Practice / press conference notes week 14 - San Francisco week

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
16h16 hours ago

A Star is rising: No. 30 Phillip Lindsay jerseys are flying off the racks. There were 40 sold at Broncos Team stores today - remarkable for a Monday. Lindsay No 30 made up 60% of jersey sales over the weekend. 500 more No 30s have been ordered. #9sports

[Denver Native (Carol)]

LONE TREE, Colo. (CBS4) – Some of the top Denver Broncos players put down their helmets and picked up a shopping cart Monday evening to help a special group of kids go Christmas shopping.

“Just to do something like this is a blessing,” Broncos safety Will Parks said.

rest - plus video - https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/12/03/broncos-boys-girls-club-christmas-shopping/

[Shazam!]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
16h16 hours ago

A Star is rising: No. 30 Phillip Lindsay jerseys are flying off the racks. There were 40 sold at Broncos Team stores today - remarkable for a Monday. Lindsay No 30 made up 60% of jersey sales over the weekend. 500 more No 30s have been ordered. #9sports

I am considering taking the plunge.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

So, since he’s a FA I’m guessing he’s not going to be cheap next year..?

[Magnificent Seven]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis

CB Jamar Taylor is signing one year deal with Broncos per source. #9sports
11:12 AM - 4 Dec 2018

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis

[Davii]

So, since he’s a FA I’m guessing he’s not going to be cheap next year..?

He's not a FA. He got a 3yr deal. ~ 450k this year with 100k rase 2019 and 2020.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
40m40 minutes ago

Mike Klis Retweeted Ryan O'Halloran

Confirming @ryanohalloran report Broncos have cut Cyrus Kouandjio to make room for Jamar Taylor.

[VonDoom]

Edit: Carol beat me to it

[TXBRONC]

Edit: Carol beat me to it

She is the Von Miller of BF when it comes to getting information to the board. Lighting fast.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

NFL345
‏Verified account @NFL345
2h2 hours ago

JIM KELLY, EMMITT SMITH, BRIAN URLACHER & DEMARCUS WARE NAMED 2019 PRO BOWL LEGENDS CAPTAINS: https://tinyurl.com/y8zc6vnp

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
40m40 minutes ago

Mike Klis Retweeted Ryan O'Halloran

Confirming @ryanohalloran report Broncos have cut Cyrus Kouandjio to make room for Jamar Taylor.

Didn’t Cyrus play last weekend ?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck
‏Verified account @TroyRenck
6m6 minutes ago

#Broncos @SuttonCourtland leads all AFC rookies with 558 yards receiving. And his 19.9 yards per catch is tops in #NFL with minimum 25 catches. #Denver7

[BroncoWave]

Sutton has top 5 WR potential. He's already as dangerous a deep threat as anyone I'm the NFL. If he gets the short/intermediate routes down the sky is the limit.

[Davii]

Sutton has top 5 WR potential. He's already as dangerous a deep threat as anyone I'm the NFL. If he gets the short/intermediate routes down the sky is the limit.

Route tree, route running. All offseason long.

[Cugel]

He's not a FA. He got a 3yr deal. ~ 450k this year with 100k rase 2019 and 2020.

They are going to have to re-negotiate his contract. He's just ridiculously underpaid. If he signs a new 4 year deal at season's end the team could at least reward him reasonably. Otherwise I would hold out and demand a trade, if I were him.

2018 Contract details by year Age:24 Base Salary: $480,000 Bonus: $5,000 Total: $485,000 Guaranteed: $15,000 $495,000($495,000)
2019 Contract details by year 25 $570,000 $5,000 $575,000 $10,000 $570,000($1,065,000)
2020 Contract details by year 26 $660,000 $5,000 $665,000 $5,000 $660,000($1,725,000)

They really should reward him with a new contract if they are going to start him.

[Simple Jaded]

He's not a FA. He got a 3yr deal. ~ 450k this year with 100k rase 2019 and 2020.

