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VonDoom
08-31-2018, 12:40 PM
Post them here when you hear anything. Based on Twitter, it sounds like Jordan Leslie was cut. Lots more to come by tomorrow.

2018 Practice Squad:
S Trey Marshall
TE Brian Parker
OG Austin Schlottmann
NT Kyle Peko
WR River Cracraft
CB Brendan Langley
RB David Williams
WR Carlos Henderson (on suspended list for week one)
OL Avery Gennesy (former Browns)
OLB Jeff Holland
DL DeShawn Williams

2018 cuts:
WR Mark Chapman
DE Antonio Simmons
G Jeremiah Poutaski
OLB Marcus Rush
DL DeQuinton Osborne
WR Jordan Leslie
DL DeShawn Williams
CB Michael Hunter
OL J.J. Dielman (injured)
WR Bryce Bobo
WR John Diarse
CB Marcus Rios (injured)
OT Austin Fleer
WR Carlos Henderson
S Jordan Moore (injured)
RB De'Angelo Henderson
CB Brendan Langley
OLB Jeff Holland
S Trey Marshall
TE Brian Parker
ILB Zaire Anderson
TE Austin Traylor
WR Isaiah McKenzie
WR River Cracraft
DL Clinton McDonald
NT Kyle Peko
S Shamarko Thomas
OT Leon Johnson
OT Cyrus Kouandjio
CB CJ Smith
RB David Williams
WR DeAndrew White
OG Austin Schlottmann
DL Caushaud Lyons
TE Troy Fumagalli (IR)
OL Andreas Knappe (injured)

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 12:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Jles9/status/1035578824484777985

Like you said, looks like Jordan Leslie is gone.

Denver Native (Carol)
08-31-2018, 12:56 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
18s18 seconds ago

Broncos cut WR Mark Chapman. He was good. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
10s10 seconds ago

Broncos cut DE Antonio Simmons, per source. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos have cut G Jeremiah Poutaski and OLB Marcus Rush, per source. Both got considerable No. 2 reps. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
6m6 minutes ago

Broncos have cut DL DeQuinton Osborne. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
16m16 minutes ago

Broncos have cut WR Jordan Leslie. #9sports

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 01:03 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
18s18 seconds ago

Broncos cut WR Mark Chapman. He was good. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
10s10 seconds ago

Broncos cut DE Antonio Simmons, per source. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos have cut G Jeremiah Poutaski and OLB Marcus Rush, per source. Both got considerable No. 2 reps. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
6m6 minutes ago

Broncos have cut DL DeQuinton Osborne. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
16m16 minutes ago

Broncos have cut WR Jordan Leslie. #9sports

Nothing shocking so far. Thanks for posting that Carol! You and VonDoom do great work on keeping us in the loop.

VonDoom
08-31-2018, 01:08 PM
Carol beat me to all of those :D

And yes, nothing shocking so far

Northman
08-31-2018, 01:14 PM
Is Leslie the guy wearing #2? I thought he was pretty decent but understand we have a lot of depth at that position.

Hawgdriver
08-31-2018, 01:15 PM
Is Leslie the guy wearing #2? I thought he was pretty decent but understand we have a lot of depth at that position.

Nah. #19 I think. He might make a 53 somewhere.

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 01:16 PM
Is Leslie the guy wearing #2? I thought he was pretty decent but understand we have a lot of depth at that position.

No, 2 was Phillip Lindsay and he's a stone cold lock to make the team. The team has basically all but confirmed it. We have some depth at RB, but basically he's a beast on special teams and that earned him a roster spot.

LawDog
08-31-2018, 01:17 PM
Especially with Chapman and Leslie, getting cut this morning gives them a better chance at catching on with another team. That was often the way when teams had multiple cut-down days.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if the team is working the phones to try and package Lynch in some sort of multi-player trade. Don't see anyone being interested in a straight "Lynch for a pick" type trade. Whatever Radio says about Lynch is irrelevant because the decision has nothing to do with him.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 01:17 PM
I kind doubt there will be much in the way shocking cuts.

Krugan
08-31-2018, 01:20 PM
Can i ask that we keep this thread clear of comments and open for just the players? Im still out of internet at home and cant surf much from work!!!!

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 01:35 PM
Can i ask that we keep this thread clear of comments and open for just the players? Im still out of internet at home and cant surf much from work!!!!

Then we need to have a second thread to discuss cuts then. People want to talk about this stuff and it's fair for us to want to have a discussion. I get where you are coming from, but you can't expect people to just stop having a discussion to make it more convenient.

If it's going to happen, ok, but there needs to be a seperate place where this information can be discussed.

Denver Native (Carol)
08-31-2018, 02:12 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
34m34 minutes ago

DL DeShawn Williams among Broncos cuts, per source. Coaching staff was high on him during offseason. But DL group hard to crack. #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
36m36 minutes ago

Broncos waive CB Michael Hunter, per source. #9sports

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 02:14 PM
I wonder how many of the cuts they'll try to get done today?

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 02:20 PM
I wonder how many of the cuts they'll try to get done today?

I think they all need done by early tomorrow. Denver has historically been an early bird when it comes to cuts. I expect us to be at 53 or pretty darn close to 53 by end of day.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 02:23 PM
I think they all need done by early tomorrow. Denver has historically been an early bird when it comes to cuts. I expect us to be at 53 or pretty darn close to 53 by end of day.

I know it has to all be done by tomorrow, but I'm just curious as to how cuts will come tomorrow.

Also I just looked, cut have to be done prior to 4 pm EDT, whatever that means. Anyway it's sounds like they have until noonish MDT.

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 02:27 PM
I know it has to all be done by tomorrow, but I'm just curious as to how cuts will come tomorrow.

Also I just looked, have until 4 pm EDT, which is what 2 pm MDT?

I don't expect there to be many cuts tomorrow. Our strategy tends to be quickly cut to 53. Then watch who everyone else is cutting and snag a few players from other cuts to add to our own.

If anyone is getting cut tomorrow, it'll be people being cut to make room for tomorrow's additions to the roster.

GEM
08-31-2018, 02:56 PM
I edited the first post with the cuts so far. I will try to keep up with listing them on the first post. Hope that helps, Krugan. :)

VonDoom
08-31-2018, 02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1035614923169124357?s=21

Freyaka
08-31-2018, 03:07 PM
I edited the first post with the cuts so far. I will try to keep up with listing them on the first post. Hope that helps, Krugan. :)

You da real MVP!

Denver Native (Carol)
08-31-2018, 03:30 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
14m14 minutes ago

Talked to source with close ties to CU Buffs program. Broncos did cut former Buff WR Bryce Bobo. #9sports

Denver Native (Carol)
08-31-2018, 03:32 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

The good news for Broncos WR John Diarse was not fined for his unnecessary roughness penalty last week at Washington. The bad news for Diarse is he was waived by the Broncos today, per league source. Diarse had 4 catches for 68 yards this preseason. #9sports

underrated29
08-31-2018, 03:33 PM
Hes my sleeper WR. I hope he makes the PS. This is brandon Marshall again. He just needs a little bit of time.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 03:40 PM
I went back and looked at the current and their were twelve wide receivers on the roster for camp, and four have been cut so far.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 03:40 PM
Hes my sleeper WR. I hope he makes the PS. This is brandon Marshall again. He just needs a little bit of time.

Which receiver are talking about?

underrated29
08-31-2018, 03:47 PM
Which receiver are talking about?

John Diarse.
Hes likely going to leave as we have a couple big bodied WR already (DT, Sutton and Sunshine) but I like his game. Oh well.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
08-31-2018, 03:48 PM
Is Sunshine on the roster?

underrated29
08-31-2018, 03:54 PM
Is Sunshine on the roster?

I feel like he was IR? Or maybe PUP and then IR? I do not think he makes the squad even when healthy. We have some real real good wr on the roster.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 03:54 PM
John Diarse.
Hes likely going to leave as we have a couple big bodied WR already (DT, Sutton and Sunshine) but I like his game. Oh well.

He's already been cut, so if he's going turn into the next Brandon Marshall it won't be in Denver. Having watched him, doesn't reminded me Brandon Marshall.

BroncoWave
08-31-2018, 03:58 PM
He's already been cut, so if he's going turn into the next Brandon Marshall it won't be in Denver. Having watched him, doesn't reminded me Brandon Marshall.

He could go on the practice squad.

Denver Native (Carol)
08-31-2018, 04:48 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
7m7 minutes ago

Confirming CB Marcus Rios was waived/injured (1st by @ryanohalloran). #9sports

Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
9m9 minutes ago

Broncos have cut OT Austin Fleer, per league source. #9sports

Jsteve01
08-31-2018, 05:44 PM
John Diarse.
Hes likely going to leave as we have a couple big bodied WR already (DT, Sutton and Sunshine) but I like his game. Oh well.

He's already been cut, so if he's going turn into the next Brandon Marshall it won't be in Denver. Having watched him, doesn't reminded me Brandon Marshall.

Patrick is better

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 05:58 PM
Patrick is better

I agree.

ShaneFalco
08-31-2018, 06:02 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
14m14 minutes ago

Talked to source with close ties to CU Buffs program. Broncos did cut former Buff WR Bryce Bobo. #9sports

that sucks.

Bobo didnt even get a pass thrown at him in a game.

Would have liked to keep on PS.

GEM
08-31-2018, 06:06 PM
Hi guys I am not going to be able to update the first post. I have left work and I'm not able to do it anymore. On my way to get my daughter's senior pictures taken. Have a good night.

