WR With First Two Picks....

[WARHORSE]

Of course its tough to know what will happen in FAgency.


If the Broncos stay with their picks taking BPA in each situation, I just thought of the prospect of Denver using its first two picks on WRs.

Initially, the knee jerk reaction is to vomit when you hear that.

However, lets remember that Denver has 7 selection in the top four rounds.

SEVEN.

While there are needs in other areas, Im not adverse to the Broncos taking BPA in each situation.


If we picked up Lamb or Jeudy at 15, and then Reagor, Laviska or some other top Wr are there, I dont see a problem with us taking them.

The reason is Im sick at the thought that KC might take a Reagor, or Laviska or Ruggs at their pick. Having both Hill, Kelce and Ruggs to contend with while Mahomes is tossing the rock to them just scares me. That being said, I think they take the best RB at 32.

I have to say Im pretty giddy at the thought of getting a Lamb or Jeudy at 15....and another top WR to boot in round 2.

Sutton, Lamb, Reagor(or the like), Fant......with Lock tossing the rock......I gotta say I love it.


Oline is going to be there with the rest of the picks as will corner.

I see us very active in FAgency.

[Hawgdriver]

There's some concerns all over the roster, and I did vomit like you said, but then I thought about it and decided there's worse ideas, especially if both had Sutton type impact. Of course one would be a field-stretcher but still, Lock and 3 WR personnel in a couple years with Fant and a pass-catching Lindsay and Janovich...if Lock is the real deal and the OL isn't a huge pit of suck...

But my gut is we need Andrew Thomas and nothing else will do.

[Northman]

Cant be scared of what other teams will do, you need to build a team that not only will improve the team but find ways to defend other teams. Getting in shootouts with KC the next few years is how you end up with Trent Green styled offenses without any defense. KC learned this year that it takes some defense to win championships.

[Elevation inc]

I all about trying to get a WR in the first 95 picks this draft because the class is pretty deep, but 2 and especially using just our first 2 picks on WR's is not smart at all with Center, Guard, Tackle, CB, DL, LB all bigger needs then 2 separate Wr's......

[Hawgdriver]

I all about trying to get a WR in the first 95 picks this draft because the class is pretty deep, but 2 and especially using just our first 2 picks on WR's is not smart at all with Center, Guard, Tackle, CB, DL, LB all bigger needs then 2 separate Wr's......

Yeah, maybe you need some great WRs, but there are always Deebos.

[NightTerror218]

If BPA is available and we already got 1 in round 1 I do jot see back to back picks being WRs

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Recent winners play D, block well and have too many solid weapons for other defenses to cover. Very few early skill picks and very few expensive skill players make up these teams. I'd have trouble accepting the strategy mentioned above.

[Simple Jaded]

This is how they’ve managed to NOT fix clear/obvious (like OL and covering TE’s) issues yea after year, waiting til later rounds to fix your biggest issues is grounds for being fired.

How bout you go WR in the first two rounds next year?

[Simple Jaded]

If KC goes offense (they probably should go defense) imo it’ll be RB, unless they dump Watkins to resign their FA’s.

[OrangeHoof]

I would like a WR by round 3 but I see needs at CB, OL, DL and ILB that are going to vie for attention unless we fill them in free agency. Quality CB, OT and DT will go fast. OG, OC, ILB and WR can wait for later rounds, not because they aren't important but because their skill sets normally fall through to the middle rounds. I do think we need a receiver who can take double coverage off of Sutton. I think Hamilton is a bust and Phillips is just a guy. Stick a Lamb or a Jeudy on the other side and now secondaries can't cheat. So if one is available at #15, this can be a great choice but I'm leaning Brown or Kinlaw at DL first, a top-3 corner next and then WR but a lot depends on what spills down to us.

Should we dangle a third or fourth to move up in the first round if we're targeting someone particular?

[Simple Jaded]

They better move up if they want a T.

Good thing they beat the Oakland ... er, I mean Las Vegas Raiders.

