WOULD YOU RATHER: 1997 or 2013

[DenBronx]

Stealing this from Andrew Mason.

WOULD YOU RATHER

The Broncos beat the Jaguars Jan 1997?

OR

The Broncos beat the Ravens Jan 2013?

[BroncoJoe]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.

[The Glue Factory]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.

Or the absence of the rage from losing to the Jaguars would have resulted in fewer (including zero) championships.

[BroncoJoe]

Or the absence of the rage from losing to the Jaguars would have resulted in fewer (including zero) championships.

Nah. I might buy into Elway retiring a year earlier than he did, but that team was extremely talented.

[DenBronx]

As much as I want to say the Jags I think that SB would of been harder. However, the 3-peat would of been nice.

We would of smoked the 49ers.

[NightTrainLayne]

That's tough. I chose '97 in the poll because I think that was a legit "team for the ages" and they don't get the respect that they should.

[MOtorboat]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.


That's tough. I chose '97 in the poll because I think that was a legit "team for the ages" and they don't get the respect that they should.

Basically this. The 90s team was an all-time great team that doesn’t seem to measure up in national eyes to other dominant teams, and winning that game might have propelled them to three. That 2013 team was really good, but not as good as those teams. I feel it’s more likely the 97 teams wins the super bowl than it is the 2013 team.

[Magnificent Seven]

1997. Broncos should have won that game.

Broncos were flagged for having 12 men on the field. DL Micheal Dean Perry was slow to get off the field and was two feet from the sidelines when the ball was snapped. The Jaguars retained possession, later kicking a field goal. I remember all Broncos fans (and that includes me) were extremely upset with this big penalty.
Everyone called that penalty is one in a million.

[Dreadnought]

2013. We beat the '97 Packers but I'm not so sure '96 Denver beats '96 GB. I hate writing that, but '96 GB was a real powerhouse and our guys were not quite there yet. I think we might have beaten them 3 times in 10

Some of the '98 Broncos games are now up on Youtube in their entirety. I just watched the beating we put on Dallas (same week I met my wife!) and both the O-line and TD were so effin' good that year.

[aberdien]

2013 so I would be able to remember it.

[Magnificent Seven]

1997's Michael Dean Perry vs. 2013's Rahim Moore

Who was the big game ruiner?

[MasterShake]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.

My first instinct is the '97 game, but the 2013 path to the Super Bowl would've been much easier and we would have DESTROYED the Niners. The Jaguars game sucked, but all we knew was disappointment at that time and I truly believe that is what catapulted them to two straight. 2013 was more of a gut punch to me because I had realistic expectations with how great that team was. I think 2012-13 was the best Broncos team since the '98 one. That stupid Ravens game affected me mentally for weeks. The worst part was that as cold as that game was, the next (what would've been Championship Sunday) weekend was GORGEOUS in Denver. There it was, a beautiful weekend and I was all depressed because we SHOULD'VE been routing the Patriots on national TV on our way to our first of multiple Super Bowls with Peyton.

[Shazam!]

Jags loss hurt way more, even losing SBs didnt feel that bad.

[MOtorboat]

1997's Michael Dean Perry vs. 2013's Rahim Moore

Who was the big game ruiner?

This might be unpopular, but it’s definitely Michael Dean Perry for me. Less points scored in that game. That 2013 game was a defensive cluster**** all around. Ravens too, especially for having such a highly touted defense.

[The Glue Factory]

1997's Michael Dean Perry vs. 2013's Rahim Moore

Who was the big game ruiner?

I'll say Moore. The 97 Broncos as a team laid an egg against the Jaguars. It seemed to start in the 1st quarter that ended with 2 Denver TDs but 12 points on the scoreboard? That wasn't Perry's fault and if the team had performed better throughout the rest of the game Perry's penalty wouldn't have made much of a difference.

[NightTrainLayne]

1997. Broncos should have won that game.

Broncos were flagged for having 12 men on the field. DL Micheal Dean Perry was slow to get off the field and was two feet from the sidelines when the ball was snapped. The Jaguars retained possession, later kicking a field goal. I remember all Broncos fans (and that includes me) were extremely upset with this big penalty.
Everyone called that penalty is one in a million.


I've posted here before:

"It might be the last thing I do, but if I ever see Michael Dean Perry in person I'm going to punch him in the face." He'll probably do me in at that point, but I'll have avenged that stupid play.

I have no idea how quick he is these days. . .maybe I can get away.

[MOtorboat]

I've posted here before:

"It might be the last thing I do, but if I ever see Michael Dean Perry in person I'm going to punch him in the face." He'll probably do me in at that point, but I'll have avenged that stupid play.

