate from 2019 was skewed due to exquisitely accurate throws from Joe Burrow and was more about Jefferson's ability to track the ball as opposed to jumping over a cornerback and catching it with arms extended. Lamb and Mims are circus-grab wizards, and Reagor plays a lot bigger than his sub-5-foot-11 height would suggest because of his leaping ability and natural hands. Neither Ruggs nor Jeudy are being drafted for their contested-catch skills but can make those receptions on occasion. Shenault and Aiyuk have flashed in this area, and Hamler isn't a contested-grab receiver.



Sleeper: Isaiah Hodgins


Hodgins is right around the same size at Higgins and has a massive catch radius. While his body control isn't as ridiculous, he has large, strong hands and is not timid when needing to go up and get it. He rarely drops the football.



Yards after the catch



CeeDee Lamb
Jalen Reagor
Laviska Shenault
Jerry Jeudy
Henry Ruggs
K.J. Hamler
Brandon Aiyuk
Tee Higgins
Denzel Mims
Justin Jefferson





Lamb brings tears of joy to my eyes when I watch him after the catch. From vision to cutting ability, to outrageous contact balance, and scary acceleration, he's the total package with the ball in his hands. Reagor possesses dynamic athleticism, smooth juking, and plays a lot faster than his 4.47 time on the field. Throughout this draft process, in my notes, in articles, and on the radio, I've repeatedly referred to Shenault as a horse in space. Strong, large with freaky speed and great contact balance. At 6-1 and 227 pounds, NFL cornerbacks are going to have trouble corralling him right away. Ruggs and Hamler are mostly speed-based YAC receivers yet both flashed some flexibility to cut away from defenders with the ball in their hands. Aiyuk is a burner with the ball in his hands, and Higgins, Mims, and Jefferson have surprising, efficient YAC ability despite being taller, perimeter wideouts. No one in this group is a liability in this vital area.


Sleeper: Joe Reed


My comparison for Reed is Deebo Samuel, which should tell you how highly I view the Virginia star. At 6-0 and 224 pounds, he has a feature-back body, effortlessly gliding through arm-tackle attempts, and his short-area quickness is like that of a ball-carrier too. While Reed ran under 4.50 at the combine, he doesn't play that fast, so the YAC he'll get will mostly be by way of making defenders miss or absorbing contact and continuing forward as opposed to hitting home runs. He's a super-fun, made-for-the-modern-day NFL sleeper prospect.





Downfield speed



Henry Ruggs
K.J. Hamler
Jalen Reagor
Jerry Jeudy
Denzel Mims
CeeDee Lamb
Justin Jefferson
Brandon Aiyuk
Laviska Shenault
Tee Higgins



Ruggs is stupid fast. The end. Hamler didn't run at the combine but looks like a high 4.3 wideout on film with incredible burst off the line. Reagor flies. So does Jeudy. Mims ran 4.38 in Indianapolis, which doesn't exactly match the film, but he'll run away from people after catching the football. Lamb, Jefferson, and Aiyuk all play at around 4.50 on the field and Shenault and Higgins certainly aren't lumbers on deep balls.



Sleeper: Darnell Mooney


I could've gone John Hightower from Boise State here because he's a gazelle. Instead, I'll go a bit deeper. Mooney is a 5-10, 176-pound rocket who ran 4.38 at the combine and plays to that speed on the field. He was more of a possession wideout in 2019 with a 14.7 yards-per-catch average but finished with a 20.7 average in 2018. The Tulane receiver's burst off the snap and second gear are both phenomenal traits to have.



