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Jsteve01
03-17-2019, 01:58 PM
I am not a believer in arm strength or velocity is the best indicator of how good a quarterback will be at the next level. But what did interest me here is that the two guys at the top of this list are guys that have been said to have average to maybe slightly above-average arms. Which could potentially for me make me feel better about drafting a Rypien or a Grier

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/

Shazam!
03-17-2019, 03:06 PM
I am not a believer in arm strength or velocity is the best indicator of how good a quarterback will be at the next level. But what did interest me here is that the two guys at the top of this list are guys that have been said to have average to maybe slightly above-average arms. Which could potentially for me make me feel better about drafting a Rypien or a Grier

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/

Im a huge believer of Rypien I cannot say it enough he will be a great QB I so want Den to get him to sit behind January Joe for a year or two

Hawgdriver
03-17-2019, 03:39 PM
I'd take a flyer on Thorson.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-17-2019, 04:03 PM
Shurmur

Simple Jaded
03-18-2019, 12:25 AM
Maybe Grier if he’s a mid-round pick ... maybe.

What route were they testing this on?

Hawgdriver
03-18-2019, 12:28 AM
What route were they testing this on?

The best question that could ever be asked regarding this subject.

Simple Jaded
03-18-2019, 12:35 AM
Maybe that’s why Rypein throw every other throw in the dirt, trying to hard to show velocity he doesn’t have.

Simple Jaded
03-18-2019, 12:36 AM
The best question that could ever be asked regarding this subject.

I should be a trial lawyer, you hiring?

Hawgdriver
03-18-2019, 12:39 AM
I should be a trial lawyer, you hiring?

With questions like that, world domination awaits us.

Jsteve01
03-18-2019, 01:03 AM
I don't know how the drills work and ourlads is the only group that puts the radar on them. I know it aint just sit back and huck away because Lamar has a huge arm and he tested extremely poorly last year.

Elevation inc
03-18-2019, 08:46 AM
Seeing Paxton lynch at the top in 2016 made me vomit lol......

TXBRONC
03-18-2019, 10:07 AM
Seeing Paxton lynch at the top in 2016 made me vomit lol......

For someone who likes to ski or snowboard you sure have sensitive stomach. :D

Elevation inc
03-18-2019, 10:18 AM
For someone who likes to ski or snowboard you sure have sensitive stomach. :D


Nope its just Lynch...lol

underrated29
03-18-2019, 11:22 AM
This is not exactly correct. There is no drill that measures the velocity of the throws. They just gunned the throws the QBs were making on out routes. The guys with cannons would slow it up for more of a touch pass, where as the guys without cannons may throw it harder.

Point is, that a guy like Lock, Thoroson, Tyree, etc would throw a lot harder if there was a drill where they were asked to throw it as hard as they can.

Valar Morghulis
03-18-2019, 11:43 AM
Maybe Grier if he’s a mid-round pick ... maybe.

What route were they testing this on?

I think it was the three cone drill

Simple Jaded
03-20-2019, 10:52 PM
With questions like that, world domination awaits us.

I only use my superpowers for good.

Hawgdriver
03-20-2019, 11:33 PM
I only use my superpowers for good.

I think I can checkmate you from this position.

Simple Jaded
03-20-2019, 11:50 PM
I think I can checkmate you from this position.

Every man has his price, mine is tree fity.

Hawgdriver
03-21-2019, 12:12 AM
Every man has his price, mine is tree fity.

Damn forgot to hit my clock. I think I lost on time.

TXBRONC
03-21-2019, 07:44 AM
I only use my superpowers for good.

Flatulence is not a superpower, it's toxic waste bro. :D

ShaneFalco
03-22-2019, 12:31 AM
saw Lock throw today at pro day.

he ripping it.

Shazam!
03-22-2019, 06:43 AM
saw Lock throw today at pro day.

he ripping it.

Get on Board with acquiring him or Brett Rypien or ___________ new Denver QB and get over Chad Kelly already.

ShaneFalco
03-22-2019, 01:17 PM
Get on Board with acquiring him or Brett Rypien or ___________ new Denver QB and get over Chad Kelly already.

i am on board with Lock. I watched most Mizzou games.