I have no idea how quick he is these days. . .maybe I can get away.

Apparently if you’re ever in Charlotte you might get your shot.

[NightTrainLayne]

Apparently if you’re ever in Charlotte you might get your shot.

Maybe I can meet Beef there. Have some back-up. :D

[turftoad]

1997
After watching the first 4 appearances and being disappointed, the first win in 97' was GLORIOUS!!

[Canmore]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.

What if Elway had come back FOUR one more.

[BroncoWave]

Can I pick none of the above and go with the 2005 AFCCG? We would have beaten the shit out of Seattle in that super bowl. Elway and Manning got their rings. Would have liked to see Plummer get one.

[spikerman]

2013. I’m not sure Denver beats the Packers that year and losing to the Jags was the catalyst for the next two years.

[BeefStew25]

1977. I hate the Cowboys.

And the redskins super bowl

And the giants super bowl

And lose by only 20 in the niners super bowl.

[Magnificent Seven]

What if Elway had come back FOUR one more.

You know what? Broncos would win 3rd Super Bowl over Rams in 2000 if Elway decided to return for another SB run. They had a good defense and offense.

[Canmore]

You know what? Broncos would win 3rd Super Bowl over Rams in 2000 if Elway decided to return for another SB run. They had a good defense and offense.

Would have loved to see Elway once more.

[OrangeHoof]

I voted for the Ravens because I knew how small the window for Manning was and I thought they'd blown their chance.

[Cugel]

2013. We beat the '97 Packers but I'm not so sure '96 Denver beats '96 GB. I hate writing that, but '96 GB was a real powerhouse and our guys were not quite there yet. I think we might have beaten them 3 times in 10

Some of the '98 Broncos games are now up on Youtube in their entirety. I just watched the beating we put on Dallas (same week I met my wife!) and both the O-line and TD were so effin' good that year.

This is correct. The 2012 Broncos were probably the best team under Manning, largely because they had a healthy Ryan Clady -- the last time Denver had an actually GOOD OL, plus a really good Julius Thomas at TE. The passing game got better and Peyton threw more TDs in 2013, but 2012 was their year and they blew it, due to idiot coaching decisions and Rahim Moore.

They would have destroyed the 49ers in the SB. Peyton would have had 2 more championships instead of one. But, that 1996 team would never have beaten Green Bay. The '97 Packers overlooked the Broncos and believed their press clipping about how great their "dynasty" was. Nobody in the media gave Denver a chance, and that had to influence how Green Bay approached that game.

In 2015 it was the same thing, with Cam Newton winning 15 games and doing his Superman impression all the time. They really were full of themselves.

[Northman]

Stealing this from Andrew Mason.

WOULD YOU RATHER

The Broncos beat the Jaguars Jan 1997?

OR

The Broncos beat the Ravens Jan 2013?


Hmmm, im assuming that the end result the following years would remain? In that case Denver would still have won back to back SB's even by losing to the Jags. Even if Denver had beaten the Jags i think the Packers would have still been a hard team to beat whereas i think if we had beaten the Ravens and gone to the SB we would have wiped the floor with SF. IMO

[Elevation inc]

Stealing this from Andrew Mason.

WOULD YOU RATHER

The Broncos beat the Jaguars Jan 1997?

OR

The Broncos beat the Ravens Jan 2013?

1997 initially, in hindsight knowing we go on to back to backs, the 2013 game.....also if we win in 2013 Flacco doesn't go on some miraculous run to generate a huge contract after a SB win and then we don't get him here in Denver......so yeah 2013 :lol: :lol: :elefant: :elefant:

[Tbolt]

The Jag's loss is probably the most painful I ever experienced as a fan. I was shocked. But, that season, I am not sure we beat GB in that SB. They were better that year than they were the next. in 2013 that was a title year no doubt that we were robbed of.

[BroncoJoe]

After further contemplation, I still can't decide. I still say BOTH!

In '97, the Broncos were still a relatively young team, but I don't buy that GB would have simply beat us. I do think a year to think about the JAX loss helped though.

I wonder if we won in 2013 if Manning would have retired after that. Another B2B SB win would have been sweet.

The other consideration is Mr. B would have enjoyed '97, while in '13 (and SB50) he was already "gone".

Great question, with no real correct answer.

[Poet]

My gut says 97.

My heart says 97.

[dogfish]

jags game. . .


gotta roll with the duke over manning. . .

[pnbronco]

Both?

Gun to my head, I'd say 1997 because there was a real chance we could have three-peated.