I believe he’ll be a RFA once his contract is up, if he got just the 3 year deal he won’t accru enough seasons to be unrestricted.

So he’ll be under team control for another 3 years.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Oakland Raiders are signing veteran running back C.J. Anderson, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Anderson has been looking for work since Nov. 12, when he was released by the Carolina Panthers.

Carolina had signed Anderson to a one-year, $1.75 million deal during the offseason, but with Christian McCaffrey seeing most of the volume in the team's backfield, Anderson managed only 104 yards on 24 carries in nine games.

rest - http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25454527/the-oakland-raiders-signing-veteran-running-back-cj-anderson

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

rest - http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25454527/the-oakland-raiders-signing-veteran-running-back-cj-anderson

I thought he signed with KC?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I thought he signed with KC?

He tried out with them, but they did not sign him. This should make him happy, as his family is big raider fans, and they live out there.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

Emmanuel Sanders helped off with his left foot lifted off ground as he hobbled into locker room. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3m3 minutes ago

Emmanuel Sanders just slipped in practice, Trainers helping him off. #9sports


Troy Renck
‏Verified account @TroyRenck
3m3 minutes ago

#Broncos @ESanders_10 returned to lockeroom. He was upset when happened, tossing his helmet to the side. Appeared to point to his lower left leg #Denver7

[MOtorboat]

Football gods not wanting Denver to make a run.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos believe that WR Emmanuel Sanders tore his Achilles during practice today, per source. Team usually can tell right away, but it will conduct tests on Sanders to confirm. But early belief is torn Achilles.

[MOtorboat]

Yikes. That could sit him out much of next year, too, right?

[Freyaka]

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[VonDoom]

Nooooooo!

[DenBronx]

Dammit!!!!!!


Well there goes the season.


F***!!!!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
5m5 minutes ago

In the span of four days, the Broncos might have two of their biggest playmakers on defense AND offense — Chris Harris Jr. and Emmanuel Sanders — just as they enter a critical stretch to try to make the playoffs.

Sanders has not had an MRI yet.

Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
8m8 minutes ago

Sanders seemed to know it was bad immediately. Threw his helmet off as coaches walked over to him on the ground.

If tests confirm the torn Achilles, that's a tremendous blow to the offense and to Sanders. He has one year left on his deal, salary not guaranteed.

Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
12m12 minutes ago

Broncos fear that WR Emmanuel Sanders tore his left Achilles. Will undergo further testing to confirm. (1st by @AdamSchefter)

Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
19m19 minutes ago

The fact that the majority of responses to the Emmanuel Sanders news is about changing fantasy lineups is beyond disturbing.

[DenBronx]

Mother ****!!!!!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Fuuuu-dddge.

[Northman]

Next man up, come on down Mr. Patrick.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Since he has not yet had an MRI, best would be that he did not tear his left Achilles. But if he did, are there different levels of how bad it could be?

[BroncoJoe]

Next man up. Sucks, but it is what it is.

[DenBronx]

Since he has not yet had an MRI, best would be that he did not tear his left Achilles. But if he did, are there different levels of how bad it could be?

Makes the DT trade look dumb now. I get why we did it but the football gods must really hate us.

[DenBronx]

Is Brandon Stokley available?



Fffffuuu

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Since he has not yet had an MRI, best would be that he did not tear his left Achilles. But if he did, are there different levels of how bad it could be?

At his age this will be tough. He’ll probably start next year on the pup list

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Goodbye fat contract

[MOtorboat]

At his age this will be tough. He’ll probably start next year on the pup list

He had surgery on both feet while in Pittsburgh. That probably won’t help.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He had surgery on both feet while in Pittsburgh. That probably won’t help.
Especially trying to come back at 33. He’ll be a FA.

[Freyaka]

Makes the DT trade look dumb now. I get why we did it but the football gods must really hate us.

Not really. DT was doing nothing and has done nothing since leaving us. He wasn't a good fit here anymore and frankly may not have any gas in the tank at all.