He could be good if he becomes more consistent.

He can throw going across his body and rolling out left like 65 yards. Thats pure arm talent.

Like the white Mahomes.

underrated29
03-22-2019, 01:30 PM
i am on board with Lock. I watched most Mizzou games.

He could be good if he becomes more consistent.

He can throw going across his body and rolling out left like 65 yards. Thats pure arm talent.

Like the white Mahomes.



Ive heard Ta amu or whatever, the predecessor to kelly is the white mahomes. I have to admit I like his game a lot.

Simple Jaded
03-22-2019, 10:24 PM
Flatulence is not a superpower, it's toxic waste bro. :D

It is if you know what you’re doing.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-23-2019, 12:20 PM
saw Lock throw today at pro day.

he ripping it.

Of by ripping it, you mean sailing most of his intermediatediate passes...then hex yeah, he's ripping it

ShaneFalco
03-23-2019, 01:00 PM
Of by ripping it, you mean sailing most of his intermediatediate passes...then hex yeah, he's ripping it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjFSr5_uSrQ

2:22 in

TXBRONC
03-23-2019, 01:22 PM
It is if you know what you’re doing.

Well that eliminates you. :D

SmilinAssasSin27
03-23-2019, 05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjFSr5_uSrQ

2:22 in

Where is the "worst of" video. A certain Cal Bear could throw it 80 yards from his knees. Ravens still mad they bought in

SmilinAssasSin27
03-23-2019, 05:32 PM
As I crap on the kid...be clear, I'd be cool with him in Denver. But he clearly needs work and is not worth pick 10. Never was. QB chasers almost annually increase their value and reach for these guys. When I do mocks, I try to predict as much as I introduce players I like. I'm all for getting your guy, but I also believe in being smart about it. Ideally, we drop back a few spots, get a 2nd rounder we turn into a blocker and still get him. If he is gone, so be it. Fix the line and the middle of the D.

Elevation inc
03-25-2019, 03:04 AM
I like lock a lot, but if your asking from a straight value perspective if he is worth a top ten pick the answer is no, because I believe he needs to have 1 year of good pro coaching to become a franchise guy. In the top 10 if your going to draft a QB from value perspective he should be a day 1 starter. I don't see that in Lock, Haskins, Murray or Jones. The reason teams will take QB's high this draft is because they are desperate. You get desperate by doing what we have done since Peyton.

Jsteve01
03-25-2019, 10:31 PM
I like lock a lot, but if your asking from a straight value perspective if he is worth a top ten pick the answer is no, because I believe he needs to have 1 year of good pro coaching to become a franchise guy. In the top 10 if your going to draft a QB from value perspective he should be a day 1 starter. I don't see that in Lock, Haskins, Murray or Jones. The reason teams will take QB's high this draft is because they are desperate. You get desperate by doing what we have done since Peyton.

I think Murray in Kingsbury's system is worth a top-10 pick. And I think Haskins and lock could end up being better than a couple of the guys that were drafted in the first round last year. Obviously Lamar Jackson is a complete question mark at this point. So I don't think that Haskins or lock would be reaches in the top 10 necessarily. Because you look at body of work Haskins really only had the One season but he did it in the Big Ten and put up ridiculous numbers in a pro-style offense. And lock has played for four years in the SEC.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-26-2019, 06:16 AM
I think Murray in Kingsbury's system is worth a top-10 pick. And I think Haskins and lock could end up being better than a couple of the guys that were drafted in the first round last year. Obviously Lamar Jackson is a complete question mark at this point. So I don't think that Haskins or lock would be reaches in the top 10 necessarily. Because you look at body of work Haskins really only had the One season but he did it in the Big Ten and put up ridiculous numbers in a pro-style offense. And lock has played for four years in the SEC.

My viewpoint is actually the opposite on both when it comes to playing time. Haskins was able to do great thi gs in just 1 year. Meanwhile, it took Lock 4 to barely hit average in his completion%.