Position fits

Outside



Tee Higgins
Brandon Aiyuk
CeeDee Lamb
Laviska Shenault
Denzel Mims
Jerry Jeudy
Jalen Reagor
Henry Ruggs
Justin Jefferson
K.J. Hamler



Higgins is your quintessential outside receiver in the NFL thanks to his size, rare body control, and enormous catch radius. Aiyuk was mostly deployed on the outside in college. Lamb and Shenault can be moved around but won't be uncomfortable against bigger corners on the perimeter. Mims is probably best as a big slot yet has the physicality to deal with bigger corners he'll see near the sideline. Jeudy is clearly more deadly in the slot than at one of the outside receiver spots. Reagor played more than 80% of his snaps at one of the outside positions, but his talent would be most accentuated as an inside option. Ruggs and Hamler could destroy the seam down the field from the slot and Jefferson almost solely produced from the slot in 2019.



Sleeper: Bryan Edwards


Edwards is bound to fall in the draft after breaking his foot early in the pre-draft process. The South Carolina star produced for four-consecutive seasons and at 6-3 and 215 pounds with crafty footwork and impressive hands to beat press at the line and he saw a lot of that press coverage in the SEC.



Slot



Jerry Jeudy
K.J. Hamler
Jalen Reagor
Justin Jefferson
Henry Ruggs
Denzel Mims
CeeDee Lamb
Tee Higgins
Laviska Shenault
Brandon Aiyuk



Given his twitch, explosion, and route nuance, Jeudy will essentially be impossible for NFL corners to touch when he's aligned in the slot. I've long said Hamler's burst off the line is as freaky as Jeudy's, and Reagor, with the space afforded to inside receivers, will provide a myriad of options for the offense he's in. Jefferson is basically a slot-only wideout and Ruggs, given his size, should probably at least start on the slot in the NFL. The rest of the receivers would pass as occasional big slots to take advantage of mismatches and have the ball skills to win in traffic over the middle.



Sleeper: Tyler Johnson


The Minnesota star can be utilized anywhere yet his high-end wiggle, handwork at the line, and running-back like yards-after-the-catch skill will be most effective inside in the NFL, where those attributes will be more important than his (somewhat lacking) long speed.

[CoachChaz]

My amateur opinion would disagree with a few of those. More so than I care to type out. But Shenault #3 in YAC sticks out. He's had some big plays, but a career YPC of 13.0 disagrees.

[Simple Jaded]

My amateur opinion would disagree with a few of those. More so than I care to type out. But Shenault #3 in YAC sticks out. He's had some big plays, but a career YPC of 13.0 disagrees.

Cu did him no favors with how they used him, it was amateur hour, there are catches for zero yards littering his reels.

[Simple Jaded]

Is anyone else k9nda intrigued by Tyler Johnson later in the draft?

[Simple Jaded]

Joe Reed, bitches!

North gots himself a sleeper.

[Northman]

Joe Reed, bitches!

North gots himself a sleeper.

I did like the Deebo Samuel comparison, that gave me mahogany.

[Elevation inc]

I like Hill and Van Jefferson the most later, but im a fan of Reed as well. Tyler Johnson also could be sneaky.....

[Simple Jaded]

I did like the Deebo Samuel comparison, that gave me mahogany.

He’s Viska and Antonio Gibson, versatile in the run and passing game ... this is pretty romantic shit.

[Jsteve01]

Lynn Bowden but I digress. All the folks that hated in Reagor will be exposed

[Poet]

Cu did him no favors with how they used him, it was amateur hour, there are catches for zero yards littering his reels.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

[NightTerror218]

Isaiah Higgins with Oregon state is my sleeper WR. 6’4, catching everything. 1170 yards , 13 TDS, 13.8 ypc , 98 yards per game. He is not flashy but catches everything thrown his way and goes and gets it. 4.6s 40 and we all know it’s about the 3-cone drill for true players at 7.01s

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Hamler on all of those lists. Just sayin...

[Jsteve01]

I think its the same 10 guys

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I think its the same 10 guys

Yeah...and Hamler is on em

[Jsteve01]

Yeah...and Hamler is on em

Ok lol

[Poet]

Y'all ain't love me!