Jsteve01
08-31-2018, 06:10 PM
Hi guys I am not going to be able to update the first post. I have left work and I'm not able to do it anymore. On my way to get my daughter's senior pictures taken. Have a good night. cant doom?

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 06:10 PM
that sucks.

Bobo didnt even get a pass thrown at him in a game.

Would have liked to keep on PS.

They haven't even finished with cuts Shane. He could end up the practice squad, whoever if they keep six receivers then it doesn't seem likely.

Krugan
08-31-2018, 06:10 PM
Thank you for what you could do! Appreciate the effort.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 06:12 PM
cant doom?

Only if he's a moderator and I don't think he is.

Jsteve01
08-31-2018, 06:14 PM
cant doom?

Only if he's a moderator and I don't think he is.

It is his post

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 06:18 PM
It is his post

That's right he started the thread.

VonDoom
08-31-2018, 06:35 PM
Gem lists 13 guys cut in the original post and it seems like that’s it for today based on what I’m seeing on Twitter. I’ll try to keep up tomorrow

VonDoom
08-31-2018, 06:37 PM
I feel like he was IR? Or maybe PUP and then IR? I do not think he makes the squad even when healthy. We have some real real good wr on the roster.

Yeah he’s on PUP for now. Depends on how guys are playing and who’s hurt by the time he comes back. Not sure if he’ll make the roster

underrated29
08-31-2018, 06:42 PM
He's already been cut, so if he's going turn into the next Brandon Marshall it won't be in Denver. Having watched him, doesn't reminded me Brandon Marshall.

I know this that is why I said PS hopeful. Quite a few have seen Marshall in him. Look at his college highlights (since he does not have many in the pros yet) and tell me what wr you see.



Patrick is better

I do not disagree. That is why Diarse is my sleeper.

Cugel
08-31-2018, 07:37 PM
Pretty interesting commentary by former CU great WR Mike Pritchard. I laughed my ass off about the Paxton analogy! :laugh:


Mike Pritchard (http://1043thefan.com/category/podcast_player/?a=10022129&sid=1171&n=Pritchard+and+Cecil): "I got a spare tire with a rusty nail stuck in it. Should I keep it just because it's paid for? Paxton is a flat spare tire with a rusty nail in it! I get the analogy. Yeah at some point you gotta just move on and buy a new tire! But you hate buying a new tire because that old tire was getting you by. It was getting you to where you needed to get to. But, Paxton's never been that case.

DeAngelo Henderson, to me is the player who has so much potential that maybe as an organization you didn't invest enough into, enough time to find out what this guy's made of. And I don't know why. Is it regrettable if you pick DeVontee Booker over DeAngelo Henderson and DeAngelo Henderson goes on and has a tremendous pro career? Yeah! You missed that one. But, you don't have to miss it! And that's what's frustrating for fans and for sports writers who are watching the situation. We're not behind the scenes. We're evaluating it.

But, the appearance is now that DeAngelo Henderson is just a guy you didn't invest enough in to find out what this guy can do."

Cecil Lammey: "And you should have. This does happen. I can give you two examples from one team. The Seahawks had Alex Collins and they cut him and then he ran for almost 1,000 yards last year. They also years ago had a guy named Spencer Ware. They got rid of him. This happens. Priest Holmes was with the Baltimore Ravens before he was PRIEST HOLMES!!! OMG!!! with the Kansas City Chiefs.

That one would sting though [DeAngelo Henderson]. Paxton goes somewhere else and holds a clipboard for 5 years somewhere else and then is out of the league? Whatever! That doesn't sting. But, if you get rid of DeAngelo Henderson and he goes somewhere else and becomes the next Maurice Jones Drew? That one's gonna hurt, man!"

Mike Pritchard: "Yup."

Cecil: "No matter how good Royce Freeman becomes, that's gonna sting."

Pritchard: "And the other side is. If you release DeVontee Booker, he goes somewhere else and becomes --- the same Booker. You know what you've got with Booker. You DON'T know with DeAngelo Henderson."

Cecil: "Is this bizarro-world again?"

Mike Pritchard: "Totally. Totally!"

"The other point is that Williams would be on your practice squad.

Cecil: "David Williams was always an interesting pick to me because they must have figured they couldn't get him as an undrafted FA. And they must have strongly thought that they could get Phillip Lindsey. Not just because of his local connection, but because because I've heard no buzz about him being able to be scooped up by another team. I have heard that Sam Jones would get scooped up by another team. I've also heard that Tim Patrick would get scooped up by another team if you try to get too cute and sneak these guys through the waiver wire. I think David Williams can sneak through.

Yeah, but why the hell should they have to "sneak Williams through" when they could just damn well CUT Booker, who has done exactly nothing in his entire NFL career to indicate that he's more than a guy who will run into the backs of his own blockers.

Mark Schlereth calls him "Sir Mix-a-lot" because he "likes big butts and he cannot lie, you other brothers can't deny" since he's running into the rear ends of his own blockers so often! :laugh:

ChubbNYiadom
08-31-2018, 10:20 PM
Does this mean Lynch actually saved himself from being chopped? One week ago he was almost surely going to be among the first cut but damn..

Coach now talking 3 quarterback?

Trade looking? Unlikely

I honestly think Lynch finally showed what elway has been waiting to see and that's a guy who looked comfortable mentally which allowed for his raw physical ability to shine through. Who knows where Lynch goes from here but apparently he's either earned himself another shot at competing or a trade that I've heard nothing about.

TXBRONC
08-31-2018, 10:51 PM
Does this mean Lynch actually saved himself from being chopped? One week ago he was almost surely going to be among the first cut but damn..

Coach now talking 3 quarterback?

Trade looking? Unlikely

I honestly think Lynch finally showed what elway has been waiting to see and that's a guy who looked comfortable mentally which allowed for his raw physical ability to shine through. Who knows where Lynch goes from here but apparently he's either earned himself another shot at competing or a trade that I've heard nothing about.

You do know there more cuts that have be made before 2 pm tomorrow? While I think Lynch will be on the team it's not something I would be willing to bet money on.

ChubbNYiadom
08-31-2018, 10:56 PM
You do know there more cuts that have be made before 2 pm tomorrow? While I think Lynch will be on the team it's not something I would be willing to bet money on.

I wouldn't bet on it either, it just appears that way to me that he finished strong and snuck in the back door making the team.

sneakers
09-01-2018, 06:20 AM
how many more to go?

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 07:56 AM
how many more to go?

I think 24 today

TXBRONC
09-01-2018, 08:04 AM
I think 24 today

Wow that's quite a few. That mean that more than half is being left for the last five hours.

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 10:18 AM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
14m14 minutes ago

Talked to source with close ties to CU Buffs program. Broncos did cut former Buff WR Bryce Bobo. #9sports

Guy has an awesome name lol.

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 10:24 AM
I think 24 today

I'm actually surprised, I really thought we'd cut a lot more yesterday. Whiffed on that prediction.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 10:31 AM
https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1035912514284843008?s=21

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 10:58 AM
https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035916726892933121

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 10:59 AM
Not too surprising, but this one still stings a little:

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035917707294605312

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:01 AM
https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035920340810063879

UnderArmour
09-01-2018, 11:03 AM
https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035920340810063879

Dang, two 2017 3rd rounders cut. "No surviving" sounds about right.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:04 AM
Dang, two 2017 3rd rounders cut. "No surviving" sounds about right.

Was just about to post this. That 2017 class was really something.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:07 AM
This one also hurts a bit:

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035921248365228032

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035921696988045312

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:12 AM
Totally worth it, right?

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035922699263066113

LawDog
09-01-2018, 11:30 AM
Totally worth it, right?

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035922699263066113

Please Nicki, don’t say it out loud...

Northman
09-01-2018, 11:41 AM
List of Broncos cuts

Wide receiver, Jordan Leslie - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806264/broncos-cut-jordan-leslie)
Defensive lineman, DeQuinton Osborne - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806336/denver-broncos-cut-dequinton-osborne)
Guard, Jeremiah Poutasi - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806358/broncos-cut-jeremiah-poutasi)
Outside linebacker, Marcus Rush - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806402/broncos-cut-marcus-rush)
Defensive end, Antonio Simmons - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806422/broncos-cut-antonio-simmons)
Wide receiver, Mark Chapman - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806424/broncos-waive-wide-receiver-mark-chapman)
Cornerback, Marcus Rios - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806444/broncos-waive-marcus-rios)
Cornerback, Michael Hunter - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806574/broncos-waive-michael-hunter)
Defensive end, DeShawn Williams - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806586/broncos-waive-defensive-end-deshawn-williams)
Offensive lineman, J.J. Dielman - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806606/broncos-waived-jj-dielman)
Wide receiver, Bryce Bobo - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806932/broncos-cut-bryce-bobo)
Wide receiver, John Diarse - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17806976/denver-broncos-cut-john-diarse)
Offensive tackle, Austin Fleer - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/8/31/17807038/broncos-cut-austin-fleer)
Wide receiver, Carlos Henderson - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/9/1/17809058/report-broncos-will-cut-wide-receiver-carlos-henderson)
Safety, Jordan Moore - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/9/1/17809116/broncos-waived-jordan-moore)
Running back, De’Angelo Henderson - Source (https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/9/1/17809132/report-broncos-cut-running-back-deangelo-henderson)
Cornerback, Brendan Langley - Source (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035920340810063879)
Outside linebacker, Jeff Holland - Source (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035922179395706880)
Safety, Trey Marshall - Source (https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/1035926054865534977)
Tight end, Brian Parker - Source (https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1035926809626456064)

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:47 AM
I'm updating the original post in this thread with all cuts but posting them as I find them:


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
21m21 minutes ago

Broncos are cutting rookie S Trey Marshall. Hope to sign him back on practice squad, per source. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
16m16 minutes ago

Broncos have cut TE Brian Parker. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
10m10 minutes ago

Surprise cut: Broncos waive ILB Zaire Anderson, per sources. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3m3 minutes ago

Broncos cut TE Austin Traylor, per source. #9sports

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:47 AM
With Anderson gone, that means Alexander Johnson likely makes it; same with Traylor gone, LaCosse should be TE3

Nomad
09-01-2018, 11:48 AM
I guess Lynch's cry to remain a Bronco worked. LoL.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:49 AM
This likely means we're taking only 5 WR, because both of these guys were in the running to be #6:


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
11s11 seconds ago

The Broncos are cutting WRs Isaiah McKenzie and River Cracraft, per source.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 11:51 AM
A little surprised by this one:


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
17s18 seconds ago

Broncos have cut DL Clinton McDonald, per source.

slim
09-01-2018, 11:59 AM
Totally worth it, right?

