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WARHORSE
05-07-2018, 02:44 PM
IGNORE the write up on the Shane Ray but go down to the podcast midway down the article and check it out. Great stuff on Chubb and Sutton.




https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/Are-the-Denver-Broncos-making-the-right-decision-with-Shane-Rays-fifth-year-option--117918013

spikerman
05-07-2018, 06:29 PM
I assumed Ray was gone as soon as the pick was announced. Given some of his public hints of dissatisfaction after the draft I would not be surprised if he’s gone before the start of camp.

WARHORSE
05-07-2018, 11:19 PM
I assumed Ray was gone as soon as the pick was announced. Given some of his public hints of dissatisfaction after the draft I would not be surprised if he’s gone before the start of camp..


Its the podcast in the article thats great

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2018, 11:56 PM
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Its the podcast in the article thats great

Cliff notes?

WARHORSE
05-08-2018, 08:26 AM
Cliff notes?



Coach Larry Browns take on Sutton, whom Sutton played basketball for at SMU. June Jones telling Brown he could take 5 of his football players and beat any 5 of his basketball players. Browns take on why Denver got an amazing player and why he can talk all day about Courtland Sutton. His amazing 3 cone at his size.

The history of the Chubb family and his upbringing. The Chubb family heritage as a black family, their historical homage to the past as a family. Bradley Chubb growing up, along with his brothers and the expectations placed on him and his brothers. How the Chubb family was really happy he made it past the Browns to Denver. The variety of fronts he allows Denver to use, etc

They talk about Chubb most of the time......then its Courtland starting right about minute 40.

Great listen.

Rick
05-08-2018, 08:41 AM
I like what they said about Josh Allen and Paxton Lynch, saying Allen isn't a first round talent, that Allen has tools but just isn't there, just like a player we already have...Paxton Lynch.

Cugel
05-08-2018, 01:43 PM
I like what they said about Josh Allen and Paxton Lynch, saying Allen isn't a first round talent, that Allen has tools but just isn't there, just like a player we already have...Paxton Lynch.

Basically, this is what everybody has been saying all off-season, despite the endless furor "the Broncos HAVE to draft a QB!!!!"

About 10 teams had a chance to draft Josh Rosen for instance, not just the 8 teams that passed on him (Browns twice). The Dolphins and Ravens for instance could have moved up to #10 to get Rosen when he fell there, not just the Cardinals.

The Steelers also took Mason Rudolph in the 3rd round and the Giants took Lauletta in the 4th and the Titans took Luke Falk in the 6th. None of those teams has a totally stable QB situation. Roethlisberger has talked of retirement in the next 2 seasons, Eli Manning is running on fumes and Mariota was horrible last season, with a 79 passer rating, 13 TDs and 15 INTs. He was Peyton 2015 bad.

Any of those teams could justify taking a new franchise QB - IF they thought one was available. They didn't make a move.

Tells you what you need to know about how NFL Gms really viewed this draft class.

Rick
05-08-2018, 01:48 PM
I hope Allen works out for the Bills, I have a soft spot for them being that I lived in the area until I was 12 and my family back there are avid Bills fans.

I just feel Allen was the most overrated QB in the draft. Cannon arm does you no good if you can't complete a pass.

So glad the Broncos went Chubb over Allen.

Poet
05-08-2018, 02:23 PM
Hope Allen no good.

Simple Jaded
05-08-2018, 10:18 PM
I like how Cugel speaks for NFL GM’s now, every GM thinks these QB’s are buzz because he says so.

BeefStew25
05-08-2018, 10:41 PM
Will they do a piece on Josey Jewell and his white family?

TXBRONC
05-09-2018, 06:47 AM
Will they do a piece on Josey Jewell and his white family?

Can't, that would be caving to white privilege.

WARHORSE
05-10-2018, 01:43 AM
Will they do a piece on Josey Jewell and his white family?


Josey is named after Josey Wales.....a white character in the movie The Outlaw Josey Wales. Historic western. Jewell means "A jew who does well".....jew...well.

However, the historical jews weren't white. Dey waz culud. No one knows....


Long history behind that name......you should read about it! heh heh


So much left for you to learn Beef...isnt it exciting??