[MOtorboat]

As I'm starting to drill down a little on these guys, I think CeeDee Lamb is underrated on a couple of those lists. I think the good news for the Broncos is that the first three guys can be very effective slot, middle of the field players. I think Lamb or Ruggs is the better compliment to Sutton, but if they're in love with Jeudy, as reported, I don't think you can say that's a bad thing. Even Jefferson is a great slot guy, but he feels like a guy who will go late first round and nowhere near where Denver is picking, and 15 may be a little early. Taking any of the top four would give the Broncos offense some flexibility, as far as I can see. Ruggs is the most outside, deep threat type guy of the bunch, but I think he has traits, like his drop rate (PFF) and speed that also translates to the slot. Jefferson is intriguing. Drop back in the first round and pick him, gain some capital, and pick up a slot guy who can work the middle of the field and be versatile? I like the idea of these first round wide receivers, but wide receiver in the first is always a gamble.

Reading Bob McGinn's stuff at The Athletic, and it seems like the scout surveys he's doing has people saying these are all solid contributors, but maybe not high end studs. There's nothing wrong with that, but it makes you wonder if you look deeper in the wide receiver class instead of grabbing a first round guy.

Personally, I'm really liking CeeDee Lamb a lot, because of his ability to stretch the defense horizontally and vertically. I do wonder whether that translates to the pros as well as it did in the Big 12 against plenty of bad defenses. I also wonder if that translates into the offense Denver wants to run. Shurmur might want a more traditional slot guy like Jeudy, which is why the reports would make some sense. He's more of a traditional route runner guy who can play in the slot or the No. 2 to Sutton's outside work.

[MOtorboat]

One of the real interesting things in the overall picture is how different these prospects really are from prospects just five years ago. These are not outside guys. All of them played a ton of slot. It's just a sign of how the game is changing.

[Poet]

Mo, would you agree that WR's are much more important now than they've ever been before?

[Poet]

One of the real interesting things in the overall picture is how different these prospects really are from prospects just five years ago. These are not outside guys. All of them played a ton of slot. It's just a sign of how the game is changing.

Ruggs in the slot is going to **** people up.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Mo, would you agree that WR's are much more important now than they've ever been before?

Corps as a whole, yes. As I've said...have more ballers than the D can cover. But the resources have to be spread throughout the entire group. I don't want 1 expensive stud, 1 solid contributor and a bunch of filler. I want 4 soild contributors. I talk rings because a stud will get his stats in weeks 1-17, but a great coach will scheme them out of a playoff game. Memories are fun September-December. I want titles in February.

[MOtorboat]

Mo, would you agree that WR's are much more important now than they've ever been before?

Yes, but I think this year might be a weird test on that for the draft. The history of high-drafted receivers is littered with crap.

No receivers were taken in the top 15 in 2019 or 2018, but three did go in 2017: Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross. All three haven't lived up to the draft position, and none of them are really their team's No. 1. Corey Coleman was a complete bust in 2016. Amari Cooper and DeVante Parker finally broke out three and four years afters being drafted, respectively (Cooper is probably best player of the above mentioned players. Kevin White got drafted at 7 in 2015. I don't even know who Kevin White is.

2014 was really good (but that's six years ago): Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans and O'Dell Beckham.

But none of these guys feel like they are busts, but at the same time it doesn't seem like the scouts think there's a Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson type of receiver.

The most interesting thing to me is that these guys all played heavily in the slot and not many of the above players ever played in the slot. That's maybe the biggest change.

[Poet]

Corps as a whole, yes. As I've said...have more ballers than the D can cover. But the resources have to be spread throughout the entire group. I don't want 1 expensive stud, 1 solid contributor and a bunch of filler. I want 4 soild contributors. I talk rings because a stud will get his stats in weeks 1-17, but a great coach will scheme them out of a playoff game. Memories are fun September-December. I want titles in February.

I'm sorry but that doesn't disprove my point. Because you literally just end up with the logical conclusion that oyu get multiple good or great players. The point you're making is one that strengthens my position.

