What is the best new phone?

[Buff]

My Google Pixel 1 has been glitching more often lately - so I'm ready to upgrade. The battery life is also pretty shitty.

Prior to this I had an iphone - then switching to Android was pretty jarring. I'm kind of indifferent on ios vs. android - but the lack of a headphone jack has me nervous.

I also don't like the giant displays - I kind of like the size of the 5" Android (that's what she said). Is 5G a gamechanger? Any strong feelings on the iphone 11 vs the Galaxy 10?

[MOtorboat]

I really like the iPhone X I got a little over a month ago, but they also kind of have me roped in with my iTunes subscription. The battery life is actually kind of amazing. I go a full 16 hour day from waking up to going to bed and it only drains about 60 percent. I don’t watch a lot of video, that does drain it a little more. Also, the headphones just plug into the port now.

[Shazam!]

Android for the W

LG has come a long way

[NightTrainLayne]

I enjoy my Galaxy s10. Battery life is great. Works great.

[BroncoWave]

I enjoy my Galaxy s10. Battery life is great. Works great.

Yeah it has awesome battery life.

[Hawgdriver]

My Google Pixel 1 has been glitching more often lately - so I'm ready to upgrade. The battery life is also pretty shitty.

Prior to this I had an iphone - then switching to Android was pretty jarring. I'm kind of indifferent on ios vs. android - but the lack of a headphone jack has me nervous.

I also don't like the giant displays - I kind of like the size of the 5" Android (that's what she said). Is 5G a gamechanger? Any strong feelings on the iphone 11 vs the Galaxy 10?

I'm the wrong person to ask. I've been using the cheap LG smartphone from cricket with the big ass battery. The battery in that thing is the truth, and while the camera on it sucks, I have never thought to myself "damn my phone is dead again." More like "shit I haven't charged this thing in almost a week, guess I've been remiss."

For me that is perfect.

[slim]

I have a Pixel 3. I'm not really much of tech guy, so I don't know how it compares to other phones, but it has been pretty flawless.

I don't have to charge my battery at all during the day (same as MO, said above), so the battery life is nice.

[FanInAZ]

If all goes as plan, I’ll be in the market for a new phone the 1st of next year that can handle the demands of driving for Doordash. I drove briefly for Lyft last October with my current LG phone, but both the battery & the RAM were inadequate to run their App. What I’ll need is an Android phone that has the longest life battery & most RAM possible. That’s all. I don’t need a toy with a bunch of teenee-bopper non-sense that serves no real purpose but to jack up the price of the phone, I'll just need a work tool.

[BroncoWave]

Can you not keep the phone plugged in while driving?

[FanInAZ]

Can you not keep the phone plugged in while driving?

I did, the Lyft App drew so much of my phone's resources that it drained my battery faster then it could be recharged by plugging it into the car's USB port.

[WTE]

Casio.

[MOtorboat]

If all goes as plan, I’ll be in the market for a new phone the 1st of next year that can handle the demands of driving for Doordash. I drove briefly for Lyft last October with my current LG phone, but both the battery & the RAM were inadequate to run their App. What I’ll need is an Android phone that has the longest life battery & most RAM possible. That’s all. I don’t need a toy with a bunch of teenee-bopper non-sense that serves no real purpose but to jack up the price of the phone, I'll just need a work tool.

You need a new phone. I’d driven an old iPhone into the ground and it did stuff like that. Only solution is a new phone.

[underrated29]

Ive had the galaxy note 9 for a while now. Best phone I have ever had. NOt sure if it has been 1 or 2 years now, but its pretty sweet.

I am hard on my phones though. I use them round the clock for work or games and stuff. So my battery is pretty shot. Initially the batter was great but I have beaten the hell out of it. I usually have to charge mine 2x a day. Not a big deal as at work my desk has a usb for charging and I charge in the car when needed and at home.

Still, that is my biggest complaint. I used to have apple. Liked it a bunch too. Like my droid better. Sorry I am not too helpful.

[SR]

I'm an iPhone guy. I've never had a problem with any of my iPhones with the exception of one I had years ago that the home button got stuck on, but it popped back out after a good rapping with my knuckle. Shattered the screen on one when I dropped it on a sidewalk. Other than that, they're great. Had my iPhone 8s Plus for two years now. The battery sucks, but Apple has fixed the battery problems. Looking at upgrading to an 11 Pro in the next month or so.

[BroncoJoe]

Ive had the galaxy note 9 for a while now. Best phone I have ever had. NOt sure if it has been 1 or 2 years now, but its pretty sweet.

I am hard on my phones though. I use them round the clock for work or games and stuff. So my battery is pretty shot. Initially the batter was great but I have beaten the hell out of it. I usually have to charge mine 2x a day. Not a big deal as at work my desk has a usb for charging and I charge in the car when needed and at home.