[dogfish]

lol. . . love ya, war-- now kindly get the f@*# out with that junk!

[Timmy!]

lol. . . love ya, war-- now kindly get the f@*# out with that junk!

^this.

Depending on how FA goes I'm okay with taking a WR with one of our 1st three picks, even at 15 if a guy we love fall, BUT, OL plz. Wrs can be had later, OL not so much.

[Elevation inc]

There is going to be a run on OT’s I expect us to do a hard look at Austin Jackson or Josh Jones at 15 maybe Wirfs if we’re lucky or even a slight trade back to get a extra 2nd rd pick cause we need a center to.

There are some sneaky guys around the 3rd range for OT in Driscoll and Peart that I like as well.

[CoachChaz]

Go with your board. If your #3 WR is rated higher than your #5 OL...then draft the WR. When you focus on drafting for need and take the best of what's left...you end up with guys like Bolles.

[D1g1tal j1m]

1st pick in round 1 (via a trade down) Austin Jackson, OT, USC.
2nd pick in round 1 (via another trade but back to the end of the 1st round) Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado

Because who doesn't love a draft with some movement...

[WARHORSE]

In a move to pump the brakes on two WRs.......let me give some perspective when drafting WRs.


The general consensus is that this is the best WR class ever........or........the best WR class since 2015, where 6 WRs went in the first round.



Demaryius, we scored.....no doubt. Julio Jones...oh my.


But let me list the 6 WRs that were drafted in the 2015 draft class:


Amari Cooper Pick 4 Raiders

Kevin White Pick 7 Chicago

Devante Parker Pick 14 Miami

Nelson Agholor Pick 20 Philly

Breshad Perriman Pick 26 Ravens

Phillip Dorsett Pick 29 Indy

[SmilinAssasSin27]

In a move to pump the brakes on two WRs.......let me give some perspective when drafting WRs.


The general consensus is that this is the best WR class ever........or........the best WR class since 2015, where 6 WRs went in the first round.



Demaryius, we scored.....no doubt. Julio Jones...oh my.


But let me list the 6 WRs that were drafted in the 2015 draft class:


Amari Cooper Pick 4 Raiders

Kevin White Pick 7 Chicago

Devante Parker Pick 14 Miami

Nelson Agholor Pick 20 Philly

Breshad Perriman Pick 26 Ravens

Phillip Dorsett Pick 29 Indy

WR can be a hard position to scout. Lots to hope for that college doesnt show you. For example, does a WR know how to hide his intentions when running routes vs pro CBs who actually know what they are looking at? How many relied on superior athleticism in college, but didn't study or work on their craft? The talent gap shrinks in the NFL and the work and mind matter. Another reason I prefer other positions in round 1.

[CoachChaz]

WR can be a hard position to scout. Lots to hope for that college doesnt show you. For example, does a WR know how to hide his intentions when running routes vs pro CBs who actually know what they are looking at? How many relied on superior athleticism in college, but didn't study or work on their craft? The talent gap shrinks in the NFL and the work and mind matter. Another reason I prefer other positions in round 1.

Just depends on what positions are available. If there are no OL, DL or CB worthy of #15...WR has to be the choice if one of the top 3 are available.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Just depends on what positions are available. If there are no OL, DL or CB worthy of #15...WR has to be the choice if one of the top 3 are available.

Completely agree...but at 15, this draft will assuredly leave us a prime choice at 1 of those spots.

[CoachChaz]

Completely agree...but at 15, this draft will assuredly leave us a prime choice at 1 of those spots.

Will it? It's very plausible that Becton, Thomas, Wllis, Okudah, Brown and Kinlaw are all gone by 15. After them, no one else at their positions is really worth a top 20 selection. Although I'd probably accept an argument for Kristian Fulton.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

The QBs basically always get taken earlier than 15 and there is enough potential there that I believe folks will go get theirs. Toss in a couple WRs, the OSU DE, the Clemson LB and a few others I'm forgetting and I believe we'll have options.