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035922699263066113

Disappointing. Booker better figure it out

TXBRONC
09-01-2018, 11:59 AM
Not too surprising, but this one still stings a little:

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035917707294605312

Which one, I'm on my phone right now and can't see it.

TXBRONC
09-01-2018, 12:00 PM
I guess Lynch's cry to remain a Bronco worked. LoL.

I doubt that's why they kept him.

UnderArmour
09-01-2018, 12:01 PM
Was just about to post this. That 2017 class was really something.

1 20 Garett Bolles OT Utah
2 51 DeMarcus Walker DE Florida State
3 82 Carlos Henderson WR Louisiana Tech
3 101 Brendan Langley CB Lamar
5 145 Jake Butt TE Michigan
5 172 Isaiah McKenzie WR Georgia
6 203 De'Angelo Henderson RB Coastal Carolina
7 253 Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss

RIP 2017 draft class.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:05 PM
Which one, I'm on my phone right now and can't see it.

De’Angelo Henderson

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:05 PM
https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/1035935428111560704?s=21

TXBRONC
09-01-2018, 12:08 PM
De’Angelo Henderson

When I saw a more rescent updated list and saw his name I guessed that's who you meant. Thanks for the clarification.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:10 PM
https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/1035936108935344128?s=21

Northman
09-01-2018, 12:11 PM
Tweets arent showing up on here. Anyway you can just post the name?

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:12 PM
https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/1035937299161382913?s=21

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:12 PM
Tweets arent showing up on here. Anyway you can just post the name?

Hmm, they’re showing up for me. First post is updated too

TXBRONC
09-01-2018, 12:20 PM
This likely means we're taking only 5 WR, because both of these guys were in the running to be #6:


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
11s11 seconds ago

The Broncos are cutting WRs Isaiah McKenzie and River Cracraft, per source.

If I counted correctly Denver had 13 receivers on the camp roster. North's updated list has five, plus the two that you've here that leaves Denver with six wide outs atm.

Buff
09-01-2018, 12:21 PM
1 20 Garett Bolles OT Utah
2 51 DeMarcus Walker DE Florida State
3 82 Carlos Henderson WR Louisiana Tech
3 101 Brendan Langley CB Lamar
5 145 Jake Butt TE Michigan
5 172 Isaiah McKenzie WR Georgia
6 203 De'Angelo Henderson RB Coastal Carolina
7 253 Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss

RIP 2017 draft class.

https://twitter.com/Jeff_Legwold/status/1035939767240859648

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:22 PM
If I counted correctly Denver had 13 receivers on the camp roster. North's updated list has five, plus the two that you've here that leaves Denver with six wide outs atm.

It'll end up being five - DT, Sanders, Sutton, Hamilton and Patrick. Taylor is on PUP for now but he would be a possible sixth. Can't think of anyone else who would make it.

Nomad
09-01-2018, 12:22 PM
I doubt that's why the kept him.

I was kidding, TX. I forgot to put my :D. I'm sure Elway is hoping one more year.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-01-2018, 12:23 PM
“Whine and cry”

I love Wolfe. :lol:

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:23 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3m3 minutes ago

Broncos cut OT Cyrus Kouandjio, kept C-G Sam Jones. So Broncos' backup OLmen will be Billy Turner, Max Garcia, Elijah Wilkinson, Jones. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
4m4 minutes ago

Broncos cut S Shamarko Thomas, kept S Dymonte Thomas, per source. Broncos' 5 safeties: Darian Stewart, Justin Simmons, Will Parks, Su'a Cravens, Dymonte Thomas. #9sports

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 12:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Jeff_Legwold/status/1035939767240859648

Yikes.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:37 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
9m9 minutes ago

Broncos are keeping ILB Joseph Jones primarily because he may well be their No. 1 core special teamer. Broncos ILB group: Brandon Marshall, Todd Davis, Josey Jewell, Keishawn Bierria, Jones, Alexander Johnson. Six is heavy but Johnson has too much upside. #9sports


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
6m6 minutes ago

The Broncos SO FAR are keeping 5 WRs, 6 ILBs, 4 OLBs, 9 OL


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3m3 minutes ago

Broncos will look at waiver wire, but Paxton Lynch will be on 53 as of 2 p.m. Saturday. Best No. 3 QB in the league. Better than any other prospect who's released. Better than veteran QB who would have to learn new system. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos have waived CB C.J. Smith, but practice squad is strong possibility. #9sports


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
31s31 seconds ago

The Broncos have waived RB David Williams, per source

Northman
09-01-2018, 12:39 PM
Better than any other prospect who's released.

I highly doubt that.

BeefStew25
09-01-2018, 12:39 PM
I’m puzzled at some of these things.

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 12:41 PM
What is Klis smoking?

UnderArmour
09-01-2018, 12:43 PM
I highly doubt that.

I mean, can you list them? I don't think people understand how non-existent the "veteran quarterback market" is this year.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 12:45 PM
What is Klis smoking?

Not sure why he’s sucking up to our QB3

GEM
09-01-2018, 12:47 PM
that's some b******* cutting Henderson and keeping Booker on the team. That sucks!

Northman
09-01-2018, 12:49 PM
I mean, can you list them? I don't think people understand how non-existent the "veteran quarterback market" is this year.

Well, considering the cuts are not finalized yet i would say no i cant list them. But there are plenty of subpar vet QB's that are better than Lynch. Sorry you disagree though.

G_Money
09-01-2018, 12:49 PM
that's some b******* cutting Henderson and keeping Booker on the team. That sucks!

Dunno if De'Angelo can make it to the practice squad - I expect one of him or Williams to be on it. I still think it's the wrong move. I understand the desire for some reliability in the young backfield... just not sure what about Booker's first couple of years makes him more reliable.

GEM
09-01-2018, 12:51 PM
When the best description of a guy is he likes big butts and cannot lie you know he's freaking bad.

Mike
09-01-2018, 12:52 PM
Dunno if De'Angelo can make it to the practice squad - I expect one of him or Williams to be on it. I still think it's the wrong move. I understand the desire for some reliability in the young backfield... just not sure what about Booker's first couple of years makes him more reliable.

Booker and Lynch are just wastes of roster space. Don't understand this FO at all. Henderson is a shifty back with good vision. Shouldn't have been released.

Northman
09-01-2018, 12:53 PM
Booker and Lynch are just wastes of roster space. Don't understand this FO at all. Henderson is a shifty back with good vision. Shouldn't have been released.

Agree 100%

Tned
09-01-2018, 12:53 PM
What is Klis smoking?

That's my reaction as well.

What QBs are currently out there?

I've always figured it would come down to first if they were confident Kelly could be the backup and two if they wanted two or three QBs. If they were concerned with Kelly at three, then they needed Kelly and a vet backup (cut Lynch). If they only wanted two QBs, cut Lynch. If they were confident with Kelly at two, and wanted to keep three QBs, then keep Lynch due to it being easier on the cap and he still has that long shot of having upside.

GEM
09-01-2018, 12:53 PM
It's like they're addicted to average.

UnderArmour
09-01-2018, 12:53 PM
Well, considering the cuts are not finalized yet i would say no i cant list them. But there are plenty of subpar vet QB's that are better than Lynch. Sorry you disagree though.

When cuts are finalized, I would love to read your list.

Spoiler: Your list is going to look much worse than Lynch. There's a reason why Bridgewater went for a 3rd rounder, and Brett Hundley went for a 6th. If the Broncos are rolling with 3 QBs, it makes sense to keep Lynch. As bad as Lynch as been, I'd actually still rather have him than Brett Hundley.

Northman
09-01-2018, 12:55 PM
When cuts are finalized, I would love to read your list.

Spoiler: Your list is going to look much worse than Lynch. There's a reason why Bridgewater went for a 3rd rounder, and Brett Hundley went for a 6th. If the Broncos are rolling with 3 QBs, it makes sense to keep Lynch. As bad as Lynch as been, I'd actually still rather have him than Brett Hundley.

Nah, Lynch is very bottom of the barrell. Especially for a 3rd string QB to which would never see playing time this year.

Tned
09-01-2018, 12:58 PM
that's some b******* cutting Henderson and keeping Booker on the team. That sucks!

I wasn't sure if they would go four RBs like last year, but figured if they went three Booker would stay. Williams might make it to practice squad, can't imagine Henderson will.