Still, that is my biggest complaint. I used to have apple. Liked it a bunch too. Like my droid better. Sorry I am not too helpful.

Just fire up your pink extra!

[Timmy!]

If all goes as plan, I’ll be in the market for a new phone the 1st of next year that can handle the demands of driving for Doordash. I drove briefly for Lyft last October with my current LG phone, but both the battery & the RAM were inadequate to run their App. What I’ll need is an Android phone that has the longest life battery & most RAM possible. That’s all. I don’t need a toy with a bunch of teenee-bopper non-sense that serves no real purpose but to jack up the price of the phone, I'll just need a work tool.

No you dont. I have a year old Samsung Galaxy Luna Pro. Less than $100 new. I run uber driver, lyft driver, chrome, Facebook and flight radar apps all at the same time with no prob. It has crap for storage space isnt super quick, but it works. Your phone is just a dinosaur.

Buff- android master race man.

[BroncoJoe]

Apple definitely makes a superior product - to what degree is negotiable. Both phones and computers.

I just hate how they're so controlling/proprietary. It's my damn phone, and I'll do with it what I see fit. That's the biggest reason I normally buy a Samsung or other Android based phone.

[BroncoWave]

Apple definitely makes a superior product - to what degree is negotiable. Both phones and computers.

I just hate how they're so controlling/proprietary. It's my damn phone, and I'll do with it what I see fit. That's the biggest reason I normally buy a Samsung or other Android based phone.

"Apple definitely makes a superior product"

"But here are the reasons Android is better and I buy them instead of iPhones"

[SR]

"Apple definitely makes a superior product"

"But here are the reasons Android is better and I buy them instead of iPhones"

That's not what he said. He said that the Apple products are built and run better but he likes the open source and freedom of Android OS better than iOS.

[BroncoJoe]

"Apple definitely makes a superior product"

"But here are the reasons Android is better and I buy them instead of iPhones"

You left out "to what degree is negotiable".

The fact you can't actually "own" an apple product, and do what you want to do with it is a HUGE downside to me.

[underrated29]

Just fire up your pink extra!

Its not pink its muave!

A schooner is a sailboat!

[BroncoJoe]

This is like the Tesla vs. gas cars debate!

(Note to SR - I didn't use the term ICE!)

[BroncoJoe]

That's not what he said. He said that the Apple products are built and run better but he likes the open source and freedom of Android OS better than iOS.

He's the Adam Schiff of BroncosForums!

:couch:

[BroncoWave]

That's not what he said. He said that the Apple products are built and run better but he likes the open source and freedom of Android OS better than iOS.

He actually didn't. He just said "apple makes a superior product".

[FanInAZ]

You need a new phone. I’d driven an old iPhone into the ground and it did stuff like that. Only solution is a new phone.


No you dont. I have a year old Samsung Galaxy Luna Pro. Less than $100 new. I run uber driver, lyft driver, chrome, Facebook and flight radar apps all at the same time with no prob. It has crap for storage space isnt super quick, but it works. Your phone is just a dinosaur.

Buff- android master race man.

It was the cheapest LG phone that I could buy brand new from the T-Mobile store just 5 months before I started driving.

[SR]

This is like the Tesla vs. gas cars debate!

(Note to SR - I didn't use the term ICE!)

Thanks bud!

[SR]

He actually didn't. He just said "apple makes a superior product".

You're arguing semantics, and I'm arguing your interpretation of what Joseph's point actually was. Apples to apples, sir. Quit being such a Tesla.

[BroncoWave]

You're arguing semantics, and I'm arguing your interpretation of what Joseph's point actually was. Apples to apples, sir. Quit being such a Tesla.

Maybe Joe should be more clear next time!

[BroncoJoe]

He actually didn't. He just said "apple makes a superior product".

Fake news. "He just said..." is completely out of context.

[Buff]

Guys the mods are on their way - I want everyone to just cool it.

[BroncoJoe]

Maybe Joe should be more clear next time!


Apple definitely makes a superior product - to what degree is negotiable. Both phones and computers.

I just hate how they're so controlling/proprietary. It's my damn phone, and I'll do with it what I see fit. That's the biggest reason I normally buy a Samsung or other Android based phone.

I'm not sure how more clear I could be!

[BroncoWave]

I'm not sure how more clear I could be!

You said they make a superior product while then explaining why it's not superior. It might be superior in the one area of certain tech specs, but if you're buying the Android, it's the overall superior product, at least as voted on by your wallet.

[BroncoJoe]

You said they make a superior product while then explaining why it's not superior. It might be superior in the one area of certain tech specs, but if you're buying the Android, it's the overall superior product, at least as voted on by your wallet.