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-10-2018, 09:26 AM
Josey is named after Josey Wales.....a white character in the movie The Outlaw Josey Wales. Historic western. Jewell means "A jew who does well".....jew...well.

However, the historical jews weren't white. Dey waz culud. No one knows....


Long history behind that name......you should read about it! heh heh


So much left for you to learn Beef...isnt it exciting??

The Jews were of Armenian decent, I believe.

BeefStew25
05-10-2018, 11:04 AM
I want a write up about a white man in the NFL. Then a write up about a black punter breaking through all punting barriers. While he dances.

Simple Jaded
05-10-2018, 08:48 PM
Aww, the butthurt whiteboys are having a pity party, why wasn’t I invited?

WARHORSE
05-10-2018, 09:18 PM
Aww, the butthurt whiteboys are having a pity party, why wasn’t I invited?

Who are the butthurt whiteboys?

Simple Jaded
05-10-2018, 10:13 PM
Who are the butthurt whiteboys?

All of us, where’s my party hat?

BeefStew25
05-10-2018, 10:18 PM
As a Samoan, playing in the nfl is a challenge.

Simple Jaded
05-10-2018, 10:19 PM
Btw, Outlaw Josey Wales is literally the best movie ever.

“Dyin ain’t much of a livin, boy”

zLRlY46ttfE

Ok, now I really hate him.

Simple Jaded
05-10-2018, 10:20 PM
As a Samoan, playing in the nfl is a challenge.

They need to put a team in Samoa, **** UK.

******* Germany. :fart:

Simple Jaded
05-10-2018, 10:22 PM
I was gonna name my next dog Josey. Was!

BeefStew25
05-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Btw, Outlaw Josey Wales is literally the best movie ever.

“Dyin ain’t much of a livin, boy”

zLRlY46ttfE

Ok, now I really hate him.

Excellent movie.

Dirty Harry is amazing.

Cugel
05-11-2018, 12:13 AM
I like how Cugel speaks for NFL GM’s now, every GM thinks these QB’s are buzz because he says so.


NFL GMs can be judged by their actions. That was the point.

I don't have to "speak for them" because I have some insight into these QBs.

I have zero insight into these QBs. I don't even have an opinion about which of them (if any) will be any good.

They had a chance to draft a top rated QB and didn't even though their teams needed QBs - which we know because they later drafted QBs.

TXBRONC
05-11-2018, 06:49 AM
Aww, the butthurt whiteboys are having a pity party, why wasn’t I invited?

I guess there's just something about you that chaps the asses butt hurt whiteboys. :whoknows:

WARHORSE
05-11-2018, 12:39 PM
Great story on Sutton. Loved it.

Krugan
05-12-2018, 01:17 PM
Not sure why comments about any color is needed, sure would be nice if that shit just stopped, its getting ******* old, honestly.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-12-2018, 02:03 PM
Not sure why comments about any color is needed, sure would be nice if that shit just stopped, its getting ******* old, honestly.

Agreed

WARHORSE
05-12-2018, 02:06 PM
Beefs fault. :listen:

Simple Jaded
05-12-2018, 10:40 PM
Not sure why comments about any color is needed, sure would be nice if that shit just stopped, its getting ******* old, honestly.

White guilt.

Poet
05-14-2018, 04:13 PM
You guys still like Chubb?

Rick
05-14-2018, 04:21 PM
Not sure why comments about any color is needed, sure would be nice if that shit just stopped, its getting ******* old, honestly.

It's the maturity of this place. Gets distracting sometimes, like being around a bunch of middle school kids.

BeefStew25
05-14-2018, 04:28 PM
Not sure why comments about any color is needed, sure would be nice if that shit just stopped, its getting ******* old, honestly.

As an olive skinned former right defensive end, your comments trouble me.

BeefStew25
05-14-2018, 04:28 PM
It's the maturity of this place. Gets distracting sometimes, like being around a bunch of middle school kids.

Tell us all about football rick.

Rick
05-14-2018, 04:41 PM
Tell us all about football rick.

Will people be able to handle it if I do or do I need to crack an immature joke about a last name or skin color when I do?

Not sure if people can handle serious discussion...

Poet
05-14-2018, 04:41 PM
To be fair, I don't think Jaded is joking.

TXBRONC
05-14-2018, 04:43 PM
You guys still like Chubb?

