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broncofaninfla
02-28-2019, 11:28 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/demaryius-thomas-is-in-custody-for-vehicular-assault/

NightTrainLayne
02-28-2019, 11:31 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/demaryius-thomas-is-in-custody-for-vehicular-assault/

Oh man. That's not good at all.

Northman
02-28-2019, 11:39 AM
hmm thats not good

underrated29
02-28-2019, 11:55 AM
Knowing how things go with DT the charges will be dropped.
His life has really taken a dive!
Youd think hed be the one that got injured.


AlllhallllRighty then.
(I hope everything is ok. Id still like to see him become a bronco again and retire as one of us!

tomjonesrocks
02-28-2019, 12:12 PM
Confusing story - a charge of vehicular assault doesn't require intent to injure? Seems like if this was a DUI case that would have been reported already.

BroncoJoe
02-28-2019, 12:14 PM
Confusing story - a charge of vehicular assault doesn't require intent to injure? Seems like if this was a DUI case that would have been reported already.

Right? I was confused by that as well. Maybe the charge only needs to include reckless driving/behavior. I have no idea.

Elevation inc
02-28-2019, 12:19 PM
Apparently you can be charged with vehicular assault if they think you were driving recklessly and caused serious injury to someone. So either some one in the car is pissed, and hurt bad and wants DT to pay or the cops are pissed he was speeding and hurt someone.....

Denver Native (Carol)
02-28-2019, 12:32 PM
Thomas, 31, turned himself into police on Wednesday and is being held for investigation of vehicular assault, driving without insurance and reckless driving, according to jail records.

According to an arrest affidavit, Thomas was driving with two passengers in his car on Auraria Parkway near 12th Street in the early morning hours of Feb. 16 when he lost control of the vehicle, causing it to roll.

Thomas was driving at about 70 miles per hour in a 30 mph zone when we drove off the left side of the road, over a raised median and into the northbound lanes of 12th before hitting another median, sending the car airborne, the affidavit states.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/former-broncos-receiver-demaryius-thomas-arrested-in-connection-to-rollover-crash

broncofaninfla
02-28-2019, 01:44 PM
He's being held without bail. This story likely isn't going to get any better for DT.

NightTrainLayne
02-28-2019, 01:52 PM
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/former-broncos-receiver-demaryius-thomas-arrested-in-connection-to-rollover-crash

Oh my word. How does someone with an NFL level net worth drive without insurance?

This is going to be financially devastating to DT. Unbelievable.

The financial implications are worse than the criminal ones.

Nomad
02-28-2019, 01:53 PM
Oh my word. How does someone with and NFL level net worth drive without insurance.

This is going to be financially devastating to DT. Unbelievable.

My first thoughts as well.

PatriotsGuy
02-28-2019, 02:24 PM
Oh my word. How does someone with an NFL level net worth drive without insurance?

This is going to be financially devastating to DT. Unbelievable.

The financial implications are worse than the criminal ones.

Are you legally required to carry auto insurance in CO?

MOtorboat
02-28-2019, 02:27 PM
Are you legally required to carry auto insurance in CO?

Is there a state where you’re not?

Nomad
02-28-2019, 02:29 PM
Insurance is required in all states. Each state differs in their minimum required coverage.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 02:29 PM
Are you legally required to carry auto insurance in CO?

Yes. Are you not in Mass?

wayninja
02-28-2019, 02:30 PM
He's being held without bail. This story likely isn't going to get any better for DT.

Dude is always being held!

Nomad
02-28-2019, 02:31 PM
Yes. Are you not in Mass?

PAGS lives in the “Live free or die” state. :D

wayninja
02-28-2019, 02:32 PM
PAGS lives in the “Live free or die” state. :D

Pretty sure he lives in the Republic of Pags. An island somewhere in the northeast that has seceded from the US. Likely not illegal there.

PatriotsGuy
02-28-2019, 02:34 PM
Yes. Are you not in Mass?

Work in MA live in NH, auto insurance is not mandatory in NH.

https://www.thebalance.com/states-with-no-car-insurance-requirements-4121731

Davii
02-28-2019, 02:39 PM
Work in MA live in NH, auto insurance is not mandatory in NH.

https://www.thebalance.com/states-with-no-car-insurance-requirements-4121731

That's crazy. I didn't think there was a state that didn't require it.