G_Money
09-01-2018, 01:02 PM
Several parts of the 2017 draft class that are gone should have been gone. Langley hasn't learned a thing, McKenzie is gone for the same problems I was worried about on draft day, and Carlos Henderson's raw talent couldn't overcome his emotional and personal issues. De'Angelo getting cut though? I understand it's a backup RB, but these are the sort of things that matter as attrition hits the team during the season. Booker will get plenty of touches this year. D-Henderson would have as well. Only one of them has shown burst and vision along with good hands, and it's not the one we kept.

I'm glad Elway's not wasting any more time on some of last year's draft mistakes - but ya gotta keep the talent you did find.

If Freeman and Lindsay both get a thousand+ yards from scrimmage this year then we won't care, so here's hoping for that.

NightTerror218
09-01-2018, 01:03 PM
From what I hear booker is still #1 RB. Freeman has looked much better but booker is 1a

Nomad
09-01-2018, 01:07 PM
It's like they're addicted to average.

Yeah...I'm really getting annoyed with VJ. I'm a 'give a guy a chance' type of guy, but my patience with him is almost to its limit.

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:08 PM
I mean, can you list them? I don't think people understand how non-existent the "veteran quarterback market" is this year.

Is he better than Christian Hackenberg? Jake Rudock? I don't know if he is, and that's kind of the problem.

I was more concerned with the sentence prior to that: "Best No. 3 QB in the league."

Lamar Jackson? Osweiler? Nathan Peterman? Drew Stanton? Josh Dobbs? Luke Falk? Cardale Jones? E.J. Manuel? Mike Glennon? Tom Savage? Kyle Sloter? Nate Sudfeld?

I can't legitimately say he's better than any of them, and again, isn't that kind of the problem?

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:09 PM
Yeah...I'm really getting annoyed with VJ. I'm a 'give a guy a chance' type of guy, but my patience with him is almost to its limit.

They cut McKenzie, so I'll reserve some judgment until they're 0-5.

:coffee:

Northman
09-01-2018, 01:12 PM
Is he better than Christian Hackenberg? Jake Rudock? I don't know if he is, and that's kind of the problem.

I was more concerned with the sentence prior to that: "Best No. 3 QB in the league."

Lamar Jackson? Osweiler? Nathan Peterman? Drew Stanton? Josh Dobbs? Luke Falk? Cardale Jones? E.J. Manuel? Mike Glennon? Tom Savage? Kyle Sloter? Nate Sudfeld?

I can't legitimately say he's better than any of them, and again, isn't that kind of the problem?

There are quite a few that you listed i would take any day over Lynch. And its not even close, especially if we are talking about a 3rd stringer.

Nomad
09-01-2018, 01:14 PM
They cut McKenzie, so I'll reserve some judgment until they're 0-5.

:coffee:

He still does have his chance. I don't want him to fail because that means bad news for the Broncos. I am just not as optimistic as I use to be.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:20 PM
Is he better than Christian Hackenberg? Jake Rudock? I don't know if he is, and that's kind of the problem.

I was more concerned with the sentence prior to that: "Best No. 3 QB in the league."

Lamar Jackson? Osweiler? Nathan Peterman? Drew Stanton? Josh Dobbs? Luke Falk? Cardale Jones? E.J. Manuel? Mike Glennon? Tom Savage? Kyle Sloter? Nate Sudfeld?

I can't legitimately say he's better than any of them, and again, isn't that kind of the problem?

This is a great point. We already know Sloter is better :lol:

I think I read that Falk got cut but that list of other guys is pretty damning. We're not talking about great QB's in most cases but yeah, there could be a case for any of them over Lynch. Personally I just wanted to keep two this year so a guy like Holland could make the team but obviously they felt otherwise.

Jsteve01
09-01-2018, 01:20 PM
Heres hoping book pulls a knowshon

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:25 PM
This is a great point. We already know Sloter is better :lol:

I think I read that Falk got cut but that list of other guys is pretty damning. We're not talking about great QB's in most cases but yeah, there could be a case for any of them over Lynch. Personally I just wanted to keep two this year so a guy like Holland could make the team but obviously they felt otherwise.

Falk got cut?

G_Money
09-01-2018, 01:26 PM
From what I hear booker is still #1 RB. Freeman has looked much better but booker is 1a

At some point you go with the production. We'll see how many games it costs us, but other players want the guy who performs out there as much as fans do - and this coaching staff doesn't have a lot of wiggle room to be stubborn with petted favorites who don't immediately produce.

They don't exactly have Mike Shanahan's level of job security.

Jsteve01
09-01-2018, 01:27 PM
Cutting Holland really sucks when you consider both Ray and Barrett are almost assuredly gone next year

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:28 PM
I'm counting and I still see some cuts that need to be made. Based on reports, this looks like our current roster, with more change coming as other teams cut guys:

QB - Keenum, Kelly, Lynch
RB - Freeman, Booker, Lindsay
FB - Janovich
WR - Thomas, Sanders, Sutton, Hamilton, Patrick (haven't heard anything on DeAndrew White but I'm thinking he'll be cut)
TE - Heuerman, Butt, LaCosse (Fumagalli is likely going to be stashed on IR)
OL - Bolles, Veldheer, Leary, McGovern, Paradis, Turner, Garcia, Wilkinson, Jones (didn't see anything on Knappe; Schlottman either, but I think he got hurt the other day)

DL - Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Kerr, Peko, Harris
OLB - Miller, Chubb, Ray, Barrett
ILB - Marshall, Davis, Jewell, Johnson, Jones, Bierrria
CB - Harris, Roby, Brock, Jones, Yiadom
S - Simmons, Stewart, Parks, Cravens, Thomas

K/P/LS - McManus, King, Kreiter

wayninja
09-01-2018, 01:28 PM
Scratching my head at D. Henderson...

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:30 PM
Falk got cut?

Looks that way:


Ryan Hannable
‏Verified account @RyanHannable
3m3 minutes ago

Titans released QB Luke Falk. Wonder how Patriots view him compared to Danny Etling. It would seem like they will have a QB on the practice squad.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 01:31 PM
I'm counting and I still see some cuts that need to be made. Based on reports, this looks like our current roster, with more change coming as other teams cut guys:

QB - Keenum, Kelly, Lynch
RB - Freeman, Booker, Lindsay
FB - Janovich
WR - Thomas, Sanders, Sutton, Hamilton, Patrick (haven't heard anything on DeAndrew White but I'm thinking he'll be cut)
TE - Heuerman, Butt, LaCosse (Fumagalli is likely going to be stashed on IR)
OL - Bolles, Veldheer, Leary, McGovern, Paradis, Turner, Garcia, Wilkinson, Jones (didn't see anything on Knappe; Schlottman either, but I think he got hurt the other day)

DL - Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Kerr, Peko, Harris
OLB - Miller, Chubb, Ray, Barrett
ILB - Marshall, Davis, Jewell, Johnson, Jones, Bierrria
CB - Harris, Roby, Brock, Jones, Yiadom
S - Simmons, Stewart, Parks, Cravens, Thomas

K/P/LS - McManus, King, Kreiter

I thought Peko got cut?

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:31 PM
Scratching my head at D. Henderson...

Appeared to be only four roster spots for running backs and they insist on a fullback, so one of Henderson/Lindsay had to go. I think they made the right decision.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:31 PM
I thought Peko got cut?

Kyle Peko, who we cut and bring back repeatedly every year. Domata still the starting NT

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:32 PM
Appeared to be only four roster spots for running backs and they insist on a fullback, so one of Henderson/Lindsay had to go. I think they made the right decision.

People are angry that Booker got to stay over Henderson, but that was always likely the way this team thinks.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 01:33 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago

Broncos did cut WR DeAndrew White, per source. A late pickup who had a 24-yard reception in preseason game vs. Washington. #9sports

wayninja
09-01-2018, 01:33 PM
Appeared to be only four roster spots for running backs and they insist on a fullback, so one of Henderson/Lindsay had to go. I think they made the right decision.

Between Henderson and Lindsay, yes, right call. But there's another back on the team that probably shouldn't be.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 01:34 PM
Kyle Peko, who we cut and bring back repeatedly every year. Domata still the starting NT

Ah, getting my pekos crossed

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:35 PM
Between Henderson and Lindsay, yes, right call. But there's another back on the team that probably shouldn't be.

Possibly, but they also think he’s the starter, and didn’t appear to be anywhere near the chopping block.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 01:36 PM
Possibly, but they also think he’s the starter, and didn’t appear to be anywhere near the chopping block.

I get that. But it's the same team that thought their way into a 5 win season last year. So, let me get my saltshaker.

Jsteve01
09-01-2018, 01:37 PM
I'm counting and I still see some cuts that need to be made. Based on reports, this looks like our current roster, with more change coming as other teams cut guys:

QB - Keenum, Kelly, Lynch
RB - Freeman, Booker, Lindsay
FB - Janovich
WR - Thomas, Sanders, Sutton, Hamilton, Patrick (haven't heard anything on DeAndrew White but I'm thinking he'll be cut)
TE - Heuerman, Butt, LaCosse (Fumagalli is likely going to be stashed on IR)
OL - Bolles, Veldheer, Leary, McGovern, Paradis, Turner, Garcia, Wilkinson, Jones (didn't see anything on Knappe; Schlottman either, but I think he got hurt the other day)

DL - Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Kerr, Peko, Harris
OLB - Miller, Chubb, Ray, Barrett
ILB - Marshall, Davis, Jewell, Johnson, Jones, Bierrria
CB - Harris, Roby, Brock, Jones, Yiadom
S - Simmons, Stewart, Parks, Cravens, Thomas

K/P/LS - McManus, King, Kreiter

6 ILB in todays league is also a joke. Jano makes sense to stay given this offense, but id much rather have more DL depth than 6 ILB. The numbers just dont make sense there. You knew theyd keep 5 ater they signed Johnson but 6? We have 5 corners, 6 DL and 4 OLB and 6 ILB. Silly roster management in my book

MOtorboat
09-01-2018, 01:40 PM
6 ILB in todays league is also a joke. Jano makes sense to stay given this offense, but id much rather have more DL depth than 6 ILB. The numbers just dont make sense there. You knew theyd keep 5 ater they signed Johnson but 6? We have 5 corners, 6 DL and 4 OLB and 6 ILB. Silly roster management in my book

Apparently Jones is listed at ILB, but is really just a special teams specialist.