Thinking the same thing Joe. We really had a chance at that time. Plus I was at that game and I had a sick feeling in my stomach and at the end I knew why. I was working out of town for 2013 and didn't freeze to death to see that horrible end.

[BroncoWave]

I'm still voting 2005. We still would have had an uphill climb against GB in 97 and NE in 13. 05 would have just put us against that garbage Seattle team. We had the title on a silver platter that year once Indy lost.

[Dreadnought]

I'm still voting 2005. We still would have had an uphill climb against GB in 97 and NE in 13. 05 would have just put us against that garbage Seattle team. We had the title on a silver platter that year once Indy lost.

1996 Broncos and 2012 Broncos were both legit powerhouse teams. I think 96 GB was even better, but '96 Denver was damned good. Both '96 and 2012 teams were complete teams that had HOF caliber QB's, who could beat anybody on a given day; in 2005 we were saddled with a slightly sub-par QB who could have actually lost to a weak Seattle club IMO. The fact that '05 lost to Pittsburgh chaps my ass, especially as I hate Pittsburgh almost as much as I hate Oakland, but the '05 team wasn't really all that legit if we are being totally honest. Them losing was not an insult to the Cosmic order of all that is right and proper the way the losses by the '96 and '12 teams were.

[BroncoJoe]

Watching the Ravens game on NFLN. That team had Manning. And ...

[BroncoJoe]

Watching the Ravens game on NFLN. That team had Manning. And ...

PS:. Champ was the Ravens' bitch that night.

[BroncoWave]

Watching the Ravens game on NFLN.

Why though?

[BeefStew25]

Why though?

The hurt makes the eventual glory even better.

[BroncoJoe]

Why though?

Why not?

[BroncoWave]

Why not?

Because I don't hate myself?

[BeefStew25]

PS:. Champ was the Ravens' bitch that night.

It was so cold that night.

[BroncoJoe]

Because I don't hate myself?

I'm checking out our new QB!

[BroncoWave]

I'm checking out our new QB!

If only we could be lucky enough to get that guy!

[Elevation inc]

It was so cold that night.


Yes it was.

[EastCoastBronco]

1997 Jags.
Without question.
There is no doubt in my mind that we wold have won 3 in a row with that squad.

[chanesaw]

2005- we would have beaten the Seahawks, and we wouldn't have fired Shanny, so we never have to endure McDaniels.
2012- that was a good team, and an easier path to SB win than 96
1996- as already mentioned that loss may have been the fuel that made the next two SB wins happen. If we still win in 97 and 98, and this makes us 3 peaters, then this is my #1 choice.
1998 loss to the NYG- pretty sure we go 19-0 if not for that game. That late 90s team doesn't get mentioned with the all time greats, but if we had 3 peated or gone 19-0 then it would be.

[The Glue Factory]

1998 loss to the NYG- pretty sure we go 19-0 if not for that game. That late 90s team doesn't get mentioned with the all time greats, but if we had 3 peated or gone 19-0 then it would be.

The Giants didn't beat the Broncos that year; the Broncos had gotten complacent. That loss propelled the Broncos to repeat and they may have been disappointing in the playoffs or SB if not for that loss. Their fire returned after the second loss and the rest would become history.

[Northman]

2005- we would have beaten the Seahawks, and we wouldn't have fired Shanny, so we never have to endure McDaniels.
2012- that was a good team, and an easier path to SB win than 96
1996- as already mentioned that loss may have been the fuel that made the next two SB wins happen. If we still win in 97 and 98, and this makes us 3 peaters, then this is my #1 choice.
1998 loss to the NYG- pretty sure we go 19-0 if not for that game. That late 90s team doesn't get mentioned with the all time greats, but if we had 3 peated or gone 19-0 then it would be.

I would stack that late 90's team against just about anyone. It was truly one of the most balanced teams we have ever had and was incredibly difficult to beat.

[TXBRONC]

The Giants didn't beat the Broncos that year; the Broncos had gotten complacent. That loss propelled the Broncos to repeat and they may have been disappointing in the playoffs or SB if not for that loss. Their fire returned after the second loss and the rest would become history.

We also lost to Miami a week later.

[The Glue Factory]

We also lost to Miami a week later.

As I noted in my final sentence. :welcome:

[Northman]

Then we beat Miami's ass in the playoffs and made them our bitch.

[Shazam!]

I think they were destined for greatness no matter what, but the Jax loss scarred me worse than any of the SB beatdowns in the 80s

[TXBRONC]

I think they were destined for greatness no matter what, but the Jax loss scarred me worse than any of the SB beatdowns in the 80s

The Jacksonville loss frustrated me but once Denver got to the playoffs following season I knew there wasn't going to be a repeat of what they did the year before.