The last time Eli Manning was worth a damn he had numerous big talents at WR, like the Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith (the other one) Plaxico Burress, Victor Cruz type talents and almost all of those guys were top picks.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I'm sorry but that doesn't disprove my point. Because you literally just end up with the logical conclusion that oyu get multiple good or great players. The point you're making is one that strengthens my position.

The last time Eli Manning was worth a damn he had numerous big talents at WR, like the Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith (the other one) Plaxico Burress, Victor Cruz type talents and almost all of those guys were top picks.

It does to the extent that resources are limited. You aren't getting multiple great players without sacrificing other areas. In this era where DBs aren't allowed to do their job and the QB is treated like a crystal egg, WRs of all types ha e an opportunity to be more effective. We just need to get the right ones.

BTW...cherry picking again. NYG won the SB 8 years ago. If we are discussing what wins in today's NFL, going back 8 years isn't necessarily pertinent.

[Poet]

It does to the extent that resources are limited. You aren't getting multiple great players without sacrificing other areas. In this era where DBs aren't allowed to do their job and the QB is treated like a crystal egg, WRs of all types ha e an opportunity to be more effective. We just need to get the right ones.

BTW...cherry picking again. NYG won the SB 8 years ago. If we are discussing what wins in today's NFL, going back 8 years isn't necessarily pertinent.

First, you can't tell me we overinvest in WR when we haven't taken a WR in round one since when, DT? How many FA dollars do we dump there? We've spent way more capital recently on the line and DB crew than WR. So if that's your conclusion you should want a WR.

Hold on a second - eight years ago when the era we are in now is irrelevant? It was just a comment about how the WR's can help out a guy who was otherwise falling off.

Resources are limited, but you want to draft a LT even none of the LT's in this class are slam dunk prospects, when we have an average LT on the team. That's not dealing with limited resources. You want to draft a corner high, even though Fangio's scheme doesn't call for mandatory high end talent? That's not dealing well with limited resources, either. The LB part makes much more sense, but there's are kinds of good LB's in this draft, and no LB in this draft sans Simmons -who I would want to trade up for, TBH- is as impactful as the WR's.

What you're proposing as ideas based on resource management ideas are bad logistically and not in tune with this league.

You said it's a time where all kinds of WR's can succeed. Right. Okay, I agree. But as I showed you earlier, the bidding war on WR's seems to be pretty important, and that's grounded in fact. So if your batch of guys who can play are second, third, and fourth rounds, maybe throw in a surprise find like 6/7 round or UDFA, BUT my guys, after my stud WR, are first round talents, whose squad is going to outperform the other?

I'm hoping that Elway sees this as a chance to jump back into the arms race. I'm tired of watching the Chiefs trot out a death-squadron on offense while we send out players while we send out the Washington Generals. Offense is what's winning, been stelling you guys for that. A

[SmilinAssasSin27]

First, you can't tell me we overinvest in WR when we haven't taken a WR in round one since when, DT? How many FA dollars do we dump there? We've spent way more capital recently on the line and DB crew than WR. So if that's your conclusion you should want a WR.

Hold on a second - eight years ago when the era we are in now is irrelevant? It was just a comment about how the WR's can help out a guy who was otherwise falling off.

Resources are limited, but you want to draft a LT even none of the LT's in this class are slam dunk prospects, when we have an average LT on the team. That's not dealing with limited resources. You want to draft a corner high, even though Fangio's scheme doesn't call for mandatory high end talent? That's not dealing well with limited resources, either. The LB part makes much more sense, but there's are kinds of good LB's in this draft, and no LB in this draft sans Simmons -who I would want to trade up for, TBH- is as impactful as the WR's.

What you're proposing as ideas based on resource management ideas are bad logistically and not in tune with this league.