Fine. I should have referenced the hardware aspect of my comment initially.

Now, G.F.Y.

:D

[Valar Morghulis]

I have a iphone xs ..... Big fan.

But I am an apple guy through and through.

[Poet]

I’ve never had an issue with my iPhone. I might not stick with apple though - the contract deal with a new phone always brought me back. Since that’s gone now...who knows.

[MOtorboat]

Can someone help me understand what they do to apps on the Android that I can’t do on the iPhone? I’ve never understood this.

[Timmy!]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Nokia_5110.jpg/220px-Nokia_5110.jpg

[SR]

You said they make a superior product while then explaining why it's not superior. It might be superior in the one area of certain tech specs, but if you're buying the Android, it's the overall superior product, at least as voted on by your wallet.

No. He said why he prefers to use another phone. Saying why he prefers to use a different phone is not to infer that the phone he chooses to use is superior than the one he doesn't. One does not equal the other.

[SR]

Can someone help me understand what they do to apps on the Android that I can’t do on the iPhone? I’ve never understood this.

Open sources versus closed source. Apple doesn't allow the latter.

[MOtorboat]

Open sources versus closed source. Apple doesn't allow the latter.

Right. I get this, but what does that actually mean?

[BroncoWave]

No. He said why he prefers to use another phone. Saying why he prefers to use a different phone is not to infer that the phone he chooses to use is superior than the one he doesn't. One does not equal the other.

Why would you buy the inferior product when choosing between two things at pretty much the same price point?

[SR]

Right. I get this, but what does that actually mean?

https://api2cart.com/business/5-differences-between-open-source-and-closed-source-software/

[SR]

Why would you buy the inferior product when choosing between two things at pretty much the same price point?

As Joe said, he prefers the freedom that Android provides versus the more restrictive iOS. His personal preference of the operating system has nothing to do with his opinion of which product is superior.

[Poet]

I like french fries.

[BroncoWave]

As Joe said, he prefers the freedom that Android provides versus the more restrictive iOS. His personal preference of the operating system has nothing to do with his opinion of which product is superior.

Usability is just as important as specs though, if not moreso. Apple can have better specs while overall being a worse product due to usability. In any case, Joe has already said his original post sucked and should have been worded better. :D

[MOtorboat]

https://api2cart.com/business/5-differences-between-open-source-and-closed-source-software/

This basically tells me nothing.

[BroncoWave]

Kinda hard to even accurately compare specs though because Apple doesn't disclose the RAM or battery capacity of their phones.

[FanInAZ]

Right. I get this, but what does that actually mean?

Same thing as Apple vs. Windows from day 1. 100x greater verity of Apps/programs because everyone is allowed create Windows/Android Apps/programs vs. greater quality control over the Apps that are produced because only Apple is allowed to make Apps/programs.

[slim]

This basically tells me nothing.

Let it be!

[SR]

Usability is just as important as specs though, if not moreso. Apple can have better specs while overall being a worse product due to usability. In any case, Joe has already said his original post sucked and should have been worded better. :D

I'm just being the devil's advocate.

[SR]

Same thing as Apple vs. Windows from day 1. 100x greater verity of Apps/programs because everyone is allowed create Windows/Android Apps/programs vs. greater quality control over the Apps that are produced because only Apple is allowed to make Apps/programs.

False.

[BroncoWave]

I'm just being the devil's advocate.

Well at least we can both agree that Joe is the devil. :D

[SR]

Well at least we can both agree that Joe is the devil. :D

There you go with your misinterpretations again.

[wayninja]

False.

Correct, but he's just referring to Apple's walled garden. Which is absolutely more restrictive.

[MOtorboat]

So are there apps I can’t get? What are these apps and why do I need them? Do the apps I can get do something different?

[FanInAZ]

False.

So Apple now contracts to outside companies to produce Apps/programs? Nevertheless, isn't it still true that they are still more restrictive as to who can & can't make Apps/programs then Windows/Android?

[BroncoJoe]

Buff, just get what ever the hell you feel like getting. Knowing you, you'll still complain about it.

:yo:

[BroncoJoe]

So Apple now contracts to outside companies to produce Apps/programs? Nevertheless, isn't it still true that they are still more restrictive as to who can & can't make Apps/programs then Windows/Android?

Not really - they just go through a more restrictive approval process. Virtually anyone can build and market an android app - not true with apple.

[FanInAZ]

So are there apps I can’t get? What are these apps and why do I need them? Do the apps I can get do something different?

I don't know about Apple, but you can get at least a half dozen versions of Battleship, chess, solitaire, etc., ranging from garbage versions to adequate.

[SR]

So Apple now contracts to outside companies to produce Apps/programs? Nevertheless, isn't it still true that they are still more restrictive as to who can & can't make Apps/programs then Windows/Android?