Nomad
09-01-2018, 01:44 PM
Kyle Peko, who we cut and bring back repeatedly every year. Domata still the starting NT

I was the same as ninja, and thought it was the NT.

Magnificent Seven
09-01-2018, 01:52 PM
Broncos cut Isaiah McKenzie!


A trio of surprising names just hit the waiver wire.

To move toward finalizing their 53-man regular season roster, ahead of Saturday's 4 p.m. ET deadline, the Denver Broncos released wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie, tight end Austin Traylor and defensive lineman Clinton McDonald.

McKenzie is the fourth member of the team's 2017 draft class to be jettisoned, joining WR Carlos Henderson, running back De'Angelo Henderson and cornerback Brendan Langley. He's also the seventh WR to earn his walking papers, along with River Cracraft, Carlos Henderson, Mark Chapman, Bryce Bobo, Jordan Leslie and John Diarse.

https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/Report-Broncos-cut-Isaiah-McKenzie-Austin-Traylor-Clinton-McDonald-121271070/

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 02:00 PM
Not too surprising, but this one still stings a little:

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1035917707294605312

Hate this one... He's going to go somewhere else and ball out.

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 02:01 PM
Totally worth it, right?

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1035922699263066113

If we lose holland and keep Paxton....people are going to riot.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 02:03 PM
Broncos cut Isaiah McKenzie!



https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/Report-Broncos-cut-Isaiah-McKenzie-Austin-Traylor-Clinton-McDonald-121271070/

Yeah, apparently you need to be able to hold onto the ball if you want to make the team.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 02:03 PM
Patrick Smyth
‏Verified account @psmyth12
10m10 minutes ago

Broncos GM John Elway & HC Vance Joseph will meet the media today at approximately 6 p.m. MT at UCHealth Training Center to discuss the team's roster transactions.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 02:04 PM
If we lose holland and keep Paxton....people are going to riot.

Well, it's already happening so riot away

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 02:09 PM
Well, it's already happening so riot away

Yea saw that. I hadn't caught up on the thread when I posted it....Stupid...real freaking stupid.

Magnificent Seven
09-01-2018, 02:15 PM
Yeah, apparently you need to be able to hold onto the ball if you want to make the team.

Indeed. Ball security is the MOST important aspect of the game. Ball security is one of keys to move the ball in the red zone.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 02:17 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
7m7 minutes ago

The Broncos did waive undrafted C-G Austin Schlottmann, who got some serious 2nd-team reps at one point in training camp and played plenty in preseason. #9sports

Ziggy
09-01-2018, 02:19 PM
Patrick Smyth
‏Verified account @psmyth12
10m10 minutes ago

Broncos GM John Elway & HC Vance Joseph will meet the media today at approximately 6 p.m. MT at UCHealth Training Center to discuss the team's roster transactions.

I wonder why Joseph is meeting the media with Elway. It ought to be Elway and Kubes. Not many here really believe that Joseph had a big say in who got cut and who didn't.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 02:22 PM
I think people just assumed VJ got cut and they want to dispel that notion.

Freyaka
09-01-2018, 02:29 PM
I think people just assumed VJ got cut and they want to dispel that notion.

If only...someday this nightmare will end.

I will say though, there is a lot of talk that the draft picks this season were VJ's picks. IF there is any truth to it, he's maybe got a solid future as a GM or scout if this whole coaching thing doesn't pan out.

LawDog
09-01-2018, 02:31 PM
Two games a year the OL doesn’t have to worry about Khalil Mack.

wayninja
09-01-2018, 02:37 PM
If only...someday this nightmare will end.

I will say though, there is a lot of talk that the draft picks this season were VJ's picks. IF there is any truth to it, he's maybe got a solid future as a GM or scout if this whole coaching thing doesn't pan out.

If nothing else, the league can always use another middling defensive coordinator.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/1035971728286072832?s=21

G_Money
09-01-2018, 03:05 PM
Indeed. Ball security is the MOST important aspect of the game. Ball security is one of keys to move the ball in the red zone.

So why is Booker still here?

G_Money
09-01-2018, 03:15 PM
@MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago
Broncos have placed rookie TE Troy Fumagalli on IR. #9sports

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Wouldn't be a white Broncos TE if he wasn't spending time on IR.

Northman
09-01-2018, 03:18 PM
Just saw the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 03:22 PM
Just saw the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron.

They're doing work today!

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 03:24 PM
@MikeKlis
2m2 minutes ago
Broncos have placed rookie TE Troy Fumagalli on IR. #9sports

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Wouldn't be a white Broncos TE if he wasn't spending time on IR.

This was the obvious move for him. Our trend does continue though.

Tned
09-01-2018, 03:45 PM
I was the same as ninja, and thought it was the NT.

They are both NT's Kyle the young one, Domata they veteran that played very well last year.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 04:04 PM
https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/1035995481845858304?s=21

HORSEPOWER 56
09-01-2018, 04:58 PM
So, how many of these guys are PS likely? Henderson, Langley, maybe even McKenzie. If nobody grabs them, they are still PS eligible.

pnbronco
09-01-2018, 05:13 PM
If only...someday this nightmare will end.

I will say though, there is a lot of talk that the draft picks this season were VJ's picks. IF there is any truth to it, he's maybe got a solid future as a GM or scout if this whole coaching thing doesn't pan out.

Nope these were Kubes picks, they gave him a lot more power in the name of scouting.

Hawgdriver
09-01-2018, 05:18 PM
For me the big head scratcher is Holland. Quality edge players don't fall from trees. Is he not that good? What I saw looked legit, but maybe someone else has better insight.

Not happy about keeping 5/6 ILB depending on what you call Jones. Feels like one of Jones/Bierra/Johnson should be DeAngelo Henderson or Holland. Let's hope Booker and Freeman stay healthy, especially Freeman.

Guess you have to make some tough decisions with your 52 man roster.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 05:49 PM
Keeping Booker over Henderson, six ILB and Lynch are the biggest issues. Otherwise not bad. Wish we could have kept Holland and Henderson obviously

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 05:50 PM
So, how many of these guys are PS likely? Henderson, Langley, maybe even McKenzie. If nobody grabs them, they are still PS eligible.

Yeah except for D. Henderson, a lot of the young guys will probably be back on the PS as of tomorrow

HORSEPOWER 56
09-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Yeah except for D. Henderson, a lot of the young guys will probably be back on the PS as of tomorrow

Henderson is a possible, but I don’t think there’s as much treasure in our trash as we the fans may think. Every team thinks their 3rd/4th RB is great.

GEM
09-01-2018, 06:36 PM
Henderson is better than Booker, that's the issue. Booker is good at pass pro, but terrible at running.

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 06:42 PM
https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/1036036025376825344?s=21

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 07:07 PM
Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
12m12 minutes ago

Elway, on keeping Lynch: “Every decision we make, we try to make the best decision right now. Sitting right now at QB with who knows our system … I thought at this point in time, that’s the best decision for us."


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
12m12 minutes ago

Elway: “Paxton continued to improve [in the preseason], but he is the third-string quarterback."


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
12m12 minutes ago

Elway on keeping Lynch: "That decision was made, looking at it, with Chad not having a lot of experience, we thought we had to go with three quarterbacks." #Broncos


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
12m12 minutes ago

Elway: “We had a lot of tough decisions. It’s a good thing to have. We had to let a lot of good football players go. Clinton [McDonald] was one of them.” Says only 5 DLs will suit up on game day.


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
12m12 minutes ago

Elway on keeping 6 ILBs, said special teams factored in "a lot."


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
12m12 minutes ago

Elway, on Alexander Johnson: “Is he better at this point in time than Zaire [Anderson], probably not,” but he felt they couldn’t get Johnson through waivers.


Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
11m11 minutes ago

#Broncos John Elway @1043TheFan on Jeff Holland "We thought that we had other football players ahead of him on the 53...everything was discussed."


Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
12m12 minutes ago

#Broncos John Elway @1043TheFan on Paxton Lynch "That's the key (development)...we've got to keep coaching him. Paxton needs to take it upon himself to improve. That's what he has to do."

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 07:07 PM
Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
10m10 minutes ago

#Broncos John Elway @1043TheFan on the waiver wire "We actually feel pretty good about where we are but we'll see about the waiver wire."


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
10m10 minutes ago

Elway said that the veteran QBs they were interested in “all want to wait” and see.


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
10m10 minutes ago

Elway mentions Adam Jones and Phillip Lindsay as returners. #Broncos


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
9m9 minutes ago

Elway: "I'm excited about our chances. i think we're in good shape getting started. Now we have to play." #Broncos


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
8m8 minutes ago

Elway: "We're excited about the 18 class. The 17 class, I'm not giving up on that either but obviously we had to let a few of them go today." #Broncos


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
7m7 minutes ago

Elway, on having 10 rookies, including 8 draft picks, on the 53: “Picking high in each round helps. I really hope that we’re not picking nearly that high again next year."