[Magnificent Seven]

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos believe that WR Emmanuel Sanders tore his Achilles during practice today, per source. Team usually can tell right away, but it will conduct tests on Sanders to confirm. But early belief is torn Achilles.

Are you kidding me?! :shocked:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Not really. DT was doing nothing and has done nothing since leaving us. He wasn't a good fit here anymore and frankly may not have any gas in the tank at all.

Do you have stats to confirm that DT has done nothing with Houston?

[Northman]

DT with Houston- 10 recs, 131 yds and 2 TD's in 4 games.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

DT with Houston- 10 recs, 131 yds and 2 TD's in 4 games.

Not bad

[Freyaka]

Do you have stats to confirm that DT has done nothing with Houston?

In the last 4 games he's had 131 yards on 10 catches an average of 32 yards per game.

He's not taking the world by storm. On the year he has 533 yards on 46 catches. He's not an impact player at this point in his career. Loved him when he was here, but he's done.

[Northman]

Not bad

I suppose it depends. Its not bad in terms of a guy on the downside of his career but considering what we were paying him im not sure that is that type of money if you know what i mean. The 2 TD's came in one game so outside of that he hasnt really been a huge factor for them. But for Houston im sure he is good enough to compliment Hopkins who is there #1 guy.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck
‏Verified account @TroyRenck
18m18 minutes ago

#Broncos Joseph said @ESanders_10 injury "it didn't look good." Said he had dealt with some heel soreness. #Denver7 He said DaeSean Hamilton is ready

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck
‏Verified account @TroyRenck
25m25 minutes ago

What has been suggested for weeks becomes obvious now. #Broncos need to lean on the run, and make sure @I_CU_boy gets 25 touches. 20 rushes, 5 targets in passing game. Also use Freeman for 8-10 carries this week if need to. #Denver7

[BroncoWave]

Not bad

Huh? That's completely mediocre by any objective measure. 32 yards a game is replacement level production. Any average WR can do that.

[Nomad]

I guess I’ll be redzoning to follow the game. I expect to see the Broncos quite often scoring and beating the 9ers. Also.....Go Chiefs.

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[VonDoom]

Played with Musgrave in Oakland

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1070425338067464196?s=21

[MOtorboat]

I guess I’ll be redzoning to follow the game. I expect to see the Broncos quite often scoring and beating the 9ers. Also.....Go Chiefs.

13397

Dammit. Why is CBS not getting any doubleheaders?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
4m4 minutes ago

Broncos have claimed WR Andre Holmes off waivers. He was waived a day ago by Buffalo Bills. #9sports

[Freyaka]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
4m4 minutes ago

Broncos have claimed WR Andre Holmes off waivers. He was waived a day ago by Buffalo Bills. #9sports

Buffalo waiving WR's left and right. Didn't they just waive Kelvin Benjamin too?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
21m21 minutes ago

The Broncos are putting Emmanuel Sanders on IR to make roster room for Andre Holmes, per source. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
40m40 minutes ago

Mike Klis Retweeted Mike Klis

Fans voters outside of Denver need to wake up: There are not 10 better backs than Phillip Lindsay. #9sports

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I guess I’ll be redzoning to follow the game. I expect to see the Broncos quite often scoring and beating the 9ers. Also.....Go Chiefs.

13397

Sweet, I get the game.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Buffalo waiving WR's left and right. Didn't they just waive Kelvin Benjamin too?

According to Booger McFarland, he’s one biscuit shy of being TE weight and can’t get separation.

[Poet]

According to Booger McFarland, he’s one biscuit shy of being TE weight and can’t get separation.

He showed a lot of promise.

Then he got super lazy.

And hurt.

And he's pretty stupid.

He's basically a 35 year old Owen Daniels, minus the intellect...but slower.

[TXBRONC]

Makes the DT trade look dumb now. I get why we did it but the football gods must really hate us.

But that's hindsight, there was no way to know that Sanders was going injury himself going out to the practice field.