You said it's a time where all kinds of WR's can succeed. Right. Okay, I agree. But as I showed you earlier, the bidding war on WR's seems to be pretty important, and that's grounded in fact. So if your batch of guys who can play are second, third, and fourth rounds, maybe throw in a surprise find like 6/7 round or UDFA, BUT my guys, after my stud WR, are first round talents, whose squad is going to outperform the other?

I'm hoping that Elway sees this as a chance to jump back into the arms race. I'm tired of watching the Chiefs trot out a death-squadron on offense while we send out players while we send out the Washington Generals. Offense is what's winning, been stelling you guys for that. A

I did not advocate for a certain position in my rebuttal. That said, we can all see the likelihood that both of our OTs are likely gone before 2021. While not ideal, we must find some someone to be ready in 21.

I think 8 years is enough time to see the difference in roster construction. Workhorse RBs were still more common. The big, tall WRs were still en vogue. We have since moved back to the WRs who are better in space since the CBs have caught up in size to those bigger receivers. I noticed the difference over the past 3 years. We debate at work all the time. Need that QB. Keep him safe. Play strong D. Have multiple threats. That's what is winning now. I'm not anti-WR in round 1. I just don't see the value in investing that high. Of course we need them, but you and I just disagree in HOW we need to get them.

[Poet]

Elway is going to end up drafting no WR's and style on me.

[underrated29]

My gf lost a bet to me about buffalo's (we were up at Daniel's park yesterday) and my winning was she had to watch one highlight video of these wr and rank them. Here is her list in order:

Ceedee by a mile!
Ruggs
Raegor
Viska
Ayuik
Jeudy
Jefferson
Mims

[MOtorboat]

My gf lost a bet to me about buffalo's (we were up at Daniel's park yesterday) and my winning was she had to watch one highlight video of these wr and rank them. Here is her list in order:

Ceedee by a mile!
Ruggs
Raegor
Viska
Ayuik
Jeudy
Jefferson
Mims

Well I guess this settles it. Shut down the thread.

[Jsteve01]

Honestly not a ton different. But she's way to low on Jeudy

[Northman]

Lets break into some highlight reels starting with my boy Joe Reed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSt1PCIpM


Ceedee Lamb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmOHnkIUY98


Tee Higgens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twHMls0DDWE

[Northman]

Brandon Aiyuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0-eFWtNUQ


Jerry Jeudy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaqK1ONNcU


Lynn Bowden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJIOfGGkzS0

[Northman]

KJ Hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtnV9yX3eo


KJ Hamler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvBb7II_BNo

[MOtorboat]

Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson: A right ankle injury that required surgery last spring has left Higgins with a decreased range of motion. But he has been playing on it for some time and remained productive, posting career highs with 1,167 yards and 13 touchdowns on 59 catches as a junior last fall. Long-term concerns could factor into the equation for NFL teams, though it seems unlikely to have a major impact on Higgins' draft status

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110281/article/2020-nfl-draft-will-injury-issues-impact-five-notable-prospects

This is one of those flags. Medical issues are a real gamble this year.

[Northman]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110281/article/2020-nfl-draft-will-injury-issues-impact-five-notable-prospects

This is one of those flags. Medical issues are a real gamble this year.

Indeed. Its one of the things that worries me about Hall. Hopefully both players can bounce back from those.

[MOtorboat]

Indeed. Its one of the things that worries me about Hall. Hopefully both players can bounce back from those.

Aiyuk as well.

[Hawgdriver]

I watched those highlights. I don't like highlights because so much of it is useless--blown coverage, blown tackles, great QB, great playcall. But from what I saw I'd say:

JJ4 impressed the most for reasons I can't explain
Lamb benefitted from a lot of garbage defense that can't tackle, but he just looks and moves like the real deal--the athleticism
Higgins just looks the part and I'd prefer taking him because of his ability to high-point and bully defenders
Bowden would be a great pickup in 4 and justified in 3, seems like a high football IQ guy with a knack for making plays.