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
7m7 minutes ago

Elway on 10 rookies: "I don't get nervous about it. I get excited about the youth." #Broncos


Ryan O'Halloran
‏Verified account @ryanohalloran
7m7 minutes ago

Elway: "There are a lot of guys we're interested in keeping," re - practice squad. #Broncos

VonDoom
09-01-2018, 07:10 PM
Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
7m7 minutes ago

#Broncos Vance Joseph @1043TheFan on RB position"Booker's better days are ahead of him."


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
7m7 minutes ago

Vance Joseph on Isaiah McKenzie: "That was tough with Isaiah, because you can see the talent. In my opinion, he needs more time. But John mentioned, for a coach, I'm about now. ... We got better with Adam Jones."


Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
5m5 minutes ago

#Broncos Vance Joseph @1043TheFan "Young is not bad...especially at certain positions."


Cecil Lammey
‏Verified account @CecilLammey
6m6 minutes ago

#Broncos Vance Joseph @1043TheFan on Royce Freeman "I think Royce is a mature guy....I have no worries with our young guys."


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
5m5 minutes ago

Joseph: Dymonte Thomas “definitely earned his way” … he “had a great camp.” Also will be a core special-teamer, Joseph said.


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
4m4 minutes ago

Joseph: “Tough” decision between Matt LaCosse and Brian Parker. Said LaCosse has “the full package” for a No. 3 TE, can block, play special teams, catch the ball.


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
4m4 minutes ago

Vance Joseph: “I’ve been impressed with Paxton, how he’s handled his demotion. He’s been engaged. He’s worked … he needs more time, but we all watched him play Thursday … I think with more time, he’s going to be fine for us."


Andrew Mason
‏Verified account @MaseDenver
3m3 minutes ago

Joseph: @Broncos roster “is really deep."


Nicki Jhabvala
‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala
2m2 minutes ago

Vance Joseph said "the hope" is Jordan Taylor is able to come off PUP after six weeks. Recovering from two hip surgeries.

Hawgdriver
09-01-2018, 07:49 PM
Henderson is unquestionably an NFL running back if he doesn't fumble like he did to start his career. Not sure about his pass pro and intangibles, but that dude is great in space and between the tackles. Don't like the move!

But not that sore, either. The NFL has a number of RB3/4 dudes on practice squads and whatnot. If the injury bug hits the RB side of the roster, Williams would probably be an adequate replacement.

Softskull
09-01-2018, 08:04 PM
Holland passed the eye test for me. He may only be a rotational player now, but QBs and those that attack QBs are NFL gold.

Second tier running backs are dime a dozen. I like Henderson and think he outplayed Booker, but if I was the coach I too would have chosen the only vet rusher.

ShaneFalco
09-01-2018, 08:13 PM
says everything about elway to me.



traded tebow after one season.



Keeps Lynch for 4.

Northman
09-01-2018, 08:16 PM
Yea, but Paxton isnt the starter and there is no Manning available right now.

Hawgdriver
09-01-2018, 09:25 PM
Yeah except for D. Henderson, a lot of the young guys will probably be back on the PS as of tomorrow

If Henderson, C. Smith, Marshall, Leslie, Williams, #93 the Clemson D-lineman, and Holland make it to the PS, I'll be thrilled. UR would add Diarse, but I don't get the Brandon Marshall comparison yet.

Cugel
09-01-2018, 09:55 PM
At some point you go with the production. We'll see how many games it costs us, but other players want the guy who performs out there as much as fans do - and this coaching staff doesn't have a lot of wiggle room to be stubborn with petted favorites who don't immediately produce.

They don't exactly have Mike Shanahan's level of job security.

I was thinking exactly this. Imagine what it will look like against the Seahawks if they start Booker game 1:

Booker gets the ball on first and ten from the 25. They block it for 3.5 yards and that's what he gets.

On second and 6 he gets stuffed in the backfield after running into his own lineman and loses 2 yards.

Third and 9. And this offense isn't really designed to make a lot of 3rd and 9's. Nobody really does, but those 3rd and longs really depend on your QB making a big play like Aaron Rogers. And we don't have Aaron Rogers.

IF they do this repeatedly the offense will sputter and fail to score more than about 3 points. If that happens Vance Joseph will immediately be on the hot seat.

So, I expect them to move away from Booker pretty quickly once the season starts. They are infuriating in that they keep giving him more chances to fail while getting rid of DeAngelo Henderson who had a great pre-season and was the player of the 4th pre-season game. He's a perfect change of pace back for them. Now they don't have anybody on the roster like that.

I don't think he's eligible for the practice squad either, so he's gone.

That's just painfully stupid. Keeping Paxton is criminally stupid! What on earth do they think they will use him for? They know he will never start him unless they lose 2 QBs to injury and in that case, they will go out and sign a veteran to come in and start.

SO, he's officially totally useless. Not in the sense that he's just totally SUCK! but in the sense that they can't even have a situation where it would make sense to put him into a game. So, he will be of no actual use - even if Keenum and Kelly are hurt.

nevcraw
09-02-2018, 09:08 AM
says everything about elway to me.



traded tebow after one season.



Keeps Lynch for 4.

Says they liked keeping Lynch more than going with 2 QB’s and couldn’t get a better qb to sign as a FA. Comparing this to Tebow decision makes no sense.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 09:38 AM
says everything about elway to me.



traded tebow after one season.



Keeps Lynch for 4.

It tells us how awful Tebow was, doesn’t it?

UnderArmour
09-02-2018, 10:03 AM
There are quite a few that you listed i would take any day over Lynch. And its not even close, especially if we are talking about a 3rd stringer.

Hey. Cuts are final. Please post that list now. Thanks!

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 11:01 AM
Hey. Cuts are final. Please post that list now. Thanks!

I can’t speak for North, but some available QBs who are at least as good as Lynch include:

EJ Manuel
Tom Savage
Landry Jones
Matt Barkley

And maybe

Luke Falk
Connor Cook
Kevin Hogan

I haven’t watched those last few guys closely enough to know for sure. None of these names are particularly inspiring, but then again, neither is Lynch. I’m also not advocating for cutting him now for one of these guys - that ship sailed yesterday. Just saying that there are plenty of warm bodies for a number 3 QB if we had let him go

GEM
09-02-2018, 11:05 AM
Nah, if we weren't going to do it for the right reasons, stick with him to avoid the dead salary cap hit. None of those names are inspiring enough to eat that dead cap number. From what I've read, we'll be tight on money next off-season.

wayninja
09-02-2018, 11:13 AM
It tells us how awful Tebow was, doesn’t it?

Yeah. All except the record and the off the field stuff. Beyond those 2 things. Terrible.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 11:27 AM
Yeah. All except the record and the off the field stuff. Beyond those 2 things. Terrible.

He was a terrible quarterback. It’s why he wasn’t in the league for more than four years. Don’t know what else to tell you.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 11:28 AM
Safety Trey Marshall back to our practice squad

UnderArmour
09-02-2018, 11:31 AM
I can’t speak for North, but some available QBs who are at least as good as Lynch include:

EJ Manuel
Tom Savage
Landry Jones
Matt Barkley

And maybe

Luke Falk
Connor Cook
Kevin Hogan

I haven’t watched those last few guys closely enough to know for sure. None of these names are particularly inspiring, but then again, neither is Lynch. I’m also not advocating for cutting him now for one of these guys - that ship sailed yesterday. Just saying that there are plenty of warm bodies for a number 3 QB if we had let him go

Connor Cook started his career off in Musgrave's offense, so he actually would fit the bill of someone that could come right in. Problem with him is, he never moved past 3rd on the depth chart in Oakland, despite all of his talent. In that regard, he is truly no matter than Lynch.

I liked how EJ looked last year against us, but it is pretty telling that he has now flamed out with two NFL teams. I've always like Barkley too, but it is also pretty telling that he has flamed out with all of these different teams. Landry Jones is probably the best of the group, with experience playing in "big-time" games.

Savage does not belong on an NFL roster, and flamed out of Saints camp. Hogan is a worse version of Lynch. Falk is nobody.

Dumping Paxton for Landry Jones would make the most sense, but even that roster move still doesn't seem like a no-brainer type move. In spite of all of Paxton's struggles, there is still nobody on the market that makes me go "Wow, Elway needs to dump him and pick up __________ immediately!!!" so it just seems like if the Broncos are sticking with their traditional number of 3 quarterbacks, Paxton just makes sense as the guy.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 11:35 AM
Connor Cook started his career off in Musgrave's offense, so he actually would fit the bill of someone that could come right in. Problem with him is, he never moved past 3rd on the depth chart in Oakland, despite all of his talent. In that regard, he is truly no matter than Lynch.

I liked how EJ looked last year against us, but it is pretty telling that he has now flamed out with two NFL teams. I've always like Barkley too, but it is also pretty telling that he has flamed out with all of these different teams. Landry Jones is probably the best of the group, with experience playing in "big-time" games.

Savage does not belong on an NFL roster, and flamed out of Saints camp. Hogan is a worse version of Lynch. Falk is nobody.

Dumping Paxton for Landry Jones would make the most sense, but even that roster move still doesn't seem like a no-brainer type move. In spite of all of Paxton's struggles, there is still nobody on the market that makes me go "Wow, Elway needs to dump him and pick up __________ immediately!!!" so it just seems like if the Broncos are sticking with their traditional number of 3 quarterbacks, Paxton just makes sense as the guy.