PatriotsGuy
02-28-2019, 02:50 PM
That's crazy. I didn't think there was a state that didn't require it.

I think I should not renew my policy to drive NTL insane :2thumbs:

EDIT: you also don't have to wear motorcycle helmets or use seat belts.

Davii
02-28-2019, 02:57 PM
I think I should not renew my policy to drive NTL insane :2thumbs:

EDIT: you also don't have to wear motorcycle helmets or use seat belts.

Motorcycle helmets I can see, but the caveat should be no aid for caring for you if you get yourself brain injuries.

I personally always wear a helmet, law or not, but then again I would've been killed back in '06 if I didn't have one on.

PatriotsGuy
02-28-2019, 03:04 PM
Motorcycle helmets I can see, but the caveat should be no aid for caring for you if you get yourself brain injuries.

I personally always wear a helmet, law or not, but then again I would've been killed back in '06 if I didn't have one on.

I always wear a seat belt too and if I rode I would wear a helmet. There are tons of people in NH that don't wear helmets though. Just look at any pictures from biker week in Laconia NH.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 03:04 PM
I think I should not renew my policy to drive NTL insane :2thumbs:

EDIT: you also don't have to wear motorcycle helmets or use seat belts.

The only truly free state.

I can almost picture uninsured dunebuggy's with loose narcotics and topless escorts in every unrestrained passenger seat as far as the eye can see.

Timmy!
02-28-2019, 03:06 PM
No intent to hurt, but still a felony in Colorado. Yeesh. Tough crowd.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 03:09 PM
No intent to hurt, but still a felony in Colorado. Yeesh. Tough crowd.

For me personally, the big thing there is alcohol. If you are doing 70 in a 30, drunk, there's a decent argument to be made that you intend to hurt people.

Timmy!
02-28-2019, 03:10 PM
For me personally, the big thing there is alcohol. If you are doing 70 in a 30, drunk, there's a decent argument to be made that you intend to hurt people.

Alcohol/drugs don't have to be involved.

PatriotsGuy
02-28-2019, 03:11 PM
The only truly free state.

I can almost picture uninsured dunebuggy's with loose narcotics and topless escorts in every unrestrained passenger seat as far as the eye can see.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Oh we also have open carry so add sidearms to your picture.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 03:12 PM
Alcohol/drugs don't have to be involved.

True, but we don't know if that's the case here or not.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 03:13 PM
You say that like it's a bad thing. Oh we also have open carry so add sidearms to your picture.

Your written wish is my imaginary command.

Timmy!
02-28-2019, 03:14 PM
True, but we don't know if that's the case here or not.

Right, but the timing and way things are worded would lead me to believe that's not the case. He'd have gotten a DUI charge right away.

wayninja
02-28-2019, 03:16 PM
Right, but the timing and way things are worded would lead me to believe that's not the case. He'd have gotten a DUI charge right away.

You are probably right, but we just don't know the details yet. What about timing makes you think it's not DUI? 12:20am sounds about right to me.

If it's not DUI, I'm still not sure how we know there was no intent.


Thomas was driving over 70 mph, more than twice the 30 mph speed limit, at around 12:20 a.m. near downtown Denver when his SUV went off the road and went airborne, flipping end-over-end, after hitting a median. The SUV landed on its wheels and one of his two passengers suffered serious injuries, the document said.

This feels hard to pull off on accident with no alcohol/drugs involved.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-28-2019, 03:17 PM
A little different wording here - driving without proof of insurance


Former Denver Broncos and Houston Texans receiver Demaryius Thomas was arrested and taken into custody Wednesday night on charges of vehicular assault, driving without proof of insurance and reckless driving, according to Denver police.

Thomas was involved in a single-vehicle rollover car crash in which a passenger suffered "serious bodily injuries" in Denver on Feb. 16.

full article - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001019287/article/demaryius-thomas-arrested-for-vehicular-assault

Timmy!
02-28-2019, 03:24 PM
You are probably right, but we just don't know the details yet. What about timing makes you think it's not DUI? 12:20am sounds about right to me.

If it's not DUI, I'm still not sure how we know there was no intent.



This feels hard to pull off on accident with no alcohol/drugs involved.


Hold my beer.....


https://youtu.be/lVa2waghbUE

MOtorboat
02-28-2019, 03:51 PM
I think I should not renew my policy to drive NTL insane :2thumbs:

EDIT: you also don't have to wear motorcycle helmets or use seat belts.