Nothing really jumped out from the rest of it, but those four I like.

Need to watch the TCU kid and Riggs.

I know that I have no idea what I'm doing.

[CoachChaz]

Considering our success with SMU receivers...I'd love to get Proche in a later round

[MOtorboat]

Considering our success with SMU receivers...I'd love to get Proche in a later round

That kid had some crazy weeks. Was it up and down, though, because I seem to only remember the good ones?

Also ... SMU chucked the ball all over the place last year. Can’t think of the quarterback’s name ... was a Texas transfer.

[Northman]

I watched those highlights. I don't like highlights because so much of it is useless--blown coverage, blown tackles, great QB, great playcall. But from what I saw I'd say:

JJ4 impressed the most for reasons I can't explain
Lamb benefitted from a lot of garbage defense that can't tackle, but he just looks and moves like the real deal--the athleticism
Higgins just looks the part and I'd prefer taking him because of his ability to high-point and bully defenders
Bowden would be a great pickup in 4 and justified in 3, seems like a high football IQ guy with a knack for making plays.

Nothing really jumped out from the rest of it, but those four I like.

Need to watch the TCU kid and Riggs.

I know that I have no idea what I'm doing.

I agree with you that highlight reels can be one dimensional, however if you approach them looking more at what they bring in terms of execution, speed, maneuverability, and physicality i think highlight reels can provide some of those.

Case in point, in the Joe Reed reel there were 2 things that stood out to me.

1) The boy isnt afraid of contact.
2) In the Miami game there was a catch he made where he actually came back for the ball. It was only a 10-12 yd gain but the pass could have probably been intercepted had he not gone back for it.

I cant count how many times i have seen receivers just wait for passes instead of going after it. This doesnt mean i think Reed is a better prospect than the others but only pointing out that highlight reels can often show other things you may not be looking for initially.

[Hawgdriver]

I agree with you that highlight reels can be one dimensional, however if you approach them looking more at what they bring in terms of execution, speed, maneuverability, and physicality i think highlight reels can provide some of those.

Case in point, in the Joe Reed reel there were 2 things that stood out to me.

1) The boy isnt afraid of contact.
2) In the Miami game there was a catch he made where he actually came back for the ball. It was only a 10-12 yd gain but the pass could have probably been intercepted had he not gone back for it.

I cant count how many times i have seen receivers just wait for passes instead of going after it. This doesnt mean i think Reed is a better prospect than the others but only pointing out that highlight reels can often show other things you may not be looking for initially.

It might be the quickest way to form some semblence of an opinion in the shortest time--but I find myself skipping tons of it. I guess you have to know what you are looking for, and I generally don't know nearly enough to form the kind of opinion I want to hear from others.

[CoachChaz]

That kid had some crazy weeks. Was it up and down, though, because I seem to only remember the good ones?

Also ... SMU chucked the ball all over the place last year. Can’t think of the quarterback’s name ... was a Texas transfer.

Shane Beuchele. Got banged up and lost his job to Ehlinger. Son of Steve Beuchele

But Proche was fairly consistent all year. Well over 100 catches.

[Simple Jaded]

Isn’t KJ Hill just Deasean Hamilton?

[Poet]

Isn’t KJ Hill just Deasean Hamilton?

Nah - he plays like he actually cares about the game.

[Jsteve01]

Thanks North. And thanks for sharing Reed. He's a hoss

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I watched Mim’s highlights yesterday and he kinda scares me. He never seems to get separation (even though he ran fast at the combine) and pushes off pretty much every time he’s contested. He’ll be an OPI nightmare in the NFL. He reminds me a lot of Sutton with his “go up and get it” but the constant push offs are a problem.

[CoachChaz]

I watched Mim’s highlights yesterday and he kinda scares me. He never seems to get separation (even though he ran fast at the combine) and pushes off pretty much every time he’s contested. He’ll be an OPI nightmare in the NFL. He reminds me a lot of Sutton with his “go up and get it” but the constant push offs are a problem.