I’d take Jones, myself, if he were willing to sign.

BeefStew25
09-02-2018, 11:44 AM
He was a terrible quarterback. It’s why he wasn’t in the league for more than four years. Don’t know what else to tell you.

And still beat the Steelers.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 11:48 AM
Broncos claimed QB Kevin Hogan on waivers - could be Lynch’s replacement

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 11:49 AM
Also, TE Brian Parker back to the practice squad

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 11:55 AM
Word on Twitter is that no Broncos were claimed on waivers, meaning we could potentially bring back Holland and Henderson to the PS if they want to come back

HORSEPOWER 56
09-02-2018, 12:01 PM
Broncos claimed QB Kevin Hogan on waivers - could be Lynch’s replacement

Interesting... be ready Shane, there goes Swag!

atwater27
09-02-2018, 12:05 PM
It tells us how awful Tebow was, doesn’t it?

I’d take Tebow over Lynch and so would you.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 12:07 PM
I’d take Tebow over Lynch and so would you.

I probably would not.

GEM
09-02-2018, 12:09 PM
Interesting... be ready Shane, there goes Swag!

Not only Shane. I will be left shaking my head, but after the last couple seasons, not much of a change. I'd it's questionable or puzzling, the Broncos will do it.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 12:20 PM
Austin Schlottmann to the PS.

Also, De’Angelo Henderson signed with the Jets practice squad

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 12:24 PM
Isaiah McKenzie back to our PS

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 12:33 PM
Broncos claimed QB Kevin Hogan on waivers - could be Lynch’s replacement

It better not be Kelly’s.

My guess is they’re trying to trade Paxton to recoup some value, opposed to outright cutting him.

GEM
09-02-2018, 12:33 PM
Austin Schlottmann to the PS.

Also, De’Angelo Henderson signed with the Jets practice squad

:mad:

UnderArmour
09-02-2018, 12:34 PM
Broncos claimed QB Kevin Hogan on waivers - could be Lynch’s replacement

And... That's the end of Lynch. Elway is pretty familiar with Stanford football, and must've liked what he saw on tape as far as the fit for our offense. Hogan should have a much easier time here than in Cleveland (zero offense weapons), or in Washington where Colt McCoy is still a much savvier pocket passer and #2 QB. He'll be afforded some time to develop, and certainly has more toughness than Paxton ever did.

Had the chance to go back and look at some of his throws while he was with Cleveland. He certainly seemed to have more success taking shots than Lynch did. Tougher runner than Lynch is. I can get on board with this.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 12:35 PM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1036305310896541696?s=21

nevcraw
09-02-2018, 12:37 PM
All the drama queens can start bitching about something else now... Lynch gone and none of the can’t get Rid of 4/5th string players didn’t get claimed. What will will y’all think of next to gripe about.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 12:38 PM
Kyle Peko turns up on the PS again.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 12:39 PM
Hogan is there to run scout team. Kelly is there to learn to play QB. I can get behind that plan.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 12:54 PM
Hogan is there to run scout team. Kelly is there to learn to play QB. I can get behind that plan.

Indeed, I like it.

wayninja
09-02-2018, 12:57 PM
He was a terrible quarterback. It’s why he wasn’t in the league for more than four years. Don’t know what else to tell you.

He was a terrible quarterback that left with a winning record + playoff win and was fantastic off the field despite never having been trusted with a full season, limiting the amount of evaluation one could reasonably do for him despite his success. Not sure what else to tell you.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 01:03 PM
He was a terrible quarterback that left with a winning record + playoff win and was fantastic off the field despite never having been trusted with a full season, limiting the amount of evaluation one could reasonably do for him despite his success. Not sure what else to tell you.

He was a terrible quarterback who couldn’t operate a basic NFL offense and probably couldn’t help a team by running scout team and that’s why the Broncos, Jets and Patriots cut him loose, and why no one else signed him. There was plenty of time to evaluate him, that is absolute nonsense.

wayninja
09-02-2018, 01:06 PM
He was a terrible quarterback who couldn’t operate a basic NFL offense and probably couldn’t help a team by running scout team and that’s why the Broncos, Jets and Patriots cut him loose, and why no one else signed him. There was plenty of time to evaluate him, that is absolute nonsense.

I disagree as to why he was cut by those teams. I can't think of another QB that "can't run an offense" that was traded and not given another starting shot in the NFL after a postseason run. But I don't really want to look. We are always going to disagree here, MO, so I'm fine leaving it at that.

UnderArmour
09-02-2018, 01:08 PM
Langley and Cracraft are on the practice squad.
https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/1036314359893356544

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:09 PM
Threads in 2018 still being derailed by Tebow debates?

Anyway, Langley and Cracraft back to the PS

UnderArmour
09-02-2018, 01:18 PM
Threads in 2018 still being derailed by Tebow debates?

Anyway, Langley and Cracraft back to the PS

I mean, pretty much everyone can accept that Tebow sucked as a pocket passer. Guy was lightning in a bottle when it came 4th quarter and suddenly learned how to throw an accurate football, but with the need for NFL teams to evaluate pass catchers in practice and execute an offense, there simply is no justification for keeping a guy like Tebow on a roster.

The Jets tried to use him as a utility player, because that's essentially what the Broncos offense did, but short of converting his position to RB, FB, or TE, there was no way Tebow was going to stick in this league. I loved Tebow as a Bronco, but if he had stuck on the Broncos roster, there was no way he could be trusted to execute the same offensive scheme that Manning ahead of him was running. Osweiller proved in 2015 that he was a more than capable backup for Manning, but if there was a future where the Broncos stuck with Tebow as backup instead, there is absolutely no way that the offensive scheme could have remained the same. The risk of Tebow getting hurt while trucking people is simply not a risk than an NFL front office could take as a long-term, or even short-term (3-4 game) plan.

I think most everyone can respect that Tebow was a good player on the Broncos roster. He was a heck of a runner, and he challenged defenders with his feet. He was special in the 4th quarter, and responded as well as any player I have ever seen to adversity. But, he simply wasn't a quarterback.

Northman
09-02-2018, 01:30 PM
I mean, pretty much everyone can accept that Tebow sucked as a pocket passer. Guy was lightning in a bottle when it came 4th quarter and suddenly learned how to throw an accurate football, but with the need for NFL teams to evaluate pass catchers in practice and execute an offense, there simply is no justification for keeping a guy like Tebow on a roster.

The Jets tried to use him as a utility player, because that's essentially what the Broncos offense did, but short of converting his position to RB, FB, or TE, there was no way Tebow was going to stick in this league. I loved Tebow as a Bronco, but if he had stuck on the Broncos roster, there was no way he could be trusted to execute the same offensive scheme that Manning ahead of him was running. Osweiller proved in 2015 that he was a more than capable backup for Manning, but if there was a future where the Broncos stuck with Tebow as backup instead, there is absolutely no way that the offensive scheme could have remained the same. The risk of Tebow getting hurt while trucking people is simply not a risk than an NFL front office could take as a long-term, or even short-term (3-4 game) plan.

I think most everyone can respect that Tebow was a good player on the Broncos roster. He was a heck of a runner, and he challenged defenders with his feet. He was special in the 4th quarter, and responded as well as any player I have ever seen to adversity. But, he simply wasn't a quarterback.

He was a very good athlete for sure. QB, not so much.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:35 PM
David Williams to the PS

pnbronco
09-02-2018, 01:37 PM
David Williams to the PS

Would really have loved to have kept Henderson, but Williams has some promise and will get the time he needs to develop.

Freyaka
09-02-2018, 01:38 PM
I can’t speak for North, but some available QBs who are at least as good as Lynch include:

EJ Manuel
Tom Savage
Landry Jones
Matt Barkley

And maybe

Luke Falk
Connor Cook
Kevin Hogan

I haven’t watched those last few guys closely enough to know for sure. None of these names are particularly inspiring, but then again, neither is Lynch. I’m also not advocating for cutting him now for one of these guys - that ship sailed yesterday. Just saying that there are plenty of warm bodies for a number 3 QB if we had let him go

Good call!

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:38 PM
Seems like Carlos Henderson to the PS. Not official yet but his Instagram seems to suggest it

pnbronco
09-02-2018, 01:38 PM
Fingers crossed for Holland...he wasn't picked off waivers by anyone else yet, right?

Freyaka
09-02-2018, 01:40 PM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1036305310896541696?s=21

12929

pnbronco
09-02-2018, 01:40 PM
Seems like Carlos Henderson to the PS. Not official yet but his Instagram seems to suggest it

How good is he? He hasn't seem to get it together and there are a couple of other guys I wish could have come back on PS.

HORSEPOWER 56
09-02-2018, 01:46 PM
I’d like to see Holland back and maybe Traylor. I’m actually surprised we cut Kouandjio over Billy Turner. Thought for sure he’d make the roster as the swing tackle after we cut Watson.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:47 PM
How good is he? He hasn't seem to get it together and there are a couple of other guys I wish could have come back on PS.

He’s got talent. Hopefully he has his head on right and he works hard on the PS

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:47 PM
Looks like only one spot left - hopefully Holland

Northman
09-02-2018, 01:48 PM
Dont know if it was mentioned yet but DeAngelo went to the Jets. Guess he felt a bit slighted and refused to go to Denver's PS.