Apple doesn't create the apps. The Waze app is not created by Apple. The Weather Channel app is not created by Apple. So on and so forth. They are very much more restrictive, but their software and tightassness is what keeps their OS running so smoothly.

[BroncoJoe]

Usability is just as important as specs though, if not moreso. Apple can have better specs while overall being a worse product due to usability. In any case, Joe has already said his original post sucked and should have been worded better. :D


Well at least we can both agree that Joe is the devil. :D

You are the MSNBC of BroncosForums!

[MOtorboat]

I don't know about Apple, but you can get at least a half dozen versions of Battleship, chess, solitaire, etc., ranging from garbage versions to adequate.

There has to be more to this than homemade Battleship apps. Anyone?

[Buff]

You are the MSNBC of BroncosForums!

I overlooked your first misstep - but now I have no choice but to demand you G-T-F-O of my thread. You're all on thin ice here.

[FanInAZ]

There has to be more to this than homemade Battleship apps. Anyone?

I'm pretty sure that at least 99.9% of the quality apps that you can get on 1 you can also get on the other.

[BroncoJoe]

I overlooked your first misstep - but now I have no choice but to demand you G-T-F-O of my thread. You're all on thin ice here.

BroncoWave is now officially Rachel Maddow to me.

There. I said it.

[slim]

Apple doesn't create the apps. The Waze app is not created by Apple. The Weather Channel app is not created by Apple. So on and so forth. They are very much more restrictive, but their software and tightassness is what keeps their OS running so smoothly.

Tell me moar about this tightassness.

I may have to give apple a closer look.

[Hawgdriver]

Tell me moar about this tightassness.

I may have to give apple a closer look.

Slim <3 Apple's turdcutter.

[Slick]

I have an iPhone 8 Plus. I’m not sure what a newer phone can do that this one doesn’t. The technology seems maxed out at this point. The only thing that changes are the cameras.

[BroncoWave]

I have an iPhone 8 Plus. I’m not sure what a newer phone can do that this one doesn’t. The technology seems maxed out at this point. The only thing that changes are the cameras.

The newer phones typically get more storage space, higher battery capacity, and more RAM. They definitely get a bit better year by year. Probably not by enough to get a new one every year, but I think it's worth it to upgrade every 2-3 years.

[MOtorboat]

The newer phones typically get more storage space, higher battery capacity, and more RAM. They definitely get a bit better year by year. Probably not by enough to get a new one every year, but I think it's worth it to upgrade every 2-3 years.

I’m not a very good example, but I waited twice that and drove a phone into the ground. I’ve been kind of blown away by this phone, but I’m not naive as to why, I had a really old version that was dying.

[BroncoWave]

I’m not a very good example, but I waited twice that and drove a phone into the ground. I’ve been kind of blown away by this phone, but I’m not naive as to why, I had a really old version that was dying.

I'm like UR in that I use my phone pretty heavily for things like games and streaming so mine are usually pretty bad after 2 years. I don't even own a laptop anymore and I have a tablet that pretty much collects dust, so I do pretty much everything online on my phone.

[wayninja]

Right. I get this, but what does that actually mean?

For apps that exist on both platforms, it means almost nothing. Other than the device specific gestures and other idiosyncrasies, the apps are effectively identical.

The difference is in the marketplaces. Apple operates as a "walled garden", which basically that means that if a developer writes an app and wants to sell it in the apple marketplace, it needs to be "approved" by apple first. The approval process costs more for developers for apple than it does for android. Android has basically the opposite philosophy where all applications are allowed and only removed if some information about why they should be removed comes to light.

What this ends up meaning, is that more developers want to write their applications for Android. It's simply less of a hassle all around. That's why Androids marketplace has steadily grown faster than Apples and now is about 20% larger, and that gap is growing every day. Ultimately though, the most popular apps are on both platforms. You can also sideload apps on android (which is just a fancy way of saying loading stuff that's not on the official store), which you can't do on iOS.

Android devices tend to be more financially competitive than Apples as well. That's not to say it's the exact same hardware and design and a lower cost, just that the bang for your buck on Android devices tend to be higher (you pay for the Apple name).

The biggest thing for me though, is the customization options that the Android OS has that Apple just doesn't. Apples whole philosophy is "you shouldn't need to change anything, because our way is the right way". Android offers WAY more ability to tweak the OS to your liking and even exposes elements of the base UI to be accessible by 3rd party apps so you can truly work the way you want to.

[MOtorboat]

For apps that exist on both platforms, it means almost nothing. Other than the device specific gestures and other idiosyncrasies, the apps are effectively identical.

