View Full Version : Keesum the worst piece of shit QB in the NFL
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:20 PM
discuss
Dapper Dan
10-01-2018, 10:24 PM
Worst is a stretch. But he’s bad. So is this coaching staff.
tripp
10-01-2018, 10:28 PM
I blame the coaching staff above everything else. Keenum was never going to be a world beater. He's a classic case of having one great year, and then cashing out. I think Bill Musgrave is just as bad too
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:28 PM
NFL Completely slanted towards passing game.
Tribusky throwing 6 tds and shit.
While Keesum overthrowing wide open receivers for game winning touchdowns.
Half his throws dont even make it to the receiver and the WR coming back to them..
leads the league in ints.
cant score vs the worst D in the NFL.
Cost 25m.
How is he not benched yet?
ForgettingBrandonMarshall
10-01-2018, 10:29 PM
Put in swag.
overthrowing wide open receivers for game winning touchdowns.
Half his throws dont even make it to the receiver and the WR coming back to them..
leads the league in ints.
cant score vs the worst D in the NFL.
Cost 25m.
How is he not benched yet?
It's puzzling
Shazam!
10-01-2018, 10:29 PM
That 3 and Out nailed the L here. Keenum cannot push downfield when needed most, like the overthrow to DT? When they need it the most, he cannot do it.
Im done with Keenum, and have just seen slightly better than mediocre play from him.
And apparently we will be cursed by Patrick Mahomes for like the next 15 years or so.
If they lose at NYJ next week, its another lost Season.
Lets not forget Denver beat them last year after 8 straight losses, im sure they didn't forget it and will be fired up in NY.
Shazam!
10-01-2018, 10:30 PM
overthrowing wide open receivers for game winning touchdowns.
Half his throws dont even make it to the receiver and the WR coming back to them..
leads the league in ints.
cant score vs the worst D in the NFL.
Cost 25m.
How is he not benched yet?
...because he cost 25 mill?
That 3 and Out nailed the L here. Keenum cannot push downfield when needed most, like the overthrow to DT? When they need it the most, he cannot do it.
Im done with Keenum, and have just seen slightly better than mediocre play from him.
And apparently we will be cursed by Patrick Mahomes for like the next 15 years or so.
If they lose at NYJ next week, its another lost Season.
Lets not forget Denver beat them last year after 8 straight losses, im sure they didn't forget it and will be fired up in NY.
The season was over when 7 didn't fire Radio in the offseason
tripp
10-01-2018, 10:32 PM
If we weren't paying Keenum 25m, I could foresee a QB change, but that's not going to happen this season unless he truly craps the bed.
Shazam!
10-01-2018, 10:32 PM
That 3 and Out nailed the L here. Keenum cannot push downfield when needed most, like the overthrow to DT? When they need it the most, he cannot do it.
Im done with Keenum, and have just seen slightly better than mediocre play from him.
And apparently we will be cursed by Patrick Mahomes for like the next 15 years or so.
If they lose at NYJ next week, its another lost Season.
Lets not forget Denver beat them last year after 8 straight losses, im sure they didn't forget it and will be fired up in NY.
The season was over when 7 didn't fire Radio in the offseason
At least he had them prepared and fired up for this game and they didnt come out flat and dead.
Sometimes I don't even get mad at Keenum and just get mad at Elway. How did you let that ******* idiot Kubiak talk you into a scrub like Keenum?
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:37 PM
This is a good team with rookie talent at offensive skill positions and Keesum blows.
Case is legitimately holding Denver back this year.
tripp
10-01-2018, 10:38 PM
This is a good team with rookie talent at offensive skill positions and Keesum blows.
Case is legitimately holding Denver back this year.
I'd rather keep Keenum and replace the coaching staff.
Dapper Dan
10-01-2018, 10:38 PM
Where y’all getting this $25 million number?
HORSEPOWER 56
10-01-2018, 10:44 PM
Where y’all getting this $25 million number?
That’s his guaranteed money number for the 2 years he’s under contract.