Like any of the 2nd tier WR's...Mims has his areas of improvement. I think the pushing is a result of him allowing his coverage to crowd up his routes, which has a lot to do with his confidence to win 50/50 balls against big 12 competition. Just one of those things to expect from a late first round pick.

[Hawgdriver]

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[Northman]

I do love me some Jefferson.

[Jsteve01]

I love Jefferson

[Hawgdriver]

That draftnik put his top six in three tiers:

1> Lamb
2> Justin Jefferson 3> Jeudy
4> Ruggs 5> Higgins 6> Mims

I think I'd be fine if we got any of those 15, maybe see who falls through the cracks and get value.

[Jsteve01]

I love Reagor.

[Jsteve01]

I would take he or Aiyulk in a heartbeat

[Hawgdriver]

I wonder how many of them will become starters.

[Hawgdriver]

2014 Draft, there was a glut of WR talent, 16 taken in top 100. In '15-19 that number was 13, 9, 13, 10, 13.

I'll put the 2014 class NFL impact (Career AV) in parens.

Watkins, 1-4, (36)
Mike Evans, 1-7, (49)
Odell Beckham, 1-12, (49)
B. Cooks, 1-20, (51)
Kelvin Benjamin, 1-28, (22)
Marquise Lee, 2-39, (17)
Paul Richardson, 2-45, (14)
Davante Adams, 2-53, (41)
Cody Latimer, 2-56, (6)
Allen Robinson, 2-61, (33)
Jarvis Landry, 2-63, (44)
Josh Huff, 3-86, (6)
Donte Moncrief, 3-90, (18)
John Brown, 3-91, (33)
Dri Archer, 3-97, (0)

One or more years as primary starter for team:
Martavis Bryant - 20th WR taken
Ryan Grant - 22d
Quincy Enunwa - 29th

Big boards put about 15 or so in top 100.

[CoachChaz]

2014 Draft, there was a glut of WR talent, 16 taken in top 100. In '15-19 that number was 13, 9, 13, 10, 13.

I'll put the 2014 class NFL impact (Career AV) in parens.

Watkins, 1-4, (36)
Mike Evans, 1-7, (49)
Odell Beckham, 1-12, (49)
B. Cooks, 1-20, (51)
Kelvin Benjamin, 1-28, (22)
Marquise Lee, 2-39, (17)
Paul Richardson, 2-45, (14)
Davante Adams, 2-53, (41)
Cody Latimer, 2-56, (6)
Allen Robinson, 2-61, (33)
Jarvis Landry, 2-63, (44)
Josh Huff, 3-86, (6)
Donte Moncrief, 3-90, (18)
John Brown, 3-91, (33)
Dri Archer, 3-97, (0)

One or more years as primary starter for team:
Martavis Bryant - 20th WR taken
Ryan Grant - 22d
Quincy Enunwa - 29th

Big boards put about 15 or so in top 100.

If we had drafted almost any of the guys drafted after Latimer, we wouldn't have to consider a WR very early this year.

[Hawgdriver]

Some notes on drafting WR below 100, 2000-2019 (n=263).

Percentage that average > 500 yds a season during career: 39%

>750 yds/season over career: 19%

> 1000 yds/season over career: 6%
Calvin Johnson - 2
Andre Johnson - 3
Larry Fitzgerald - 3
A.J. Green - 4
Amari Cooper - 4
Julio Jones - 6
Mike Evans - 7
Odell Beckham - 12
DeAndre Hopkins - 27
Reggie Wayne - 30
Chad Johnson - 36
Michael Thomas - 47
A.J. Brown - 51
Jarvis Landry - 63
T.Y. Hilton - 92

Average - 26th overall

Make a pro bowl once or more: 20%

Number of 2d and 3d round picks who start for 2+ seasons minus number of 1st round picks who start 0 or 1 season at most: +36