The difference is in the marketplaces. Apple operates as a "walled garden", which basically that means that if a developer writes an app and wants to sell it in the apple marketplace, it needs to be "approved" by apple first. The approval process costs more for developers for apple than it does for android. Android has basically the opposite philosophy where all applications are allowed and only removed if some information about why they should be removed comes to light.

What this ends up meaning, is that more developers want to write their applications for Android. It's simply less of a hassle all around. That's why Androids marketplace has steadily grown faster than Apples and now is about 20% larger, and that gap is growing every day. Ultimately though, the most popular apps are on both platforms. You can also sideload apps on android (which is just a fancy way of saying loading stuff that's not on the official store), which you can't do on iOS.

Android devices tend to be more financially competitive than Apples as well. That's not to say it's the exact same hardware and design and a lower cost, just that the bang for your buck on Android devices tend to be higher (you pay for the Apple name).

The biggest thing for me though, is the customization options that the Android OS has that Apple just doesn't. Apples whole philosophy is "you shouldn't need to change anything, because our way is the right way". Android offers WAY more ability to tweak the OS to your liking and even exposes elements of the base UI to be accessible by 3rd party apps so you can truly work the way you want to.

Thanks, this makes a little more sense. But I still just have no clue what that last bit means. Work the way you want? Like do what? And I owned an Android at one time. I don’t understand what you’re changing.

[wayninja]

Thanks, this makes a little more sense. But I still just have no clue what that last bit means. Work the way you want? Like do what? And I owned an Android at one time. I don’t understand what you’re changing.

It's vague because it's so broad. You can change layout of the homescreen, add widgets and shortcuts or even manipulate the entire interface by using a launcher.

It requires that you KNOW what you want to do. If you are happy with the default workflow/interface of the iOS, it's not a big deal. But for folks that expect to be able to refine how they work over time, iOS just sucks for that.

[BroncoWave]

Here are some things you can do on Android but not iPhone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/11-things-my-android-phone-does-way-better-than-your-iphone/

[Poet]

It does feel like I personally would gain nothing from one over the other. Whatever the better deal is, I suppose.

[MOtorboat]

It's vague because it's so broad. You can change layout of the homescreen, add widgets and shortcuts or even manipulate the entire interface by using a launcher.

It requires that you KNOW what you want to do. If you are happy with the default workflow/interface of the iOS, it's not a big deal. But for folks that expect to be able to refine how they work over time, iOS just sucks for that.


Here are some things you can do on Android but not iPhone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/11-things-my-android-phone-does-way-better-than-your-iphone/

I guess I just don’t see much of a difference other than I could put widgets on my home screen, but my experiences with those on an old Android was more useless and power zapping than anything, and I can link shortcuts, which is the one thing I might use.

Eh. I’m happy with my iPhone.

[BroncoWave]

The hardware is a big thing for me too. The lack of USB-C and a headphone jack sucks.

[BroncoWave]

I also couldn't live without a back button.

[slim]

It does feel like I personally would gain nothing from one over the other. Whatever the better deal is, I suppose.

Unless you are a nerd, none of it matters

[BroncoWave]

I totally forgot to mention swipe keyboard as well. That's the number one reason I could never go back to iPhone. Whenever I have to use my wife's phone for anything I feel like a neanderthal have to type letter by letter.

[Poet]

The hardware is a big thing for me too. The lack of USB-C and a headphone jack sucks.

I am guilty of being an Airpods owner.

[slim]

I totally forgot to mention swipe keyboard as well. That's the number one reason I could never go back to iPhone. Whenever I have to use my wife's phone for anything I feel like a neanderthal have to type letter by letter.

You sound like a guy that would enjoy a Tesla

[Poet]

You sound like a guy that would enjoy a Tesla

I want you to make a car called a Slimla.

[slim]

I want you to make a car called a Slimla.

My son and I were talking about this on the way home from his football game. Only it's not a car, it's next level...think teleportation.

[Poet]

My son and I were talking about this on the way home from his football game. Only it's not a car, it's next level...think teleportation.

My god...I'd never have to walk again!!!!

[slim]

My god...I'd never have to walk again!!!!

Walking and pants are so overrated!

[ShaneFalco]

i love my note.

[Valar Morghulis]

I totally forgot to mention swipe keyboard as well. That's the number one reason I could never go back to iPhone. Whenever I have to use my wife's phone for anything I feel like a neanderthal have to type letter by letter.

I have a swpye keyboard on my iPhone

[slim]

I have a swpye keyboard on my iPhone

Yeah, but is your phone a Tesla?

[Valar Morghulis]

Yeah, but is your phone a Tesla?

No. It is an hummus

[Rick]

Just upgraded from iPhone X to Samsung Galaxy Note 10+, and Apple Watch 3 to Samsung Gear Active 2.

So far like the Note 10+ more than the iPhone X and so far like the Apple Watch I had more than the Gear.

