Broncos sign P Marquette King

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/981959389257986048?s=21

[Buff]

I am cool with this guy until he takes an unsportsmanlike penalty.

[Timmy!]

Lol. Welcome dancing clown punter. You are only allowed to dance 4 times a season, so make them count.

Wait, didn't King say he would buy his jersey?

[Buff]

Lol. Welcome dancing clown punter. You are only allowed to dance 4 times a season, so make them count.

Wait, didn't King say he would buy his jersey?

He is our dancing clown now.

[nevcraw]

This is an awesome signing. Top 3 or so in the league and places very well. Can fake also - as he did on us. By far my favorite offseason surprise.

[BroncoJoe]

LMFAO! Love it. I get he's just a punter, but he's a damn good one.

[Slick]

Party at chazoe's house!

[chazoe60]

Im out.

[dogfish]

Party at chazoe's house!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[CoachChaz]

And we thought Thug Life was ending when Talib got shipped out.

[chazoe60]

I don't mind thug behavior from my CBs but God dammit punters should remain silent. This guy is a clown and I really don't give a shit that he's a Broncos, I still don't like him.

[GEM]

I am cool with this guy until he takes an unsportsmanlike penalty.

Unless it's against his old team. Then I'm good with it. :D

[Buff]

And we thought Thug Life was ending when Talib got shipped out.

About the best thing working in this guy's favor is that he pissed off a bunch of Raiders fans by taking a picture with Talib after the pro bowl with talib pretending to snatch his chain.

[GEM]

Im out.

Chaz, I love you, but you say that a lot and 9 years later, you're still here. :D

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/981965183013801984?s=21

https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/981965005867249664?s=21

[CoachChaz]

I don't mind thug behavior from my CBs but God dammit punters should remain silent. This guy is a clown and I really don't give a shit that he's a Broncos, I still don't like him.

Why? I kind of like it when a punter gets amped up. Makes the game more fun.

[TXBRONC]

This is funny stuff. King is one of the best punters in NFL. He's strange but if this guy can flip the field he's worth it.

[BroncoJoe]

Why? I kind of like it when a punter gets amped up. Makes the game more fun.

I always liked the guys attitude, and love it now.

[Timmy!]

Having probably the best punter in league at altitude with a sketchy offense and oh god I can't look coverage units is a pretty solid investment.

[CoachChaz]

I guess on those days when I'm feeling old, I can always remember that there are people out there that get upset when a punter has a good time playing a game. Then I'll remember there are older, grumpier ******** than me.

[CoachChaz]

I always liked the guys attitude, and love it now.

Me too. I think people really only have a problem because he was a Raider. If he did that with Cleveland, the hatred would probably be much less.

[Valar Morghulis]

i can not wait until he dances in Oakland - and ya'll make him your adopted bronco

[TXBRONC]

Me too. I think people really only have a problem because he was a Raider. If he did that with Cleveland, the hatred would probably be much less.

What you said is spot on.

[Timmy!]

Me too. I think people really only have a problem because he was a Raider. If he did that with Cleveland, the hatred would probably be much less.

This was my feelings...and his little ride the Bronco dance he busted out against us. He was a villian, and played it well. Now I can laugh when dances, as long as there isn't a flag thrown after.

[wayninja]

Great move!

If you are going to be punting a lot, better have someone good doing it.

[Rick]

Show some confidence in the offense Elway! Make a statement and announce the team will have NO punters this year.

[MOtorboat]

Wait. This actually happened? I thought we were all just messing around.

[Pudge]

He's a good punter, but man I sure ******* hate him.

[Ziggy]

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/981965183013801984?s=21

https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/981965005867249664?s=21

Renck is hilarious. I'm sure there's a huge market for a substandard punter who has his worst kicks at the most critical times.

[dogfish]

Wait. This actually happened? I thought we were all just messing around.

shit just got real, MO!

[BroncoJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUPctmAEq18


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxaC0A_a3s

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/981971161356447744?s=21

https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/status/981971261646503937?s=21

[Valar Morghulis]

i love him

[VonDoom]

Renck is hilarious. I'm sure there's a huge market for a substandard punter who has his worst kicks at the most critical times.

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/981974588820152320?s=21

[BroncoJoe]

We have a new King!

See ya, kinger.

[aberdien]

We'll need some entertainment this year, so this is an awesome signing.

Swag on em. There's a new King in town.

[Nomad]

Broncos back to #thuglife

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

i can not wait until he dances in Oakland - and ya'll make him your adopted bronco

He’s the reason my 11 year old is a Raiders fan. He’s already my adopted Bronco. The first time he dances as a Bronco I’m gonna find a way to play a continual loop of it on my sons tablet

[Buff]

We have a new King!

See ya, kinger.

We can probably go ahead and deactivate his account now.

[BroncoJoe]

He’s the reason my 11 year old is a Raiders fan. He’s already my adopted Bronco. The first time he dances as a Bronco I’m gonna find a way to play a continual loop of it on my sons tablet

Is your son now going to be a Broncos fan?

[Freyaka]

I am cool with this guy until he takes an unsportsmanlike penalty.

That's kinda how I feel. He's a good punter, but act like one... Keep it classy, we aren't Oakland. Celebration is fine, just don't go overboard and get cocky kid...

[Freyaka]

LMFAO! Love it. I get he's just a punter, but he's a damn good one.

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

[Freyaka]

I don't mind thug behavior from my CBs but God dammit punters should remain silent. This guy is a clown and I really don't give a shit that he's a Broncos, I still don't like him.

You just hate him because he used to be a raider. You'll warm up to him quickly enough.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Is your son now going to be a Broncos fan?

Hard to say.

[dogfish]

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

he'll probably love it. . .

[GEM]

he'll probably love it. . .

Well, the punter is ....






a dancing machine.

[VonDoom]

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

Well, we’re getting rid of the white guy, so ...

[Traveler]

Que Michael Jackson- “Dancing, dancing, dancing! He’s a dancing machine!

And a damn fine punter too!

[Davii]

Sure, he dances... who cares, dude can flip the field pretty regularly. I'm in. Hopefully he learned his lesson on the penalties.

[Freyaka]

he'll probably love it. . .

Obviously I'm being sarcastic

[GEM]

https://twitter.com/marquetteking/status/981996591648247809?s=21

King's tweet to Raiders fans. :laugh:

[GEM]

He's changed his twitter to Broncos and Riley Dixon follows him. :laugh:

[MOtorboat]

Well, the punter is ....






a dancing machine.

Dancing queen?

[Edmonton Bronco Fan]

No more Dixon shanking punts? Today is a great day!

Love this signing actually. Was hoping we'd hop on him.

[Buff]

If Elway gets a draft pick for Dixon that might be his greatest accomplishment as Broncos GM.

[BroncoJoe]

He's changed his twitter to Broncos and Riley Dixon follows him. :laugh:

Changed his background too.

Love this dude.

[GEM]

Aqib Talib's twitter is still all Broncos. :D

[aberdien]

Imagine if we had Talib and King on the same team.

[Northman]

**** this dude. What the hell are we even doing? Lmao

[Bronco4ever]

I used to hate this guy, but I can easily be swayed if he doesn’t shank 3/4th of his punts like Nixon. :D

[Northman]

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

I dont know about Jaded, but i do hate it. I hope King gets wrecked this season.

[dogfish]

**** this dude. What the hell are we even doing? Lmao

signing one of the most productive guys in the league at his position?

[Dapper Dan]

He sounds expensive. Whatever happen to the great Riley Dixon? Y’all were all over his dick.

[BroncoWave]

I don't mind thug behavior from my CBs but God dammit punters should remain silent. This guy is a clown and I really don't give a shit that he's a Broncos, I still don't like him.

What an awful take. How dare a guy who plays a game for a living have fun.

[BroncoWave]

I dont know about Jaded, but i do hate it. I hope King gets wrecked this season.

Wow, I didn't think there would be a worse take than chazoe's in this thread but you pulled it off. I knew he was a crotchety old man, but I'm surprised to see you go down this road.

[slim]

5 pages on a punter?

WTF is wrong with you people?

[Simple Jaded]

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

I’m on record as saying they should sign King, Roberto Aguiyo and trade The Great Case Romo for Teddy Bridgewater. If we’re gonna get all wet between the legs it should be over players that actually have talent ... I think.

#NoMoreWhiteGuys

[GEM]

Never liked Dixon's punting. 41 net yrd avg is ridiculous in denver.

[Simple Jaded]

He sounds expensive. Whatever happen to the great Riley Dixon? Y’all were all over his dick.

Lololol

#RedemptionForDapper

[Freyaka]

I dont know about Jaded, but i do hate it. I hope King gets wrecked this season.

I suppose you hated Talib? This guy's the punter version of Talib. I hated him as a Raider, but I respect the talent and honestly, I'm pretty sure I'll love seeing him on the field as long as he isn't drawing penalties. Plus it pisses off the raiders fans so that's a giant bonus. FTR. Guy pissed off raiders fans by posing with Talib and let him act like he was ripping a chain off. That's a huge plus in my book.

[Freyaka]

I’m on record as saying they should sign King, Roberto Aguiyo and trade The Great Case Romo for Teddy Bridgewater. If we’re gonna get all wet between the legs it should be over players that actually have talent ... I think.

#NoMoreWhiteGuys

Just throwing shade your way lol. I don't think there is a lot to not like about this move unless you are north and Chaz apparently. Good pick up.

[Jsteve01]

I just find it hilarious that people are so angry about a guy who has fun playing a game. I don't care if he's a punter kicker Long Snapper. You getting paid a lot of money to play a game. He's one of the top punters in the game. He changes the field. And he's uber-athletic he adds a whole different dimension

[Freyaka]

For the two of you upset about this...Raiders were 3rd in starting field position for their opponents, we were 29th. This is a massive signing when it comes to field position.

Which do you think is going to be more effective? The No Flyzone attacking from the 10 or the 40? Our special teams sucked more than Tom Brady in a gay bar, this was a necessary change that goes a long towards fixing a big problem from last year.

[Simple Jaded]

Guess this means JK Scott isn’t coming home.

[MOtorboat]

5 pages on a punter?

WTF is wrong with you people?

Challenge accepted.

[MOtorboat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eDRjT7JWeM

[MOtorboat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikX65Bzp38Q

[MOtorboat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0zTwRcmBGY

[MOtorboat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptPTl1v-gUU

[MOtorboat]

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[underrated29]

Moar

[Buff]

slim is this the greatest punter you've ever seen or wut?

[aberdien]

eo3VtSqnuVY

My hero.

[sneakers]

Him and Reggie Roby have something in common

[Northman]

I suppose you hated Talib? This guy's the punter version of Talib. I hated him as a Raider, but I respect the talent and honestly, I'm pretty sure I'll love seeing him on the field as long as he isn't drawing penalties. Plus it pisses off the raiders fans so that's a giant bonus. FTR. Guy pissed off raiders fans by posing with Talib and let him act like he was ripping a chain off. That's a huge plus in my book.

Really? Most Raider fans i have come across are laughing their asses off at us. As far as Talib? They arent even in the same hemisphere talent wise. :lol:

[Northman]

A punter so good the Raiders of all teams let him walk. My god people are so easily duped.

[TXBRONC]

Wonder how much Jaded hates this move.

Jaded might hate the move but at least he can keep his post pithy, but he'll at least keep it pithy.

[VonDoom]

A punter so good the Raiders of all teams let him walk. My god people are so easily duped.

Gruden only wants guys in their 30s that play “old school football”. Plus he was due to make 3 million from them. Talent was certainly not the issue

[Nomad]

M. King will do fine.....hopefully the Broncos won't have to use him much because they are scoring.

[BroncoWave]

I just find it hilarious that people are so angry about a guy who has fun playing a game. I don't care if he's a punter kicker Long Snapper. You getting paid a lot of money to play a game. He's one of the top punters in the game. He changes the field. And he's uber-athletic he adds a whole different dimension

This thread really exposes the old, crotchety, wet blanket posters among us. :lol:

[BroncoWave]

A punter so good the Raiders of all teams let him walk. My god people are so easily duped.

North stop with the trash takes. Go look at his stats, seriously.

By this awful logic, we should have never signed Manning. I mean, the colts let him walk so he must not have been any good.

[Freyaka]

Page 6.

Only page 3 for me hoss.

[Freyaka]

A punter so good the Raiders of all teams let him walk. My god people are so easily duped.

Yea, top 10 punter with the 4th best net average last year. Man he's freaking terrible... guy's such a freaking loser, how stupid we are...


Garbage takes are garbage north...stop making them.

[Freyaka]

You want to say you don't like him because he was a raider, because he dances, because he takes unneeded penalities, I'll buy those. You want to paint him as a bad player when statistically, he's one of the top punters in the league, I'm sorry I'm mocking that take as trash...

There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike this, his talent level isn't one of them. We got significantly better on special teams with this move.

[BroncoJoe]

I hated and loved him while with the Raiders.

I only have love now.

[Northman]

North stop with the trash takes. Go look at his stats, seriously.

By this awful logic, we should have never signed Manning. I mean, the colts let him walk so he must not have been any good.

Now King is Manning? Bwahahaha

[CoachChaz]

Now King is Manning? Bwahahaha

I think the point is we are improving our pathetic special teams with a top 5 punter who was released by a team because John Gruden "clashed" with his personality. Personally, I put absolutely ZERO weight or concern in Gruden's assessment of a punters personality.

[Freyaka]

Now King is Manning? Bwahahaha

Why are you trolling so hard North, you know damn well I didn't say or imply that...

[Krugan]

Why are you trolling so hard North, you know damn well I didn't say or imply that...

Not trying to start anything here, but to be fair, its pretty common practice on this board, if you mention a different players name in reference, it is taken as you are in comparison to said player.

Ive had that happen to me many times, even though im sure there is alot of non-intention on your part, its just common practice.

[Northman]

The scenarios to which Manning was released vs King are vastly different. The comparison was beyond stupid and why I mocked it. I just laugh though at the butthurt whenever a fan dislikes a signing as if its mandatory to like every single player to ever play for this team.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I think the point is we are improving our pathetic special teams with a top 5 punter who was released by a team because John Gruden "clashed" with his personality. Personally, I put absolutely ZERO weight or concern in Gruden's assessment of a punters personality.

Exactly.

This guy actually reminds me of Ray Guy.

[BroncoJoe]

The scenarios to which Manning was released vs King are vastly different. The comparison was beyond stupid and why I mocked it. I just laugh though at the butthurt whenever a fan dislikes a signing as if its mandatory to like every single player to ever play for this team.

Why do you hate him though? Because he was a Raider? His on-field antics because he's "just a punter"?

Curious - no mocking here. I'm genuinely confused because he's a damn good punter and a huge upgrade over what we've had recently.

[aberdien]

Guys I think north just hates black people.

Jaded, can you confirm this?

[Nomad]

Guys I think north just hates black people.

Jaded, can you confirm this?

No. North can't. He lives in Baltimore. :)

[Freyaka]

The scenarios to which Manning was released vs King are vastly different. The comparison was beyond stupid and why I mocked it. I just laugh though at the butthurt whenever a fan dislikes a signing as if its mandatory to like every single player to ever play for this team.

It's fine to not like a signing, it's not fine to make trash takes. Your take is very much a trash take. You said he has no talent and he's a top 10 punter. If you would have said "I don't like the guy, he's a Raider" or "God I hate his stupid dancing" that would be one thing, you made a trash take, you got called out for your trash take and then you tried to deflect with your garbage about Manning.

[Freyaka]

Why do you hate him though? Because he was a Raider? His on-field antics because he's "just a punter"?

Curious - no mocking here. I'm genuinely confused because he's a damn good punter and a huge upgrade over what we've had recently.

That's my point... Like to say he's not a very talented punter, that's a bad take. That take is so bad it either means A. your football acumen sucks (which it could, but I don't think North is football retarded like that) you've never watched him play and haven't paid attention to his stats (a small possibility) or you are trolling. It's one of the three.

If he would have come out with a reasonable reason to dislike him, I wouldn't have thought anything of it. It's saying he's not talented when he's a punter who is known to be a talented punter...

I know it's weird as hell to be excited about a punter, but talent wise, we have a valid reason to be excited. I get the reasons to dislike the guy, but to claim he's not that good, that's ignorance or blatant trolling. One or the other...

[Hawgdriver]

The scenarios to which Manning was released vs King are vastly different. The comparison was beyond stupid and why I mocked it. I just laugh though at the butthurt whenever a fan dislikes a signing as if its mandatory to like every single player to ever play for this team.

I would recommend looking at a picture of Marquette King and saying to yourself, ten times out loud, "I am a good person. I like the Broncos. They are a good team. Marquette King is a Bronco. I like Marquette King."

Don't let truth in the way of happy thoughts, buddy. Ignorance is Strength, etc. ;)

[CoachChaz]

That's my point... Like to say he's not a very talented punter, that's a bad take. That take is so bad it either means A. your football acumen sucks (which it could, but I don't think North is football retarded like that) you've never watched him play and haven't paid attention to his stats (a small possibility) or you are trolling. It's one of the three.

If he would have come out with a reasonable reason to dislike him, I wouldn't have thought anything of it. It's saying he's not talented when he's a punter who is known to be a talented punter...

I know it's weird as hell to be excited about a punter, but talent wise, we have a valid reason to be excited. I get the reasons to dislike the guy, but to claim he's not that good, that's ignorance or blatant trolling. One or the other...

I think his personality makes it doubling exciting. Not only do we get a top level player at the position, but we get one that adds fun to maybe the most boring aspect of the game.

[Nomad]

Perhaps M.King will spark a little more fire in special teams.

[Freyaka]

Perhaps M.King will spark a little more fire in special teams.

We need some fire... Our special teams sucked last year across the board.

[Freyaka]

I think his personality makes it doubling exciting. Not only do we get a top level player at the position, but we get one that adds fun to maybe the most boring aspect of the game.

As long as he doesn't draw penalties I agree with you.

The thing I always hated about him in Oakland is you never knew when he was going to take off and run with it. It's nice having that on our side now. He's an extremely athletic punter so it adds some new wrinkles to our special teams. On top of that, he's got a booming leg and his accuracy is usually spot on (though he does have some inconsistencies accuracy wise)

While I think Dixon got a lot of unnecessary crap from fans, he's a step up from dixon without a doubt. Anyone who says otherwise needs to check themselves.

[Freyaka]

One funny thing that I fully anticipate happening in training camp is Von Miller working with King on new dance moves lol.

[Northman]

Sick it up buttercup

[Freyaka]

Sick it up buttercup

"sick it up" jesus north. If you are going to troll, at least put some thought and effort into it. And at minimum spell your words right.

[Northman]

On the phone ********.

[BroncoWave]

Sick it up buttercup

You're really gonna just stick with the "he's a bad player" take?

[Northman]

You're really gonna just stick with the "he's a bad player" take?

I said I just don't like him. Why can't you just accept that?

[Freyaka]

I said I just don't like him. Why can't you just accept that?

I can't speak for wave, but I'd be absolutely willing to accept that, if it wasn't attached to a "he's a bad player" take. If you are willing to relent that your take was bad, I'm sure we could move past this silliness.

If you don't like him, you don't like him. That's perfectly acceptable.

[DenBronx]

I like the fact that he stuck it to the raiders by coming here. Regardless of how I felt when he was a raider he makes up for it by making fun of Crabtree and was begging to come here. He cost more than Dixon but is a better punter. He had zero blocked punts, Dixon had 2 which I believe was an NFL high.

Also King is way more athletic so if we do a fake he has speed to break it. I believe he used to be a WR.

Overall, I like this signing. He went from top 5 highest punter to the 16th highest. Broncos got a good deal. Wouldn't be shocked if the raiders pick up Dixon now if we release him before camp.

[BroncoWave]

I said I just don't like him. Why can't you just accept that?

That's not the only thing you said though. You said he's not a good player. Don't act like you didn't, we all saw it.

[chazoe60]

I said I just don't like him. Why can't you just accept that?

I dont like him either. I love when guys celebrate and I don't care when guys show personality but honestly a punter getting taunting penalties is just embarrassing.

At least North and I are consistent, we didn't like him before and we don't like him now.

[Northman]

King is a doosher

[BroncoWave]

I dont like him either. I love when guys celebrate and I don't care when guys show personality but honestly a punter getting taunting penalties is just embarrassing.

At least North and I are consistent, we didn't like him before and we don't like him now.

It's no worse than when Von or anyone else gets a taunting penalty after a big defense play.

[Freyaka]

I dont like him either. I love when guys celebrate and I don't care when guys show personality but honestly a punter getting taunting penalties is just embarrassing.

At least North and I are consistent, we didn't like him before and we don't like him now.

I can respect that from you, because you aren't spouting nonsense about him being a bad player.

I agree, the taunting penalties are not a good thing. Hopefully our coaching staff can coach that out of him. If not, even with the penalties, he's still a significant upgrade over Riley Dixon.

[Freyaka]

It's no worse than when Von or anyone else gets a taunting penalty after a big defense play.

Careful, North will make some absurd statement accusing you of saying King is as good as Von Miller...

https://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/gettyimages-853158362.jpg?w=1500

[chazoe60]

It's no worse than when Von or anyone else gets a taunting penalty after a big defense play.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[BroncoWave]

Fwiw, King had one taunting penalty in 2017. One. So let's not act like this is some huge every game issue.

[Freyaka]

Fwiw, King had one taunting penalty in 2017. One. So let's not act like this is some huge every game issue.

And for the record on that one...it was freaking hilarious as was his follow up to it on twitter (calling the bills player who pointed out what he was doing a snitch)

No, he should not take a penalty in any situation, but come on, it was funny (dancing with the penalty flag that was thrown for roughing the kicker)

https://nflspinzone.com/2016/12/04/marquette-king-taunting-response-twitter-snitch/

[Rick]

Gruden is known to pretty much clash with everyone so him not having a personality fit isn't something I hold against him.

[BroncoWave]

In fact I can only find two examples in his entire career of him getting taunting penalties. But don't let that stop the hot takes.

[Rick]

We made the ST better so far this season by improving the punter and sending the ST coach packing, hopefully we find someone that can manage to NOT fumble the ball now.

Hope the losses of Nelson and Latimer don't hurt that unit too much.

[BroncoWave]

But let's just assume he gets one taunting call a season while here. That's 15 penalty yards over the whole season.

Now let's compare king's net punting average to Dixon's. 42.7 to 40.2. 2.5 yards per attempt better. That means that within 7 punts, he'll already be a net positive over Dixon yardage wise.

[Buff]

In fact I can only find two examples in his entire career of him getting taunting penalties. But don't let that stop the hot takes.

He took unsportsmanlike penalties in back to back weeks last year. His head coach called him out publicly. Then he got cut as a former all pro in his prime. It's not like people are inventing this out of thin air.

[Freyaka]

What it really boils down to, though ya'll wont admit it. Is that you don't like him because you hated seeing him dance like a fool when he pinned us down within our 5 yard line.

Now you get to watch him dance like a fool pinning the chiefs within their five yard line, only to watch Von Miller dance like a fool after making Pat Mahomes his biotch on the next play for a safety.

[slim]

slim is this the greatest punter you've ever seen or wut?

He has soft hands and excellent ball placement.

[Buff]

But let's just assume he gets one taunting call a season while here. That's 15 penalty yards over the whole season.

Now let's compare king's net punting average to Dixon's. 42.7 to 40.2. 2.5 yards per attempt better. That means that within 7 punts, he'll already be a net positive over Dixon yardage wise.

You can't really measure the impact on game flow if he takes a penallty at a bad time...

Von's penalty in Buffalo essentially lost us the game (granted I thought that was a bad call). I don't mind the occasional penalty where a player gets too emotional - I can't excuse the penalties where a guy is just putting himself above the team though.

[aberdien]

So he's had 3 funny penalties. Oh no.

[BroncoWave]

He took unsportsmanlike penalties in back to back weeks last year. His head coach called him out publicly. Then he got cut as a former all pro in his prime. It's not like people are inventing this out of thin air.

Do you have a source for this. I went to a website that tracks penalties and he was credited with 1 in 2017.

[aberdien]

Do you have a source for this. I went to a website that tracks penalties and he was credited with 1 in 2017.

He had 2 in 2016-17 and 1 in 2017-18

https://www.sbnation.com/2016/12/13/13940112/jack-del-rio-marquette-king-unsportsmanlike-penalties

[wayninja]

This thread is awesome.

[Buff]

What it really boils down to, though ya'll wont admit it. Is that you don't like him because you hated seeing him dance like a fool when he pinned us down within our 5 yard line.

Now you get to watch him dance like a fool pinning the chiefs within their five yard line, only to watch Von Miller dance like a fool after making Pat Mahomes his biotch on the next play for a safety.

No that's the reason I'm willing to give him a chance...

What it boils down to for me is this guy has all the hallmarks of a dude who "doesn't get it". He thinks it's all about him. He is more interested in going home and watching his own highlights than participating in team success... At least that's the vibe I got from his Raiders tenure. But now he's here and I'm willing to give him a chance - but I'm a little skeptical.

[BroncoWave]

He had 2 in 2016-17 and 1 in 2017-18

https://www.sbnation.com/2016/12/13/13940112/jack-del-rio-marquette-king-unsportsmanlike-penalties

So 3 his whole career. Oh noes, can't have this top 5 player at his position on the team!

[Buff]

So 3 his whole career. Oh noes, can't have this top 5 player at his position on the team!

If you took that as a percentage of his overall contributions or snaps played - I'll bet it's higher than almost anyone.

[wayninja]

No that's the reason I'm willing to give him a chance...

What it boils down to for me is this guy has all the hallmarks of a dude who "doesn't get it". He thinks it's all about him. He is more interested in going home and watching his own highlights than participating in team success... At least that's the vibe I got from his Raiders tenure. But now he's here and I'm willing to give him a chance - but I'm a little skeptical.

Can you cut and paste this into the Sua Cravens thread?

TIA.

[Buff]

Can you cut and paste this into the Sua Cravens thread?

TIA.

Totally - same exact concern with him.

[BroncoWave]

If you took that as a percentage of his overall contributions or snaps played - I'll bet it's higher than almost anyone.

So? He's so much better than Dixon it hardly matters IMO.

[Freyaka]

No that's the reason I'm willing to give him a chance...

What it boils down to for me is this guy has all the hallmarks of a dude who "doesn't get it". He thinks it's all about him. He is more interested in going home and watching his own highlights than participating in team success... At least that's the vibe I got from his Raiders tenure. But now he's here and I'm willing to give him a chance - but I'm a little skeptical.

That's a fair assessment.

[aberdien]

Might as well have fun while we're losing.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKPpExE46W8Muyc/giphy.gif

[Buff]

So? He's so much better than Dixon it hardly matters IMO.

I welcome the signing...

I'm just saying that there is very little margin for error in special teams. Taking three 15 yard penalties as a punter over two seasons virtually negates all of your positive contributions. It's not insignificant. It's a small sample size.

[Freyaka]

Might as well have fun while we're losing.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKPpExE46W8Muyc/giphy.gif

I'll catch crap for this, I don't care. We'll be 12-4 this year...

[wayninja]

Totally - same exact concern with him.

Yep, I have "concerns" with both guys as well, but will give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm happy with the gamblers mentality here. No risk no reward.

We'll just have to see how that works out, but I'm not anywhere near condemning these risks to failure before the first sign of a problem in an orange jersey.

[Freyaka]

I'll note, the same concerns could be leveled at talib pre Denver

[wayninja]

I'll catch crap for this, I don't care. We'll be 12-4 this year...

Cacey Keenum, top 40 baby.

[Freyaka]

Kacey Keenum, top 40 baby.

I'll back track only slightly that my statement assumes we draft well in the first 3 rounds.

[BroncoWave]

I welcome the signing...

I'm just saying that there is very little margin for error in special teams. Taking three 15 yard penalties as a punter over two seasons virtually negates all of your positive contributions. It's not insignificant. It's a small sample size.

That's fair, but he punted 150 times the last two seasons. So that equates to .3 penalty yards per punt. I'll take that trade-off for the extra 2.5 net yards per punt.

And honestly, it's not like a 15 yard penalty on a punt has that drastic of an impact on the game. The other team was going to have the ball 1st and 10 either way. It's not like a defensive taunting that could turn a 3rd down stop into a first down.

[wayninja]

I'll back track only slightly that my statement assumes we draft well in the first 3 rounds.

Nice move. It allows you an easy out when we go 4-12.

Clearly we didn't draft well.

[Freyaka]

That's fair, but he punted 150 times the last two seasons. So that equates to .3 penalty yards per punt. I'll take that trade-off for the extra 2.5 net yards per punt.

And honestly, it's not like a 15 yard penalty on a punt has that drastic of an impact on the game. The other team was going to have the ball 1st and 10 either way. It's not like a defensive taunting that could turn a 3rd down stop into a first down.

Even the one last year has zero impact. They were punting the ball, got a roughing, he taunted after, roughing play gets applied, results in a first down for the raiders, then the taunting is assessed and it's first and 10 for the raiders from 15 yards behind the previous spot.

That doesn't justify it by any means, but it's not going to have as big of an impact overall.

[Freyaka]

Nice move. It allows you an easy out when we go 4-12.

Clearly we didn't draft well.

Even if we don't draft well, we'll win 10 games with what is already on the roster.

[Northman]

He took unsportsmanlike penalties in back to back weeks last year. His head coach called him out publicly. Then he got cut as a former all pro in his prime. It's not like people are inventing this out of thin air.

Yeeeeeep.

[Buff]

That's fair, but he punted 150 times the last two seasons. So that equates to .3 penalty yards per punt. I'll take that trade-off for the extra 2.5 net yards per punt.

And honestly, it's not like a 15 yard penalty on a punt has that drastic of an impact on the game. The other team was going to have the ball 1st and 10 either way. It's not like a defensive taunting that could turn a 3rd down stop into a first down.

This is a slippery slope. Taking a 15 yard penalty is always a negative expected value play. And they are insignificant until they aren't - you know? Anyway - I think we've beat this horse to death... I'm all for the dancing - I just hope he does it with the team's best interests in mind.

[Nomad]

This thread may get up to 20 pages with North vs Broncosforums. :D

[GEM]

11962

So about this pic.... :D

[Northman]

This thread may get up to 20 pages with North vs Broncosforums. :D


To which I always win of course.

[Freyaka]

11962

So about this pic.... :D

If Dixon ends up a raider, that's hilarious foreshadowing.

[wayninja]

That's fair, but he punted 150 times the last two seasons. So that equates to .3 penalty yards per punt. I'll take that trade-off for the extra 2.5 net yards per punt.

So then, net is 2.2 yards. If we want to be nitpicky about the use of the term "net". Which of course, I don't, but if fills this space nicely.


And honestly, it's not like a 15 yard penalty on a punt has that drastic of an impact on the game. The other team was going to have the ball 1st and 10 either way. It's not like a defensive taunting that could turn a 3rd down stop into a first down.

That's true. A defensive 15 yarder on a 3rd down is a lot bigger in terms of flow than a 15 yard tack to a punt return.

[wayninja]

Even if we don't draft well, we'll win 10 games with what is already on the roster.

Over how many seasons?

[Hawgdriver]

Totally - same exact concern with him.

Let's get Leader of Men on it.

[MOtorboat]

12 pages. Well done.

[Rick]

If Dixon ends up a raider, that's hilarious foreshadowing.

I was just going to say the same thing, be funny as hell if Dixon goes to the Raiders.

[Freyaka]

12 pages. Well done.

It's only page 5... How do you guys live with so few posts on one page? 40 per page FTW.

[BroncoWave]

It's only page 5... How do you guys live with so few posts on one page? 40 per page FTW.

Right? I could never go back to the default posts per page setting.

[Freyaka]

Right? I could never go back to the default posts per page setting.

clicking next every 10 posts is for plebs...

[wayninja]

******* pagists.

[Freyaka]

******* pagists.

40 page master race!

[CoachChaz]

I was just going to say the same thing, be funny as hell if Dixon goes to the Raiders.

Even funnier if they give us a draft pick for him

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Over how many seasons?

The over/under is 2.25 seasons.

[BeefStew25]

Now we need a white CB.

[MOtorboat]

It's only page 5... How do you guys live with so few posts on one page? 40 per page FTW.

You’re making this weird for everybody else.

[BroncoWave]

You’re making this weird for everybody else.

No you guys are definitely the weird ones.

[wayninja]

You guys are probably eating arby's while changing forum defaults...

[Freyaka]

You guys are probably eating arby's while changing forum defaults...

No, but I'm thinking Arby's you sandwich hating jerk.

[tubby]

Total dbag

[BeefStew25]

Total dbag

I remember when you liked players that performed.

[Nomad]

To which I always win of course.

#muchloveforyounorth :D.........but you gonna love M.King. :cool:

[Northman]

#muchloveforyounorth :D.........but you gonna love M.King. :cool:

Dont count on it.... lol

[wayninja]

We'll get along just fine as long as he keeps it in the refs pants and pins offenses back.

You do that, feel free to discharge a firearm in a public place non-lethally.

[Simple Jaded]

Jaded might hate the move but at least he can keep his post pithy, but he'll at least keep it pithy.

Don’t get pithy with me.

[Simple Jaded]

Guys I think north just hates black people.

Jaded, can you confirm this?

It’s science.

[Simple Jaded]

I'll back track only slightly that my statement assumes we draft well in the first 3 rounds.

That took, what, 5 minutes?

[Simple Jaded]

Even if we don't draft well, we'll win 10 games with what is already on the roster.

So why not draft a QB while they’re in position to do so?

[dogfish]

Dont count on it.... lol

you'll have his poster up above your bed before the season's over. . . right next to tom. . .

[dogfish]

tyler polumbus was just talking about king on orange and blue 760. . . he said repeatedly that king is the best punter in the NFL, and that he honestly thinks the 2016 team would have made the playoffs with king punting for them. . . not sure i buy the last part personally, but tyler is a bright dude, and not given to exaggeration. . . i don't like king, and certainly don't expect anyone else to, but i can't see what's not to like about the signing. . . dude is going to launch some monster punts in our thin air. . . i can understand why some fans wouldn't know this, but the broncos actually ARE allowed to be good on special teams-- it's not against league rules or anything!

[Northman]

you'll have his poster up above your bed before the season's over. . . right next to tom. . .

Nobody can replace Tommy.

[Cugel]

tyler polumbus was just talking about king on orange and blue 760. . . he said repeatedly that king is the best punter in the NFL, and that he honestly thinks the 2016 team would have made the playoffs with king punting for them. . . not sure i buy the last part personally, but tyler is a bright dude, and not given to exaggeration. . . i don't like king, and certainly don't expect anyone else to, but i can't see what's not to like about the signing. . . dude is going to launch some monster punts in our thin air. . . i can understand why some fans wouldn't know this, but the broncos actually ARE allowed to be good on special teams-- it's not against league rules or anything!

It is if you have Brock Olivo insisting that Isiah McKenzie keep returning no matter how many fumbles he has.

[dogfish]

Nobody can replace Tommy.

i know, that's why i said he'd be beside tom. . . :lol:

[NightTerror218]

Don't like the guy.... But can't deny the talent. One of his issues is going rogue to get a first down instead of punt.

Maybe part of St overhaul

[Northman]

Lol, cant disagree with this guy but his voice is hilarious. Suffering Succotash!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc7iTxzEzCc

[slim]

tyler polumbus was just talking about king on orange and blue 760. . . he said repeatedly that king is the best punter in the NFL, and that he honestly thinks the 2016 team would have made the playoffs with king punting for them. . . not sure i buy the last part personally, but tyler is a bright dude, and not given to exaggeration. . . i don't like king, and certainly don't expect anyone else to, but i can't see what's not to like about the signing. . . dude is going to launch some monster punts in our thin air. . . i can understand why some fans wouldn't know this, but the broncos actually ARE allowed to be good on special teams-- it's not against league rules or anything!

Tyler was a Siemian fan boy too

[Poet]

I like this signing.

[Freyaka]

So why not draft a QB while they’re in position to do so?

I've never said no to that Jaded. But one has to be there. If there isn't a viable QB available, would you like for us to pull one out of our asses to put on the draft board?

[Poet]

Man...this guy is a top five punter and has a big personality. And his name is King? This is a wonderful day! But, since he's the new King...I must abdicate my throne.

Time for a new name!

[Northman]

Man...this guy is a top five punter and has a big personality. And his name is King? This is a wonderful day! But, since he's the new King...I must abdicate my throne.

Time for a new name!

Von Queen?

[Poet]

Von Queen?

I'm thinking Anubis!

[dogfish]

Tyler was a Siemian fan boy too

well, we're all entitled to some mistakes now and then. . .

[MOtorboat]

tyler polumbus was just talking about king on orange and blue 760. . . he said repeatedly that king is the best punter in the NFL, and that he honestly thinks the 2016 team would have made the playoffs with king punting for them. . . not sure i buy the last part personally, but tyler is a bright dude, and not given to exaggeration. . . i don't like king, and certainly don't expect anyone else to, but i can't see what's not to like about the signing. . . dude is going to launch some monster punts in our thin air. . . i can understand why some fans wouldn't know this, but the broncos actually ARE allowed to be good on special teams-- it's not against league rules or anything!

It’s a punter. Jeebus.

[Poet]

This is a fun signing. I like having fun.

[Valar Morghulis]

An intelligent bone in his brain lol

Marquette Queen

Hilarious

[Simple Jaded]

Man...this guy is a top five punter and has a big personality. And his name is King? This is a wonderful day! But, since he's the new King...I must abdicate my throne.

Time for a new name!

No!

[BroncoWave]

I honestly think the only reason anyone wouldn't like King is because they are butthurt about him dancing in our face after repeatedly pinning us inside the 5. That butthurt will all go away the second he does the same thing to Oakland this year.

[Northman]

I honestly think the only reason anyone wouldn't like King is because they are butthurt about him dancing in our face after repeatedly pinning us inside the 5. That butthurt will all go away the second he does the same thing to Oakland this year.

Not for me, i honestly dont remember him dancing at all on us. Lol

[TXBRONC]

The scenarios to which Manning was released vs King are vastly different. The comparison was beyond stupid and why I mocked it. I just laugh though at the butthurt whenever a fan dislikes a signing as if its mandatory to like every single player to ever play for this team.

North, I respect that you don't care for the signing, but if he comes in preforms the same way he has for Raiders then it was good signing. You pointed out earlier that Gruden release for reason but that reason doesn't appear to have anything to do with punting or health. Is he locker room malcontent? I haven't heard anything to that effect have you? (seriously)

[TXBRONC]

I'm thinking Anubis!

Sorry buddy, you don't have the moxie to carry a name like that.

[Northman]

North, I respect that you don't care for the signing, but if he comes in preforms the same way he has for Raiders then it was good signing. You pointed out earlier that Gruden release for reason but that reason doesn't appear to have anything to do with punting or health. Is he locker room malcontent? I haven't heard anything to that effect have you? (seriously)

Nope but as pointed out he is a distraction and can have drive killing penalties. I'm sorry you guys don't like my stance but I stand steadfast that he was cut for personality issues so I'm hesitant to be excited about this. Good players don't just get cut when they are at the top of their game. I'm baffled that no one else can see the concern here, this guy is nothing about but himself, the exact opposite of what the Broncos need.

[Devilspawn]

You're gonna love and hate him in the same second. That's the general consensus of a man who uses social media to it's fullest to hype a player who wouldn't be talked about in a previous generation.

I was one of the few who didn't hate him and still don't hate him because I get his weirdo ass. The dancing didn't bother me. He's "just a punter" until he's gone and your new or previous punter sucks. I obviously will root for his epic failure but I won't unfollow him on Twitter.

Even though he's the fourth best punter in our franchise's history, he's still a top tier player in his position today. I HIGHLY doubt he'll cost you a game but if he does, he'll be a vital part of a few more, assuming you win some. Given your offense's potential, he's sorely needed. Given the 15+ pages in this thread, he'll be a hot topic for years.

Oh and quick warning, he doesn't draw the enemy line on camera. He may do something like this. Good luck. :)

https://usatbroncoswire.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/aqib-talib.jpg?w=604&h=450&crop=1

[Freyaka]

Nope but as pointed out he is a distraction and can have drive killing penalties. I'm sorry you guys don't like my stance but I stand steadfast that he was cut for personality issues so I'm hesitant to be excited about this. Good players don't just get cut when they are at the top of their game. I'm baffled that no one else can see the concern here, this guy is nothing about but himself, the exact opposite of what the Broncos need.

3 "drive killing" penalties his whole career. Boles has had more than that, as have many of our offensive players. Do you hate all of them as well?

[Poet]

Frey, I believe this is the second recent move I've approved of, alongside another move that I didn't hate but didn't love....

Where is your humanity?

[Davii]

Nope but as pointed out he is a distraction and can have drive killing penalties. I'm sorry you guys don't like my stance but I stand steadfast that he was cut for personality issues so I'm hesitant to be excited about this. Good players don't just get cut when they are at the top of their game. I'm baffled that no one else can see the concern here, this guy is nothing about but himself, the exact opposite of what the Broncos need.

Getting cut and taking a pay cut might also do something about that. Funny how being told you're not worth the hassle nor cash we're paying you has a way of humbling a man.

[Northman]

3 "drive killing" penalties his whole career. Boles has had more than that, as have many of our offensive players. Do you hate all of them as well?

Im sorry genius, do they play the same position. Research that and get back to me.

[Poet]

North, I feel you. But he was also cut by a coach who might be out of touch while also trying to send a message to the team. Leave your sorrows behind, North. We goin' dance. Oh baby we goin' daaaaaance.

[Northman]

Getting cut and taking a pay cut might also do something about that. Funny how being told you're not worth the hassle nor cash we're paying you has a way of humbling a man.

There is no way to know that at this moment. We have no idea if it has humbled him Davii.

[Northman]

North, I feel you. But he was also cut by a coach who might be out of touch while also trying to send a message to the team. Leave your sorrows behind, North. We goin' dance. Oh baby we goin' daaaaaance.

Oh for **** sake you dope, do you know who our coach is??????

[Davii]

3 "drive killing" penalties his whole career. Boles has had more than that, as have many of our offensive players. Do you hate all of them as well?

But has our water boy?

Let's be real, punters only rate slightly higher that water boy and just behind place kicker on the organizational bad assery chart. Unless punters score more points than place kickers, then it goes water boy, place kicker, punter, equipment staff, assistance coaches, and so on.

I think this whole situation might humble the man. Maybe we see a punter that still dances, but is now smart enough not to hurt the team with it. Who knows. At the end of the day we upgraded at an important position for a team with offensive struggles.

[Northman]

All you piles of dung (im saying that with love) actually believe a guy who could not handle guys like Talib is all of a sudden going to co-exist with a prima donna like King? Really? Lmao

[Davii]

Oh for **** sake you dope, do you know who our coach is??????

VJ > JG.

Obviously by JG I meant Joseph Garoffalo, the pizza delivery guy here in my neighborhood. I feel confident that Vance is a better coach than Joe. Not 100%, but more than 50%.

[Davii]

All you piles of dung (im saying that with love) actually believe a guy who could not handle guys like Talib is all of a sudden going to co-exist with a prima donna like King? Really? Lmao

Maybe it was Woods that couldn't handle Talib. Do you know for certain VJ couldn't?

[Poet]

All you piles of dung (im saying that with love) actually believe a guy who could not handle guys like Talib is all of a sudden going to co-exist with a prima donna like King? Really? Lmao

Hey, I respect your position - I don't think it's absurd, but I don't think it's right either. I think VJ is on the outs anyway. He sorry.

[Poet]

Oh for **** sake you dope, do you know who our coach is??????

Can't hear you over the daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaance.

[Davii]

Hey, I respect your position - I don't think it's absurd, but I don't think it's right either. I think VJ is on the outs anyway. He sorry.

The King is dead! Long live the Marquette King!

[Northman]

The King is dead! Long live the Marquette King!

You are killing me smalls....

[Poet]

#thatboydead
#iamthatboy
#postingthisasaghost
#spookyghost
#killedbyapunter
#damn
#apunter?
#adamnpunter
#hashtag
#King
#VonKinger
#specialteams
#bigleg
#ohlawd
#newname
#revival
#zombie
#MarquetteKing
#RIP

[Northman]

Maybe it was Woods that couldn't handle Talib. Do you know for certain VJ couldn't?

So you are on record as believing that VJ is a good coach and a leader of men? The guy put in charge to handle the team as a whole?

[Northman]

I dont know about you Davii but last year was not a team that was held accountable, nor disciplined, nor lead and that falls on the HC. If Woods is in charge of handling the players than he needs to be HC because wtf are we paying VJ for then?

[Davii]

I dont know about you Davii but last year was not a team that was held accountable, nor disciplined, nor lead and that falls on the HC. If Woods is in charge of handling the players than he needs to be HC because wtf are we paying VJ for then?

I wouldn't disagree with that even a little bit. Talib isn't King, and King isn't going to be a team captain, nor the emotional leader of a unit that was responsible for winning a super bowl. To equate Talib and King would be doing the same thing you were mocking others for a few pages back, equating King and Manning, etc.

[Northman]

I wouldn't disagree with that even a little bit. Talib isn't King, and King isn't going to be a team captain, nor the emotional leader of a unit that was responsible for winning a super bowl. To equate Talib and King would be doing the same thing you were mocking others for a few pages back, equating King and Manning, etc.

They are not the same talent wise and position wise obviously. But they both have very strong personalities and that was the comparison that was being made especially when it applies to the HC who seems unable to reign that kind of behavior in.

[Simple Jaded]

North, I feel you. But he was also cut by a coach who might be out of touch while also trying to send a message to the team. Leave your sorrows behind, North. We goin' dance. Oh baby we goin' daaaaaance.
Chucky and Dixon > VJ and Marquette King.

[Nomad]

Chucky and Dixon > VJ and Marquette King.

You are the epitome of positivity towards the Broncos. :D

[Simple Jaded]

You are the epitome of positivity towards the Broncos. :D

Y’all can be the Positive or the Negative, I’ll be the battery acid that makes it all work.

[Nomad]

Y’all can be the Positive or the Negative, I’ll be the battery acid that makes it all work.

We do have North & Kinger. :D

[Rick]

I especially love reading the articles and such that he signed with us for the rivalry, to have revenge. Revenge? What, is he going to kick the ball 5 yards further? he is a punter lol

[Freyaka]

All you piles of dung (im saying that with love) actually believe a guy who could not handle guys like Talib is all of a sudden going to co-exist with a prima donna like King? Really? Lmao

Well if he doesn't we cut his ass... it's a punter. why the hell are you so bent out of shape? Like seriously lmao... It's a punter, he'll either work out for us or he won't, you can find punters everywhere, meanwhile he IS an improvement over what we had.

[Freyaka]

Y’all can be the Positive or the Negative, I’ll be the battery acid that makes it all work.

This place gets pretty acidic.

[Freyaka]

I dont know about you Davii but last year was not a team that was held accountable, nor disciplined, nor lead and that falls on the HC. If Woods is in charge of handling the players than he needs to be HC because wtf are we paying VJ for then?

Last years team was last year. VJ's a dumbass... No two ways about that, but he has a stronger coaching staff around him this year. Hopefully that will balance things out. If not he'll be fired and we'll start fresh in 2019. Until then, it is what it is.

[Davii]

They are not the same talent wise and position wise obviously. But they both have very strong personalities and that was the comparison that was being made especially when it applies to the HC who seems unable to reign that kind of behavior in.

One has proven himself to his teammates, commands their respect, was a leader on a Super Bowl winning squad, and was a team captain.

The other is a punter. If he tries to sow discord in the locker room by punking out offensive linemen he'll probably get his little facemask shoved up his ass.

[Davii]

Last years team was last year. VJ's a dumbass... No two ways about that, but he has a stronger coaching staff around him this year. Hopefully that will balance things out. If not he'll be fired and we'll start fresh in 2019. Until then, it is what it is.

This is most likely VJ's last year.

[Northman]

The other is a punter. If he tries to sow discord in the locker room by punking out offensive linemen he'll probably get his little facemask shoved up his ass.

Can we just skip the discord and watch a lineman shove his facemask up his ass? Thats quality entertainment there.

[DenBronx]

Last years team was last year. VJ's a dumbass... No two ways about that, but he has a stronger coaching staff around him this year. Hopefully that will balance things out. If not he'll be fired and we'll start fresh in 2019. Until then, it is what it is.

This is most likely VJ's last year.


Wouldn't be shocked if it is. I don't think he's a good HC at all.

Losing Wade Phillips was a bad decision but hiring VJ over Shanahan was worse. Had we kept Wade and got Kyle then this team would be way better then what it is now. I am still mad about it...confused as hell on why we did that.

[Valar Morghulis]

Wouldn't be shocked if it is. I don't think he's a good HC at all.

Losing Wade Phillips was a bad decision but hiring VJ over Shanahan was worse. Had we kept Wade and got Kyle then this team would be way better then what it is now. I am still mad about it...confused as hell on why we did that.

I think Elway got too cute - overthinking the shanny connection, trying to avoid another sentimental hire?? But who knows.

Imagine we had wade - shanny and somehow we traded for Jimmy G - we would be set for the next ten years

[Poet]

I think Elway got too cute - overthinking the shanny connection, trying to avoid another sentimental hire?? But who knows.

Imagine we had wade - shanny and somehow we traded for Jimmy G - we would be set for the next ten years

Brilliant. It's odd he might have felt that way considering how much trust he's put in the Gary Kubiak methods.

[Nomad]

This is most likely VJ's last year.

Broncos Country will rejoice. I hope VJ proves us all wrong, and rebounds from last year.

[Nomad]

Brilliant. It's odd he might have felt that way considering how much trust he's put in the Gary Kubiak methods.

King....how are you doing today?