[CoachChaz]

The QBs basically always get taken earlier than 15 and there is enough potential there that I believe folks will go get theirs. Toss in a couple WRs, the OSU DE, the Clemson LB and a few others I'm forgetting and I believe we'll have options.

Two more months of speculation...and a reassessment after free agency

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Two more months of speculation...and a reassessment after free agency

And I'm loving every minute of it...

[Simple Jaded]

The QBs basically always get taken earlier than 15 and there is enough potential there that I believe folks will go get theirs. Toss in a couple WRs, the OSU DE, the Clemson LB and a few others I'm forgetting and I believe we'll have options.

Javon Kinlaw, Jeff Okudah.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Kinlaw projections are all over the map. I've seen him at 8, 22 and everywhere in between. I'll be very interested to see where he ends up.

[Jsteve01]

There should be someone we like at 15 or someone another team likes. I live the draft because some of these teams are going to overthink a guy like Andrew Thomas. Oooh Becton is athletic and so are wills and wirfs and the next thing you know the best player at the position could slide. This is the time of the year when personnel people forget the tape and intangibles and get lost in freak measurables.

[dogfish]

There should be someone we like at 15 or someone another team likes. I live the draft because some of these teams are going to overthink a guy like Andrew Thomas. Oooh Becton is athletic and so are wills and wirfs and the next thing you know the best player at the position could slide. This is the time of the year when personnel people forget the tape and intangibles and get lost in freak measurables.

yep. . . the more i think about, the more likely it seems that one of the top OLs should fall out of the top ten. . . if we assume that three QBs will go high, that leaves seven spots for four OLs, young, okudah, simmons, brown, and jeudy. . . if we don't end up with someone like thomas, becton or kinlaw, we should have options to trade back with somebody who wants the next QB, or one of the top WRs or edge guys. . .

our wild card move could be to draft a guy like chaisson ourselves, as a long term partner for chubb. . . then trade von, or let him walk. . . that would be the aggressive rebuild move-- i'm not a fan, and can't see JFE actually doing that. . . but the point is, we should have some decent options at fifteen. . .

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I'm not calling it, but I won't be shocked if 5 QBs go before us at 15. Eason is the wild card.

[Simple Jaded]

I'm not calling it, but I won't be shocked if 5 QBs go before us at 15. Eason is the wild card.

Someone on NFLN said that Eason has been linked to TB.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Brady will have a huge impact. I believe Belichick will go get someone if Brady goes. If Tennessee gets Brady, Tannehill likely goes to Oakland or Tampa. Should be fun

[Jsteve01]

I'm not calling it, but I won't be shocked if 5 QBs go before us at 15. Eason is the wild card.

I called into a nationally syndicated show a few weeks ago and the host acted like I was an idiot because I suggested we might see six quarterbacks go in the first.

[Simple Jaded]

I called into a nationally syndicated show a few weeks ago and the host acted like I was an idiot because I suggested we might see six quarterbacks go in the first.

What’s his ******* name? Only we can act like you’re an idiot.

[Simple Jaded]

I think you guys owe War an apology.

[Simple Jaded]

Speaking of WR’s, meet the New Dante Hall.

IKI6DyhXuaU

[slim]

I think you guys owe War an apology.

No shit.

#waradamus

[slim]

Someone on NFLN said that Eason has been linked to TB.

Thanks, Cugel.

[Simple Jaded]

Thanks, Cugel.

My sources drink a lot.

[slim]

My sources drink a lot.

For some reason, I think I like your sources.

[MOtorboat]

Speaking of WR’s, meet the New Dante Hall.

IKI6DyhXuaU

Now, the real question: Do the Broncos get to get away with blocks in the back now?

[slim]

The better question is what does "human joystick" even mean.

It sounds sexy, but I'm not sure it is.

[MOtorboat]

The better question is what does "human joystick" even mean.

It sounds sexy, but I'm not sure it is.

Come on, now. It’s because he can go in any direction at any time!