Of coarse, what about you King?

Poet
05-14-2018, 04:44 PM
Of coarse, what about you King?

He is the chosen one.

BeefStew25
05-14-2018, 04:59 PM
Will people be able to handle it if I do or do I need to crack an immature joke about a last name or skin color when I do?

Not sure if people can handle serious discussion...

As a pale uptight nfl expert, explain how this makes you feel.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-14-2018, 05:10 PM
You guys still like Chubb?

My fondness for him ages like a fine wine.

Rick
05-14-2018, 05:48 PM
As a pale uptight nfl expert, explain how this makes you feel.

I'll pass on the baiting. keep casting, I am sure you will catch someone.

BeefStew25
05-14-2018, 06:21 PM
I'll pass on the baiting. keep casting, I am sure you will catch someone.

I’ve caught my limit.

nevcraw
05-14-2018, 07:45 PM
ahhhh nothing like the off-season.

Simple Jaded
05-14-2018, 08:31 PM
If this place ever matures I’ll know it’s time to leave, **** that.

BeefStew25
05-15-2018, 12:41 AM
It’s effing football. Not your 401k. Idiots.

PatriotsGuy
05-15-2018, 08:50 AM
The Outlaw Josey Wales is one of my favorite movies.

BeefStew25
05-15-2018, 10:10 AM
The Outlaw Josey Wales is one of my favorite movies.

Watch Dirty Harry when you get a chance.

PatriotsGuy
05-15-2018, 10:12 AM
Watch Dirty Harry when you get a chance.

I haven't seen it in probably 30 years

BeefStew25
05-15-2018, 10:56 AM
I haven't seen it in probably 30 years

Rent it tonight. Please.

slim
05-15-2018, 12:00 PM
Rent it. lol

BeefStew25
05-15-2018, 12:03 PM
Rent it. lol

On amazon you annoying lib.

LawDog
05-15-2018, 02:32 PM
I haven't seen it in probably 30 years

kind of like your feet?

PatriotsGuy
05-15-2018, 03:16 PM
kind of like your feet?

lol you have obviously never seen a pic of me ;)

BeefStew25
05-15-2018, 04:02 PM
kind of like your feet?

Hammer that Boston fat ass!

Simple Jaded
05-15-2018, 11:20 PM
“Ah! Ah! I know what you’re thinking ... did he shoot 6 shots or only 5? Tell ya the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But be’ins this is 44 magnum, the powerful handgun in the world, and will blow your head clean off ... you gotta ask yourself a question; Do I feel lucky?”

“Well do ya ... punk?”

PatriotsGuy
05-17-2018, 10:01 AM
Hammer that Boston fat ass!

And to think your Christmas card was on my wall of fame.....

12143

BeefStew25
05-17-2018, 11:36 AM
And to think your Christmas card was on my wall of fame.....

12143

Wait. Hold on.

BroncoNut
05-17-2018, 12:34 PM
Josey is named after Josey Wales.....a white character in the movie The Outlaw Josey Wales. Historic western. Jewell means "A jew who does well".....jew...well.

However, the historical jews weren't white. Dey waz culud. No one knows....


Long history behind that name......you should read about it! heh heh


So much left for you to learn Beef...isnt it exciting??
Charleton Heston and Yule Brenner looked white enough to me; and that's Not to mention Yule's little whore queen
and that was like a long effin tim ago, so I find your version of "long history" a bit circumspect.

I suggest you get your facts straight before posting gibberish. It's embarrassing

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2018, 12:41 PM
Heston and Brenner has some pretty good tans for that movie.

PatriotsGuy
05-17-2018, 12:56 PM
Wait. Hold on.

I'm waiting

BroncoNut
05-17-2018, 01:16 PM
Heston and Brenner has some pretty good tans for that movie.

yeah, white boy tans. plus how do you explain their tans in Planet of the Apes and the King and I?

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2018, 01:19 PM
I got nothin’.

PatriotsGuy
05-17-2018, 01:31 PM
I got nothin’.