The phone is more important though so so far Samsung is winning my current upgrade.

[Davii]

The Note 10+ is a beast. Love it.

[slim]

My Google Pixel 3 has a camera in it.

[Davii]

My Google Pixel 3 has a camera in it.

So does your home office. I've said too much.

[Rick]

The Note 10+ is a beast. Love it.

Hey Davi, are you able to send texts/make calls on the phone when it's locked with a google assistant? I can only seem to do this with Bixby, google tells me that the phone has to be unlocked to do that which defeats the purpose.

[Davii]

Hey Davi, are you able to send texts/make calls on the phone when it's locked with a google assistant? I can only seem to do this with Bixby, google tells me that the phone has to be unlocked to do that which defeats the purpose.

If you have it locked with a password, pin, fingerprint, etc, No. It would defeat the purpose of the security and allow people to use your phone without permission.

However, you can set it to stay unlocked when doing certain things. For instance, if it's connected to your vehicle bluetooth you can set it to stay unlocked so you can do all the voice commands, etc. Or you could use Android auto while driving.

[Rick]

If you have it locked with a password, pin, fingerprint, etc, No. It would defeat the purpose of the security and allow people to use your phone without permission.


I have the finger print and facial but this works perfectly fine with Bixby through the lock screen, same security issue as google would be...

Must be Samsung trying to make theirs the king of the hill.

[Davii]

I have the finger print and facial but this works perfectly fine with Bixby through the lock screen, same security issue as google would be...

Must be Samsung trying to make theirs the king of the hill.

I think it's a flaw of Samsung's security.

[Rick]

Thinking on it it probably isn't that big a deal.

When directly using the phone I can be looking at it and the facial ID will kick in and use google for everything.

When not holding the phone I can use the watch to initialize a call/text. Only thing that sucks about the watch is I swear Bixby needs a damn hearing aid.

[Rick]

I have the finger print and facial but this works perfectly fine with Bixby through the lock screen, same security issue as google would be...

Must be Samsung trying to make theirs the king of the hill.

I think I am a liar. tested this on my way home and it looks like Bixby on the phone requests the biometric unlock just like google does.

[Davii]

I think I am a liar. tested this on my way home and it looks like Bixby on the phone requests the biometric unlock just like google does.

If you don't need the security and having it unlocked is more important remove the biometrics and it'll work fine. If you need the security start using Android auto when you drive and the phone will remain usable without unlocking throughout the drive

[Simple Jaded]

I didn’t know I don’t own my Apple shit.

[Buff]

Google Pixel finally died today. Ordered a new iphone - crossing over to the apple darkside again.

[Poet]

Google Pixel finally died today. Ordered a new iphone - crossing over to the apple darkside again.

Good for you, dammit.

[Shazam!]

I'm Android all the way. I converted wifey too.

[aberdien]

I'm waiting on my iPhone SE to show up at my doorstep. My first new phone since May 2015. Exciting.

[Davii]

I'm waiting on my iPhone SE to show up at my doorstep. My first new phone since May 2015. Exciting.

I thought I was going to have to get an iPhone since the company makes some of our own apps for work and they were designed for iPhone.

I was wrong. Thank God.

[aberdien]

I don't understand the iPhone hate. I've only had one iPhone and it's lasted me a long time, no screen cracks, and everything works just fine.

[Shazam!]

I don't understand the iPhone hate. I've only had one iPhone and it's lasted me a long time, no screen cracks, and everything works just fine.

Because you are tethered to only their ecosystem

Some things you have to pay for that are Android for free.

Price- Even a mid tier Android has the same features for a fraction of the price

Screen durability at least Was a supreme problem for users

Forced updates that drag older models forces people to upgrade that didn't have to normally get a new phone

Slew of deep customization options that Apple doesn't allow

Camera of top Samsung and LG and even lesser models are comparable and have come a long way to iphones

[CoachChaz]

I've always used Android phones and have never personally had any problems with them. For work, I am forced to use a MacBook after years of only using Windows PCs. Quite honestly...they all do the same shit...just differently. So a preference in one or the other really just seems to come down to which OS you have grown comfortable with.

[Dapper Dan]

I'm waiting on my iPhone SE to show up at my doorstep. My first new phone since May 2015. Exciting.

I got one but I think I will stick with my X and let my daughters use the SE.

[Dapper Dan]

I think the argument is the same as XBOX versus Playstation. I think it's more of whatever you're used to.

[Hawgdriver]

I like how Apple programmed in battery failure a while back. Clever way to drive up cashflow.

[Davii]

I like how Apple programmed in battery failure a while back. Clever way to drive up cashflow.

Brilliant! Forced upgrades.

That is why I will never pay for an Apple product. I have a work issued iPad, don't even own an ipod.