You’ll be fine unless you tell him you bought a pizza from Papa Murphy’s.

Poet
02-28-2019, 04:05 PM
I might have a job in Oklahoma this summer and may need NTL's help.

Davii
02-28-2019, 04:13 PM
Hold my beer.....


https://youtu.be/lVa2waghbUE

Huh, would you look at that, actual footage of Vance Joseph's career trajectory. Level, speed into a ditch in Miami, only to be catapulted to new heights before crashing in a disastrous heap.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-28-2019, 04:33 PM
DENVER — Former Broncos receiver Demaryius Thomas, who was taken into custody Wednesday related to a rollover crash earlier this month, will be released on a personal recognizance bond.

A judge made the ruling when Thomas made a court appearance on Thursday afternoon. Thomas was in a gray jumpsuit and was shackled for the hearing.

Thomas, who turned himself in, is facing charges of vehicular assault, reckless driving and not having proof of insurance.

rest - https://kdvr.com/2019/02/28/ex-broncos-receiver-demaryius-thomas-to-be-released-on-personal-recognizance-bond/

OrangeHoof
02-28-2019, 08:31 PM
Back before it was law, I told folks I was against the mandatory seat belt law. I said I should have a constitutional right to die with a steering wheel embedded in my chest if I so choose.

tomjonesrocks
02-28-2019, 08:39 PM
They were discussing this on The Fan - the car didn’t belong to DT - which perhaps explains the “No Insurance” part depending.

Although I don’t know what NFL player’s existing car insurance wouldn’t cover a vehicle he was driving regardless.

Davii
02-28-2019, 09:42 PM
They were discussing this on The Fan - the car didn’t belong to DT - which perhaps explains the “No Insurance” part depending.

Although I don’t know what NFL player’s existing car insurance wouldn’t cover a vehicle he was driving regardless.

My insurance covers me if I'm driving someone else's car, so long as that vehicle is legal

Davii
02-28-2019, 09:43 PM
Back before it was law, I told folks I was against the mandatory seat belt law. I said I should have a constitutional right to die with a steering wheel embedded in my chest if I so choose.

The forefathers didn't put that in there.

NightTrainLayne
02-28-2019, 11:42 PM
They were discussing this on The Fan - the car didn’t belong to DT - which perhaps explains the “No Insurance” part depending.

Although I don’t know what NFL player’s existing car insurance wouldn’t cover a vehicle he was driving regardless.

If that's the case that he was driving someone else's car, and assuming he had his own auto insurance, then his insurance would most likely cover it.

If that's the case, then "no insurance" charges should go away. The arresting officer's would have had no way at the time to verify that DT had insurance.

Northman
03-01-2019, 07:26 AM
If that's the case that he was driving someone else's car, and assuming he had his own auto insurance, then his insurance would most likely cover it.

If that's the case, then "no insurance" charges should go away. The arresting officer's would have had no way at the time to verify that DT had insurance.

I dunno, i carry an insurance card around in my wallet personally.

Davii
03-01-2019, 08:17 AM
I dunno, i carry an insurance card around in my wallet personally.

Mine is in my glove box but I do have them on my phone as well

BroncoJoe
03-01-2019, 10:24 AM
If that's the case that he was driving someone else's car, and assuming he had his own auto insurance, then his insurance would most likely cover it.

If that's the case, then "no insurance" charges should go away. The arresting officer's would have had no way at the time to verify that DT had insurance.

If the owner allowed him to drive the vehicle, wouldn't their insurance coverage be in effect as well? That's my understanding...

Denver Native (Carol)
03-01-2019, 10:40 AM
DENVER -- Demaryius Thomas, the former Broncos wide receiver, limped into court on Thursday facing charges of vehicular assault and reckless driving.

Police say the 31-year-old was going 70 mph in a 30 mpg zone on Auraria Parkway on Feb. 16 when he crashed. Thomas and his two passengers were all injured.

"The 70 mph in a 30 mph zone is what strikes me. If you're going 70 in a 30, the District Attorney is going to argue that's reckless driving in and of itself," said Gregory Daniels, a Denver defense attorney.