[slim]

Come on, now. It’s because he can go in any direction at any time!

He sounds flighty and unfocused.

Hard pass.

[MOtorboat]

He sounds flighty and unfocused.

Hard pass.

My bad. I did not realize this was not the Florida receiver we nabbed in the seventh.

[Simple Jaded]

Now, the real question: Do the Broncos get to get away with blocks in the back now?

Not til he’s completely overrated.

[Elevation inc]

I all about trying to get a WR in the first 95 picks this draft because the class is pretty deep, but 2 and especially using just our first 2 picks on WR's is not smart at all with Center, Guard, Tackle, CB, DL, LB all bigger needs then 2 separate Wr's......


I think you guys owe War an apology.

No! I stand buy my response. I don't like our Tackles, the CB and interior OL depth is scary and has questions, LB still has question marks in coverage. I wanted a WR and Both Jeudy and Hamler are damn fine prospects especially where they were taken. But I don't think taking Hamler over a T, CB or LB or interior OL was the better move. It happened fine, but I stand by my original opinion and offer no apology.

[Poet]

No! I stand buy my response. I don't like our Tackles, the CB and interior OL depth is scary and has questions, LB still has question marks in coverage. I wanted a WR and Both Jeudy and Hamler are damn fine prospects especially where they were taken. But I don't think taking Hamler over a T, CB or LB or interior OL was the better move. It happened fine, but I stand by my original opinion and offer no apology.

BPA is BPA.

[Elevation inc]

BPA is BPA.

I don't believe he was the BPA at the time. I'm a BPA kinda guy, then BPA at position of need. He was neither BPA nor BPA at a position of need after killing the Jeudy pick. I don't believe taking Hamler over a CB like Johnson or Diggs was a better move. I would have even preferred a trade up for Hunt at guard over Hamler.

[Poet]

I don't believe he was the BPA at the time. I'm a BPA kinda guy, then BPA at position of need. He was neither BPA nor BPA at a position of need after killing the Jeudy pick. I don't believe taking Hamler over a CB like Johnson or Diggs was a better move. I would have even preferred a trade up for Hunt at guard over Hamler.

A very reasonable argument could be made that he was BPA. I can certainly see someone have valid disagreements, but I saw Hamler in some late first rounds and early second rounds. And because of that I think if the BPA is used it's hard to knock because of other positions. That's the thing about BPA - I think people like it until they don't.

Trading for a guard is silly. They're always there in FA. They're easy to find. FFS you can almost 'make' a decent LG just by plugging a bad LT into the spot. That's been the NFL OLine trick forever.

[Elevation inc]

A very reasonable argument could be made that he was BPA. I can certainly see someone have valid disagreements, but I saw Hamler in some late first rounds and early second rounds. And because of that I think if the BPA is used it's hard to knock because of other positions. That's the thing about BPA - I think people like it until they don't.

Trading for a guard is silly. They're always there in FA. They're easy to find. FFS you can almost 'make' a decent LG just by plugging a bad LT into the spot. That's been the NFL OLine trick forever.

Dalton Risner says screw you and wants a RG buddy lol. Having him paired with Hunt would be dominating for our OL. Now we must hope that Cush can plug in at Center day 1, so that Glasgow can play that guard spot. However if Cush cant then Glasgow must move to Center. The other RG option would be Wilkinson or so I thought but he is now challenging Bolles for LT......

Our OL is a issue right now, that is hopes and dreams at the current moment. Maybe it works out but I would have made some more effort on the OL over a 2nd rd WR, after taking the best WR in the draft

[Poet]

Dalton Risner says screw you and wants a RG buddy lol. Having him paired with Hunt would be dominating for our OL. Now we must hope that Cush can plug in at Center day 1, so that Glasgow can play that guard spot. However if Cush cant then Glasgow must move to Center. The other RG option would be Wilkinson or so I thought but he is now challenging Bolles for LT......