HORSEPOWER 56
09-02-2018, 01:49 PM
Looks like only one spot left - hopefully Holland

Should’ve just cut Lynch and signed Holland to the active roster yesterday.

GEM
09-02-2018, 01:50 PM
All the drama queens can start bitching about something else now... Lynch gone and none of the can’t get Rid of 4/5th string players didn’t get claimed. What will will y’all think of next to gripe about.

Whatever the **** we want since is a discussion/message board. ;)

HORSEPOWER 56
09-02-2018, 01:51 PM
Dont know if it was mentioned yet but DeAngelo went to the Jets. Guess he felt a bit slighted and refused to go to Denver's PS.

Well, everyone wanted Lindsay and they’re essentially the same dude... personally if it was either, or I’d have taken Henderson and cut Lindsay.

GEM
09-02-2018, 01:52 PM
Dont know if it was mentioned yet but DeAngelo went to the Jets. Guess he felt a bit slighted and refused to go to Denver's PS.

The same entitled attitude that caused the vets to take issue with that draft class.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 01:52 PM
Dont know if it was mentioned yet but DeAngelo went to the Jets. Guess he felt a bit slighted and refused to go to Denver's PS.

Probably lost in the Tebow stuff but I posted it. And yes, the danger of trying to bring guys back is that they might like some other PS better

GEM
09-02-2018, 01:53 PM
Probably lost in the Tebow stuff but I posted it. And yes, the danger of trying to bring guys back is that they might like some other PS better

That could bee true if it wasn't the jets . :laugh: I kid! :D

pnbronco
09-02-2018, 01:55 PM
He’s got talent. Hopefully he has his head on right and he works hard on the PS

OK but we have Sutton and Hamilton now and I would think that Holland and Traylor should be rewarded for going through all the work.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 02:20 PM
Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
3m3 minutes ago

OLB Jeff Holland, DL DeShawn Williams signed to Broncos practice squad. #9sports


Mike Klis
‏Verified account @MikeKlis
1m1 minute ago

Broncos signed former Browns OL Avery Gennesy to practice squad. That's 11 with Carlos Henderson on suspended list. #9sports

--------------

So first of all ... yes! Holland! Second, one of these spots is wrong - maybe McKenzie isn't actually back? He's the only one Klis didn't mention in any of his Tweets.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 02:43 PM
And now per Klis, Cravens to IR and McKenzie back to the active roster. Cravens can come back but will miss at least eight weeks with surgery

Slick
09-02-2018, 02:44 PM
And now per Klis, Cravens to IR and McKenzie back to the active roster. Cravens can come back but will miss at least eight weeks with surgery

Sua Cravens is hurt again after playing one half of pre season football? Good grief.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 02:47 PM
How good is he? He hasn't seem to get it together and there are a couple of other guys I wish could have come back on PS.

He’s an eletric athlete; big and fast. I don’t mind them using a roster spot on him. He can be special if doesn’t get destroyed by emotional intelligence issues.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 02:50 PM
It would seem DeAngelo was viewed with orange colored glasses since he passed waivers. I thought Linsey looked more explosive.

pnbronco
09-02-2018, 02:51 PM
Sua Cravens is hurt again after playing one half of pre season football? Good grief.

I'm not sure if he's hurt again. I think it's the same thing he's been having the whole time but didn't want to have surgery until he showed that he is worth keeping.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 02:53 PM
I'm not sure if he's hurt again. I think it's the same thing he's been having the whole time but didn't want to have surgery until he showed that he is worth keeping.

His biggest issue has been head trauma. We may never see this guy make an impact.

Slick
09-02-2018, 03:01 PM
I'm not sure if he's hurt again. I think it's the same thing he's been having the whole time but didn't want to have surgery until he showed that he is worth keeping.

I don't know if he is worth keeping if he can't get healthy. Wasn't that the reason Washington parted ways?

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 03:10 PM
Klis says his knee flared up again over the weekend and he’s having surgery. Same knee he had surgery on with Washington last year

Nomad
09-02-2018, 03:11 PM
I don't know if he is worth keeping if he can't get healthy. Wasn't that the reason Washington parted ways?

I agree. Damaged goods.

Slick
09-02-2018, 03:17 PM
I agree. Damaged goods.

I guess we'll find out next year. If he's down for 8 weeks with knee surgery I doubt he plays this year at all!.

Softskull
09-02-2018, 03:24 PM
Glad to see McKenzie back on the 53.
He reminds me of a couple of great Bronco returners, Upchurch and Milburn. Both of which also coughed up the ball in bunches their first few years.
It a tough position that often requires a few years of seasoning.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 03:26 PM
Glad to see McKenzie back on the 53.
He reminds me of a couple of great Bronco returners, Upchurch and Milburn. Both of which also coughed up the ball in bunches their first few years.
It a tough position that often requires a few years of seasoning.
53?

I thought he was on the practice squad

Nomad
09-02-2018, 03:28 PM
I guess we'll find out next year. If he's down for 8 weeks with knee surgery I doubt he plays this year at all!.

I hope the Broncos got him for cheap.

Softskull
09-02-2018, 03:28 PM
53?

I thought he was on the practice squad

He took Craven's roster spot - from the PS.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
09-02-2018, 03:29 PM
He took Craven's roster spot - from the PS.

Gotcha.

atwater27
09-02-2018, 03:30 PM
Man that really sucks. I was excited about Sua Cravens.

HORSEPOWER 56
09-02-2018, 04:26 PM
So, we’re back to square one without a Safety or LB who can cover a TE... great. I guess it will be sweet to watch McKenzie fumble away punts to the Queefs so we can then watch Kelce catch more TD passes against us... :tsk:

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 04:27 PM
He took Craven's roster spot - from the PS.

Technically, I don't think he was ever on the PS. He put out an Instagram saying something like, "I'm back Broncos Country", which most people thought meant the PS since there were no open roster spots. Klis never listed him on his running PS list but said he was still "hanging around." Now we know why.

As for Cravens, we didn't put him on IR yesterday because if we had, he wouldn't be eligible to return so we had to wait until after the 53 man was set (we did this with Ray last year, but we all knew that one was coming unlike this situation).

Also, we're likely to bring back Shamarko Thomas after week one (he's a vested veteran, so if he was on our roster week one, we would owe the balance of his salary if he was later let go, which doesn't apply if we sign him in week two). That might mean McKenzie is gone again, or at least off the active roster and we could bring him back to the PS for real this time.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 04:28 PM
So, we’re back to square one without a Safety or LB who can cover a TE... great. I guess it will be sweet to watch McKenzie fumble away punts to the Queefs so we can then watch Kelce catch more TD passes against us... :tsk:

If they run McKenzie out there with Lindsay and Jones on this team...man...

LawDog
09-02-2018, 04:34 PM
I guess we'll find out next year. If he's down for 8 weeks with knee surgery I doubt he plays this year at all!.

If it’s only 8 weeks I think it is only to get it scoped, not an actual slice and repair type surgery. Most arthroscopic procedures are to clear out floaters or a menisectomy after which there is no danger of harming anything structurally, just swelling/inflammation/pain management. Only exception is if they are suturing a meniscus tear, but that would take much longer the 8 weeks to heal. All of which is a long way of saying that I think it is pretty likely that he will play this year.

Slick
09-02-2018, 04:47 PM
If it’s only 8 weeks I think it is only to get it scoped, not an actual slice and repair type surgery. Most arthroscopic procedures are to clear out floaters or a menisectomy after which there is no danger of harming anything structurally, just swelling/inflammation/pain management. Only exception is if they are suturing a meniscus tear, but that would take much longer the 8 weeks to heal. All of which is a long way of saying that I think it is pretty likely that he will play this year.

Do you think they'll use a spot on the 53 man roster on a guy who won't play for 8 weeks?

Maybe I'm not understanding how all that works with PUP and IR correctly.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 04:49 PM
Do you think they'll use a spot on the 53 man roster on a guy who won't play for 8 weeks?

Maybe I'm not understanding how all that works with PUP and IR correctly.

Cravens won't take up a roster spot on the IR. But, if they bring him back in Week 8, they'll have to drop someone.

Nomad
09-02-2018, 04:52 PM
Cravens won't take up a roster spot on the IR. But, if they bring him back in Week 8, they'll have to drop someone.

I have nothing against him, but would rather see him on the field. I get players get injured, but did the Broncos get him knowing he's a risk? I really didn't pay attention when the Broncos picked him up. I heard he's pretty good when playing.

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 04:55 PM
I have nothing against him, but would rather see him on the field. I get players get injured, but did the Broncos get him knowing he's a risk? I really didn't pay attention when the Broncos picked him up. I heard he's pretty good when playing.

He had some issues in Washington. There were both concussion and knee issues, if memory recalls. They thought he was ready to play, and he said he wasn't.

Slick
09-02-2018, 05:32 PM
Cravens won't take up a roster spot on the IR. But, if they bring him back in Week 8, they'll have to drop someone.

I guess for some reason I was thinking if he was on IR longer than 6 weeks he couldn't come back until next season.

VonDoom
09-02-2018, 05:44 PM
Holland and Genessy not listed on the official list from the team. Hopefully that report is accurate

Edit: Nicki Jhabvala says these signings should be announced tomorrow

MOtorboat
09-02-2018, 05:54 PM
I guess for some reason I was thinking if he was on IR longer than 6 weeks he couldn't come back until next season.

PUP is the first 6 weeks of the season, and then it changes to IR and, I think, you can't pull those players to the active roster until the following season. They can designate multiple players to IR, but I think they can only bring 1 or 2 players off IR during the season.