Daniels has no connection to Thomas' case, but he says the vehicular assault charge is a serious one because it's a felony. However, Daniels does believe it's a little unusual to see someone in a crash like this charged with a felony since police determined Thomas wasn't under the influence.

rest - https://kdvr.com/2019/02/28/why-is-demaryius-thomas-being-charged-with-a-felony/

Northman
03-01-2019, 10:42 AM
From the article.


Daniels says the speeds involved and the injuries suffered by the passengers may be the motivating force behind the felony charge. Police say one of the passengers suffered a serious bodily injury.

BeefStew25
03-01-2019, 11:00 AM
I was pulled over and the cops wouldn’t accept an electronic version of my insurance card. Law was just changed. As they bounced my face off the pavement, I knew I was right.

BeefStew25
03-01-2019, 11:01 AM
I’m glad he was drunk or high.

This is an overcharge.

wayninja
03-01-2019, 11:22 AM
I was pulled over and the cops wouldn’t accept an electronic version of my insurance card. Law was just changed. As they bounced my face off the pavement, I knew I was right.

Who did what now?

BeefStew25
03-01-2019, 11:40 AM
Who did what now?

I embellished. But the cops were asses. Asked if they could search my car. I said sure get a warrant.

Buff
03-01-2019, 11:56 AM
When the accident first happened and being familiar with that area, I was going to say "I don't see how you could possibly roll your car there" - but it felt like I was tempting fate and being that know-it-all... 70 in a 30 explains it. Even as a habitual speeder myself, that is some stupid shit for where he was.

BeefStew25
03-01-2019, 12:04 PM
When the accident first happened and being familiar with that area, I was going to say "I don't see how you could possibly roll your car there" - but it felt like I was tempting fate and being that know-it-all... 70 in a 30 explains it. Even as a habitual speeder myself, that is some stupid shit for where he was.

I hate that he has one blood shot eye.

wayninja
03-01-2019, 12:10 PM
I hate that he has one blood shot eye.

probably broken capillaries as a result of the crash?

BeefStew25
03-01-2019, 04:09 PM
probably broken capillaries as a result of the crash?

Too much time passed from the wreck to the arrest.

I hope he finds structure. I’d be a mess injured with a ton of money.

Wait. I’d blame the Achilles on the wreck.

wayninja
03-01-2019, 04:17 PM
Too much time passed from the wreck to the arrest.

I hope he finds structure. I’d be a mess injured with a ton of money.

Wait. I’d blame the Achilles on the wreck.

Was reading a bit more today, and reports are that he suffered a left eye injury in the crash.

also

https://images.tmz.com/2019/02/28/0228-demaryius-thomas-crash-scene-tmz-4.jpg

Northman
03-01-2019, 04:23 PM
His biggest issue will probably be having to pay the medical bills from the guy who is really ****** up.

Denver Native (Carol)
03-01-2019, 04:38 PM
Was reading a bit more today, and reports are that he suffered a left eye injury in the crash.

also

https://images.tmz.com/2019/02/28/0228-demaryius-thomas-crash-scene-tmz-4.jpg

You can see that injury in a picture on here
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/02/28/demaryius-thomas-arrest-charges-vehicular-assault-speeding-former-denver-broncos/

Ground Control
03-01-2019, 10:33 PM
I know it's not the case, but shouldn't the people involved have to press charges before a felony is given? Who knows if they were egging him on. Not that he's in the right on this at any level..but a felony for an accident?

Maybe I'm just a DT homer. He's the best of people and it would suck if he became a felon because of one stupid move. Regardless, if those that suffered injury didn't press charges, I don't think he should get a felony. It's not like the guy is ever going to do this again...

Hawgdriver
03-01-2019, 10:37 PM
I know it's not the case, but shouldn't the people involved have to press charges before a felony is given? Who knows if they were egging him on. Not that he's in the right on this at any level..but a felony for an accident?

Maybe I'm just a DT homer. He's the best of people and it would suck if he became a felon because of one stupid move. Regardless, if those that suffered injury didn't press charges, I don't think he should get a felony. It's not like the guy is ever going to do this again...

I might have read something about it being a strict liability crime, like statutory rape. You just do X, Y, and Z, and bam.

Poet
03-01-2019, 10:40 PM
When the mens rea don’t matter the legislative branch/MPC/common law flexed on you.

Timmy!
03-01-2019, 11:28 PM
I might have read something about it being a strict liability crime, like statutory rape. You just do X, Y, and Z, and bam.