Our OL is a issue right now, that is hopes and dreams at the current moment. Maybe it works out but I would have made some more effort on the OL over a 2nd rd WR, after taking the best WR in the draft

Well, considering we drafted Cushenberry to be a center, I should hope he can play center. I guess if we drafted a guard we'd hope he could play, too?

We have a RG. Glasgow. I don't care about 'having a dominating OL' because those don't win SB's. The Cowboys have had an elite OL for half a decade now. They have like one PLAYOFF win. The Tennessee Titans have had an elite line for awhile now...not exactly knocking down deep playoff runs with consistency. The Raiders had a great line, their QB got hurt and then they got smoked in the playoffs. I don't know if Philly had a great line, I know they had two really good tackles. I'd probably grant you that.

[Elevation inc]

Well, considering we drafted Cushenberry to be a center, I should hope he can play center. I guess if we drafted a guard we'd hope he could play, too?

We have a RG. Glasgow. I don't care about 'having a dominating OL' because those don't win SB's. The Cowboys have had an elite OL for half a decade now. They have like one PLAYOFF win. The Tennessee Titans have had an elite line for awhile now...not exactly knocking down deep playoff runs with consistency. The Raiders had a great line, their QB got hurt and then they got smoked in the playoffs. I don't know if Philly had a great line, I know they had two really good tackles. I'd probably grant you that.

Dont be like that. I know we drafted him to play center we drafted lynch to play QB doesn't mean it will work out....my point is, the OL is still a concern going into the season. WR may not be now, but that does us no good if we have a shite OL that cant pass block.....I'm concerned about our OL, Cb position and ILB....Hamler was a luxury. He isn't a bad pick, but no one will convince me he was more needed then upgrading at ILB so we can cover F'in TE's or having a CB option to compete against our scrubs, or even having a competent OL across the board.

[Poet]

Dont be like that. I know we drafted him to play center we drafted lynch to play QB doesn't mean it will work out....my point is, the OL is still a concern going into the season. WR may not be now, but that does us no good if we have a shite OL that cant pass block.....I'm concerned about our OL, Cb position and ILB....Hamler was a luxury. He isn't a bad pick, but no one will convince me he was more needed then upgrading at ILB so we can cover F'in TE's or having a CB option to compete against our scrubs, or even having a competent OL across the board.

I didn't mean to come across negatively. I just look at the C position as solved until otherwise. I want BPA. Hamler had a first round case and an early second round case. I liked the pick. I don't worry about the OL. We have the interior sorted out just fine. The LT play is fine. You can't have depth everywhere, at least consistently. For years and years we let the offense rot so the defense could shine. The last two head coaches we've had are defensive minded guys. It's up to them to coach up the depth. I'm glad we didn't reach for some of those positions. Really, really glad.

[Simple Jaded]

Well, considering we drafted Cushenberry to be a center, I should hope he can play center. I guess if we drafted a guard we'd hope he could play, too?

We have a RG. Glasgow. I don't care about 'having a dominating OL' because those don't win SB's. The Cowboys have had an elite OL for half a decade now. They have like one PLAYOFF win. The Tennessee Titans have had an elite line for awhile now...not exactly knocking down deep playoff runs with consistency. The Raiders had a great line, their QB got hurt and then they got smoked in the playoffs. I don't know if Philly had a great line, I know they had two really good tackles. I'd probably grant you that.
Shitty OL = Domination.

[Simple Jaded]

No! I stand buy my response. I don't like our Tackles, the CB and interior OL depth is scary and has questions, LB still has question marks in coverage. I wanted a WR and Both Jeudy and Hamler are damn fine prospects especially where they were taken. But I don't think taking Hamler over a T, CB or LB or interior OL was the better move. It happened fine, but I stand by my original opinion and offer no apology.
War predicted this, nothing more than that. I’m not even sure he likes his prediction.

[Poet]

Shitty OL = Domination.

You're right and I'm wrong.

[Simple Jaded]

You're right and I'm wrong.


RRzsv4vHNDs

[Poet]

You are smarter than I, Jaded.