[Poet]

But that's hindsight, there was no way to know that Sanders was going injury himself going out to the practice field.

People get hurt in football and we were thin when we traded DT because we only had a bunch of youngsters. We knew that when we made the trade. People at the time were fine with it because we thought we were out of it.

It's on the GM to look at all possibilities. I would rather have DT for the playoff push, especially now, than a fourth rounder.

[Hawgdriver]

Goodbye fat contract

He deserved it, earned it.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He deserved it, earned it.

I agree, he’s just not going to get it. I suppose there’s a chance he comes back really fast and runs a 4.4 next sprint. Somebody will give him a nice 2-3 year if that’s the case.

[Hawgdriver]

I agree, he’s just not going to get it. I suppose there’s a chance he comes back really fast and runs a 4.4 next sprint. Somebody will give him a nice 2-3 year if that’s the case.

Hope it happens and hope it's the Broncos that get him. He makes football football.

[Cugel]

According to Booger McFarland, he’s one biscuit shy of being TE weight and can’t get separation.

Maybe that's why media guys are naming him "the Buffet". That one biscuit - with gravy - is on its way to his mouth right now.

[Freyaka]

He deserved it, earned it.

I don't disagree, but honestly, he's due $12M next season and we save $10M by cutting him. How Hamilton, Patrick and Sutton perform over the next couple weeks could determine if he's even on the roster. Sucks to say that, but with an injury like that at his age, it is unfortunately likely that we've seen his final game in orange and blue last week.

[Freyaka]

People get hurt in football and we were thin when we traded DT because we only had a bunch of youngsters. We knew that when we made the trade. People at the time were fine with it because we thought we were out of it.

It's on the GM to look at all possibilities. I would rather have DT for the playoff push, especially now, than a fourth rounder.

I think it's best for all involved that DT is gone. I love the dude, but I think he was part of the problem with this offense. I know you want to believe he'd be a big impact to us now, but he's not the DT he once was. He doesn't have the speed and agility he once did and he was never a strong route runner. We have a WR exactly like him on the roster named sutton. Him and Sutton lining up across from each other isn't going to benefit us, we need that strong route runner like Sanders was. That's Hamilton, not DT. Just embrace the future friend. DT hasn't been the DT you remember for about 2-3 years now and he's never going to be that again.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

DT wasn’t a strong route runner? That’s a new one.

I admit he has lost a step, but he was an exceptional route runner. You can’t be Manning’s #1 target if you’re not where he expects you to be.

[Freyaka]

DT wasn’t a strong route runner? That’s a new one.

I admit he has lost a step, but he was an exceptional route runner. You can’t be Manning’s #1 target if you’re not where he expects you to be.

He wasn't a good route runner, he was by no means an awful route runner, but running routes wasn't his bread and butter. He got most of his production of slant routes, screens, ect... That's not a knock on DT, it's who he was. He didn't make his money based on route running ability and saying he wasn't a strong route runner isn't saying he's always out of place, ect... He made his money based on his ability to take a short route route and make big YAC or run a go route. He burned people with speed, not an ability to quickly cut on a route and gain separation from the defender. Guys like Sanders, Stokely, Welker, Fitzgerald, they run crisp clean routes and get their separation based on their route running (though Manny also has some speed too which is nice)

I think you misunderstand me if you think that's a knock on DT, he's a different style of receiver than Sanders, that doesn't make him a lesser receiver, it's just a different playstyle.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I don’t think you’re knocking on DT. I just think you’re wrong. You’re the only person I’ve ever heard say that.

The only criticism I have ever heard about his route running was his limited route tree coming out of GT, which was the reason for the slow start his rookie year.

[TXBRONC]

People get hurt in football and we were thin when we traded DT because we only had a bunch of youngsters. We knew that when we made the trade. People at the time were fine with it because we thought we were out of it.

It's on the GM to look at all possibilities. I would rather have DT for the playoff push, especially now, than a fourth rounder.

That's silly, having young receivers doesn't mean you're thin at receiver, inexperienced yes, but not thin. You were one of the people who was fine with it.

No kidding the GM has to look at all possibilities, and at that time Denver wasn't in a position to push for the playoffs.

It looks like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

[TXBRONC]

I think it's best for all involved that DT is gone. I love the dude, but I think he was part of the problem with this offense. I know you want to believe he'd be a big impact to us now, but he's not the DT he once was. He doesn't have the speed and agility he once did and he was never a strong route runner. We have a WR exactly like him on the roster named sutton. Him and Sutton lining up across from each other isn't going to benefit us, we need that strong route runner like Sanders was. That's Hamilton, not DT. Just embrace the future friend. DT hasn't been the DT you remember for about 2-3 years now and he's never going to be that again.

Thomas is a strong route runner. He would have never become Manning's favorite target if didn't know how to run routes.

[Freyaka]

Thomas is a strong route runner. He would have never become Manning's favorite target if didn't know how to run routes.

Both you fellas are missing what I'm saying. DT's game was always physical. It wasn't route technique that made him a great target, it was his physical prowess. His ability to quickly outrun defenders, to catch a short route and make defenders miss. It had nothing to do with his ability to run his routes in a way that gave him separation.

I'm not saying he didn't know how to run a route, i'm saying his route running techniques were never his strong suit, that's not his style. He's a deep threat/speed receiver. Sanders is more of a possession/slot style receiver. He doesn't have the big physical prowess that DT does (being 5'11) his strengths are running sharp, crisp routes and beating people by running the route better than the defender.

Saying DT isn't a strong route runner isn't saying he can't run a route well, it's saying that's not the style of WR he fits into. Yes, he can run routes well enough to be where he needs to be and to have proper timing, but he's not going to beat someone based on route running alone, he beats them due to size/speed.

Sanders is very much a finesse player who thrives on strong technique to get open, that's not DT and that's fine, you need both type of WR. But DT isn't the type of WR that can replace the production of Sanders, he can't do what Sanders does, Sutton and DT have the same build, Hamilton and Sanders likewise have a similar build and playstyle.

[Davii]

I don’t think you’re knocking on DT. I just think you’re wrong. You’re the only person I’ve ever heard say that.

The only criticism I have ever heard about his route running was his limited route tree coming out of GT, which was the reason for the slow start his rookie year.

Exactly. He WASN'T a strong route runner when he was drafted, he sure as hell is one now.

[Davii]

I'm leaving San Fran right now. Boo. I tried to get my new boss to buy off on extending my trip through Tuesday so I could go to the game... no dice...

[Poet]

I'm leaving San Fran right now. Boo. I tried to get my new boss to buy off on extending my trip through Tuesday so I could go to the game... no dice...

You like the city?

[VonDoom]

Troy Renck @TroyRenck
#Broncos Tramaine Brock DNP at practice. And Wolfe and Marshall were limited #Denver7

Mike Klis @MikeKlis
Andre Holmes and Jamar Taylor are playing Sunday. Taylor will be 4th corner, per Vance Joseph. #9sports

Nicki Jhabvala @NickiJhabvala
Vance Joseph said he’s assuming Tramaine Brock won’t be able to go Sunday. Hasn’t practiced the last two days because of a rib injury.

[Davii]

You like the city?

Yes and no. There are things I love in the Bay Area but I would never live there. The area is an absolute mess of homeless, drugs, crime, and gets worse daily. Couple that with the highest cost of living in the nation and it becomes a truly miserable thought.

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/1071114218085236737?s=21

[Nomad]

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[Simple Jaded]

DT wasn’t a strong route runner? That’s a new one.

I admit he has lost a step, but he was an exceptional route runner. You can’t be Manning’s #1 target if you’re not where he expects you to be.
PFM was the best WR’s Coach in the league.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

PFM was the best WR’s Coach in the league.

Great motivator too. If you’re not where he expects you to be you sit on the bench.

[Poet]

**** you, Tom Brady!