From what I've read, you nailed it. A "liability crime" under Colorado law.

Valar Morghulis
03-02-2019, 03:09 AM
I know it's not the case, but shouldn't the people involved have to press charges before a felony is given? Who knows if they were egging him on. Not that he's in the right on this at any level..but a felony for an accident?

Maybe I'm just a DT homer. He's the best of people and it would suck if he became a felon because of one stupid move. Regardless, if those that suffered injury didn't press charges, I don't think he should get a felony. It's not like the guy is ever going to do this again...

I would suggest many felons become so because of one stupid move

Northman
03-02-2019, 09:37 AM
I would suggest many felons become so because of one stupid move

Pretty much, all it takes is one wrong decision and you could land in prison. It doesnt help his case that he has had issues with reckless driving before but something tells me he wont serve any time in jail and probably will get a shit ton of community service and probation.

NightTrainLayne
03-02-2019, 11:06 AM
If the owner allowed him to drive the vehicle, wouldn't their insurance coverage be in effect as well? That's my understanding...

Yes. However, if the vehicle had insurance, the police likely would have been able to verify that at the time.

Lots of unknowns, so just speculation, but it would appear the vehicle wasn't insured by its owner, whoever that is.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-02-2019, 11:42 AM
I know it's not the case, but shouldn't the people involved have to press charges before a felony is given? Who knows if they were egging him on. Not that he's in the right on this at any level..but a felony for an accident?

Maybe I'm just a DT homer. He's the best of people and it would suck if he became a felon because of one stupid move. Regardless, if those that suffered injury didn't press charges, I don't think he should get a felony. It's not like the guy is ever going to do this again...

Why do you assume he won't do it again? Best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. I'm not saying he is a terrible human being but for people to simply change their day to day behaviors based on 1 incident, it's very difficult. If what was referenced by another poster is true, than this is his norm. He drives unnecessarily and dangerously fast. It's unlikely that he'll just stop doing that. I hope he does for his and the safety of those around him. But the laws and reprocussions are there for a reason. I speed a bit. But I don't go 70 in a 30. There is a reason it's a 30 zone. He is 100% wrong. His actions hurt others physically, probably affected others nights as police had to close roads to investigate the crash and took police and EMTs away from other possible situations. It may sound corny, but people never think about the ancillary affects these types of things have on others. Hence....rules/laws and reprocussions.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-02-2019, 11:47 AM
I would suggest many felons become so because of one stupid move

I work with a bunch of em on a daily basis.

Denver Native (Carol)
03-27-2019, 03:54 PM
Former Denver Broncos and Houston Texans wide receiver Demaryius Thomas pleaded guilty Wednesday to careless driving resulting in injury.

Thomas was involved in a crash on Feb. 16, a few days after he was released by the Texans.

In a statement explaining the reasons for his arrest, police said Thomas was driving over 70 mph, more than twice the speed limit, around 12:20 a.m. near downtown Denver when his SUV went off the road and flipped end over end after hitting a median. The SUV landed on its wheels and one of his two passengers suffered serious injuries, the document said.

rest - http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26372864/ex-broncos-wr-thomas-pleads-guilty-charge

Ground Control
03-28-2019, 02:27 AM
Right? I was confused by that as well. Maybe the charge only needs to include reckless driving/behavior. I have no idea.

The terminology doesn't make sense to me either. To 'assault' someone means intent, to me. Here's the legal though:

You commit vehicular assault in violation of Colorado Revised Statutes 18-3-205, C.R.S. when:

You drive in a reckless manner OR you drive under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, and
Your driving is the proximate cause of a serious bodily injury to another person.
“Serious bodily injury” means an injury which, either at the time of the actual injury or at a later time, involves:

a substantial risk of death,
a substantial risk of serious permanent disfigurement,
a substantial risk of protracted loss or impairment of the function of any part or organ of the body, or
breaks, fractures, or burns of the second or third degree.

Davii
03-28-2019, 07:41 AM
The terminology doesn't make sense to me either. To 'assault' someone means intent, to me. Here's the legal though:

You commit vehicular assault in violation of Colorado Revised Statutes 18-3-205, C.R.S. when:

You drive in a reckless manner OR you drive under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, and
Your driving is the proximate cause of a serious bodily injury to another person.
“Serious bodily injury” means an injury which, either at the time of the actual injury or at a later time, involves:

a substantial risk of death,
a substantial risk of serious permanent disfigurement,
a substantial risk of protracted loss or impairment of the function of any part or organ of the body, or
breaks, fractures, or burns of the second or third degree.