You can't outsmart Nut he's the Andy Dufresne of BF

topscribe
05-17-2018, 01:36 PM
However, the historical jews weren't white. Dey waz culud. No one knows....
Not exactly. Biological Jews are descendants of Jacob, who was renamed Israel by God.
Israel had twelve sons, one whose name was Judah, the forefather of the Jews. What is
not well known is that the Jews are only one of twelve tribes of Judah, and that they do
not comprise all of Israel. (Levi, another son of Israel's is counted among the Jews.)

The remainder of the tribes are commonly known as the "Lost Ten Tribes," although they
are not really lost, and their locations can well be traced in a thorough study of history.
What one would discover is that all the descendants of Israel are white.

So what made the ancient Jews so tawny in complexion? It wasn't genes. It was the
locale of their existence. The Jews habitated ancient Levant, which composed what are
now the modern nations of Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan.

The sun-beaten climate of Levant causes the anatomy to develop a higher amount of
melanin, a pigment that protects the body from sunlight through absorption. This process
results in the darkening of the skin. So, while their complexions are darker, they are still
white by genes. so the biological Jews have always been caucasian -- white.

BTW, I am biologically Jewish (well, that and Irish, which is descended from Dan, another
son of Israel . . . but that's another story).

Hope this helps . . .

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2018, 02:17 PM
Not exactly. Biological Jews are descendants of Jacob, who was renamed Israel by God.
Israel had twelve sons, one whose name was Judah, the forefather of the Jews. What is
not well known is that the Jews are only one of twelve tribes of Judah, and that they do
not comprise all of Israel. (Levi, another son of Israel's is counted among the Jews.)

The remainder of the tribes are commonly known as the "Lost Ten Tribes," although they
are not really lost, and their locations can well be traced in a thorough study of history.
What one would discover is that all the descendants of Israel are white.

So what made the ancient Jews so tawny in complexion? It wasn't genes. It was the
locale of their existence. The Jews habitated ancient Levant, which composed what are
now the modern nations of Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan.

The sun-beaten climate of Levant causes the anatomy to develop a higher amount of
melanin, a pigment that protects the body from sunlight through absorption. This process
results in the darkening of the skin. So, while their complexions are darker, they are still
white by genes. so the biological Jews have always been caucasian -- white.

BTW, I am biologically Jewish (well, that and Irish, which is descended from Dan, another
son of Israel . . . but that's another story).

Hope this helps . . .

Descendants of Abraham (same as what you are saying obviously) who was Aramean.

BroncoNut
05-17-2018, 02:30 PM
I got nothin’.

consider condescending pat on the back given

topscribe
05-17-2018, 02:32 PM
Descendants of Abraham (same as what you are saying obviously) who was from Armenia.
Yes, Israel was the grandson of Abraham, the latter who fathered the ancestors of Israel and
the Arab and Turkish peoples, among others.

Abraham was born and raised in the city biblically called Ur of the Chaldees (Ur Kaśdim in
Hebrew), not far from ancient Babylon, which was located in what is now Iraq. At God's
instructions, he migrated from there to Salem (which by tradition became Jerusalem) where he
and his son and Israel's father Isaac remained. Israel and his sons would migrate to Egypt in
his later years.

But now . . . :focus:

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2018, 02:34 PM
Yes, Israel was the grandson of Abraham, the latter who fathered the ancestors of Israel and
the Arab and Turkish peoples, among others.

Abraham was born and raised in the city biblically called Ur of the Chaldees (Ur Kaśdim in
Hebrew), not far from ancient Babylon, which was located in what is now Iraq. At God's
instructions, he migrated from there to Salem (which by tradition became Jerusalem) where he
and his son and Israel's father Isaac remained. Israel and his sons would migrate to Egypt in
his later years.

But now . . . :focus:

You quoted me before I could fix my typo

Hawgdriver
05-17-2018, 02:36 PM
The remainder of the tribes are commonly known as the "Lost Ten Tribes," although they
are not really lost, and their locations can well be traced in a thorough study of history.

I was never able to discern this when I tried to find it documented in historic and ancient maps. It's made especially difficult by how much of it is lore and was passed orally in light of alphabets and languages not having adequate convention. I'd be curious to see this thorough study of history you describe. It's really a curiosity to me, not something I've studied extensively.

topscribe
05-17-2018, 02:49 PM
Descendants of Abraham (same as what you are saying obviously) who was Aramean.