NightTerror218
10-01-2018, 10:46 PM
Not impressed with team in general starting with VJ
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:48 PM
https://twitter.com/TheDirtySports/status/1046962452355850240
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:48 PM
He is like a even worse version of Alex Smith
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:50 PM
Kelly played against #1 Bama in Tuscaloosa.
he is not afraid of #1 teams.
Start him vs the Rams and he will be the Qb of the future.
Start Keesum vs the Rams and he will prove why the Rams benched him for Goff.
atwater27
10-01-2018, 10:54 PM
I know it’s close game loss angry reactionary thread time, and I wish Chad Kelly was the starter, but this is classless and mean. The title signifies what is wrong with the internet.
I know it’s close game loss angry reactionary thread time, and I wish Chad Kelly was the starter, but this is classless and mean. The title signifies what is wrong with the internet.
I miss Trevor Siemian.
tripp
10-01-2018, 10:56 PM
I know it’s close game loss angry reactionary thread time, and I wish Chad Kelly was the starter, but this is classless and mean. The title signifies what is wrong with the internet.
He's definitely not the worst, but he's not good either. He's being paid to be decent, but decent isn't what he is lol
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 10:56 PM
Classless?
pretending Case Keesum is a starting QB is classless.
Dapper Dan
10-01-2018, 10:59 PM
That’s his guaranteed money number for the 2 years he’s under contract.
Ok. Thanks! I didn’t think we were paying him that this season.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:00 PM
I'd rather keep Keenum and replace the coaching staff.
i wouldnt. Woods held one of the hottest NFL offenses to 28 pts.
Woulda been 21 if Keesum could get a 1st down.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:01 PM
I miss Trevor Siemian.
You shut your whore mouth.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:02 PM
i wouldnt. Woods held one of the hottest NFL offenses to 28 pts.
Woulda been 21 if Keesum could get a 1st down.
27. There was also a pretty flagrant delay of game penalty that wasn't called that could have changed the course of the game. But luckily that's "not reviewable", because the technology to catch that stuff just hasn't been developed yet.
My apathy is turning to white hot rage.
You shut your whore mouth.
Did he ever go three games without a passing TD? Keenum told the announcers that he 'earned the right to be a starter' and all he did was ride the coattails of his team. At least TS had some humility.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:06 PM
Did he ever go three games without a passing TD? Keenum told the announcers that he 'earned the right to be a starter' and all he did was ride the coattails of his team. At least TS had some humility.
You don't save the burning house by throwing trevor siemians at it. Sorry, I don't have a good metaphor.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:07 PM
uh whats even worse is this is my 2nd season watching a team being led by keesum.
he sucked on the rams too.
i want to rip my ******* skull apart
You don't save the burning house by throwing trevor siemians at it. Sorry, I don't have a good metaphor.
Can we throw Case Keenum into a burning house?
Magnificent Seven
10-01-2018, 11:09 PM
Overthrowing hurt our chance to win. That's it.
tripp
10-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Can we throw Case Keenum into a burning house?
Just don't over throw him
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Can we throw Case Keenum into a burning house?
Like I said, the metaphor is not good. Case is basically the burning house. So, you want to throw a burning house at a burning house?
Pull yourself together, man.
Like I said, the metaphor is not good. Case is basically the burning house. So, you want to throw a burning house at a burning house?
Pull yourself together, man.
If we throw TS into CK then they might combine and have an actual NFL arm.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:12 PM
Mahomes has a stronger and more accurate left arm than Keesum does a right arm
Mahomes has a stronger and more accurate left arm than Keenum does a right arm
This is gold.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:15 PM
https://twitter.com/1043TheFan/status/1046970272102961152
....
yea chad kelly has never said anything like that in his entire life.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:16 PM
On the bright side, I can see him learning a lot this year.
sneakers
10-01-2018, 11:16 PM
how can you even determine who is the worst? Seems like a subjective judgement
how can you even determine who is the worst? Seems like a subjective judgement
Make more threads.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:18 PM
how can you even determine who is the worst? Seems like a subjective judgement
Hey sneak, remember when we trolled the jets forum? Man, those were good times.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:18 PM
Even my chihuahua puppy swag hates Keesum
they showed him on tv and my dog started barking at the tv.
sneakers
10-01-2018, 11:19 PM
Hey sneak, remember when we trolled the jets forum? Man, those were good times.
:lol::lol:
I still remember my ID....it was I<3#15s 8===D
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1046976282343481344
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:20 PM
:lol::lol:
I still remember my ID....it was I<3#15s 8===D
I remember, made me laugh so hard.
tripp
10-01-2018, 11:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1046976282343481344
The GOAT
Bronco4ever
10-01-2018, 11:20 PM
Hopefully the learning we do from this game is start Swag. Keenum is clearly not the future. Why do we need to waste our time?
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Even my chihuahua puppy swag hates Keesum
they showed him on tv and my dog started barking at the tv.
https://media.giphy.com/media/uLwolChOTYn4s/giphy.gif
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:23 PM
MJD up there on NFL network ripping Case Keesum
tripp
10-01-2018, 11:24 PM
Hopefully the learning we do from this game is start Swag. Keenum is clearly not the future. Why do we need to waste our time?
Won't see Chad until week 16 or 17 once we're competing for the 5th or 6th overall pick
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:25 PM
Well, maybe next year, we can throw another mil or two at the problem. That should do it. Would be suckers to overpay for the most important position in the history of all sports.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:26 PM
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1046966036648603648
lol albright
sneakers
10-01-2018, 11:27 PM
Offensive line who looked so good the first 2 weeks didn't do the QB any favors today
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:27 PM
What is a Chad Kelly stan?
What is a Chad Kelly stan?
A stan is a blind fan boy or overzealous supporter.
If the Broncos aren't considering a switch they should all be fired.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:30 PM
A stan is a blind fan boy or overzealous supporter.
If the Broncos aren't considering a switch they should all be fired.
Thanks, I had never heard that before.
They should have all been fired last year, so this is all just house money for them. Why they are playing safe with house money is beyond me, but whatever.
MOtorboat
10-01-2018, 11:30 PM
https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1046966036648603648
lol albright
Ain’t gonna happen. Move on.
Hawgdriver
10-01-2018, 11:30 PM
I know it’s close game loss angry reactionary thread time, and I wish Chad Kelly was the starter, but this is classless and mean. The title signifies what is wrong with the internet.
Lame thread is lame.
#swag
MOtorboat
10-01-2018, 11:32 PM
A stan is a blind fan boy or overzealous supporter.
If the Broncos aren't considering a switch they should all be fired.
Because a seventh-round kid with personality issues in his background is definitely a sure thing. ****, this is gonna get old.
They aren’t benching Keenum. It’s not happening.
Also spelled Keenum. Whatever clever joke Shane thinks he’s making by spelling it Keesum, isn’t that clever.
Bronco4ever
10-01-2018, 11:33 PM
Won't see Chad until week 16 or 17 once we're competing for the 5th or 6th overall pick
With our stubborn FO and clueless coaching staff, I wouldn't put it past them. But if Keenum keeps this up in the next week or two, it'd be hard to ignore it. Dude hasn't thrown a TD in the last 3 games. Hopefully they come to realize Keenum is not irreplaceable.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:34 PM
Because a seventh-round kid with personality issues in his background is definitely a sure thing. ****, this is gonna get old.
They aren’t benching Keenum. It’s not happening.
Also spelled Keenum. Whatever clever joke Shane thinks he’s making by spelling it Keesum, isn’t that clever.Nothing clever about it. He is Keesum. A Scrub. A limp dick QB with no arm strength.
John Elway botches Case Keenum's name during introductory press conference
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/03/denver-broncos-john-elway-case-keenum-press-conference-name-wrong-video
My grandma coulda hit DT forget Chad kelly.
wayninja
10-01-2018, 11:34 PM
Well, it's fair to criticize the fact that the "guy they wanted" happens to be the absolute worst in the league at the moment.
Because a seventh-round kid with personality issues in his background is definitely a sure thing. ****, this is gonna get old.
They aren’t benching Keenum. It’s not happening.
Also spelled Keenum. Whatever clever joke Shane thinks he’s making by spelling it Keesum, isn’t that clever.
Yeah, well he's definitely going to need to be punished for his indiscretions forever, right? By that logic Cleveland shouldn't be starting Mayfield, who is at least getting some production, right? Who said anything about a sure thing? A sure thing is that Keenum can't do anything on the field and that he's not the future. Say what you want about Kelly, but at least he has some talent to him. It's a longshot, so what?
I know they aren't benching, Keenum. That's actually the point.
Keesum is just an amalgam of Case and Keenum.
I sit corrected - even Elway didn't know the name of the bum he signed.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:40 PM
I sit corrected - even Elway didn't know the name of the bum he signed.
Exactly.
If Elways cant even pronounce this bums name correctly why should i?
atwater27
10-01-2018, 11:45 PM
Nothing clever about it. He is Keesum. A Scrub. A limp dick QB with no arm strength.
Say it to his face
Hawgdriver
10-01-2018, 11:47 PM
Exactly.
If Elways cant even pronounce this bums name correctly why should i?
I don't understand why they gave Keenum 18 mil. I guess Elway knows QB matters but doesn't know how to solve it.
Well, on to the Jets.
I'm ok with a QB switch if radio is.
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:48 PM
Say it to his face
the entire league already has
Say it to his face
Why would anyone be scared of Keenum? He's the same guy who got upset when Mike Zimmer wasn't sure on him. He's the same ******* guy who told the announcers that he earned the right to be the Broncos QB. One good season. He's so entitled. Do whiny and entitled people intimidate anyone. What's he going to do, clock me with this 'strong arm'? He's one inch taller than me. Tom Brady would probably beat that ass.
Hawgdriver
10-01-2018, 11:50 PM
I'm also ok with a QB switch even if radio isn't.
HORSEPOWER 56
10-01-2018, 11:50 PM
Keenum on track for a 12 TD, 24 int season. Championship!
ShaneFalco
10-01-2018, 11:51 PM
Keenum has a 72.0 passer rating now which keeps him 31st in the league
Lynch would probably have a similar, if not slightly better stat line for much less money.
Chidoze
10-02-2018, 12:10 AM
Because a seventh-round kid with personality issues in his background is definitely a sure thing. ****, this is gonna get old.
They aren’t benching Keenum. It’s not happening.
Also spelled Keenum. Whatever clever joke Shane thinks he’s making by spelling it Keesum, isn’t that clever.
Keesum goodbye lol
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 12:12 AM
Mo Treating Keesum like he is Manning about to retire
sneakers
10-02-2018, 12:13 AM
Say it to his face
This
This
Case Keenum couldn't beat up Josh Rosen.
MOtorboat
10-02-2018, 12:15 AM
Mo Treating Keesum like he is Manning about to retire
Man, you make some idiotic statements. He’s not good. He’s also not getting benched. Good luck with another of your childish board spammings.
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 12:15 AM
somebody put up the billboards near the stadium for Swag.
It got orton gone, hopefully it gets Keesum gone
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 12:16 AM
Mo Treating Keesum like he is Manning about to retire
You think swag would be an improvement?
wayninja
10-02-2018, 12:17 AM
You think swag would be an improvement?
I think Tebow would be an improvement. Can we just go back to #TebowTime?
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 12:18 AM
You think swag would be an improvement?
he would have reigned destruction down on the worst passing defense in the league.
orlando scandrick at DB.
The chiefs D is laughable and Keesum couldnt even get first downs.
If I need a QB to throw three TDs to six INTs and go three games without doing shit...I can definitely find a cheap Paxton Lynch to make it happen.
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 12:19 AM
he would have reigned destruction down on the worst passing defense in the league.
orlando scandrick at DB.
The chiefs D is laughable and Keesum couldnt even get first downs.
Weird he's not starting. I wonder why?
wayninja
10-02-2018, 12:20 AM
Weird he's not starting. I wonder why?
The conventional wisdom says that if an NFL coach is not playing you, that you are not good at football.
By contrast, Keenum is playing, and is therefore good at football.
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 12:23 AM
Maybe he should start?
wayninja
10-02-2018, 12:29 AM
Yeah, maybe. Can't do a lot worse than 31st in the league. And then we'd know where we stand for next year.
I like it.
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 12:41 AM
Weird he's not starting. I wonder why?
Great things take time.
Great things take time.
Mahomes wasn't built in a day.
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 12:56 AM
Mahomes wasn't built in a day.
You sure? :lol:
You sure? :lol:
I mean...surely he was in the womb for awhile, right?
Or do I not know how that works, either?
Crap!
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 01:04 AM
Broncos do alot of suspect shit.
starting Keesum over Kelly
starting booker over freeman
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 01:05 AM
Broncos just need to find their guy. Maybe it's swag. Maybe it's a HC that whispers to QBs.
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 01:07 AM
Broncos do alot of suspect shit.
starting Keesum over Kelly
starting booker over freeman
Fair.
Snaps show Booker never started though.
QB is monumental. Bench Case and it's over. I give him to the bye week.
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 01:09 AM
Fair.
Snaps show Booker never started though.
QB is monumental. Bench Case and it's over. I give him to the bye week.
They stopped running freeman in the 4th and put in Booker. made zero sense
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 01:11 AM
Reggie Wayne, a receiver talking about running Freeman more on NFL network.
such a shame.
Booker is a better blocker and I think that's why. But that's a guess.
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 01:38 AM
https://twitter.com/coolghost101/status/1046963193845813248
MOtorboat
10-02-2018, 01:41 AM
Booker is a better blocker and I think that's why. But that's a guess.
Booker is useless. They should play Janovich when they feel like playing Booker.
Valar Morghulis
10-02-2018, 03:00 AM
Swag
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 05:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aKS4G89.gif
UnderArmour
10-02-2018, 05:45 AM
Booker is useless. They should play Janovich when they feel like playing Booker.
Booker offers more as a runner and forced defenses to at least somewhat respect a draw or a screen. Janovich doesn't offer the same, outside of a few plays where the defense ignores him. Booker looked good in pass pro all night compared to Lindsay and Freeman.
VJ has to realize his time is running out as head coach, and I don't foresee the $25 million price tag preventing him from pulling the plug for $wag. The Broncos can still cut Keenum next year, and save $10 million against the cap. The deal was designed to give flexibility if a young QB fell on draft day.
Keenum's leash isn't as long as the $25 million would suggest.
ShaneFalco
10-02-2018, 07:08 AM
Right now, Keenum is not elevating the Broncos’ level of play offensively, he’s the one holding the team back the most.
https://predominantlyorange.com/2018/10/01/denver-broncos-quick-reactions-gut-wrenching-loss-chiefs/
Freyaka
10-02-2018, 08:12 AM
You think swag would be an improvement?
My fat unathletic butt would be an improvement...
Freyaka
10-02-2018, 08:13 AM
Broncos just need to find their guy. Maybe it's swag. Maybe it's a HC that whispers to QBs.
Can we lure Andy Reid over with a KFC family meal deal?
I can see this playing out like Orton/Tebow. We will continue to be told that Keenum is the best chance to win, when he plays just well enough to not win.
The fans will continue to grow restless and see what the front office/coaches cannot. Similar to how we just know not to punt to Hill...should continue to run the ball instead of forcing the throw...keeping Freeman/Lindsay on the field instead of Booker...not playing soft coverage on 2nd and motherphucking 30...not taking Von off the field so often or drop him into pass coverage...Marshall is crap at the LB position...radio is not an acceptable hc material...etc.
I don't care at this point. Each loss means less of a chance that this coaching staff stays.
wayninja
10-02-2018, 09:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aKS4G89.gif
Either read his lips or "caption this".
Hawgdriver
10-02-2018, 09:53 AM
Either read his lips or "caption this".
F-ing <much disappoint>.
Northman
10-02-2018, 10:50 AM
I don't care at this point. Each loss means less of a chance that this coaching staff stays.
Thats the only benefit of losing from here on out. Why continue to settle mediocrity only to retain a very bad coaching staff? I would rather take a bad year to get finally get John to clean house.
ShaneFalco
10-04-2018, 06:00 PM
janovich had a touchdown
and keesum also underthrew him
http://i.share.pho.to/8abff67f_m.png
ShaneFalco
10-04-2018, 06:01 PM
Having to make the fullback dive for his ball.
Dude is such a shit qb
Krugan
10-04-2018, 06:24 PM
Sad days
ShaneFalco
10-04-2018, 06:35 PM
https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1047855555921039360
There is no logical argument for Keenum to be the starter anymore. It really is that simple.
wayninja
10-04-2018, 06:37 PM
There is no logical argument for Keenum to be the starter anymore. It really is that simple.
I can think of 18 million reasons.
I can think of 18 million reasons.
That's not logical, though. It's flawed thinking.
wayninja
10-04-2018, 06:41 PM
We abandoned logic when we put pen to paper on this.
Northman
10-04-2018, 06:42 PM
Flawed or not Case wont be going anywhere until we are out of playoff contention. As Ninja put it the pricetag on Case is what is going to keep him in the lineup bar an injury.
Flawed or not Case wont be going anywhere until we are out of playoff contention. As Ninja put it the pricetag on Case is what is going to keep him in the lineup bar an injury.
Oh I agree, this is what will happen. Because we are stupid.
Shazam!
10-04-2018, 06:45 PM
Every VJ presser all hebsays is "what they have to do better"
VJ is like a HS coach in over his head
VJ is a better coach than Keenum is QB.
wayninja
10-04-2018, 07:01 PM
VJ is a better coach than Keenum is QB.
Woah. I know it's emotional up in here, but don't say shit you can't take back.
ShaneFalco
10-04-2018, 07:02 PM
Flawed or not Case wont be going anywhere until we are out of playoff contention. As Ninja put it the pricetag on Case is what is going to keep him in the lineup bar an injury.
I thought he lost the job in preseason when Kelly outplayed him there as well.
he never would started a game for me. and i never would have signed him after seeing him on the Rams.
mediocre garbage with no arm strength
Northman
10-04-2018, 07:08 PM
I thought he lost the job in preseason when Kelly outplayed him there as well.
he never would started a game for me. and i never would have signed him after seeing him on the Rams.
mediocre garbage with no arm strength
Cant argue with any of that but then im not Elway or Vaj. But here we are with the 18 million dollar man.
Cant argue with any of that but then im not Elway or Vaj. But here we are with the 18 million dollar man.
If Keenum doesn't donate the bulk of that money to charity he should burn in hell.
#hottake #getit #yougetit #ohyeah #nevergonnadanceagain #guiltyqbshavenorhythm #heisworsethanjaycutler
Simple Jaded
10-04-2018, 10:34 PM
#WeHadAGreatWeekOfPractice
ShaneFalco
10-05-2018, 08:14 PM
This is why i like college football more.
Teams are so afraid of what they screwed up and paid to a guy, they are afraid to bench him.
In College, you suck as a QB, you get benched for the backup
wayninja
10-05-2018, 09:25 PM
Yeah, paying dudes under the table is always way easier.
Valar Morghulis
10-06-2018, 12:29 AM
Yeah, paying dudes under the table is always way easier.
Ok, you need to stop this. Every damn post!
Ok, you need to stop this. Every damn post!
He's blacked out and his his maximum potential. This is one of the great stretches of posting we've ever seen, and it's coming from one of the most under-talented scrubs on the board.
There is hope for Wayninja! I mean Keenum! I mean Weenum. I mean...oh god!
MOtorboat
10-06-2018, 01:17 AM
Yeah, paying dudes under the table is always way easier.
UR calls this Friday night.
Broncoknight30
10-06-2018, 05:10 AM
The coach at my HS alma mater and ex NFL DB Patrick Surtain would make a better coach than VJ. Working on their 3rd straight state championship. I am expecting him to be getting a coordinator job at a major college soon enough.
I think he would be better than VJ. Not kidding.
Northman
10-06-2018, 08:57 AM
Yikes....
https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43331162_2418453274848016_3567614524292857856_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&oh=e3a5c911c0416d450e6116ef929157e2&oe=5C14A6DF
Hawgdriver
10-06-2018, 09:37 AM
Yikes....
Siemian cost per point of QBR ~ $1,000
Keenum cost per point ~ $500,000
I could be bitter and told ya so about this, but it is what it is. I was hoping I'd be wrong. I still am.
Hawgdriver
10-06-2018, 09:58 AM
Oops, missed a 0 in Siemian's price per QBR. Still, Broncos QB situation is unflattering. Nothing that isn't apparent to the least sophisticated viewer. Hope they fix it.
dogfish
10-06-2018, 03:08 PM
he's a scrub. . . in hindsight, we definitely would have been better off signing teddy or AJ on the cheap. . . ultimately, it's no big deal. . . this year was always going to be about giving VJ enough rope to hang himself. . . i'm not convinced that he and musgrave working together could get the most out of a better QB anyway. . . starting from scratch next year is probably the best scenario. . . bring in a new HC, new coordinator, new offensive scheme, and find a QB who fits with all of those. . . we aren't as devoid of offensive pieces as we have been the past few years, but we need a full re-set at the top of the food chain. . .
honestly, my primary concern is the likelihood that john isn't ready to go with the current trend, and hire a bright young offensive mind. . . if they get gunshy and bring in some conservative old re-tread, i'm afraid they'll end up trying to patch the QB situation with yet another low talent journeyman type, rather than having the patience to build it right. . . this next coaching hire is going to be absolutely critical, IMO. . . we've seen how quickly teams like the eagles and rams have risen with the proper moves at HC and QB, and there's enough talent on this roster right now for us to do the same. . . OTOH, another failed reclamation project at QB will waste the last prime years of guys like von, CHJ, sanders, etc. . . next year's off-season is shaping up to be a real watershed moment for the JFE regime post-manning. . . the duke needs to show that he's still got the chops to get it right, that '15 wasn't just a happy accident propelled by manning choosing denver. . . sucks to be having this discussion in october, but it's what i expected out of this year. . . if we can find a pederson or mcvay, all will be forgiven quickly enough-- the VJ era will go down as a bad blip on the radar. . . just got to get that coaching hire right. . . i can't deny, i'm pretty nervous about that process. . . i really hope john and his guys are paying close attention to what's happening around the league right now. . . bringing back one of their old buddies to build another 1990s offense isn't going to get the job done. . . finding weapons like lindsay, freeman, and sutton is great, but you have to have coaches who are willing and able to use them. . . aside from one starter-level corner, the pieces are still there for the defense to be very good under a better coordinator. . . we really aren't that far off, but the spots where we need the most help are also the hardest spots to fill, so we'll see if the FO is up to the challenge. . . our improved approach to the draft at least gives me hope. . .
:defense:
Elway reportedly wanted to fire VJ last offseason. I don't doubt a VJ departure. I just don't have any faith in finding a QB under Elway. Lynch was a bust and the attraction was his physical talent. TS and Keenum were 'intangible' guys with low ability. Oz is somewhere between the middle of Lynch and TS/CK but lacks great talent or great intangibles, he had no real strength as a player sans his arm.
We're always scared to move on. Houston said **** this noise and ditched Oz and went after Watson. We...rode with TS for two years. We...didn't draft Rosen because Elway didn't like his personality. We..signed CK after preemptively throwing in the towel on Cousins. We did trade up for Lynch, so that does show some moxy, but it feels like we don't trust our analysis and ultimately just play it safe.
I'm in agreement with you about the HC stuff, Fish. But, if we got a defensive guy who was competent and ratcheted up our production there, a young QB could come in and do well so long as the gameplanning wasn't totally awful i.e. we get a nice OC. I'm just stressed about the QB because the HC doesn't matter, and the rest of the team doesn't matter, if you have nothing there.
If we ride into next season with CK as our starter, and there's not a young guy we're committed to behind him then it's at least another two years of shit.
BroncoJoe
10-06-2018, 04:13 PM
Are we writing novellas now? Good grief people!
Northman
10-06-2018, 04:24 PM
Are we writing novellas now? Good grief people!
Look old man, you just have to catch up with the times. Fix your glasses and get back in the game and try to keep up.
dogfish
10-06-2018, 04:29 PM
Are we writing novellas now? Good grief people!
two short paragraphs is a novella? try reading an actual book sometimes, gramps!
:welcome:
Are we writing novellas now? Good grief people!
A few paragraphs can’t be an issue - And they say millennials have bad attention spans.
ShaneFalco
10-06-2018, 05:30 PM
Yikes....
https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43331162_2418453274848016_3567614524292857856_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&oh=e3a5c911c0416d450e6116ef929157e2&oe=5C14A6DF
lol told ya.
Keesum was a downgrade from Trev
Guys...I think I'm a curse. Since I became a fan everything's gone to shit. I'm sorry.
turftoad
10-06-2018, 05:38 PM
Yikes....
https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43331162_2418453274848016_3567614524292857856_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&oh=e3a5c911c0416d450e6116ef929157e2&oe=5C14A6DF
It was after that when TS started to shit the bed!
ShaneFalco
10-06-2018, 05:51 PM
https://image.ibb.co/hmpGDe/e6fnnkuem4q11_69.jpg
Shazam!
10-06-2018, 08:37 PM
Id like to see how Siemien coulda fared with a real running game. Or if he coulda dropped back without worrying about getting killed every step he took. Oh wait the OLine wasnt a problem. Sorry.
Id like to see how Siemien coulda fared with a real running game
Why? He'd still a weak armed panicky QB.
Slick
10-06-2018, 08:46 PM
I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out with a rusty sheet rock screw than see more of Siemian.
I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out with a rusty sheet rock screw than see more of Siemian.
He can't ever be the guy, no matter how hard we squint.
Simple Jaded
10-06-2018, 10:29 PM
Why? He'd still a weak armed panicky QB.
Dude had a cannon compared to Scrappy-doo Keesum.
wayninja
10-07-2018, 06:04 PM
2 TD's and 1 Pick. This is a step up!
Shazam!
10-07-2018, 06:07 PM
I still believe Siemien would be an ok starter, a victim of a horrible OLine and nearly unmanned at TE
I still believe Siemien would be an ok starter, a victim of a horrible OLine and nearly unmanned at TE
You have a good heart.
BroncoJoe
10-07-2018, 06:13 PM
Look old man, you just have to catch up with the times. Fix your glasses and get back in the game and try to keep up.
two short paragraphs is a novella? try reading an actual book sometimes, gramps!
:welcome:
A few paragraphs can’t be an issue - And they say millennials have bad attention spans.
I've always said, if you have to use 1,000 words to make a point, you don't have one.
MOtorboat
10-07-2018, 06:19 PM
Guys, reading is hard for Joe.
Six words.
I've always said, if you have to use 1,000 words to make a point, you don't have one.
Come on, Joe. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Hawgdriver
10-07-2018, 11:35 PM
I've always said, if you have to use 1,000 words to make a point, you don't have one.
Ninja keeps saying I have a point, but I've yet to find it.
Simple Jaded
10-08-2018, 12:19 AM
Joe taught me the word Pedantic, or maybe that was Nut.
I forgot what it means though.
Joe taught me the word Pedantic, or maybe that was Nut.
I forgot what it means though.
I think it was me, tbh.
dogfish
10-08-2018, 12:27 AM
Joe taught me the word Pedantic, or maybe that was Nut.
I forgot what it means though.
it basically means joel. . .
ShaneFalco
10-08-2018, 03:04 AM
“That’s what I loved to see,” said defensive lineman Leonard Williams, who had two sacks. “There were a few times when we hit him… even if it wasn’t a sack. We were getting to him a lot. He seemed really uncomfortable. There were times when we wouldn’t even get to him and he would just get scared and throw the ball away. There would be nobody over there. That’s the best thing you could do as a defense: Get in the head of the offense flustered like that.”:lol:
wayninja
10-08-2018, 11:46 AM
Ninja keeps saying I have a point, but I've yet to find it.
To extrapolate. A picture is worth 1,000 words, but you don't have a point if you use that many words. Conclusion: Pictures are pointless.
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