I agree that "assault" would include intent. Here's the thing in my mind, he showed intent to drive recklessly. If you are driving double the posted speed limit you know you're risking your safety and the safety of everyone on the road. The intent isn't that you intended to hurt someone but that you were knowingly creating the factors that allowed it to happen.

Same thing for driving drunk. You didn't mean to kill someone, but you did mean to drive drunk.

Northman
03-28-2019, 07:43 AM
I agree that "assault" would include intent. Here's the thing in my mind, he showed intent to drive recklessly. If you are driving double the posted speed limit you know you're risking your safety and the safety of everyone on the road. The intent isn't that you intended to hurt someone but that you were knowingly creating the factors that allowed it to happen.

Exactly.

I i choose to drive above the speed limit i dont intend on getting a speeding ticket. But the intent is to go more than the posted speed limit which is risky in getting caught. Of course DT didnt intend to hurt anyone but he knew the risk could happen when he chose to drive that fast.

BeefStew25
03-28-2019, 10:07 AM
I like that he plead guilty and didn’t make excuses.

Jsteve01
03-28-2019, 07:07 PM
The whole situation makes me sad. He's one of those legitimate all-time great Broncos. The most physically gifted receiver we've ever had, and if you had as many years as Rod he would have broken all of rods records. I'm not saying he was as clutch. But I do remember him going out and catching 17 balls in that Super Bowl and everybody else had packed it in after the first quarter.

Simple Jaded
03-28-2019, 08:02 PM
The passenger will sue DT next.

Northman
03-28-2019, 08:10 PM
The passenger will sue DT next.

Probably wouldnt have much choice, the medical bills are probably going to be astronomical.

Simple Jaded
03-28-2019, 08:12 PM
Probably wouldnt have much choice, the medical bills are probably going to be astronomical.

That should be taken care of regardless, assuming he had insurance. So maybe she has a civil case.

Denver Native (Carol)
03-28-2019, 08:31 PM
The passenger will sue DT next.

Do you have some inside information?

BeefStew25
03-28-2019, 09:06 PM
Do you have some inside information?

I bet you $10 the lawsuit is already filed.

Valar Morghulis
03-29-2019, 12:07 AM
Does this make DT as heinous as Bob Kraft?

Both made bad choices, both got caught, DT endangered lives.

Elevation inc
03-29-2019, 02:14 AM
This hurts me, I have no doubt his life got turned upside down when he got traded, and he hasn't been the same since.....the injury probably sent him into some kind of rut or depression as well. Imagine getting sent away from the team and city you loved, forced into a new environment that's not familiar then getting a devastating injury that takes you away from the only normal aspect of your life. Many people I know would have some issues stem from that. I with Beef, I'm glad he took responsibility. Lets hope he can focus on making amends and community service, because he is a all time great who should be able to retire a bronco when all is said and done.

Cugel
03-29-2019, 05:09 AM
Does this make DT as heinous as Bob Kraft?

Both made bad choices, both got caught, DT endangered lives.

Bob Kraft is a billionaire who gives his money to sex-trafficking, which means making sex slaves of mostly foreign women lured to America with promises of decent jobs and then forced into prostitution and then prevented from fleeing.


"Not many people are aware, and if they are aware they're not talking about it because it's so evil, that men are paying to rape women and to rape children, boys and girls, all across our country," Malone said. "We believe there are 100,000 American boys and girls being sold for sex daily all across our country," adding that "no one thinks it's happening but it's happening in our own backyard."

Jsteve01
03-29-2019, 06:21 AM
Mine is in my glove box but I do have them on my phone as well

You just blew my mind lol. Smart phones have changed the game

Valar Morghulis
03-29-2019, 07:04 AM
Bob Kraft is a billionaire who gives his money to sex-trafficking, which means making sex slaves of mostly foreign women lured to America with promises of decent jobs and then forced into prostitution and then prevented from fleeing.

If there was any sex trafficking involved I would completely agree.

BroncoJoe
04-03-2019, 02:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/status/1113184358679150593

BroncoNut
04-04-2019, 11:57 AM
holy cow. how old was the vehicle?