You quoted me before I could fix my typo
Actually, Abraham predated the Arameans and was likely their ancestor. They arose during
the collapse of the Bronze Age (1200-900 B.C.). Abraham was born circa 1852-1872 B.C.
and died 175 years later, which would be between 1677 and 1697.

I don't want to get into this any more deeply here. After all, this is a football forum. :wave:

BeefStew25
05-17-2018, 02:58 PM
Guys let get this back on topic or I’ll lock this bitch up.

Simple Jaded
05-17-2018, 03:13 PM
How did Heston ever have an acting career? I’ve seen pornstars with more range.

LawDog
05-17-2018, 05:38 PM
And to think your Christmas card was on my wall of fame.....

12143

Borrowed your little sister's calculator again I see.

PatriotsGuy
05-17-2018, 06:47 PM
Borrowed your little sister's calculator again I see.

Do you want to fight!!?

topscribe
05-17-2018, 07:04 PM
I was never able to discern this when I tried to find it documented in historic and ancient maps. It's made especially difficult by how much of it is lore and was passed orally in light of alphabets and languages not having adequate convention. I'd be curious to see this thorough study of history you describe. It's really a curiosity to me, not something I've studied extensively.
Well, we're still off-topic, but I'll answer it since you asked specifically.

If it is just out of curiosity, you might not find it worth it because it is a lot of work. But
a good place to start is the book "Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright" by J.H. Allen.
It gives a thorough, well-documented account of what has happened to the children of
Israel and where they went. It can be found on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Judahs-Sceptre-Josephs-Birthright-Allen-ebook/dp/B00TVKPTR4/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1526601517&sr=1-4&keywords=j.+h.+allen&dpID=61ZMwxMdZ6L&preST=_SY445_QL70_&dpSrc=srch).

WARHORSE
05-17-2018, 10:38 PM
Charleton Heston and Yule Brenner looked white enough to me; and that's Not to mention Yule's little whore queen
and that was like a long effin tim ago, so I find your version of "long history" a bit circumspect.

I suggest you get your facts straight before posting gibberish. It's embarrassing



Why Ringo....

Poor soul......you were just a little too highstrung..........

;)

WARHORSE
05-17-2018, 10:39 PM
Heston and Brenner has some pretty good tans for that movie.


Yul was da man. Im thinkin of bringin the scalp lock back in style.

WARHORSE
05-17-2018, 10:46 PM
Not exactly. Biological Jews are descendants of Jacob, who was renamed Israel by God.
Israel had twelve sons, one whose name was Judah, the forefather of the Jews. What is
not well known is that the Jews are only one of twelve tribes of Judah, and that they do
not comprise all of Israel. (Levi, another son of Israel's is counted among the Jews.)

The remainder of the tribes are commonly known as the "Lost Ten Tribes," although they
are not really lost, and their locations can well be traced in a thorough study of history.
What one would discover is that all the descendants of Israel are white.

So what made the ancient Jews so tawny in complexion? It wasn't genes. It was the
locale of their existence. The Jews habitated ancient Levant, which composed what are
now the modern nations of Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan.

The sun-beaten climate of Levant causes the anatomy to develop a higher amount of
melanin, a pigment that protects the body from sunlight through absorption. This process
results in the darkening of the skin. So, while their complexions are darker, they are still
white by genes. so the biological Jews have always been caucasian -- white.

BTW, I am biologically Jewish (well, that and Irish, which is descended from Dan, another
son of Israel . . . but that's another story).

Hope this helps . . .


No quarrel here.....my post was satirical.

Im 10% Jewish, 50% Samoan, 40% Greek.........

A Celtic Polynesian son of Abraham.


Say when......

Poet
05-18-2018, 04:26 PM
You're all a bunch of crackers, anyway.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-18-2018, 04:39 PM
You're all a bunch of crackers, anyway.

Who you callin’ cracker, cracker?

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-18-2018, 04:39 PM
No quarrel here.....my post was satirical.

Im 10% Jewish, 50% Samoan, 40% Greek.........

A Celtic Polynesian son of Abraham.


Say when......

Uncle.

Poet
05-18-2018, 04:40 PM
Who you callin’ cracker, cracker?

Don't call me a cracker, you honkey *******! :lol:

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-18-2018, 04:42 PM
Don't call me a cracker, you honkey *******! :lol:

:laugh: