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dogfish
04-13-2018, 07:53 PM
i think it's very likely that we could draft one of each within our first three or four picks, but of course you only have a couple high picks to work with. . . which position would prioritize higher? discuss. . .

Simple Jaded
04-13-2018, 08:05 PM
I thought this was a bumped thread from last year ... and the year before ... and the year before ...

dogfish
04-13-2018, 08:09 PM
I thought this was a bumped thread from last year ... and the year before ... and the year before ...

lol. . . i hear ya, but my material is fresh, yo!

Simple Jaded
04-13-2018, 08:10 PM
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Simple Jaded
04-13-2018, 08:11 PM
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Poet
04-13-2018, 09:05 PM
That's a tough one. For WR's, we have two good ones, but they are aging. For TE, we have a nice prospect in JB, but other than that the depth and talent is pretty poor, jmo.

I think I'll say WR, though, just because they seem to take forever and a day to develop.

Nomad
04-13-2018, 09:10 PM
I'd say a tight end. Having a damn good tight end will open more lanes for those WOs.

Davii
04-13-2018, 09:23 PM
TE. I think TE is more important to draft and develop, it seems there are always good WRs available in free agency. Good TEs aren't let loose too often and have a lot of suitors when they are.

Nomad
04-13-2018, 09:25 PM
TE. I think TE is more important to draft and develop, it seems there are always good WRs available in free agency. Good TEs aren't let loose too often and have a lot of suitors when they are.

It's slipping my mind, but who was the TE when Manning was lighting it up?

Davii
04-13-2018, 09:28 PM
It's slipping my mind, but who was the TE when Manning was lighting it up?

With us? Julius Thomas

Nomad
04-13-2018, 09:33 PM
With us? Julius Thomas

Yes. Look how important Julius, and Dallas Clark, were to Manning during his career. I guess a person could say the Broncos needs a 'Manning' to make a TE that good.

But, I believe those 2 TEs opened the game for the WOs like Harrison and DT.

Davii
04-13-2018, 09:44 PM
Yes. Look how important Julius, and Dallas Clark, were to Manning during his career. I guess a person could say the Broncos needs a 'Manning' to make a TE that good.

But, I believe those 2 TEs opened the game for the WOs like Harrison and DT.

No doubt. We need help on OL, QB, TE, RB. Basically, our entire offense aside from DT and ES.

MOtorboat
04-13-2018, 09:51 PM
They probably should try to get at least one of each. They need a solid third receiving option in the slot and they need a weapon at tight end, none of this blocking-first shit. But, they need more help on the line and at middle linebacker, safety...yeah, there's some holes. Probably need to take another QB somewhere too.

Hawgdriver
04-13-2018, 11:01 PM
Looking toward 2020 and beyond, WR is barren. But it's not as important as a TE who is a weapon mismatch. I'd say TE on the basis of talent required for a bona fide mismatch.

CrazyHorse
04-14-2018, 12:04 AM
Tight End due to positional scarcity. There's plenty of good wide receivers but few good tight ends.

Tned
04-15-2018, 02:03 AM
i think it's very likely that we could draft one of each within our first three or four picks, but of course you only have a couple high picks to work with. . . which position would prioritize higher? discuss. . .

With the caveat that if a stuf feel in their lap, go BPA. I think they need to draft a WR fairly early. It's knocked what they have in Henderson, and I like Taylor, but he hasn't really busted out. I think they need a guy that can take over one of the two starting spots next year and be a productive number three this year.

Between Butt, Heurman and Traylor, I think they can get the job done at TE.

broncofaninfla
04-16-2018, 01:36 PM
I went WR because from a cap standpoint I think this is DT and ES last season with Denver unless they take a pay cut. They are on the wrong side of 30 and don't seem to get as open as they did several years ago. Add to it Denver could use a true slot WR, we haven't had one since Welker.

CoachChaz
04-16-2018, 01:41 PM
Who was the last ELITE WR to win a Super Bowl? By ELITE, I mean top 10.

BroncoJoe
04-16-2018, 01:46 PM
I voted Hoes is a dirtbag, because reality. :)

That said, I'd rather have a dominant TE. I think DT and Sanders have enough fuel in the tank for another couple seasons. At least.

G_Money
04-16-2018, 02:17 PM
Denver needs a tight end. Maybe Butt will be one - so get another. It's extremely important. I expect to take both in the draft, but we can get a good WR later. Hell, there are a couple of WRs in this state who might go third day. I would prefer a TE on day 2 who can be a weapon. I don't even need him to block, though it would be nice. Julius was just too damn useful as a matchup issue in the middle of the field.

Even lesser talents like Scheffler and Putzier had their time. Butt should be able to do several things competently, like the Houston version of Own Daniels. That's great if it happens - now go get me a weapon. Mike Gesicki would do as a Julius type - maybe we can even teach him to block a little since he wasn't a basketball guy. Grab a WR on day 3 like Gallup or Pettis, and see what they can do. If they want someone taller, Jaleel Scott was on the North squad for the Pro Bowl, right? Either way they got a good look at him. Making hay with middle-round receivers is what Denver needs at the moment - there are more options than there are at TE, so they should prioritize the bigger receiving weapon (and potential blocker) first.

OrangeHoof
04-16-2018, 02:36 PM
TE considered the best mismatch is Dallas Goedert of South Dakota St. Top TEs from major schools are considered to be Mike Gesecki of Penn State, Hayden Hurst of South Carolina and Mark Andrews of Oklahoma. Andrews is probably the best deep threat of the three but an unheralded blocker.

Way too many WRs to rank but my favorite mid-round choice is Marcel Ateman of Oklahoma State. He's the type that keeps getting open on the underneath stuff while the better receiver (James Washington for OSU) gets all the attention. Match him with a safety and you'll live to regret it.

CoachChaz
04-16-2018, 03:24 PM
Denver needs a tight end. Maybe Butt will be one - so get another. It's extremely important. I expect to take both in the draft, but we can get a good WR later. Hell, there are a couple of WRs in this state who might go third day. I would prefer a TE on day 2 who can be a weapon. I don't even need him to block, though it would be nice. Julius was just too damn useful as a matchup issue in the middle of the field.

Even lesser talents like Scheffler and Putzier had their time. Butt should be able to do several things competently, like the Houston version of Own Daniels. That's great if it happens - now go get me a weapon. Mike Gesicki would do as a Julius type - maybe we can even teach him to block a little since he wasn't a basketball guy. Grab a WR on day 3 like Gallup or Pettis, and see what they can do. If they want someone taller, Jaleel Scott was on the North squad for the Pro Bowl, right? Either way they got a good look at him. Making hay with middle-round receivers is what Denver needs at the moment - there are more options than there are at TE, so they should prioritize the bigger receiving weapon (and potential blocker) first.

I've always seen Zach Miller as a good comp for Butt. Always wanted to see Miller on a team the adequately utilized the TE.

CoachChaz
04-16-2018, 03:24 PM
TE considered the best mismatch is Dallas Goedert of South Dakota St. Top TEs from major schools are considered to be Mike Gesecki of Penn State, Hayden Hurst of South Carolina and Mark Andrews of Oklahoma. Andrews is probably the best deep threat of the three but an unheralded blocker.

Way too many WRs to rank but my favorite mid-round choice is Marcel Ateman of Oklahoma State. He's the type that keeps getting open on the underneath stuff while the better receiver (James Washington for OSU) gets all the attention. Match him with a safety and you'll live to regret it.

Ian Thomas is my guy. Antonio Gates 2.0

SmilinAssasSin27
04-16-2018, 04:59 PM
Who was the last ELITE WR to win a Super Bowl? By ELITE, I mean top 10.

But...as priorities go, we need 2 additional competent receivers to create mismatches. Broken record but...look at past few years. Teams with a ton of solid weapons are the ones going far in current times. Defenses can't cover everyone.

Tned
04-16-2018, 07:07 PM
Denver needs a tight end. Maybe Butt will be one - so get another. It's extremely important. I expect to take both in the draft, but we can get a good WR later. Hell, there are a couple of WRs in this state who might go third day. I would prefer a TE on day 2 who can be a weapon. I don't even need him to block, though it would be nice. Julius was just too damn useful as a matchup issue in the middle of the field.

Even lesser talents like Scheffler and Putzier had their time. Butt should be able to do several things competently, like the Houston version of Own Daniels. That's great if it happens - now go get me a weapon. Mike Gesicki would do as a Julius type - maybe we can even teach him to block a little since he wasn't a basketball guy. Grab a WR on day 3 like Gallup or Pettis, and see what they can do. If they want someone taller, Jaleel Scott was on the North squad for the Pro Bowl, right? Either way they got a good look at him. Making hay with middle-round receivers is what Denver needs at the moment - there are more options than there are at TE, so they should prioritize the bigger receiving weapon (and potential blocker) first.

Ok, I changed my opinion. I'm on the TE wagon now. Good points.

Simple Jaded
04-16-2018, 07:15 PM
Ok, I changed my opinion. I'm on the TE wagon now. Good points.

Frey what have you don’t with Tned?

HORSEPOWER 56
04-17-2018, 01:03 AM
It’s TE without a doubt until Butt proves otherwise. How many teams out there have menial WR talent and a dominant TE and cause nightmares for people because of matchup problems? Receiving TEs are the new sexy. Until teams start putting 6’5” guys who run 4.5-4.6 40s with coverage skills at Safety and LB, they will continue to be matchup nightmares. We need that more than anything else on offense (except a starting caliber QB).

Look what the Giants did to our D last year with zero WRs and 1 above average TE. BTW, Joe Woods sucks. Who leaves Talib on a 4th string WR while keeping Davis and/or Stewart on a good TE to get eaten alive repeatedly? I mean it. Woods should’ve forfeited his game check that week.

Canmore
04-17-2018, 03:29 PM
It’s TE without a doubt until Butt proves otherwise. How many teams out there have menial WR talent and a dominant TE and cause nightmares for people because of matchup problems? Receiving TEs are the new sexy. Until teams start putting 6’5” guys who run 4.5-4.6 40s with coverage skills at Safety and LB, they will continue to be matchup nightmares. We need that more than anything else on offense (except a starting caliber QB).

Look what the Giants did to our D last year with zero WRs and 1 above average TE. BTW, Joe Woods sucks. Who leaves Talib on a 4th string WR while keeping Davis and/or Stewart on a good TE to get eaten alive repeatedly? I mean it. Woods should’ve forfeited his game check that week.

Why limit it to a week?

TXBRONC
04-18-2018, 08:27 AM
I say tight end first. Butts might end being very good but we don't yet. Also, it doesn't hurt a couple of threats at that position.

Krugan
04-18-2018, 11:06 AM
TE considered the best mismatch is Dallas Goedert of South Dakota St. Top TEs from major schools are considered to be Mike Gesecki of Penn State, Hayden Hurst of South Carolina and Mark Andrews of Oklahoma. Andrews is probably the best deep threat of the three but an unheralded blocker.

Way too many WRs to rank but my favorite mid-round choice is Marcel Ateman of Oklahoma State. He's the type that keeps getting open on the underneath stuff while the better receiver (James Washington for OSU) gets all the attention. Match him with a safety and you'll live to regret it.

Watched quite abit of Goedert this year, im in sodak so it was just on. Would love to see him here, small school big talent.

Buff
04-18-2018, 11:30 AM
It's obviously TE. We have two Pro Bowl WRs and zero serviceable TEs. I'm hopeful that Jake Butt is going to be the guy, but until we see something from him we can't really count on that.

Timmy!
04-18-2018, 01:32 PM
I voted "yes."

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-18-2018, 02:07 PM
Who was the last ELITE WR to win a Super Bowl? By ELITE, I mean top 10.

This is not something I’m trying to instigate a lengthy debate about because I’ve said more than I care to on the topic in the last 5 years, but I believe DT was a top ten receiver in 15’. Having said all of that I would be hard pressed to say his role in that game had much of an impact.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-18-2018, 02:09 PM
It's obviously TE. We have two Pro Bowl WRs and zero serviceable TEs. I'm hopeful that Jake Butt is going to be the guy, but until we see something from him we can't really count on that.

We will see this year if we have any pro bowl receivers. DT’s play slipped a little last year, and Sanders has only put up big numbers with Manning in his career. I don’t know if either one of them has another pro bowl in them, although I’m more inclined to think DT does than Sanders.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-18-2018, 02:10 PM
It's obviously TE. We have two Pro Bowl WRs and zero serviceable TEs. I'm hopeful that Jake Butt is going to be the guy, but until we see something from him we can't really count on that.

I’m excited about Butt too!

BroncoJoe
04-18-2018, 02:28 PM
We will see this year if we have any pro bowl receivers. DT’s play slipped a little last year, and Sanders has only put up big numbers with Manning in his career. I don’t know if either one of them has another pro bowl in them, although I’m more inclined to think DT does than Sanders.

Just stop and investigate who was the QB then get back to us.

TIA.

Buff
04-18-2018, 03:03 PM
We will see this year if we have any pro bowl receivers. DT’s play slipped a little last year, and Sanders has only put up big numbers with Manning in his career. I don’t know if either one of them has another pro bowl in them, although I’m more inclined to think DT does than Sanders.

Yeah we know man, you hate Sanders' consistent production and want to dump him after one down year.

Davii
04-18-2018, 11:51 PM
Yeah we know man, you hate Sanders' consistent production and want to dump him after one down year.

Sanders follows me on Twitter. He must stay.