Between the planned obsolescence and the ridiculously restrictive ecosystem, I'm out.

[Shazam!]

**** 🍎

[NightTrainLayne]

Brilliant! Forced upgrades.

That is why I will never pay for an Apple product. I have a work issued iPad, don't even own an ipod.

Between the planned obsolescence and the ridiculously restrictive ecosystem, I'm out.



I've had a Chromebook for several years, and have really enjoyed it for my goof off web browsing social media stuff. It links with my Android phone seemlessly. Of course, Big Brother Google being in the middle of all my shit is worrisome on some level, but it's the same for Apple users.

However, I got a little peeved last Fall when I suddenly got a notice that the update that was ready to install was the last one I'd receive. It would no longer be supported, no more updates, putting security at risk because no more security patches etc.

It was the first I'd heard of it, but I found out at that point that all Chromebooks have a planned end of service date where they will no longer receive updates. Planned obsolescence at its finest.

I purchased a new Chromebook, and I still love them, but I researched and did so knowing exactly when the end of service date was, and factored that heavily into my purchase.

#1 - I'm not going to pay top dollar for an expensive Chromebook knowing that it has an expiration date.

#2- I'm not going to buy a Chromebook that I have to turn around and replace in 2 years.

I settled on an Acer Spin 11. It has all the features I like - touch screen/fold over tablet style with a full keyboard etc. It's end of service date is July 2024, so I've got a little over 4 years, and the price through Best Buy was $279.00

All-in-all I think it's a fair value. Still upsets me that Google has begun doing similar planned obsolescence schemes as Apple. On the plus side, at least you can find the expiration date. It's not something like battery life or slower processing that just kind of comes out of the blue at you as with Apple.

[Davii]

I've had a Chromebook for several years, and have really enjoyed it for my goof off web browsing social media stuff. It links with my Android phone seemlessly. Of course, Big Brother Google being in the middle of all my shit is worrisome on some level, but it's the same for Apple users.

However, I got a little peeved last Fall when I suddenly got a notice that the update that was ready to install was the last one I'd receive. It would no longer be supported, no more updates, putting security at risk because no more security patches etc.

It was the first I'd heard of it, but I found out at that point that all Chromebooks have a planned end of service date where they will no longer receive updates. Planned obsolescence at its finest.

I purchased a new Chromebook, and I still love them, but I researched and did so knowing exactly when the end of service date was, and factored that heavily into my purchase.

#1 - I'm not going to pay top dollar for an expensive Chromebook knowing that it has an expiration date.

#2- I'm not going to buy a Chromebook that I have to turn around and replace in 2 years.

I settled on an Acer Spin 11. It has all the features I like - touch screen/fold over tablet style with a full keyboard etc. It's end of service date is July 2024, so I've got a little over 4 years, and the price through Best Buy was $279.00

All-in-all I think it's a fair value. Still upsets me that Google has begun doing similar planned obsolescence schemes as Apple. On the plus side, at least you can find the expiration date. It's not something like battery life or slower processing that just kind of comes out of the blue at you as with Apple.

Correct, Google is upfront about it and tells you the date they will stop supporting. That's a far cry from what Apple does.

It's ridiculous to think any technology company will support a product with ongoing updates forever, but it should be clear when that end date is so I can factor that into a pricing decision. Especially when their top end phones are over $1,000 now

[aberdien]

I dunno, my iphone lasted 5 years and could've gone at least a year longer. No scratches, no issues other than the battery life (which I managed just fine while living in a place where I couldn't just plug my phone in whenever I wanted), being technologically behind somewhat, and probably having too much stuff on my 16GB phone making it run slow. But it lasted 5 years.

I submit human beings are just spoiled.

[Slick]

I still have an Apple 5c and a 6 both with my Mexican number and TelCel SIM cards that work flawlessly. Both of those phones went to the beach all the time, on the dive boat and survived the harsh Caribbean climate.

I’ve got an 8 plus through Spectrum with US number. I think Apple phones are great. Also have the latest 128g iPad.

I used a Samsung Note tablet for years too. I like both platforms.

[Shazam!]

My last LG Android phone I had for 4 years with no problem.

[GEM]

I just got the Samsung S20 a month ago. Love it so far. The no phone jack with these current high cost phones is ******* stupid though. I can have the same phone for 4+ years. This was the first phone I have ever bought that was higher than $350. I don't know that it was worth it's $900 price tag, but then again, I'm not a tech junkie.

I have never owned an Apple anything. I laugh at all the morons in their store at the mall and in lines to buy the next phone when they haven't even paid off the last one.

[Shazam!]

I always knew you were an Android chick Gem.

[aberdien]

My brand new iPhone was cheaper than your brand new Samsung!

What I can't understand is why my new phone came with earphones (not airpods) in the box. As if I can even plug them into the phone. Dumb.

It's not like it's the end of the world because I never use earphones and I can't think of any reason why I would use the headphone jack...but still.

[Buff]

My brand new iPhone was cheaper than your brand new Samsung!

What I can't understand is why my new phone came with earphones (not airpods) in the box. As if I can even plug them into the phone. Dumb.

It's not like it's the end of the world because I never use earphones and I can't think of any reason why I would use the headphone jack...but still.

I got the SE as well -- you'll notice the headphone connector at the end of the cord is the same adapter as the charger, not a traditional headphone jack. So you can plug them in. But I agree it's dumb that they're trying to phase out headphone with cords but apparently too cheap to include the air pods as standard. I'd previously received air pods as a gift so I kind of lucked out there.

[Strafen]

I qualify for a "free" iPhone 13 by trading my iPhone 8 which is in excellent condition in. I have AT&T but it's ridiculous how much a family plan is. I've been contemplating Verizon for best coverage I think, Sprint doesn't have a very good coverage where I live.
Who you have as your phone carrier?
Pros and cons?

[slimeball]

Okay, good question. I'm in the market for an upgrade but I'm undecided.

I hate Google and their invasions of privacy but they have great battery life. Apple has a repair con game going on where they grossly overestimate repair price to manipulate into buying a new phone or computer.

So I'm stuck. Also I'm not sure if the reception of both brands. Something with good reception in interior areas away from windows in a place like ACC? My current does quite well most times. I'd like to retain that. It's a Droid.

[Davii]

Okay, good question. I'm in the market for an upgrade but I'm undecided.

I hate Google and their invasions of privacy but they have great battery life. Apple has a repair con game going on where they grossly overestimate repair price to manipulate into buying a new phone or computer.

So I'm stuck. Also I'm not sure if the reception of both brands. Something with good reception in interior areas away from windows in a place like ACC? My current does quite well most times. I'd like to retain that. It's a Droid.

Your reception is more a function of your chosen carrier than phone. To be Frank: hardware wise the top level phones are all the same. There is no quality difference between the top iPhone or Samsung models, etc. The difference is the UI, if you like Android I’d recommend sticking with it. If you like Apple stick with that.

I’m six months into the switch and there are features I miss on my android but if I were to go back there’s features I’d miss on the iPhone as well.

My battery life on my iPhone is better than it was with the Note 20. I also feel Apple does a better job of protecting my privacy. Whether that is fluff and bs from Apple I don’t know but I do like how I get specifically asked with every single app whether I want it to allow tracking me, sharing data, etc. of course you get the questions on android for mic, camera, etc and you get that with apple as well but I don’t recall ever having privacy questions asked on an app from Play store

[chazoe60]

I'm a One+ lifer. I have tried many different phones but have come to the realization that One+ is my brand. I just get along with them better, I think it's just so subjective. People rave about Samsung but I hated the last two of them I tried.

We have Jump on Demand through T-Mobile so I have been able to try a shit ton of phones as long as they are under $800 it doesn't cost me any extra than just the monthly payment which for most phones I've tried is around $25/month.

Possibly I'd like the higher end phones better but I don't want to spend $250-500 cash out of pocket to find out.

[Davii]

I'm a One+ lifer. I have tried many different phones but have come to the realization that One+ is my brand. I just get along with them better, I think it's just so subjective. People rave about Samsung but I hated the last two of them I tried.

We have Jump on Demand through T-Mobile so I have been able to try a shit ton of phones as long as they are under $800 it doesn't cost me any extra than just the monthly payment which for most phones I've tried is around $25/month.

Possibly I'd like the higher end phones better but I don't want to spend $250-500 cash out of pocket to find out.

You’d probably be very happy with the higher end phones. 250-500 worth of happy? Probably not, all depends on your needs and uses

[Hawgdriver]

I need to get a phone with a killer camera. I'm debating Pixel or Samsung. Battery life has been the sole priority to this point.

[Davii]

I need to get a phone with a killer camera. I'm debating Pixel or Samsung. Battery life has been the sole priority to this point.

My wife has the newest Samsung, I have the newest iPhone. I don’t see any separation camera wise between the two

[Hawgdriver]

My wife has the newest Samsung, I have the newest iPhone. I don’t see any separation camera wise between the two

How about night sky stuff?

[King87]

Whichever one has more style.

[underrated29]

I just got the S22 Ultra last week. Love it!

As with most phones I cannot really tell the difference between any of them. I am hard on my phones though. Battery passes the test. its fast. Has tons of features I do not know yet. Its fast enough to compute my work stuff while on work calls without chop or delay or lag on the processing. Is it a million times better than my old galaxy note 9? Maybe. I have no idea. Maybe not.