Elevation inc
03-27-2019, 02:41 AM
My viewpoint is actually the opposite on both when it comes to playing time. Haskins was able to do great thi gs in just 1 year. Meanwhile, it took Lock 4 to barely hit average in his completion%.

I alluded to the fact Mahomes had some accuracy issues early in college as well.....In fact I believe he went 56%, 63%, 65% and Lock went 49%, 54%, 56% and 62% As long as they improve or show improvement its a pretty good bet they can continue to get better. Accuracy is a thing for college QB's, and as a evaluator if you have a prospect who has accuracy issues but shows the ability to continually get better then its a good bet, that if you pair that with gritty work ethic, leadership, and NFL skillset and arm talent your going to probably get a franchise guy. No guarantees, but the odds are in your favor I would think.....

Simple Jaded
03-28-2019, 08:38 PM
My viewpoint is actually the opposite on both when it comes to playing time. Haskins was able to do great thi gs in just 1 year. Meanwhile, it took Lock 4 to barely hit average in his completion%.

Lock did great things in his first season as a starter too, makes me wanna see more of Haskins (even though I haven’t seen a single game of his, I’d rather watch paint dry).

SmilinAssasSin27
03-28-2019, 08:45 PM
Lock did great things in his first season as a starter too, makes me wanna see more of Haskins (even though I haven’t seen a single game of his, I’d rather watch paint dry).

Ya may wanna go look again. His Jr. Year was his best statistically. His Sr. Year was his best completion% He played 12 games as a frosh and was terrible. Sophomore year was average at best.

Elevation inc
03-29-2019, 02:17 AM
Ya may wanna go look again. His Jr. Year was his best statistically. His Sr. Year was his best completion% He played 12 games as a frosh and was terrible. Sophomore year was average at best.

Yep, his fresh year wasn't great, but he did improve his sophomore year in the toughest conference. That's another thing I like about him. He played tough defenses his entire career and made plays as he grew into his role....

Simple Jaded
04-02-2019, 12:13 AM
Ya may wanna go look again. His Jr. Year was his best statistically. His Sr. Year was his best completion% He played 12 games as a frosh and was terrible. Sophomore year was average at best.

I said he did great things, I don’t actually know his stats (or anyone else’s) , I’m just talking about showing flashes of ability and putting himself in eventual 1st round QB talk.

Which he most certainly did.

Elevation inc
04-09-2019, 03:25 AM
I said he did great things, I don’t actually know his stats (or anyone else’s) , I’m just talking about showing flashes of ability and putting himself in eventual 1st round QB talk.

Which he most certainly did.

Rumors now have him moving up to possible top 5 pick, as more then likely the team that wants him trades up to 3 with the Jets. That's crazy to me....but it sounds like a possibility....

ShaneFalco
04-26-2019, 09:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjFSr5_uSrQ

2:22 in

bump

Elevation inc
04-27-2019, 01:15 AM
To get him where we did should make everyone quite happy. I know I am feeling good about him.

Poet
04-27-2019, 11:16 AM
Hell yeah! Round one talent in round two! Get ****** NFL. You got Elway'd, bitches!!!!!!!!!

TXBRONC
04-29-2019, 06:36 AM
To get him where we did should make everyone quite happy. I know I am feeling good about him.

Why should we be happy? Flacco is going to be here for what the next ten years? ;) :D

Davii
04-29-2019, 10:51 AM
Why should we be happy? Flacco is going to be here for what the next ten years? ;) :D

He's in his prime Tx!

TXBRONC
04-29-2019, 11:23 AM
He's in his prime Tx!

Truth!

Elevation inc
04-30-2019, 07:30 AM
Why should we be happy? Flacco is going to be here for what the next ten years? ;) :D

Lets hope he does well enough to give some time for Lock to develop and leave it at that.....

TXBRONC
04-30-2019, 07:58 AM
Lets hope he does well enough to give some time for Lock to develop and leave it at that.....

Sure, that is what I'm hoping for as well.

NCBronco
04-30-2019, 01:50 PM
I'm real happy with the way Elway navigated the first three picks for the Broncos. Got some questions about the rest, but I'll reserve judgment in the belief that this coaching staff might actually be able to identify, develop, and maximize talent.......